No Aliens? Joe Rogan & Brian Keating

[@Al-Storm]

That was the least scientific way to propose there's no life in the universe. We're still discovering moons in our solar system, nevermind planets across the universe. We don't even know if the universe is infinite or not.

[@brandonmacey964]

You aren’t contending with his idea.. ever seen Dune? There was life on that planet.. do you realize it makes ZERO SENSE that earths neighboring planet has no life and Earth is like Noah’s ark x1000000? This guy is a science professor who was up for the Nobel.. what was “unscientific” about his argument exactly? Does science require you to believe in aliens?

[@RileyB-k2o]

@@brandonmacey964 it makes zero sense that theres no life on our neighboring planets ? How about the atmospheres being deadly 😂an it being to hot or to cold …..at least for human life

[@brandonmacey964]

@@RileyB-k2o the atmosphere is deadly to HUMAN life.. think.. the bottom of the ocean is also deadly to human life.. is there no life there?? Patience grows thin with insolence

[@brandonmacey964]

@@TinyTardigrade460 it’s ok my friend, some people are midwits.. I’ll try it slow.. there is no good reason why mars should not have some form of alien life.. it’s right next to earth in the Goldilocks’ zone.. yet there is no life on mars that we know of.. earth by contrast, right next door, is spilling over with so much life that we can’t catalogue all the species, we discover new ones everyday… is it sinking in yet?

[@RileyB-k2o]

@@brandonmacey964 did you not see the part where i said “human life”? Im Just saying it makes sense that there isn’t life on the other planets , btw about 3-4 years ago scientist did say they found microbs in venus’s atmosphere, pretty sure it was venus , so thats coollllio

[@koolkeef]

We haven't found life on Mars; therefore, the idea that life exists on any other of the trillion to the eighth power rocks in the universe is highly optimistic? That makes as much sense to me as "the unit next door to my apartment is vacant, I predict therefore that no one else lives in this building, or block, or city..." Nevermind that next door is really just a utility closet.

[@michabryza9451]

You just said the dumbest shit ever. No life on moon therefore no life on any other planets😂 totally ignored the fact each planet is way different properties, weather conditions etc and you compare it to a fkn unit next door 😂😂😂

[@CHIMPmanHE]

Hit the nail on the head. 😂

[@HawaiiFundayTours]

this "doctor" sounds just like Neil De...whateverthefuck...the rest of his non-scientific stance is...

[@Hail_Sagan]

That's kinda like, "The iphone was created, therefore the Earth must have been created too" argument, right?

[@Hail_Sagan]

@@HawaiiFundayTours Yeah "deGrasse Tyson" is difficult to remember... The problem with UFO fanatics (lets face it, that's what this is about), is that they won't accept anything as "true" other than someone confirming that their alien visitation fantasies are true.

[@projectcolonialviper2094]

That's a big call! 100 billion stars in the Milky Way, we estimate 100 billion galaxies in the observable universe - sure no life anywhere but on our tiny planet...

[@Cobbido]

And you can probably multiply that amount several times outside of the observable universe

[@77dris]

This sort of argument is a non-sequitur: "The universe is big, so there has to be life other than ours". Why?

[@projectcolonialviper2094]

@@77dris I say why not? To me it's an argument based on probability, given the sheer numbers of stars and planets that by extrapolation are calculated to exist. From what we know the laws of nature are believed to be universal - so again why not? If this planet is the only source of life in the entire universe, then what an awful waste of space, time and effort!

[@jackfoubert.]

Because its here if its here it could and is every where. WE just have not found it.@@77dris

[@taran5209]

@@projectcolonialviper2094 good point

[@wizzelhoart]

"get to the point Junior!"

[@garycarder4363]

Could be the best time to break the power grid

[@skinny7010]

Amen. yeesh

[@masonhancock5350]

Scientists in the 19th century were convinced that trains exceeding certain speeds would cause a vacuum in the cars and kill the passengers.

[@wolfgangkranek376]

Actually no, they didn't.

[@JamesTyler-b8s]

They have all been brainwashed by the their God, chain smoking German who apparently had all the answers to the universe, chainsmoking & doodling math equations in his office = the uncovering of everything in the universe, it's really sad that modern scientists refuse to look at new ideas , but basing literally everything they do on Einsteins THEORY of relativity....his THEORY.... Do better guys...stop being cult followers, and do some real science....nobody cares how stressed bulaga whales are pal

[@billdoor3140]

Those "scientists" were the David Icke , Alex Jones, David Handcock of the day....

[@allankjohansen]

Cars?

[@ThePeachtree69]

1911ish astronomers told The NY Times and they printed on the front page that Martians were building canals on Mars. Likely for moving goods and products around.

[@rbeach8200]

There might or might not be Aliens in space. But they're definitely Aliens on earth.

[@Morgan-yl3ou]

...and inside and and on the back of the moon Theres cities there......armstrong etc came back shocked in 1969

[@jimmystrickland1034]

We are the aliens, to other aliens.

[@billdoor3140]

😂

[@ELChamuco-ug7tf]

There are extraterrestrial aliens on the moon, Antártica, the volcano just outside of Mexico City, and other places on the Earth.

[@a-walpatches6460]

This is the cup of water argument. I took this cup of water from the sea to show you that there are no fish in ocean, here's my data.

[@boogieman6529]

😂

[@dejancavic3696]

Well, his data about the cup is correct

[@boogieman6529]

@@dejancavic3696 source: trust me bro

[@tophersonX]

Mars is obviously not the same as earth. But there will be cosmic numbers of planets out there that are much more like earth.

[@brandonmacey964]

Mars is SO MUCH like earth.. it resembles DUNE. If life were so persistent, it should be there

[@Lanceweeda]

"...but there WILL be..." That's a statement of faith, not science, as it has not yet been proven that there are...

[@tophersonX]

@@Lanceweeda the 6k known exoplanets show earth to be in a continuum, in size and orbit time. There are estimated at least one planet per star system and earth element composition dustribuition is not unusual. Life began only a billion years after the earth formation. What else do we need to know to bet the earth not to be in a unique situation?

[@tophersonX]

@@brandonmacey964 with giant earth worms and all

[@brandonmacey964]

@@tophersonX what else do we need to know? I gotta see the little green men, or some slime.. show me alien life

[@paints_his_shirt_red]

“I got this at the South Pole Gift Shop”. I wonder what it’s like working there during the busy season? Pretty hectic I imagine.

[@DanEslof]

life creation truth at our place

[@MetalRam]

check the cortisol levels of employees ear wax

[@SaltyVet74]

The insanity and Hubris of thinking that we understand even remotely enough to even make a statement like that.

[@dpclerks09]

Hubris is the strongest drug known to Man. So strong that most don't realize how high they are off of it. Hidden in Plain Sight.

[@JohnCrichton]

It's called arrogance

[@SaltyVet74]

@@JohnCrichton love the name..

[@jonsegerros]

Ego, more like. Modern Scientism and Science is just Ego.@@JohnCrichton

[@JohnCrichton]

@@jonsegerros when you make outlandish claims like he is it's more arrogance than it is ego. An ego would mean that you would be smart enough to know that it's not true. This guy isn't smart enough therefore it's not a egos

[@Max_Flashheart]

Can confirm slime and mold evolved on at least 1 planet in this solar system.

[@surfingonmars8979]

They’re technically called republicans……

[@brandonmacey964]

No slime on mars? Mold? Mushrooms? Little sand worms? Makes zero sense.. where is all your life finding a way and evolving

[@surfingonmars8979]

@@turtletom8383 You are so right.

[@jasonolinger7585]

Defining one group by any word is in definition ignorance. I think you are either very naïve or you’re just looking for a reaction.

[@avader5]

@@surfingonmars8979 we here in Silicon Valley find your arrogantly presumptuous statement to be an indication of your ignorance about this subject!

[@mylesraymond7364]

Dr Keating: “Here’s an actual piece of Mars.” Rogan: “So it’s an asteroid?”

[@avader5]

My mother worked at Wright Patterson Air Force Base from 1943 to 1963. Yes she was there during the Rosswell incident. At no time did she indicate to me that there were any extra-terrestrials. Inter-dimensional beings, yes. Extra-terrestrials, no.

[@fubey8x]

WOW DUDE COOL STORY OH MAN SO MUCH KNOWLEDGE AND INFORMATION WHOAAAA

[@akaJackLugar]

Inter-dimensional= spiritual beings.

[@SPAZZYok]

I don't think they would've checked with your mom before checking in a alien or spacecraft. Debris was specifically flown there after Fort Worth in 1947 so then how old is your mom anyway? Lol Perhaps look into what Senator Goldwater said to General Curtis Lemay about the "blue room". There is a whole underground complex under there.

[@Gamer-dude247]

Interdimensional beings landed in Las Vegas backyard, i 100% believe the family who reported it. At first i just had a theory around 30 years ago that aliens were not from other planets but were interdimensional and recent evidence, comments & whistleblowers have confirmed my hypothosis.

[@jasonfreese2654]

Maybe she didn't have clarification to know that information working there and knowing people that are in special groups or Clearance of any kind..Silence was big back then most probably feared for there lives or families lives..just saying

[@Eelis0]

Dr Keating pulled that "mars rock" gift from his back yard that morning. But it's the thought that counts!

[@brandonmacey964]

EL OH EL I am very dubious about “space rocks”

[@TheTroofSayer]

I'm gobsmacked whenever intelligent people suggest with a straight face that life elsewhere in the universe is highly unlikely. Firstly, the problem of entropy - the creation of complexity (life, matter) cannot be disengaged from the persistence of complexity across time. If complexity (life, matter) can be created, and we (as life) are here to hold it in our hands, then we can do so only because complexity (including life) does, in fact, *persist* across time. Astronomers confirm, correctly, that matter (esp. CHNOPS) exists and persists throughout the cosmos. And, armed with a proper understanding of the nuances of entropy (this is critical), we can thus conclude that the *predispositions* that exist over here, also exist over there, stars and galaxies away. We thus need find only one place in the universe where life exists (and persists), to conclude that this is a living universe. Where is that one place? We're standing on it. We can stop tormenting ourselves... this is, without a doubt, a living universe. Neither God nor fairies nor woo required. And then there's panspermia. Seriously? So an asteroid hurtling through the frozen darkness of empty space has a higher likelihood of containing the molecular building-blocks of life than does a warm, sunny planet within a star's habitable zone? Then there's MINUS 80 degrees Mars, with atmosphere 100 times thinner than Earth's. The non-existence of life there doesn't prove a thing. Then there's Dr Keating's reference to the Drake equation wrt intelligent life. Why have we not encountered aliens? ROI. Return On Investment. It will take the 1974 Arecibo transmission to globular cluster M13, a measly quarter of a galaxy away, 500 centuries to receive a reply. Any society that attempts to realize such a pointless project deserves to go extinct.

[@getlost3346]

As Carl Segan correctly asked. Why are there reports of aliens with humanoid forms; fingers, two arms, two eyes/ears, one torso, one head, two legs/feet? That part is odd. It's so implausible a similar evolution to human form could have occurred in another star system. I agree with Segans clear observation.

[@Chaelsonen]

Honestly if they use the term "highly unlikely" im not even that offended, because with the scope of everything that would be basically a guarantee that it exists in multiple places, this just seems like a hot take with horrible logic behind it

[@Biosynchro]

Life is rare, but it certainly exists elsewhere. BTW when you say that God is not required, that's a non sequitur. I don't understand how a living universe leads to 'no God required'. Would a dead universe require a God?

[@MetalRam]

time? bwahahaha

[@arranodoherty4372]

​@@getlost3346maybe to appear less threatening

[@KyleJames2580]

Either way, it's not human beings flying ufos.

[@karlgoebeler1500]

I wouldn't worry about that. Been here the whole time and we are not dead.

[@ashtar523]

So we can measure whale stress, fantastic. But it seems like even our "best" scientists needs to be reminded that our ability to observe the details of the universe, and even our solar system is equivalent to stargazing through a toiletroll. We are the goldfish in the fishbowl wondering if the fishbowl is all there is. And every time we see a little bit further, we create a new fishbowl.

[@the.trollgubbe2642]

Trillions of galaxies.... But only life here ?

[@godbyone]

Yes

[@myronhelton4441]

All people only believe in these 2 thoughts. Which One of these 2 thoughts below do you think is true? Do you think that tadpoes expanded into thinking people out in the universe, like many people believe that happened here? Or do you believe a super being created life elswhere, without telling us about it?

[@the.trollgubbe2642]

@@myronhelton4441 I believe we are created by dna modification by extraterrestrials, maybe the aliens came from tadpools

[@Dontae9]

@@myronhelton4441 if the super being is true, then knowing about other life is above our pay grade. If tadpoles are true, then proving the existence of other life is currently beyond our ability. And scientists have issues admitting either one of those statements as it requires humility and universities do not trade in that commodity.

[@myronhelton4441]

@@Dontae9 I believe in demon spirits changing into bodies, but they have to change to spirits to be jerked around in their space ships that are far superior than ours. Bill Clinton said nothing has been found. These people saw alien space ships blowed up with a rare metal with odd writing on it, but the gov got it all. They are liars, because they could hide one piece of metal worth millions. But I believe school kids in Africa saw aliens, or demons up close. Something had to make the universe.

[@PaulPare-o6p]

Why does the assumption of alien life always assume a life superior to humans..might just be a bunch of german shepherds on a planet created by a superior energy that likes to create

[@dunder5563]

cuz who cares this is about them arriving to here not just life in general this is about their tech

[@danirizary6926]

Brought to you by the same chain of logic behind such great ideas like: Geocentric Solar System Young Earth Hypothesis Manifest Destiny

[@absolutelyreel8795]

Disingenuous argument as key difference between Mars and Earth is, Earth still has a strong magnetic field and Mars does not.

[@kreatingkings7659]

The Drake Equation is more of a theoretical framework than a precise mathematical formula, as many of its parameters are unknown and subject to debate. Weak argument

[@BramleyStafford]

Its important to listen to all sides of the story. But when I want to listen to an intellectual that is totally trapped within the small mind of the system I always enjoy Brian Keating ...

[@trevordelaney3144]

Did he just say that there is probably no life out there because there is no life in Mars? Someone should tell him that Mars is not in the 'habitable zone' and we would not expect life to be on a planet like Mars. He doesn't know what he is talking about, and Joe shouldn't have let him away with it 😒

[@Rainman99684]

With all due respect the Drake equation is so unbelievably stupid.. Why would we be ignorant enough to assume that other life would look for us, or make contact with us? Or that we would know how to look for them with our cavemen eyes and telescopes… The Drake equation is so narcissistic it’s a great example of humanity lol.

[@davidgalea6113]

Why does a rock from antartica cost 50k?

[@SlyMaelstrom]

Because, you the taxpayer, are paying for it and what the hell do they care about what you do with your money?

[@chuckschillingvideos]

@@SlyMaelstrom Oh no. You went and did it - introduced accountability and the expectation of financial return. Shame on you. Science is supposed to be "pure" and we are supposed to hand over whatever cash the government funded science "community" desires in order for them to pursue their science fantasy wet dreams. Didn't you know that?

[@davidgalea6113]

Now that I think about it, maybe he was referring to the total cost of acquiring it which would include the flights/travel plus all the other expedition costs?

[@Nugemart]

Galileo Galilei shifted our opinion in an age of religious ignorance and paid a huge price. Giodarno Bruno paid the ultimate price. Science has a awesome way of proving the masses wrong and vindicating the minority.

[@0neIntangible]

Yes, true so far and let us hope that science as a whole keeps on the strait path, providing overall beneficial sustenance to our planet. And that same science should not lead to the destruction of life here, by purpose or accident, or the realm of science will revert to be considered as cursed practises once again.

[@thewildandtheweird]

Galileo was more a victim of politics during the counter-reformation than of religious ignorance (he was actually a friend of the Pope). Interestingly, Copernicus had no such problems with the church 70 years before, when he published his model. Giordano Bruno is often portrayed as a science martyr (as in the newest cosmos series) and what happened to him is inexcusable but his heretical doctrines went way farther than his cosmology. I am not religious at all and believe that the church contributed to the destruction of a lot of knowledge (especially of the ancient world, that had to be reintroduced in the west through the arab invasions) but it is hard to disentagle the scientific revolution from religion, before the 19th century.

[@0neIntangible]

@@thewildandtheweird Good comment!

[@deifor]

Imagine bears turning into whales.

[@andrewmccombs7347]

Imagine being a subatomic particle sitting on a speck of dust under the couch in someone's living room and pretending to know what the whole world is like... let alone the solar system, let alone the galaxy...

[@Hughesburner]

Imagine a spec of sand, forming with other specs of sand, completely on their own...into a cellphone. It's like that.

[@andrewmccombs7347]

@@HughesburnerThat's illogical. I think that's your point.

[@garyrigby21]

bears!

[@goodfarmily4828]

Are there aliens? Whales have ear wax.

[@free2Lib]

see??? you learned something too!!!

[@cynerax]

😂

[@goodfarmily4828]

helicopters flying around the mars. Here's a piece of garlic toast from mars I found in my backyard.

[@Memphispally]

Wow. Sure am glad I got that question answered. I mean, I guess from the title there was something on the subject somewhere in all that. Just need to find it.

[@floridarealufo73]

I dunno about all those theories but I did record a flying saucer doing a flip and turn last night. You just have to look up.

[@TheYates27]

Brian is another really smart guy talking out of his ass. These scientists that say this stuff. Not only are they ridiculous, but it seems like they just don’t want it to be true. Too humbling maybe ?

[@NFawc]

And when one of the Viking life detection tests came up positive, and that test has not been repeated since? And we also have seasonal methane production possibly too?

[@Biosynchro]

Methane isn't necessarily a sign of life. Which raises very interesting questions...

[@NFawc]

@@BiosynchroTrue, but the Viking tests were metabolism tests, of which one came up positive. Again, not conclusive in itself, but interesting!

[@davidsirmons]

Stay on topic.

[@BLOXKAFELLARECORDS]

0 Aliens. Where are they? Show me ONE. #johnnyx100

[@RyukyuStyle]

I think there is probably life out there, I don't think there are any life that would be comparable to humans. Life began almost immediately on earth, it took billions of years to go from single cell to multi cell, they don't know how that happened, and billions of more years before humans showed up, and it has been like hundreds of thousands of years that humans were here? and only in that last few hundred years has any real technological advancement been made, and most of it has happened in the last 100 years, and most of that has been in the last 40 years, and most of that has been in the last 15 years. This level of intelligence on our own planet that we know has had life for billions of years, out of all the lifeforms ever, has only emerged once. Out of the multiple humanoid species, we are the only one that remains, the others have been wiped out. There is absolutely no evidence to suggest alien life that surpasses humans exists. We are on the cutting edge of understanding impossibilities.

[@goldeneddie]

You have a wonderful way of presenting ideas. Thank you.

[@joshuab4029]

dude wolves did not turn into whales. marine mammals are commonly known to be a type of ungulates. not that simply but they were once hooved animals not pawed animals.

[@standingbear998]

rogan is still lost and surprised by everything. falling for one of the biggest distractions ever. chasing aliens and bigfoot. I am 69 yrs old and my entire life the story has been the same with no real change and the question stills remains the same. where are they?

[@boogieman6529]

Dreams

[@twinnpower]

I don't know about big foot or aliens but I saw the UFO phenomenon and I was completely skeptical. I was among those who quit watching the history channel because got tired of the UFO B's

[@Likexner]

MuH diStraCTioNs

[@hjpinternet1244]

you cant prove aliens don’t exist …….

[@brandonmacey964]

I’m in the “there is no aliens until you show me” camp

[@IndianArma]

You can't prove that leprechauns and goblins don't exist

[@BobbyDazzler888]

@@brandonmacey964it it more unlikely that aliens dont exist. Theres almost an infinite variety of planets out there.

[@rpeck2832]

Anyone can make up unfalsifiable claims. You can't prove the Flying Spaghetti Monster dosnt exist and isn't the only God of the universe.

[@garycarder4363]

Fentynal mixed with dmso and painted on the door handles of your enemies is the best revenge, the dmso makes the Fentynal absorb in to the skin fast and fatal ,dmso can be purchased from any horse supply shop or online, happy hunting

[@DeadAgainLives]

Does this guy know how to party or what?! (Wayne's world reference ) meaning you're awesome !

[@erickopecky3774]

Simply put, Mars has no magnetosphere to shield solar radiation and sustain an atmosphere that can maintain liquid water. Not the same.

[@chuckschillingvideos]

Let's take our solar system, sans the Earth, were found in some other location. If an astronomer were to find it, it would be the biggest scientific news of our lifetime because of its similarity to our own, and yet there would be no life to speak of, no evidence of life forming in the past, present or future. All Dr. Keating is pointing out is....THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF EXTRATERRESTRIAL LIFE known to us. None. Not the smallest shred of it.

[@parisbarton4304]

Dr Brian with all due respect, your lying to us if your saying theres no life in our universe except here on earth.

[@imperator_odin]

@@parisbarton4304 Genius

[@Likexner]

"Lying" would suggest he knows. He doesnt know.

[@jjkkjkkjl]

With about 2 trillion galaxies in the OBSERVABLE universe, it's insane to me to think life hasn't arisen on at least one other planet. Why would we be special?

[@frankscott350]

Or, you could posit the question to say, "what are the odds that life would not have arisen on other planets circumstanced like ours (Goldilocks Zone), particularly given our present understanding that such planets may number in the trillions? In other words, what occurrences proved so unique, unusual, or rare on Earth that the likelihood of them occurring elsewhere is so marginal that it becomes fundamentally illogical to discuss the probability? Conversely, given the presence of life on this planet, isn't the logical conclusion that life may in fact be characteristic of or ubiquitous among similarly situated planets at certain intervals of their existence, considering this is the only verifiable example we have? I'm not sure what Mr. Keating's intention was here, other than to speculate that because planets like Mars don't harbor life (as far as we know at this time), it's unlikely others will as well. Framing a question in this manner often reflects the unsubstantiated certainty that can be prevalent in the scientific community.

[@tophrrr]

We've explored only 5% of our own oceans. Only about 25% of the seabed has even been mapped, and its not even the best resolution. We've discovered signs of life from tens of millions of years ago that was destroyed by what we assume to be a meteor. Even the Drake equation is anthropocentric and assumes things must be exactly as they are here. We just discovered liquid ocean underneath the ice on one of the moons in our own solar system. Only for the first time did we land on an asteroid to collect samples to see if it was dust or ice. It is hubris to assume that we are even qualified to make the assumption that there could not be life elsewhere; we can patch together some statistical guesswork but again, its fed by our limited understanding of the universe.

[@philschutte9295]

At least 2 trillion galaxies in the universe. Each with billions of stars.This guy must really be smart to have so much knowledge about so much space. Too smart for me😂. So smart to never see or listen to anything he ever says again.

[@BilboSlice]

Be quiet

[@ZM-dm3jg]

The counter-point to the argument he's making is that life started on Earth very early in it's existence.. which tells us that the probability of life forming must be very high (otherwuse it would have formed billions and billions of years later)

[@chuckschillingvideos]

Sample size of exactly one isn't statistically credible. Clearly you do not understand statistical probabilities.

[@beenalwhile1]

Didn't I see this guy on Looney Tunes

[@thefacelessquestion3333]

"... it's crawling with Kardashians..."😂😂😂

[@peterviceroy1592]

You have to allow for and can not discount the thousands of people who have had close encounters around the world over the past hundred years! A jury of only 12 people can sentence someone to death. Evidence provided by the thousands of people who had these experiences is far greater than any jury.

[@producerjc2941]

One of the biggest problems is assuming we know that life is uniformly similar across the Universe simply because we know what life is or what might be on Earth. For all we know, life could be in the form of energy or something entirely else that would be hard for us to comprehend. It might have a sophisticated form of intelligence. We can barely understand intelligence, what it is precisely, but we make assumptions that intelligence must only have one form just as life has to fit a certain mold in which is familiar to us. It's pure ignorance and also a bit of arrogance.

[@ScrewdriverTUNING]

Not this video again 😂 brian come on man. Mars and earth are not the same. Different everything.

[@francmittelo6731]

Existence needs to be proven. Consequently, the null hypothesis is aliens do not exist.

[@Likexner]

Thats only because you separate aliens from humans. If you rephrase the question to "is there intelligent life in the universe", the answer is yes. Then ask "is Earth the only place that has intelligent life" and the answer that it is tge only place suddenly seems ridiculous.

[@francmittelo6731]

@@Likexner Nah Bro. You are doing mental gymnastics. The answer to the question "Is Earth the only place that has intelligent life?" is Yes, until proven otherwise. The null hypothesis is "there are no aliens," because as far as we know, we are the only ones asking these questions.

[@Likexner]

@@francmittelo6731 Thats not mental gymnastics. If anything, its mental gymnastics to separate us from aliens to make the idea of aliens existing seem less likely.

[@meows_and_woof]

First he says the other planet has identical conditions to a planet with life then he says Mars, which is way colder, no magnetic field, no atmosphere, frozen solid

[@gpower9129]

What he fundamentally missed, on purpose or not, is Joe Rogan gives you the time to explain it well to him

[@tomk.8146]

Why after dragging back to the question and forcing him to answer, did the video cut out. Annoying.

[@michaelfilipiak687]

Joe - "...But aliens..."

[@makaiperry]

There’s a huge possibility that we’re not alone sorry but u alone on this one 🤷🏽‍♂️😂

[@gallinho7268]

My thoughts are: Single cell life in universe,100%, very common Multicellular life, from what I’ve learned is highly improbable and took over 3 billion years to jump from single cell on earth but it did so given the abundance of planets you would think it’s less common but still definitely exists. Intelligent multicellular life with opposable thumbs an the ability to build and also the ability to communicate with complex language, given all the species that have ever existed on earth we are the only ones then that must be rarer still and in a finite universe we may be one of the very few that exist. Technological Intelligent life that can travel the universe at or close to the speed of light without destroying themselves or depleting their home planets resources? May never happen given we are destroying our planet and no human has ever set foot on another planet yet. I used to think intelligent aliens would be everywhere but the more I look into what needs to happen for that to be the case the more I think we are super rare and even if beings like us are common, being able to have the resources and the time without facing any existential threats before figuring out how to travers the universe at near the speed of light, which is still super slow given the distances, means I think we will never meet or possibly know of any other civilisations before our demise.

[@That777GuyAgain]

You need to look at those odds of a single protein forming by chance again. Then you gotta ask how freewill exists and then ask how does reasoning work in a materialist universe.

[@MrTaytersDeep]

I hope Joe was just staying professional there, because a man just gave him a piece of Mars and he didn't even say Thank you

[@condelcos5734]

The Drake equations requires we assume infinite space but finite matter - why? Must have a finite amount of matter because we cant have infinite matter as it fucks the equation - infinite x infinite equals infinite, infinite divided by infinite equals infinite, ad infinitum

[@desoliver9712]

Mars has an atmosphere, but it's much thinner than Earth's and is made up of different gases: Composition: Mars' atmosphere is about 95.3% carbon dioxide, 2.7% nitrogen, and other gases. It contains less than 1% oxygen. Density: Mars' atmosphere is about 100 times less dense than Earth's.

[@allantulli5546]

There are unexplained flying vehicles, they are not ours. There is life out there and it's more advanced than we are.

[@glennvage]

look a little harder because those exotic craft came from us.we know this.

[@terminator8767]

@@glennvage stop posting lies

[@terminator8767]

@@glennvage what we humans made can not go at such speeds and immediately change direction goverments over the world has released facts about this and military these unidentified things are not made by us humans.

[@glennvage]

@@terminator8767 oh,the governments said so...ok then,your'e right

[@terminator8767]

it is the fallen not aliens.

[@tedgunderson67]

You’re missing a personal experience. A good sighting changes a worldview in an instant

[@chuckschillingvideos]

A good sighting of what?

[@tedgunderson67]

@@chuckschillingvideos a spacecraft that exceeds man’s understanding of physics.

[@chuckschillingvideos]

@@tedgunderson67 Be sure to let us know when you find one.

[@tedgunderson67]

@@chuckschillingvideos I as well as hundreds of thousands have encountered them, photographed them, estimated speeds. You’re 3000 years behind the curve, try and catch up.

[@chuckschillingvideos]

@@tedgunderson67 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Sure you have. Good luck with that tenuous hold on reality. You're losing the battle.

[@glenncurry3041]

Hell just froze! Rogan being more correctly analytical than an actual credentialed scientist? Saying as much about irrationality of the supposed scientist! Almost expected Brian to start talking about how he saw that the Antarctic is a ring around the flat Earth!

[@chriswheeler6092]

It would be a mistake for our government or anyone else to try and give a single answer for so many different events. When I look at the footage that I find on the internet I think that the majority of them are explainable, but it would be wrong to tell the public that there was a Single explanation for all of the different events.

[@RickCecrle-ep9ui]

What is big and what is small❤

[@RandomName-h1o]

I'm not sure I agree with his initial premise. Two planets in same solar system with similar conditions... how likely is it that both have life? His premise assumes it's very likely, but that sounds optimistic. There are so many things that need to happen to support life, it seems farfetched to say it's unlikely based on a sample size of one.

[@robertphillips93]

Science does not understand why life is present on the Earth. That is not equivalent to saying that the probability of finding life on Earth (or another Earth-like planet) is very high. In fact, the probability of finding reason in humans is dismally low . . .

[@andrewgibbs7099]

I think we are so primitive and so far down the line, we would not see intelligent life anywhere around us. It’s easy to hide…. We act like we are smart.

[@tonyisnotdead]

we are the smartest speices to ever exist

[@keithkeith6313]

I haven’t watched the whole video yet, but just from the beginning his whole example is a false BS example. He specifically said two planets that are pretty identical to each other and then he used that same analogy to compare Mars with earth. Mars and earth are not that identical. Has no atmosphere, no plant life, no oxygen, etc (at least that which we know of). So his whole example that he gave his bogus.

[@sagdragon64]

2:34 in and this guy already lost me.

[@frankiefernandez9225]

We are not alone - common sense

[@Likexner]

Scientist really like to stretch the idea of what they consider to be "Earth-like".

[@cuddywifter8386]

Remember when the entire scientific community dismissed the idea of rocks falling from the sky. Because it didn't fit it with the paradigm 😉

[@darrentoffan4216]

I know I won't be believed, but I once saw an alien ship that looked like a giant, pale yellow egg that slowly pulsated: brighter, dimmer, over and over... And there were several other amazing things I noticed about it as well, however I fully understand and accept that I'll never be believed and that's just how it is.. but I know what I saw was NOT of human design. And I most definitely understand the skepticism from those who have never had a similar experience.. it's most definitely something that must be personally experienced since it's so outside normal everyday existence.. - D

[@gawayne1374]

I would have actually used Venus and Earth. Mars gravity is too much smaller than Earth, so that it's been stripped to nothing.

[@IndianArma]

Venus is slightly off the habitable zone

[@drcurioustube]

​@@IndianArma Slightly 😆👍

[@gawayne1374]

@@IndianArma if you want to take an old approximation as dogma, sure. But Venus could be habitable if it's atmospheric composition where different. In fact, at high altitudes it's quite close to habitable

[@IndianArma]

@gawayne1374 that's not what I am saying. I agree that our aasumptions and conception of carbon based life and its survivability may be very limited and I am aware that the upper atmosphere of Venus has often demonstrated phantom signs of biosignatures, like methane, etc. The premise of Brian's question was specifically 'earth like', Venus is not rocky at the surface, although it may be continental, and is not within the habitable zone or goldilocks zones the habitability of which are very much a function of planet composition with respect to where they are present. For instance you may have a rocky planet but if it's so hot that the surface is magma then the core composition doesn't do much. The premise of Brian's question, while limiting (perhaps delibrately so to make a point), if accepted, eliminates Venus from.consideration.

[@gawayne1374]

@@IndianArma but Venus is rocky. It's only very hot because of a runaway greenhouse effect.

[@eonasjohn]

Thank you for your time. Dr. Keating.

[@memeticist]

For those watching this with a skeptical take - which is fine to have - he left out the details of the best argument against the likelihood of widespread life on other planets. That would be the rare earth hypothesis, which was well explicated in the book Rare Earth Why Complex Life Is Uncommon in the Universe (2003). This asserts that while no one aspect of Earth is particularly unique the combination of factors is incredibly rare. For example, being located in the habitable zone on spiral galaxy. Those galaxies only constitute around 2% of all galaxies, and the habitable zone within those are rather small. Additionally, a rocky planet with plate tectonics is not necessarily common and the list goes on. Keating himself has pointed out that it would only take eight variables with a 1/1000 probability of occurring in a solar system for the probability of life to fall to with one order of magnitude of the number of planets in the universe.

[@freddykneechi1649]

Shut up nerd

[@R14-m4z]

Brian Keating acts as though the "Drake Equation" is hard science instead of just an intellectual thought experiment. Opinion discarded.

[@Whittmike2011]

So, the Sahara dessert doesn't exist, because of all the vegetation and life that surrounds it?

[@Abdominal65]

The universe is eternal, the big bang never happened. We need to stop projecting our own sense of mortality on the universe if we ever want to understand it.

[@baits9301]

From dinosaur to humans and everything in between . If the conditions are right you should have life . Even if you take the cleanest water and leave it for a few months out side , it would be full of life .

[@sburns2421]

Ironically the debate still exists if the meteor from 1996 shows fossilized evidence of Martian bacteria. Not impressed with him TBH. Not because I may disagree with his position on ET, but because he tried to be clever in the Mars-Earth comparison in light of the asteroid debate. Surely he knows about it.

[@robg5346]

Could this conversation be any les science based? Rogan is saying that there is likely different kinds of life that we wouldn't even recognize, etc. If these two don't agree on the definition of life, before asking "is there life," then the conversation is ridiculous at best. Define life, and then have an intelligent conversation about the possibility of it.

[@Left-Foot-Brake]

I respect Dr Keating's perspective and agree with his logic. I'm also sure he would agree that probability is not definitive, and the Drake equation does not define reality.

[@danhnguyen-fn9eb]

Can you imagine the shock by the folks who're around this guy if he ever finished a coherent thought?

[@StephenDedalus74]

I tend to think that there are odd things on Mars... Fossils of tiny creatures that lived there long time ago, and maybe even living things, beneath the surface... There are sooo many places on Mars no one has seen yet, with a closer look...

[@Torquemada70]

"It's hard to prove a negative"..... Even ignoring that - for a Doctor, he doesn't do a lot of math.

[@stephenforfitt1707]

Fascinating listen..

[@andrewlangley9507]

The hubris is stunning.

[@sstewart44]

Really dude? You really believe that BS your spewing?

[@VinchenzoC]

So, Mars is in the "life zone" so it should have life, but doesn't so that proves there's no other life? Isn't the size all wrong for gravity? I'm not buying his hypothesis just yet.

[@TheChrisleekay]

My gut feeling is that the Universe is absolutely teeming with life!! Much maybe primative but plenty intelligent to! We've only been looking for ET for 50 years ish and we've mapped a tiny proportion of whats up there!

[@hamptongray4860]

Who’s to say life never existed on Mars? Time is a crucial part of finding life outside of our planet, where the cross between our species not yet extinct meets another species, having not gone extinct yet.

[@jeremytaflinger4212]

i read hippos are closest thing to whales

[@Gamer-dude247]

'They' have been trying to close pandoras box since Roswell, but unfortunately for 'they', as we all know the story of pandoras box, 'they' can try and try to place everything back into pandoras box or try to cover it up, but it ain't gonna happen, pandoras box is open.