More Pokemon Card Manipulation? Greninja Ex is Skyrocketing

[@cryptojoe6856]

Hey will, you’re correct about the PSA 10 that sold for 1250. I was watching it and had it saved, I got an email yesterday saying it was relisted. Shilling at best! Love the content!

[@DrApplesauceTwo]

Thanks for the info! That’s crazy!

[@scottlloyd5324]

I remember like a month ago I was on a youtube video about moonbreon and someone said the same thing about the moonbreon psa 10 they were trying to sell, they said that their listing kept being bid crazy high but buyer would NEVER pay. Not surprised one bit cause when there is money involved all the corruption will follow

[@TheGoorru]

1 in 748 packs to specifically pull the Greninja And it's arguably the most the popular modern pokemon. I see it as the color version of Giratina. I think It's going to keep going up

[@KMadTime]

Exactly, rarity and popularity. The other SIR Pokémon aren’t wanted so then the only real pull is greninja making it a serious chase

[@VinnyDoesLife]

I pulled the Greninja Ex on my 8th pack and then I pulled the Bloodmoon Ursaluna on my 16th pack! I can't believe my luck with this set.

[@FadedHolySoldier]

That's why I buy singles. I'm sick of spending over 40 on booster packs in one day and not having pulled ONE hit but the the blissey ex.

[@zl8731]

Lmfaooo I feel that pain bro

[@7Machel]

Greninja is one of the most popular Pokémon out there he’s actually top 5 world wide, those radiant greninjas from astral radiance are 10 bucks a pop, I got 20 of em , ash greninja is what did it

[@donitaliano9380]

Greninja and Carmine are just so dang rare to pull

[@dmanletsgo]

I heard you can’t pull them from booster sleeves.

[@oldmanjake6541]

Got lucky….pulled 3 Carmine…..but no luck on Greninja though. 😅

[@inkedBc]

@@oldmanjake6541ahah right I pulled 3 Perrin cards and 1 graninja no carmine

[@oldmanjake6541]

@@inkedBc 😂 haha…Perrin is my personal chase. I’m a camera guy so really wanted to pull Perrin. Nope! Haven’t pulled full Art or SIR Perrin. 😂😂 I might have to just open more. Gotta pull her myself. 😂 Maybe get lucky and pull that elusive Greninja. 😁

[@arifridman314]

I got 2 greninja and Perin & growlithe from 4 booster boxes.

[@DK-BayBay]

IMO this artwork is messy and hard to makeout. The PF Zard imo is the best but you could make arguments for a few in TF before this card. And if this card is this much then why arent the other cards in the set following suit or anything from TF sky high? You can say its a popular pokemon but that doesnt justify the price. This card has gone up since release. No card has done that. Not even moonbreon. Took 6 months for Moonbreon to go up to 300 and that is a far more popular pokemon and one of the most iconic artworks in the history of the tcg. Its not hard to maniuplate the price. There are only 20 listings for sale...a few of which are sky high and will never sell, some overpriced japanese versions, and then everything else. random buyers look and just buy whatever the lowest listed is and that causes the market to rise. throw in a few fake sales of high priced cards and there you go. also keep in mind when you list cards on tcg you can default the price settings to reflect the pricing. ala manipulation.

[@ahmadfarooq6861]

Bro ur intro made me sub to ur channel .. no one starts that way anymore n I appreciated that

[@theshadowless01]

This card continuing to rise in value is the perfect example of why nobody can predict which cards are going to be the cream of the crop for each generation. Initially, no one believed in the Moonbreon in the Sw&Sh era or the tag team Latios Latias alt art in the S&M era, but they eventually rose above the rest and became the chase card for each block. When those were new, people were bashing both cards, saying that they preferred other cards, have negative opinion about the art, or that they could not understand why the market is valuing them so high, etc. The market ultimately sets the price for the cards, and so far, it has shown that it supports the value for this card. I'm not saying it is going to be the chase of SV, just observing the similarity in preception and attitudes from everyone here about this card so far as compared to the past. Everyone has an opinion, but overall, the market will determine if a certain card is valuable long term or not. So far, I have been pretty impressed on how the Greninja has held up. Greninja is a popular pokemon, the pull rate is difficult for this card, and the print run of twilight masquerade seems to be less than others. These are interesting ingredients that can lead to some decent results in the future.

[@abrandeezyb7727]

The reason the second deep even took place was someone sold around 50 for 90 108 and 112. They had 0% feedback and 0 completed sales. I think this is the market correcting itself after that bs happened

[@2736492821]

well, the sole reason those sealed twilight products are so cheap cos they are widely available, you cant correlate chase card values with sealed values for such a new product, for SWSH yes you probably can

[@DrApplesauceTwo]

Nothing about this comment is correct at all.

[@Top_Loaded_JRGS77]

I think this card came out during a perfect storm. Sword & Shield booster boxes were barely moving and then in February Fusion Strike sells out and all of a sudden booster boxes start to go crazy and more sets sell out. Tax season just begins and people treat return like COVID/stimulus checks and splurge. Attention turns to Alt arts and then Scarlet & Violet gets pumped, then trainer gallery cards and now Greninja. I am 100% convinced people are irrational and are easy to heard like sheep and the big players in the Pokémon resale business are reaping the reward. All the FOMO is going to lead to regret when this $225 card drops to $80 after more boxes get ripped. I will buy that Greninja for my son's binder but it will not be anywhere near $200.

[@valentinthomas5024]

Hey ! Your right, but I do not think it will go down that low... maybe 100-120 cause this greninja isn't as gorgeous as the eeveelution alternate art. Also, the pull rates changed, I think people were like "oh, this card should be 50 USD at best", but the pull rates are really becoming harder. When that news appeared, the prices went rreally up, because FOMO and resellers holding the card watching the pull rates... a gigantic boom appeared couple month ago on EVERY Illustration rare/Special Illustration rare, so I mean... yeah it's going to go down, like the eevee, can't be a 50 USD card, but around 30 USD should be pretty much decent considering the BB price of 100-105 USD

[@DrApplesauceTwo]

Fair point

[@Top_Loaded_JRGS77]

@@valentinthomas5024 I could see it doing what Lugia alt art did and hit a low of $115 or like Zard alt art and hit like $105. I’m hoping for a big crash to sub $100 but either way I’ll just buy it

[@zl8731]

@@Top_Loaded_JRGS77it won’t drop below 200 from here on out.

[@minecraftwiz4228]

Did ya get it for $80 yet???😮

[@drmonstervibes]

it's a combination of things: 1. it's a beautiful card and many people want it 2. it's really really hard to pull - pokemon has nerfed the pull rates in the last couple of sets 3. lots of people are hyping about the price this card will reach in the future - I've seen a lot of people suggesting this will go way up and investors suggesting everyone buy it

[@VinnyDoesLife]

I pulled the Greninja on my 8th pack and then the Bloodmoon Ursaluna on my 16th pack. I cannot believe my luck with this set.

[@TheCollector123]

Its because people are buying freebinja ex psa 10 for 1300$ and trying to raise the price this is market manupoliation.

[@DrApplesauceTwo]

I went over that in the video. That sale was on June 30th. The prices started spiking June 8th

[@georgeallen4007]

Cool trainer Ryan hasn’t been able to pull the greninja despite opening hundreds of packs live just a few days ago … also keep in mind the greninja is extremely playable in the actual game… with the being said I am personally not a fan of TCGplayer for card prices I rather check sales on eBay

[@zl8731]

@@georgeallen4007saw them on TCG player for 225-250 but I got mine from eBay for 266. I prefer eBay. People use TCG player to sell cards that are LP as near mint while using a stock photo. If you can’t take the 1 minute out your day to take a picture of the product you are selling then you don’t deserve the sale in my opinion.

[@colek9722]

Love how I literally pulled this yesterday and this video was posted around the time I pulled it. Just found the video now.

[@MieXuL]

The card is extremely hard to pull and crazy hard to pull a 10

[@NostalgiaNomics]

Always good to hear some sensible takes. Thanks for the breath of fresh air!

[@DrApplesauceTwo]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@Rhinzlah]

Maybe it’s more like the Blaziken Vmax or Gengar Vmax. I think the “Umbeon-esk” one still has yet to come.

[@hammer3515]

I think the people who are deadset on claiming this is manipulated are so bitter. Its a famous pokemon. The art is amazing. Its the SIR of the set. And the pull rates are hard. Whats not to get?

[@DrApplesauceTwo]

The fact that it’s $230 less than a month after release. That’s not normal. BUT there ARE a ton of them selling

[@TheSnackAttackingSnorlax]

And the arts trash?? Literally a greninja PROMO about to come out looks as good and in my opinion BETTER than this travesty… looks like a 3 yr old fingerprinted this greninja…. So bad when a promo outdoes a $200 card ….

[@truetaru]

The art is just decent. All it is, is just a paint splash background. Not amazing IMO. Much better SIRs out there with lots going on in the image like Roaring Moon.

[@KMadTime]

Agreed, it’s the first card of s/v with pull rates and popularity like this. It’s on par with previous sets chase cards, so it’s price is moving that way. Atleast with other boxes there are multiple cards that you want. No one wants the other SIRs so the money that would go towards all of the chase cards in this set is being funneled into only greninja

[@userofsharingan]

The reason this card has been spiking was mostly do to me telling everyone greninja is the Pokemon reincarnation of Naruto uzumaki. Once they realized i was right they had to have the card.

[@MDRswisha]

I really like the greninja card, even before the hype set in. Just like the Magikarp from Paldea evolved, it’s such a good art work of a popular pokemon. That being said, I will be waiting to buy it. Even if the drop isn’t that substantial, it can’t sustain the trajectory it’s on. There will be a major correction in the next few months… just have to hold tight.

[@DrApplesauceTwo]

The people who decide to buy it

[@samersalama6275]

I don’t think it’s manipulated but I think something weird is going on with the graded cards because there is such a large range. I think this card is amazing but I feel the raging bolt and iron crown should be around the same considering they also have rediculous pull rates and the artwork is awesome. I think though the card and other cards will dip once team rocket, and the terrestrial festival and the dragon set come out. Either way it’s exciting.

[@dwhirsh82]

Greninja always one of my fave! Pulled the illustration rare which I love more than the SIR honestly.

[@VinnyDoesLife]

There is no Greninja IR in this set.

[@dwhirsh82]

I’ve seen people on social media groups buying them up looking to buy multiple at a time. 😮

[@Troutfisch1]

Greninja definitely the current golden goose for this era, wish I could chase harder!

[@GPLAYGAMINGANDCOLLECTIBLES]

Love your videos bro!!keep the great wotlrk going and of course keep pokemon alive and exciting🎉🎉🎉

[@Nygon08]

this is my favorite card ive seen in the entire scarlet and violet era but for that price i just cant afford it

[@JoshBee-hp7xe]

If anything I see more manipulation on TCGplayer to get the card value of the card lower and not higher

[@Austin4Liberty]

Feels like a $50-$80 card. Not feeling the fomo on this one. We’ll see if it keeps holding these crazy prices.

[@kawhiiee]

i seen this same comment about a moonbreon. And look what it is today?

[@natewheeler3403]

The value is more justified than other cards because of how strong the card is plus its 1 in 922

[@drmonstervibes]

*booster packs

[@jessicamagri8211]

@@drmonstervibesholy crap…that’s insane, the pull rate

[@elizabethchampy1985]

My son really wants this card but it costs so much! He loves greninja like everyone else❤❤❤❤

[@DrApplesauceTwo]

The Japanese version is WAY cheaper

[@Ben-Jammin1989]

I pulled this card 2 weeks ago. Been holding onto it and glad so far! Should I sell now, or should I hold on to it? Just looking for some friendly advice.

[@DrApplesauceTwo]

I’d watch the market, and sell AS SOON as you see that line start to dip. That’s just me.

[@rell660]

Sell now.... Will drop within the next month.

[@Ben-Jammin1989]

@@DrApplesauceTwo thanks bro! Keep up the great work! I’ve been following you for a while and really appreciate your channel. Helps me a lot with buying, selling and collecting. I really aspire to be as successful as you someday! God bless!

[@DrApplesauceTwo]

thank you my friend, that means a lot to me

[@pokert9401]

I would sell it now while the hype and the price is up. It will slowly go down from here. I wouldn’t be surprised if it reached below $100.

[@whatevername6553]

I’ll never understand the hype with some of these cards, like we have 25 years of cards to buy from, so many promos, niche sets, diverse artwork, yet people swarm like lemmings to the newest thing possible. It is a beautiful card, sus stuff is 100% there and as always FUCK PSA 🥰

[@jessicamagri8211]

I got into cards just this year, so I’m grateful for just anything that I can get a good deal on 😅. I’ve been buying loose packs of SV base for only $2.50 each, and we got the ultra premium collection for 151 from Costco at just $90. The pull rates on the latter were absolute garbage and we got only one illustration rare that we had ALREADY PULLED, but it was still fun for us to open lol. Now I’m trying to find deals on crown zenith and Paldean fates because I feel like they’ll spike soon. Can’t find anything from astral radiance though, I’ve never opened that set before that I know of 🥺

[@jessicamagri8211]

I know getting the cheap stuff is not ideal right now, but we’re both grad students and can’t keep up the hobby unless we try to find cheap packs and good deals or use credit card cashback points 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@volcom828]

it’s crazy because while i do think the card is nice and the color splashes are cool, i really don’t think this card is even that great. so many other artworks i prefer over this. but i do understand the pull rates recently and once the card started to pop off the fomo really set in and every day i check its gone up a few more bucks. def doesn’t seem sus to me.

[@Jmtexasvending]

Bought my first ever Pokémon trainer box and pulled this card. Other than that only have bought about 5 Pokémon packs so got very lucky with this pull

[@grstacks]

300 packs and nothing should of just bought the damn card

[@grstacks]

And when i finally pulled it one etb later quality of it was off centered like most ive seen on ebay...

[@PokeBirdPalace]

I have only pulled one of each of the garngina

[@arifridman314]

Got two SAR greninja ex one in each back to back booster boxes 😂🔥

[@Ilovepickles1]

I pulled the greninja in a three pack blister and im glad i did

[@inkedBc]

Honestly I think it’s funny everyone trying to make videos on why the market is doing this and that with card prices 😂😂😂 we got things happening in pokemon that are blowing our minds . We have cards hitting crazy prices not just raw but look at paldea evolved and scarlet and violet base set have 5 doller cards selling 200 in psa 10s because or rarity and hard to grade and hard to pull cards . I think there is no manipulation with graninja ex. But I agree there is nothing going on with the graninja

[@ReginaTinner]

Greninja EX 214 pull rate 1 in 946 is 0.11%! This is the Beginning of a new Era!

[@Landin-hc9ze]

Child from the future here to say greninja just dropped $20

[@Thehandheldguy402]

It's now at 300 I'm from the future it's going up 😊

[@The_Card_Father]

The shrouded fable promo is better than this jumbled mess. It looks like a Jackson Pollack painting with a hard to see character in the middle of it. Definitely not a 232 dollar card imo. This market makes zero sense sometimes.

[@Theu131]

We are in a nice dead period right now for the tcg. Next set isn’t for another month, and it doesn’t look to have any chase cards. None of these new cards really did well at naic, so the hype for dragapult and raging bolt has fizzled. People got the alt arts they wanted , attention is splitting, and this is the newest biggest card. Do people actually like it? No. It’s not really playable, everyone gripes over the crowns. It’s just the next best thing and people have to spend money. They have to. Probably the same people who paid double for Umbreon v after is spiked . Once All the big sets come out starting with stellar crown it will drop for a little I bet. But it will always be high because it’s rare and greninja. Just overhyped by bored people who don’t know what to buy next. Just my guess.

[@tyfine99]

Saw a bid on it go for over 1k!

[@Zaygatsby31]

There were multiple that sold for 1k plus 👀👀

[@DrApplesauceTwo]

I’m pretty sure those were real/completed sales

[@Chickentorchic]

Opened about 12 booster boxes and pulled it. I think it's very rare.. Lots of people with more pulls have had worse times getting it. Anyway my master set is now complete 😊

[@periodicbeast9994]

Do not buy into hype cards, that's how you get them to come down.

[@kevinmccarty157]

Cause it’s impossible to pull

[@Thehandheldguy402]

I pulled one last month after talking about it so much with my buddy. Went and bought a box of packs and got it. Super surprised I got it tbh

[@Teleios116]

Just buy the Japanese version for $60

[@DrApplesauceTwo]

Right lol

[@Teleios116]

@@DrApplesauceTwo I bought one for 60, bought Perrin for 60 and raging bolt the special art Japanese for $30

[@groutness9052]

Just pulled Greninja ex is it rare

[@Elleon12]

Don't like this card, feel like I can't see Greninja clearly as hard as I try, it's wierd

[@the_gengar_master]

Very low pull rate high demand.

[@user-crazy81]

Did you pull one?

[@DrApplesauceTwo]

Nope. And I have zero plans of buying one lol

[@Pullinoutteeth]

Wtf?.. why do people like this card so much? I didn’t even buy this set for the chance. People are really paying more for this than the last 2 charizard sirs that came out? Crazy😂😂

[@TheSnackAttackingSnorlax]

Gotta be buyouts or something…. The card is sooooo bad and it’s not even really playable? It better not be moonbreon because I’m never buying that greninja unless it’s sub $80 …. I don’t even want it , it looks sooooooooooooooooooo bad .

Because the set sucks. I got 2 twilight boosters here and if someone had 50 bucks in cash they would be gone. The Greninja is cool, but it aint that cool.

[@Cardboardcollector1]

BUy infernape ir now while it’s still cheap 🔥📈❤️

[@user-crazy81]

This card is something …….

[@cryptomon86]

Keep sleeping on it. Yapping instead of buying it much lower 😂

[@DrApplesauceTwo]

If I wanted it, I would buy it.

[@philwoods820]

Gonna drop. Besides the Eevee I don't care for the rest of the set

[@RedDragon_1121]

So who decides that the card it worth over 200 bucks now? Lol

[@zl8731]

The market does.

[@RedDragon_1121]

@@zl8731 😂 no shit , but who decides to say hey its worth this much now, who's sitting behind the computer at tcg player marking up the price

[@zl8731]

@@RedDragon_1121 It’s an algorithm that accounts all recent sales for a card. Nobody is sitting there calculating everything, there is 10 million different cards on TCG player. What people are willing to pay is what sets a market price. I feel like I’m stating the obvious.

[@HOTRODPOKEMON]

Not sus

[@DrApplesauceTwo]

watch the video

[@duaner9392]

……..testicle festival 🎉

[@Dire_Hit]

Remeber when the Obsidian Flames SIR Zard was like a $300+ card ungraded around release? This is not the first card to look good.

[@DrApplesauceTwo]

I mean that was around release. We’re multiple weeks past release.

[@drizzho]

I don’t think the card art is worth the money imo the promo is gonna be like 5$ and way doper

[@GhostTrainConductor1989]

I still think Raging Bolt EX SIR is the best SIR out of S&V so far

[@pokeradtex3501]

I feel like it is overhyped and should be around $80 at most.

[@lowdowndirty100]

No shot that this card is even remotely worth $200. That card is so mid, should be $80 max. The new Greninja promo blowssss this card out the water

[@DrApplesauceTwo]

that I will agree with

[@7Machel]

If it wasn’t a promo it would be more but give it some time and that greninja will explode

[@DK-BayBay]

i agree. the promo greninja destroys this one. much cleaner too. if was actually in the set it would be one of the bigger chases of SV.

[@Pokerquest18]

Only issue is that once people get the promo they’re going to hunt for this one because the set that promo comes is trash. Unlike twilight which is actually decent.

[@7Machel]

@@Pokerquest18 facts