Tip the Scales 100 - Grand Finals - Skyjay (Incineroar) vs Ouch (Wolf)

[@FirstLast-mn4re]

Ouch seems to really know this matchup well. He's not really falling for a lot of the revenge shenanigans and was punishing Incinroar's lackluster recovery really well. This might be the most I've ever seen Skyjay struggle, getting 0-deathed multiple times.

[@empanothing]

He went off stage and died for it because he didn't realize incineroar wasn't making it back in game 2

[@zer0luink]

I noticed that too. He practically threw away that stock ​@@empanothing

[@5hyguy42]

We have seesaw in our region who is probably a top 2 incin. They are training partners

[@iridescence7554]

Skyjay did NOT feel like playing neutral that day

[@gelatinousjoe7979]

Lmao

[@alanarriaga6204]

Skyjay looked so predictable, you could tell ouch was purposefully baiting a lot of revenges outta him. Some patience would’ve gone a long way

[@empanothing]

Ouch holds forward

[@RickyG93]

​@@empanothingcap

[@ElliottShelton]

He looked tilted in the last stock of game 4 reset. Rare to see him lose composure, but it showed in his play too. Ouch was playing out of his mind to be fair, great patience and kept pushing his advantage state without giving Sky any time to breathe. Those fastfall tomahawk grabs that could've functioned as an auto cancel bair in reaction to an aggressive option were beautiful neutral play, and he kept getting those grabs by calling out Sky's fairly predictable options, he lost multiple stocks by sideB-ing directly into Ouch's fsmash coming off ledge. If that happens once you stop doing it and reassess your neutral; it's a sign you're being read like a book. Even when Sky did mix it up though, Ouch seemed to always have a reaction to catch it, part of that is wolf as a character being a great all-rounder in neutral, advantage, and ledgetrapping, but it's also Ouch for having the technical ability and reactions to pull that stuff off in reset finals. Sky didn't look his best in grands, but he got there on winner's side for a reason; he's the world's best Incin, with one of the world's best mindsets that will allow him to learn from his mistakes in these sets. Sometimes you just get Better Player'd.

[@RickyG93]

SkyJay talkin to himself between games be like: "Man I didn't press Side B hard enough in that last match, Ima Side B even harder this time!"

[@crisbarretmusic2990]

jajajajajajajajja

[@kugavidal4644]

Such an explosive set I just love to see these both chars in action. ❤

[@sebaschan-uwu]

He exploded all over me

[@rnnagle]

Yikes! I came to watch my boy win, instead he got the spit beaten out of him.

[@dogyX3]

Kinda sad we don't see Wolf at super majors anymore

[@f210-t1r]

Lucina isn’t there either the characters a good for regular gamers but against top tiers and top tiers piloted by top tier players you need to stay at the top of the top apparently

[@ragames7320]

Eventually we will see wolf at top level again, if we see formerly irrelevant characters like mario Luigi olimar and even banjo at super majors now it's a matter of time before we get a good wolf player. I'm hoping we get a top Japanese wolf sometime in the future.

[@Senayoshy]

​@@ragames7320calling Mario irrelevant is wild

[@AbeBartlett]

@@Senayoshy agreed. Mario has so much more raw kill power compared to wolf. I can't tell you how many times I tried to pick wolf up just to put him down because I can't net kills unless I have a telepathic connection with my opponent.

[@mediocrity5693]

@@ragames7320 unfortunately atelier pretty much dropped wolf for pt

[@derekstockwell5773]

Sky Jay with side b on stage

[@GoharioFTW]

jesus christ. did skyjay insult this man's family or something? do they know each other? or is ouch just this randomly hyper-familiar with the matchup?

[@lukefriede2986]

Yeah he just had no fear for incin at all

[@mediocrity5693]

One of the best players in ouch’s region is seesaw, an incineroar player. Idk about the other two questions

[@AbeBartlett]

@@mediocrity5693 skyjay boned his girl teehee

[@AlanJHPlata]

​@@AbeBartlettSkyjay is into the Drake type of girls bro

[@naveedahmedny]

As a Wolf main I was noticing Ouch never uses Up Smash. Literally the only up smash he threw out in Set 1 was the set-winning kill. Shows how players are always aware of all their options and don’t show their hand. I also notice he never uses blaster, which makes sense against Incin who can use Revenge. In set 1, Ouch shot 1 blaster randomly and Skyjay shielded it. Top players always ready and aware of both their own and the opponents’ options at any moment

[@empanothing]

0 to death into lose the game is a true combo

[@AbeBartlett]

The way incineroar just brings back a game in 2 hits feels so busted seeing it within the context of a high stakes game. Ouch can hit him 20 times and he needs a single revenge hit to even the board.

[@marioorozco4921]

How was ouch in losers and skyjay in winners with this type of gameplay?

[@crescentryoshi3717]

Fundies charas kinda suck in this game. If you look at current top results most charas have some sort of gimmick or cheese to take early stocks.

[@prodwysp]

@@crescentryoshi3717 if youre implying incineroar is a better character than wolf you are very mistaken

[@crescentryoshi3717]

@@prodwysp he faces the current meta better than wolf. Where wolf has to win 5 interactions on average for a kill, incineroar has to win two. Even Skyjay himself said Incineroar's slept on. Wolf doesn't have that random kill factor to win tournament, hence him falling off, it's also why Palu and Lucina don't shine either (and why Proto favored MinMin over Lucina before retiring)

[@sebaschan-uwu]

​@prodwysp he just said incineroar is a cheese character which is true. It's easier to beat someone who's unfamiliar with cheese than to beat someone with honest fundies gameplay with a basic character

[@prodwysp]

@@crescentryoshi3717 thats fair, i just think in this matchup wolf has a massive advantage in speed

[@crisbarretmusic2990]

q paliza tan brutal jajajjajajajaja 😅 se noto la superioridad desde el primer match

[@alfonsosaballos9539]

Wolf is a really good character to play with and show skill, all incineroar does is revenge and that ridiculous side b Thats just crazy

[@beaves2311]

Ouch making Skyjay look like he has 6 mil GSP

[@aToastedPickle]

Sky, how many times you going to side-b onto stage only to get up smashed? I counted 5

[@jacobgee1261]

Bro why is skyjay out here playing like me

[@joeyC34ee]

I gotta buddy who is an Incin mane. He believes Wolf and Mario are Incin’s worst MUs. Ouch is kinda proving his point.

[@salty5587]

19:32 this sequence 😮‍💨

[@PassTheSnails]

It’s cause he’s not wearing the steelers jacket man

[@crazman36]

Great set. I think it’s funny how they keep asking if they want to run it back, when neither really has secondaries like that lol should just be a given run it back.

[@yappaplay]

Damn! I like skyjay but ouch just demolished the hell out of him.

[@Metabolica1]

Jakal is a very efficient/great player and the results speak, but man when you watch Ouch!? sometimes you'd swear he's the best Wolf.

[@Shiv_BC]

Other than crown which was a while ago, Ouch has had better results and has been way more consistent. He's the best wolf rn imo.

[@Metabolica1]

@Shiv_BC Nice. He's definitely more entertaining to watch. He and Kola i think are up there as the best players when it comes to getting unexpected grabs which i like is invaluable at this level.

[@Dadus7279]

Why was skyjay wasting his jump instant when he goes offstage like this 6:36??

[@turyvalles469]

Skyjay awebado a regresar agresivo desde afuera del stage

[@ky7501]

Wow that first game was the worst I’ve ever seen from skyjay lol he picked it back up though

[@GV-dg2lk]

Looks like Ouch! Really did his homework and Skyjay didn’t…or perhaps Skyjay was off his game this day..either way, good stuff! Ouch! has really improved!

[@Dadus7279]

SkyJay se puso en modo automático estoy 100% seguro

[@exarack]

L to the sound

[@gabrielnunez8504]

14

[@highlandave8507]

Yeah. Damn. If y'all know, you know.

[@animaIpath]

@@highlandave8507 false allegations

[@carlossegovia6544]

El skyjey todo chiflado queriendo hacer side B down B a cada rato, por eso perdió, ouch le leyó todo y se acostumbró

[@adams1227]

Did anyone else think that was MKleo in the back

[@JayKSilver]

BC babyyyyy!!!

[@お腹空いた-n5p]

何か良いな 悪の獣人対決

[@manny55taqos]

Ouch back stepped smashed in all games, jay never did anything about it

[@VillainxLife]

Ouch had skyjay solved lmao

[@jamesjoe1690]

16:07

[@teissyu]

何でアウチ、ガーキャン掴みでコンボしないんだろ

[@Dinosaurhehe173]

skyways worst performance...what is going on????

[@Dinosaurhehe173]

got autocorrected, skyjay

[@Matesozen]

He lost in grand finals against one of the best Wolfs around, relax

[@Dinosaurhehe173]

@@Matesozen bruh

[@prodwysp]

i dont think its skyjay throwing nearly as much as it is ouch knowing the matchup really well and punishing skyjay for just about all of incineroars problems

[@banzai1783]

Skyjay ❤❤ so fine

[@BobbyFischer0000]

Why does it say he/him beside their game tag? Is politics now?

[@tomcampbell8934]

Because woke/commie propaganda has infected civilization to its core.

[@AbeBartlett]

pronouns have nothing to do with politics

[@BobbyFischer0000]

@@AbeBartlett Really? And what is the relevance of he/him/they/them beside their gamer tag? Why do we need to know how they identify?

[@PassTheSnails]

@@BobbyFischer0000 it’s so commentators know how to address the players, incase they go by a certain set. Chill

[@animaIpath]

@@PassTheSnails “a certain set” el oh el

[@HustoMiranda]

This is a terrible matchup for wolf, everything wolf does, incineroar does better and double the damage. Its inmaculate how precise ouch player this one, readings, spacing, everything

[@lokks2130]

That's just not true? LMAOOO wolf deniers are crazy man

[@TAZERAT]

As an Incin main, this matchup sucks. wolf can just kind of weave in and out of incins burst range really well. Yes you have to be very percise, but if you are, this matchup is like 7-3 in wolfs favor.

[@Matesozen]

Non pros arguing about matchups like they have the skill/experiences to fully understand anything will always be so odd to me

[@TAZERAT]

@@Matesozen true but it's fun to argue about things that we have no clue about 😂

[@prodwysp]

@@Matesozen right

[@franciscorangel710]

I dont know why in the score the people write he/him, stupid idea