[MSFS] Boeing 747-8i Approach, ILS & Landing Tutorial｜Drawyah

[@ruhaan6216]

Great tutorial! Something to keep in mind is that the flap limit is 20 if the landing gear is up. The gear is usually lowered at 2500' and flap 20 is set. Then once the gear is down (should say "down" in green text on the EICAS) set approach flap setting and reduce speed to VREF + 5. Also, once the glideslope is captured, the altitude should be set to the Missed Approach altitude. Keep it up!

[@rihabandraaifastoyreviewerchan]

After gear down and speed lowered flap should be 30

[@Kamrankhan23333]

Are you a pilot??

[@ruhaan6216]

@@rihabandraaifastoyreviewerchan Yup but i guess it also depends on what the conditions are. Sometimes it could be 25. Idk for Airbus tho

[@ruhaan6216]

@@Kamrankhan23333 No i'm just partially aware of the procedures cause i use PMDG on P3DV4. Btw feel free to correct me if I'm wrong

[@Kamrankhan23333]

@@ruhaan6216 Can you help me? I've got mfs2020 recently but...... Whenever I turn on AP, the plane specially the a320 doesn't follow the flight plan or that green line and it frustrates me a lot... So if you can help what I am doing wrong actually ???

[@generic_programmer]

Great video! I'm currently on a 10h flight, now I know how to get it down. Don't tell the passengers we departed without knowing how to land.

[@Drawyah]

Glad you found this helpful, so long the passengers don't notice! 😉

[@ice319]

You've taught me more in the two videos that I've seen of yours than the actual game taught me. GREAT content! You earned yourself another sub, brother.

[@Drawyah]

Glad you've gotten the hang of things! With any flight simulator it takes practice, but eventually you'll get there.

[@MartinPaoloni]

I'll re-watch this a few times before re-trying to land this beast. Great tutorial! Many thanks!

[@Drawyah]

Glad to hear it, enjoy the study!

[@jeremyharris7245]

You are absolutely going to be the number one FS2020 KZbinr. Period.

[@sovietwizard1620]

True

[@LoonasHusband]

15:41 Another thing you can do to prevent the aircraft doing that sharp pullup is just engaging APP mode once the diamond hits the circle (above or below) closest to the middle

[@derekbaker2177]

Yes! Thanks to your vids Drawyah I successfully flew from Melbourne to Sydney real time and weather with an ILS auto land. Visibility was 100mtrs so I couldn’t see the runway until just before the flare. Now the world is my oyster! Also on Xbox and did it all with the controller, gotta wait for Xmas for my mouse and keyboard lol make it a lot easier

[@Drawyah]

I'm glad you found this helpful, I wish you many happy virtual hours!

[@PT-he6sr]

Really ? with an Autoland ! Doesn't Drawyah say right at the start that the 747-8 can't even do Vnav yet + can't follow the glide slope down on AP and this needs to be done manually ? am I missing something here lol

[@Drawyah]

The default aircraft can do an ILS approach, but not an autoland. Your last few seconds of flight to touchdown will need to be done manually.

[@emd266]

Great tutorial!! Will definitely try some of the new tricks I've seen for a cleaner and smoother landing!

[@enzodeligny17c]

Hey there, drawyah here

[@deaustin4018]

I did three almost perfect landings in this sim, was thinking, nothing to it - till on the fourth try I belly flopped it into the grass a thousand feet short of the runway. So yeah, for real world I guess I'll take one of them there high priced, fancy booked learned pilot guys whose score is a lot higher than 75 percent.

[@symol30872]

I'm strugging to even get the AP to keep this plane level (with VNAV turned off) using the alt and speed settings. Only airliner that is currently usable is the 787 which I don't have much trouble with

[@symol30872]

@Kiyo Senpai I've tried that, but the plane just bobs up and down :(

[@LesGainous]

Kiyo Senpai You. Ay need to input your actual center of gravity, like in real 747s. This automatically will set your elevator trim to help keep a level flight.

[@alexjohnson2841]

Hey can someone explain what vnav and lnav do and when you have to turn them on? I'm really confused

[@themetalicious7195]

FINALLY got my first full flight down ! Montreal CYUL to New York KJFK was smooth and everything worked a good 2h well spent

[@Drawyah]

Nice one, glad the tutorial helped!

[@themetalicious7195]

@@Drawyah I saw a lot of your videos you are really good and explains in a way that nobody ever did for me keep it up you deserve your support !

[@willchaney8480]

So glad you posted this. Been looking for a video like this.

[@kammelna]

Great tutorial, the AP & APP are really bugged in this plane! When I try APP to capture the GS the plane follows the GS altitude for say 4 seconds then stays at the same altitude and have to control it manually, tired of this plane. The 787 is way better.

[@jesserochester5826]

I think that problem has been fixed now in the later builds i.e. 1.9.5

[@alphabravoindia5267]

Very good tutorial. Even though Salty fixes some VNAV stuff, it seems easier at times to just use the selected mode to manage VS and IAS. Thanks for the easy to understand and concise tutorial sir!

[@Drawyah]

Glad you found the tutorial helpful! I also agree on the VNAV control of Salty, some work needs to be done to perfect it, descending on V/S is handy.

[@TRICKY10666]

Great to watch, most of it I admit went over my head.

[@benfoster3304]

Really helpful as now know how to activate the star and ils keep it up

[@CZARAIR45]

I've been flying the PMDG 747/400/8 since 2008 😁

[@naksur2719]

i landed the boeing on my first try!! im so damn happy. Awesome video buddy.

[@Drawyah]

Glad to hear it, happy flying!

[@jogos0101]

Wow! Divided, explained, directly. Thank so much!!! Wonderfull

[@alna2619]

hey there drawyah here

[@ederss7]

The 747 is a complete mess in this sim. The 787 is a little better, but still a big let down.

[@themetalicious7195]

Did 2 successfull flights in the 747 tonight 1h30 each didnt have a single problem the only thing I noticed was the Vs vertical speed you have to hit it 2 or 3 times before it works other than that not too bad there is missing features but not to bad

[@Skynet151]

@@themetalicious7195 yeah AP in the 747 is very bugged. Sometime I need to disable AP and turn it back on, or double push every button - nav, fc, Vs, alt, whatever was on. Especially Vs and fc needs double bush to get activated. Really bugged.

[@themetalicious7195]

@@Skynet151 damn I guess I'm lucky so far people seem to have a lot of issues with it

[@deaustin4018]

you guys must have gotten a model built on a Friday. I haven't had any problems with my 747 (though I only started after the fourth update, so that might be it)

[@estebangonzalez7197]

The thing that i noticed well in my case at least I'm so used to the pmdg 747 flight model in p3d the fs2020 for some reason seems really sluggish extremely sluggish so it might be me still having to get used to a more realistic flight model or it might be wrong could anyone let me know?.

[@cityzens7874]

Damn... I thought a video got uploaded twice... This and the 787 one...😅😅

[@jumboag11]

Fantastic video. Watched it again (closely) after face-planting into Orlando to see what I did wrong. VERY informative. One question though, when setting up your landing variables, how does one know that when the MCDU says 260 knots that you should subtract 100 from it when factoring in your landing airspeed? Is that just a 747 thing?

[@Drawyah]

Just a 747 thing, it doesn't calculate speeds properly.

[@themetalicious7195]

@@Drawyah yeah its supposed to be a 160 kts landing speed while the 747 puts it at 260 which is ridiculous but an update is coming . Each plane has its landing speed !

[@ItzCloudChaserr]

I'm a new aviation enthusiast and your video helped! I hope my first intercontinental flight with the 747, Dublin to JFK will land safely and successfully :)

[@Drawyah]

Good luck with it! 🙌

[@LoonasHusband]

5:21 but let’s say I was on VATSIM; ATC would tell me ‘Descend via ____ arrival’. That’s when I would dataset my decent, right?

[@Drawyah]

Yep! Ideally you would have the approach you're expecting configured so that you have an accurate ToD, but as soon as ATC assigns you an approach, you can programme what they have given you.

[@ZL8103]

So we should disable auto-throttle and auto pilot at around 1000 ft during an ILS approach? When I tried to use the auto pilot below 1000 ft, the plane took a big dive and fell way below the glide slope. I had to manually increase throttle and nose up to get back to the glide slope.

[@kmohan24]

Once Again a superb video. I could never switch back from Mach to Knots in any of the three airlines(787,747 and Neo). It always stayed in mach. What am I doing wrong? Is it in one of those settings? Thanks a lot.

[@dalord5933]

It's a bug. Happens to me as well.

[@doyoulikedags3534]

Excellent video as usual, but for the 747, isn't it supposed to be three white one red on the PAPI?

[@sime793418]

Yeah it is

[@ChernoBueno]

Thank you so so much oh my gosh thanks man I mastered it now I can’t believe this

[@Drawyah]

Glad to hear, enjoy flying!

[@moesy5868]

Great piloting. Thank you

[@Drawyah]

I'm glad you enjoyed the video!

[@shantk.2530]

Well done Drawyah,very informative content,keep the great works coming brother.

[@RobertGracie]

Hey can I ask how can you get the 747 to fly so straight all I get with it with LNAV enabled is it wallowing from side to side and it never stays on track....I am just asking I have even copied your way of flying it and it STILL wallows around never staying on track! also it has major trim issues too!

[@symol30872]

Same thing happens to me as well, definitely a bug which is being worked on. No issues with the 787 so I've been using that for all my flights

[@RobertGracie]

@@symol30872 Yeah I hope it gets fixed soon, I am planning on using it for the Frequent Flier Miles achievement and I am definitely NOT using the A320 for that.....

[@A5tr0101]

Most planes drift to one direction when not steered its just the way physics work

[@RobertGracie]

@@A5tr0101 I know that but still, when you have an aircraft that wont stay on course even in 0 KT wind you have to question yourself and the trim system is borked as well....the 747 is buggy and I have since reported it to Asobo for a patch....

[@mohamadezzeddine3957]

Nice buddy. Subscribed. Question, how do you get the flight director to respond? My plane doesnt do anything when I make changes to speed, altitude, or anything else. First step is make the adjustments then engage autopilot. Then, while auto pilot is on, I should be able to make modifications for the plane to respond automatically like you showcased in the video. Am I missing anything? Another question, I cannot seem to have that waypoint to the airport on my instrument (the purple line). Is there something I need to do to have it? Thank you!

[@Drawyah]

So long your VNAV and LNAV are active, the flight director will follow through. Admittedly it's something I've missed a couple of times myself!

[@sonictraveller4054]

Thanks so much for these - great job

[@Drawyah]

Always happy to help!

[@SasukeUchiha-ks3rz]

Hey i got a question before landing my whole cockpit turned off like i couldn’t see anything everything was dark and bc of that I couldn’t land good can u help me??

[@AliKurban788]

Great video! :p

[@chilledgamezone4950]

Is vnav working for this now? I had both enabled.. i dont know what vnav is supposed to do though

[@zaidahmed6167]

the Papi is incorrect on 747 as the cockpit is high

[@suqmadic6672]

Thanks so much, you made me addicted!

[@Drawyah]

Glad to hear it, I guess! 😅

[@corpsimmons575]

GOD I WISH I KNEW THIS BEFORE I DID THE CHALLENGE TO CHANGI. Who was teh dev who decided the best way to set up the landing challenge with ILS was to leave the ILS unconfigured and not shown on the PFD? its 1/8th mi visibility.

[@Drawyah]

Configuring the approach and letting the aircraft guide you in, it's a whole different experience as all you need to manage is the touchdown. JFK approach? Completed it m8. 😁

[@سلطانالحوطي-ض1ن]

Great job Drawyah..... I was hoping to watch your landing from the outside view.... Anyway you're the best

[@Drawyah]

Always land from the cockpit, never external.

[@jasjedi]

Thank you sir ! will take your valuable less and try not to crash this beast.

[@Drawyah]

Good luck with it!

[@rpg350]

Great tutorial, nice to watch. Which version of FS you have I have much better spec on my pc but details looks better on your videos. I was just thinking if more expensive version gives you better graffic etc

[@Drawyah]

I fly the Premium Deluxe version of MSFS.

[@omarnour7650]

You are a great man thank you

[@thymen3431]

What are the conors on your PFD?

[@Punkologist]

lol the first 20 secs of this video answered my question as to why my plane is trying to approach at 20,000 feet even with vnav on

[@Drawyah]

Glad that helped you out! 😅

[@ListeningPoint]

Why do all the planes run out of fuel way too fast?

[@ACochrane]

@@AviationSimulation They do, fuel consumption is borked for the A320, Cessna Citation and the 747, there's a community fix out there somewhere.

[@EnBarLor]

Thanx one more time, Drawyah!

[@Mark_Wilson07]

Hey Does the VNAV work for the 747 ? Also VNAV only works for climbing not descending right ?

[@Drawyah]

VNAV is improving in MSFS, but not yet perfect. It can manage some decent, but best still to use V/S where possible.

[@aleksanderciszek9613]

How did you tern on the diamond Ils

[@SamirHSX]

Hi, when i press DEP/ARR button, it only shows departures airport, i can not clic on arrivals, it does not appear on the screen. How can i fix that? Thank you

[@LuigiCotocea]

Thing is i pilotted the boeing for first time in mfs2020, got from timisoara to craiova in romania but crashed because i did my descent too late and fast!

[@jdzzl]

Drawyah, have you done a full flight video at all by chance where you go thru the flight route and there is either no SID or STAR in place on the route id, and you give an example of how to obtain then and know which one to use via ATC or whatever means?

[@Drawyah]

All of my streams with active ATC go through the complete clearance procedure.

[@jdzzl]

@@Drawyah Sounds good! Thanks for the recent responses. I'll see ya over on Twitch on Saturday if you are streaming then.

[@BuXterHS]

I can't get the ILS display to turn on. Is there some button i need to push or is it supposed to turn on by itself?

[@febo6198]

Mine catches the horizontal diamond but totally neglects the vertical one. When it is in the middle i click APP but it just stays on the same altitude. Doesn't happen with the airbus

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

That is a glitch. It was fixed in the update yesterday. I've flown thousands of ILS approaches in real life and it works the same every time. In FS2020 it only worked correctly for two weeks, then messed up, and then was fixed in the last patch update.

[@rihabandraaifastoyreviewerchan]

I know everything about aircraft but I do not know how to set the fms before landing and take off

[@Drawyah]

So you don't know everything. 😅 I've covered all flight processes on the 747 across two tutorials.

[@rihabandraaifastoyreviewerchan]

@@Drawyah i know everything about takeoff approach and landing but I don't how to set the fms Anyways I'm going to buy a real 747-400 and refurbish it I have selected saudi airlines 16 year old aircraft (when retiring). Now 19. Year least used aircraft other junkyard aircraft are severely structural damage , .this is the the best .flight sv 789 ( on the fleet)

[@barradacuda1671]

Will the plane automatically automatically set the ils info display on?

[@Drawyah]

Not always, hence the need to check your ILS frequency.

[@Thehoeh]

Drawyah can you possibly do an updated Dec 2020 version of this, pretty please?

[@Drawyah]

The 747 flies exactly the same now as it did then. Nothing to change.

[@beefybassplayer]

@drawyah - Have you tried using the FLCH mode for both 747 and 787 for descent?

[@shadowryth7308]

Weird never knew u had to run on the APU after landing. I landed the 747 the other day and as soon as I landed all the engine cut out. I had 10% fuel left so maybe that’s the cut off for the engine but I couldn’t restart them they would idle at 2.4 then die out

[@Drawyah]

There is a gap between shutting off the engines and connecting to ground power as crew will not move when the engines are running. APU endures systems stay active during this gap.

[@dr4life027]

Great video!! I have a question I hope you can answer. How do you change the tilt of the weather radar? Mine is always pointing towards the ground.

[@Drawyah]

Tilt cannot be adjusted yet, but there is a dial next to the switch.

[@parhamghomashi]

great!!!!

[@tomaszwota1465]

I'm not entirely convinced that you're not an AI voice-over. ;)

[@lonerwarrior5454]

First I turn on the LOC, the plane start align with the runway. When it aligned I and the glide slope indicator at the center I turn on APP so the LOC is off and it starts to have deviation with the runway, not align anymore. Why the LOC and APP can't be turn on at the same time ?

[@Drawyah]

Localiser only adjusts your heading. Approach mode manages both LOC + ALT.

[@martinnnmusic]

2:59 where can u find the piece of info in your Simbrief? Can't seem to find it, while it's crucial for your Stars, waypoints and approach etc.

[@Drawyah]

Second page towards the top, you can view the routing.

[@hnic324]

Thank you very much bruv..

[@danielloutfy8082]

Hey Drawyah, I had a question in regards to landing ILS. I completely understand how to set it up, but when in tune in to ATC in game, it seems to completely mess it up. Is it possible if you can do one with the in game ATC? Or is the ATC just useless in the game and is better to not use it when using this approach?

[@InspectorMDY]

In game atc at the moment isn't working correctly for that. I feel like it's on crack half the time. It'll ask you to go from fl300 to 3000 ft.

[@wststreet2]

I can't get it to slow down enough, I've even had the autopilot increase the throttle when it was already going too fast. It feels like I'm fighting against the autopilot.

[@Drawyah]

Use the spoilers to help. In the 747 they are a massive boost to slowing down.

[@wststreet2]

@@Drawyah I did try that, but the auto throttle keeps accelerating. I did miss some of the things you put in the mcdu, I'll see if that fixes the issue. Thanks for the reply!

[@deziderpusztay4912]

Nice video. Thanks. Anyway there is one question from me. Was the ILS frequency tuned automaticaly when he chosed the ILS 04 at FMC or how? I am used to fly B738 and the frequency must be tuned manually but here at B747 I can find only com radio.

[@Drawyah]

The 748 automatically tunes frequency when you select a runway in the FMS.

[@shootzgolf3717]

Thanks for this!

[@shootzgolf3717]

Smooth touchdown first try.

[@Drawyah]

Fantastic! ✈️

[@BeliallTM]

Very helpful, thank you. how does this combine with a pre set IFR flight plan ?

[@Drawyah]

Yep! So long you have a STAR and Runway to select, all will work a charm.

[@BeliallTM]

@@Drawyah Thanks! llooking forward to actually landing next time

[@Steveal3aneef1]

can you post the calculations you made when you descended from 350 on 250 knots, I'd really appreciate it

[@tubulationjim]

He said, I think, rule of thumb is that if you are at 250 KT and descending at 2000 ft/min you should expect to drop 30,000 feet in 80 miles. I find that starting a little further out from the final approach fix works better, perhaps 150 miles, as the 747 is usually (in real life) descended with a clean (i.e. no flaps) glide down with throttles near idle, and that takes me longer. I'm not a pilot just a trawler for this stuff through the internet. Happy to be corrected. Do real pilots use spoilers so much?

[@CaptNemo_]

as a new person to flight sims, can i just play the game with out doing all those turing nobs? i just want to fly around

[@everythingvideos24]

I’m on a 6,000 nautical mile flight as of now. I’m halfway to my destination. I suck at landing these airliners.

[@equious8413]

Baha, me too man. France to Seattle, figured I'd learn how to land somewhere over Saskatchewan. Lol

[@ESPirits87]

i find B747 to be hardest to land, i'm on a controller and just can't do it, it's hard to get the plane under 160 knots and it just bounces.

[@latchie8893]

Have you laned yet?

[@equious8413]

@@latchie8893 I'm personally still in the air. Lol

[@equious8413]

@@ESPirits87 speed breaks!

[@ejs9272]

would you recommend using ATC in this game?

[@Drawyah]

Not default ATC. If you're in Xbox fly without, on PC I highly recommend IVAO.

[@JohnnyJiuJitsu]

Can I like this video twice?

[@Drawyah]

On two accounts, I guess? 😅

[@arnaudlex5123]

Why arent you using minimums?

[@alainthiry3965]

thank you

[@planelander]

The plane does not follow altitude set by the fmc?

[@Drawyah]

It should do! Check everything is configured properly including Altimeter.

[@torgeirarny6642]

Is it not possible to enter wind speed/direction and QNH in the FMS, like on the A320? The 747 having big trouble keeping the glidescope :/

[@Drawyah]

Not at this stage, no.

[@miyabe_k195]

Any idea of what could have happened on my first 747 landing approche? I told the plane to descend to FL20 and then past that it went really weird. Like putting in 100% trim up and going vertical stalling and then falling down going too fast. So shortly after I just disarmed everything and manually landed the plane on the runway which ended up in a really hard landing since it was the first one in an airliner in the first sim i play on the PC.. Can the AP get messed up if you do a lot of active pause? it seems like the plane is standing still but stuff like speed can chase despite the aircraft actually not moving

[@dav9012]

Kinda late but my recommendation is that you dont use active pause because its super bugged, thats why she probably used 100 trim setting, its weird

[@iraqiboy90]

what was the math for the rule of thumb for the decent/distant measurement?

[@xSpookeyy]

Take your crushing attitude so 39000ft so do 39 x3 +12 and what ever that number is is how many nautical miles you wanna start descending at

[@Feederfroschkiller]

Hello! Since I don't find a answer on my Question anywhere I need to ask this: After Autopilot, how do u change again to manual Speed/throttle? My Throttle is completly disabled after deactivating the Autopilot. I can't find the Problem.

[@Feederfroschkiller]

and yes, i pressed the Speed button too but nothing changed.

[@Drawyah]

Press the autothrottle button.

[@vincegeyer5949]

Do the diamonds still work?

[@Drawyah]

They should do! Make sure that your ILS frequency is correct.

[@AndrePereira-tw5vs]

Missing PMDG come quickly for MSFS 2020...

[@Neosnoop37]

When departing the flight director is not following the FMC Route (LNAV is activated) while flying manually. Does anyone has the same problem?

[@avciahm]

How do you arm speedbreak? I try to arm it but it does not work.

[@Drawyah]

Move the speed break lever to the 'arm' position.

[@MWDrone]

Why are u scrolling ur mouse wheel if AP is on?

[@Drawyah]

What do you mean?

[@PRTTGNS]

how did you make green flap manuevering speed come up at 11:25

[@Drawyah]

Where are you looking sorry? I don't see it.

[@PRTTGNS]

At around 11:20 there wasnt green flap manuevering speed in PFD, suddenly it came out in around 11:23 ​@@Drawyah

[@salokin1]

Hitting PEXEN at 10000B / 220, as shown in the STAR, would have prevented the need for the later/steeper descent and made it all "gentler" capturing the glide slope.

[@alexsmythers3281]

How do you manipulate the altitude autopilot knob by 1000 ft at a time?

[@Drawyah]

Scrolling a different portion of the knob goes from increments of 100 to increments of 1,000.

[@ohandanotheronebitesthedus6247]

Is this game broken i do what it asks and i fail lol take off hold a i do that and take yet still prompts me to hold a then when i land i have the landing gear out and i crash as it gives me a landing gear warning 😅

[@brianscharsch9767]

Nice! 👍

[@TheFinnishBerserker]

Do you also play Kerbal Space Program? You sound exactly same as one KSP youtuber!

[@Drawyah]

I do in my own time, but never on this channel. I am however looking closely at KSP 2 and potentially will show it here!

[@alekstrifspas6440]

wait how do you turn on the ils i didn´t understand pls help i can´t figure it out?

[@Drawyah]

So long that you have input the correct frequency and course for the runway, it should just be as simple as selecting the [Appr] button!

[@LouiBrown]

My plane doesn’t seem to want to level out. It keeps bouncing in the air not allowing the plane to stay stable. I’ve tried using the HOLD button but nothing. It either plummets to the group or just bounces

[@Drawyah]

Adjust the trim of the aircraft up and down, force it to stabalise.

[@jenshellinckx]

Does anyone know how to reverse throttle using a controller? On the TBM930 it goes into reverse if i keep decreasing throttle but on the 747 it just stays at idle.

[@mainframehardcore]

helpful vid. can you also explain how i must program an approach while i'm close to the airport? when i activate it the plane turns around to the waypoint i already passed. very anoying. with the a320n i can clear the route with programming a direct waypoint to the airport and then the runway. can find it in the 747. thanks and keep up the good work.

[@Drawyah]

To fly direct in a Boeing aircraft, you need to be in the LEGS page. Select the waypoint you want to fly to, then 'paste' it at the top. This will replace all waypoints before it.

[@mainframehardcore]

@@Drawyah thanks! I'm gonna try and will let you know. Have a great weekend.

[@mainframehardcore]

It does change the route but it remains yellow after i execute the new route. Bug?

[@xenom0rpheee]

My auto trim goes up to 100 with full flaps when approaching so i cant control my joystick at this time im manually decreasing trim. Is thhere any solution for this? Do i need to set flaps to not full like we do in a320?

[@Drawyah]

Landing flaps in the 747 is 25° or 30° depending on situation. I've personally not had any control issues regardless of where flaps are.

[@xenom0rpheee]

@@Drawyah Thanks for your answer