Dreamworks Vs. Disney 2023 Who Won?

[@n19ntendods]

As someone who’s never been a big fan of the Trolls franchise, I actually think Trolls 3 was shockingly pretty amazing. Don’t get me wrong, I still prefer The Bad Guys and Puss in Boots 2, but I still enjoyed Trolls 3, as it delved into Branch’s past and we got to see him and Poppy in a romantic relationship. 🥰🥰🥰💖💙

[@willielloyd7422]

Yeah and I like some of the scenes in trolls 3 like when poppy called John Dory the old one in the group that made me laugh

[@PussInBootsTheLastWishFan2003]

I think I like Trolls 3 between Puss In Boots The Last Wish and The Bad Guys as my 2nd favorite DreamWorks movie

[@avengirl6479]

I am a fan of the Trolls franchise and I do confirm that the 3rd film is amazing. While it may not be like Puss in Boots: The Last Wish, Trolls 3 is still an S tier movie for me and it was pretty close

[@PussInBootsTheLastWishFan2003]

@@avengirl6479 agreed

[@n19ntendods]

@@avengirl6479 Yeah. I agree with you.

[@ChelCM03]

I find it hysterical how Wish was originally supposed to have a villain DUO (the king and queen were supposed be villains together) and Wish also has one of the weakest Disney soundtracks of all time. Meanwhile, Dreamworks releases hecking Trolls 3 with a fun badass villain duo AND a kickass villain song "Watch Me Work" (which Im assuming is an original for the movie cause i cant seem to find anything that says its a cover) Like damn Ive seen more fanart for Velvet and Veneer than i have for all of the Wish characters combined. More people are hyped about Trolls 3 than the latest Disney princess movie

[@RYMAN1321]

Yeah the soundtrack to Wish is meh at best but I did like the main theme song by Ariana Debose. And the “You’re a Star” song is alright too

[@dragonfire1466]

Velvet and Venner edits literally got me into the trolls series. Third movie was so good

[@jocelynecupcake]

I could do without the villain duo, but I was mostly upset because they were going to make Star a love interest who couldn't speak. He wasn't going to be a big strong looking prince either, he was just going to look like a normal teen boy.

[@Epic_Halfblood]

@@dragonfire1466 same lol. I was never really into the franchise (I six when the first movie came out so, go figure 😂) but I did like it. I still shy away from watching the first movie because I kinda cringe when I see it (a lil bit, not too much) and the second movie is good, and the third… I can write an entire essay on it but I loved it. Best movie I’ve probably ever seen this year. (Besides Zootopia lol) It had basically what people wanted out of Disney’s Wish. A good villain duo (even more after seeing the concept art for Wish. Like, Disney, we could’ve had our first villain duo for you in Disney history.) and an incredibly good soundtrack. And a couple lol. Still super disappointed after learning that we could’ve gotten a Star Boy love interest! It would’ve been the first couple in Disney (for the protagonist) in a little less than a decade.

[@Star-dy2cj]

trolls 3 fandom is still going STRONG rn

[@n19ntendods]

Elemental was actually not that bad. Much like Turning Red, it was better than I expected it to be.

[@Lalaloopsies_United]

Nah what ya mean, both were bad

[@_kelsius_]

@@Lalaloopsies_UnitedI thought they were okay, I don’t think they were very bad movies when I watched them.

[@Lalaloopsies_United]

@@_kelsius_ nah bro, they were horrendous

[@cannoli8084]

@@Lalaloopsies_UnitedWhy do you say that?

[@no-sky5595]

@@Lalaloopsies_United ig personal preference? I definitely think Elemental was a good 7.5-8/10

[@justinechaine5679]

I am so happy about the quality Dreamworks put into their movies lately. The Last Wish is absolutely amazing, the Bad Guys was wonderful and I am VERY happy with how they did Trolls 3. They know what good writing brings them now, so we can hope for it to stay this good. Ever since 2021, Dreamworks has been delivering great movies almost every year.

[@misschocoki]

….Kung Fu Panda 1&2…. Shrek… The Prince of Egypt…. Home… Megamind… How To Train Your Dragon 2….. Madagascar… and so on.. Dreamworks has been making good movies 😭😭😭

[@justinechaine5679]

@@misschocoki I'm saying that movies they released have been consistently great since that year How To Train Your Dragon, Kung Fu Panda and Trolls are some of my favorite franchises of all time! I also love Rise Of The Guardians, Spirit and the original Puss In Boots. Home is very nostalgic for me, I still love it. Of course Shrek and Madagascar are quite good! I haven't watched the other 2D animation movies they made so I don't know if I'd like them or not though

[@locomotivetrainstation6053]

When dreamworks makes 2 good movies in a row you say they are great when Pixar easily pulls it off

[@kose3305]

You say 2021 and in 2021 they released a Spirit movie and Boss Babby 2, in my opinion the 2 worst movies that Dreamworks has made

[@avengirl6479]

Trolls 3 was a masterpiece of peak cinema. It may not be like Puss in Boots 2 but it's still an amazing film and it was pretty close. Everything about it was amazing and im definitely adding the soundtrack to my playlists

[@PussInBootsTheLastWishFan2003]

I agree with you

[@nicolasrestrepo6177]

Is trolls 3 really out?! I thought it was coming out next year

[@Gaber_edites9103]

Same.

[@mariominiondude]

@@PussInBootsTheLastWishFan2003 strange guy

[@PussInBootsTheLastWishFan2003]

@@mariominiondude what?

[@GustavArvidssonUlfson-rw1uc]

To me, I think Dreamworks won 2023 because Ruby Gillman, Teenage Kraken and Trolls Band Together are both great movies. Ruby Gillman is a decent new original story and Trolls band Together is a fantastic third entry in the franchise. Plus Trolls 3 may now have become on of my favourite animated movies.

[@colecamp2539]

Couldn't agree more

[@KristinHTF]

Yeah, I actually liked Ruby Gillman because it was original and it had a pretty good concept!! It's kinda overhated smh :/

[@luuduonghy659]

@@KristinHTF Although the film did suffer a loss of 23.8 million USD as of 13/12/2023 Budget: 70 million USD Box office: 46.2 million USD

[@Jymboslicx]

Ruby Gilman? More like ruby midman

[@KristinHTF]

Bahahha that's pretty funny

[@colecamp2539]

I really don't care what Rotten Tomato Critics or anyone else has to say about Ruby Gillman, I think it was a very good film worth watching and deserved way better than what it got. It's doing better now on Blu-Ray and Digital and No-one can tell me otherwise. Not every film has to be a "Puss in Boot's 2" Level Masterpiece to be enjoyed

[@RYMAN1321]

Maybe but for example The Bad Guys ended up being good enough to do well at the box office. Yes it wasn’t as emotional or deep as Puss in Boots 2 but it still had decent amount of heart and humor that made it successful

[@suspiciousstar7547]

Thank you! We don't need every DreamWorks film to portray panic attacks, the personification of death, murder, and a rekindled love story 😂. As long as the movie has a fun plot and is enjoyable, we should give it a shot!

[@jocelynecupcake]

@@suspiciousstar7547 I agree!!!!

[@terrenceseverino493]

Same as me

[@Ilovecats72836]

While I thought Elemental was a decent film compared to the absolute GARBAGE Disney has been making in the past year, it still doesn't hold up to Disney's older films. I think that the last great film they made was Encanto, that movie had gorgeous animation, a heartfelt story, and a banger soundtrack. I hope disney will come back to their sinces and make more movies like it.

[@RYMAN1321]

I’m glad Elemental ended up finding big success at the box office though. Which is promising for original work. But yes I really loved that film, I found it wholesome, touching, and emotional at times.

[@beebs4283]

i’d really just like to see them make an encanto show

[@RYMAN1321]

@@beebs4283 I think knowing how popular Encanto became, it’s very possible we’ll get something like shorts and / or a miniseries like they’ve done with other IPs

[@griffinkimball2454]

I mean Encanto is Disney's (not including Pixar) 3rd most recent movie. They seem to be able to put out amazing work on semi-rare occasions right now with Moana and Encanto

[@CursedGrimwalker]

As they say "Expect nothing and you won't be disappointed" I enjoyed wish and elemental pretty much more than any Disney movie that came out recently.

[@unicornpupart]

same edit: ok no not wish

[@Aria_Nora]

I agreed! 👍

[@DrasticFox2004]

Wish is awesome.

[@sonic-fists]

Its pretty concerning if a trolls movie was better than a disney anniversary movie-

[@avengirl6479]

As a fan of Trolls for 7 years, I highly agree. I kinda predicted that Trolls 3 would do better than Wish considering that Disney is in its flop era and look where it's going now

[@nightmarestar01]

Lets Gooooo Trolls Baby

[@justinechaine5679]

I mean, anniversairy movie? Yeah, I hate to say it as a fan of 7 years too. Yeah I freaking adore Trolls and I am really glad about the love the third movie is getting, but Disney should have put all their efforts and best writing in Wish.

[@Lalaloopsies_United]

Like come on, a movie celebrating and ending 100 years of one of the most famous and recognisable companies Vs a cash grab movie, if your 100th anniversary movie LOSES to a cash grab then that’s gotta hurt

[@biwakigaming_offical]

and better villains tbh

[@script_0529]

I remember being excited about Ruby Gilman. I mostly saw people being skeptical about it, I was in the same boat, but we were hopeful still. It looked like a fun movie. However word got around and too much of the movie was revealed in the trailers. Ended up forgetting about the movie coming out entirely tbh.

[@ed_cmntonly]

everyone hyped it up as "the movie that had ariel as a villain" until the movie actually came out and nobody gives two cruds about it 💀

[@PathPainter]

Elemental was the best pixar movie this year, the critics are just jealous that fictional character can enjoy their lives and feel love.

[@Lalaloopsies_United]

It was the best Pixar movie this year, but that’s not saying much as all of Disney’s movies were hot garbage

[@DORAisD34D]

@@Lalaloopsies_United is everything just black and white for you? Elemental doesn’t have to be a masterpiece for it to be a good movie

[@Lalaloopsies_United]

@@DORAisD34D I know but that’s not what I’m saying, it’s not a good movie in general and the movie was terrible, try get that through your mind dumbass

[@PathPainter]

​@@Lalaloopsies_UnitedNah, Disney is still good, but its just that they've lost they're touch, like think about coming up with stories for 100 years, pretty hard isn't it?

[@Lalaloopsies_United]

@@PathPainter my guy, losing your touch is the definition of bad, plus Disney had flop over flop over flop and all their movies this year were hot garbage Also nah bro, you gotta be smoking something if you think it’s hard to come up with a movie to celebrate 100 years, and Disney’s problem isn’t that they didn’t know what to do with Wish, it’s because they HAD the right ideas but then watered them down to the point where it lost all flavour

[@yinyangyt8749]

I found Wish to be super boring but Elemental was pretty good. Now I haven’t seen the new Trolls but Ruby Gillman was fantastic. I loved it a ton. But I do think Disney is going downhill a little

[@RYMAN1321]

Yeah Wish was a mixed bag (I did like the music and animation though). But yeah Elemental was fantastic, it’s my favorite Disney / Pixar film in years. And I’m glad it ended up being successful at the box office

[@yuzu4406]

i love the trolls. 3 is probably the best plot wise amongst the three movies

[@Aria_Nora]

Ruby Gillman could have been a lot better but it's okay 🤙

[@danieljuries9473]

Ruby gillman is REALLY not as bad as everyone is saying it is.Its quite a good movie.Havent seen wish just yet so I'll see about that.

[@colecamp2539]

Not every movie has to be a Puss in Boots level Masterpiece to be enjoyed

[@danieljuries9473]

@@colecamp2539 Yeah,I think everybody is comparing it to puss in boots the last wish and that's just not fair.Whenever I watch a movie made by a company I already know(unless it's a sequel)I try to pretend every other movie they've made doesn't exist.Just like in real life "comparison is the death of happiness"

[@RYMAN1321]

@@danieljuries9473I get it, but a film such as The Bad Guys didn’t need to be as emotionally deep as Puss in Boots 2 but it still ended up being quite successful at the box office. IMO it had a decent amount of heart and humor to propel it

[@coachcherokee1488]

Yes it is

[@slytheringuy0529]

Ruby Gillman is not Good or Bad, It was just Mediocre, Average or Mid.

[@muhammadmuhaso]

I’d say Ruby Gillmans (the movie) struggles were valid. They literally put up Puss in Boots 2 and they must’ve been overworked.

[@konstantinosp-a6447]

When i was a kid, i grew up watching both Disney/Pixar and Dreamworks and i loved watching their films as they are parts of my childhood. I'm one of the kids who lived during Disney Revival Era as one of the firsts films (probably the first one) i watched in theaters was Princess and the Frog. After that i watched other films (Tangled, Wreck it Ralph, Frozen, Big Hero 6, Zootopia, Moana). About the recent Disney films like Raya, Encanto and Strange World, i found them ok and i found it sad that Disney receive so much hate for good and bad reasons. About Pixar and Dreamworks, I love them equally. But everytime they focus on Disney hate, they include undersevedly Pixar in the hate and they use Dreamworks including Illumination against it, which make me angry. I bet in alternative reality where if Disney bought Dreamworks instead of Pixar, then they would hate Dreamworks instead of Pixar just because its part of Disney. That's why i hate Disney vs Dreamworks edits since Strange World bombing and Puss in Boots 2 succeeding and then Disney vs Dreamworks/Illumination since Super Mario Bros grossed 1 billion and now Disney vs Dreamworks/Illumination/Sony since Spider Man ATSV. That hate made me more defending for Disney (yes i know they make very bad decisions and mediorce content). I was happy when Ruby Gillman flopped (underservedly) with my mind that they will stop editing that rivalry. But since Wish is flopping and is receiving hate for being lackluster, it seems the rivalry will continue. What i can say is that Disney/Pixar and Dreamworks have their ups and downs, and i still like all of them. I hope 2024 will be a good year for Dreamworks and Disney/Pixar (Kung Fu Panda 4, Inside Out 2, Orion and the Dark Netflix and some 2024 upcoming Disney film, probably Zootopia 2).

[@neogranzong]

I don't think the next film is Zootopia 2, I think that was just greenlit this year, or at best during late 2022. I think they did their first test screening back in late August, and it's only an assumption because the staff posted on twitter that they were doing one while wearing bunny ears lol. It'll probably come out in 2026, or 2027 because movies usually take 4 years to make. God, please let it be good...

[@skyenight-by8yh]

Not to be rude but it’s actually “Orion and the Dark”. I saw the trailer for it and it intrigues me by the dozen. 😂

[@starthefrakkfangirl6094]

Yes. The fanboys have ruined DW for me permanently.

[@konstantinosp-a6447]

​@@skyenight-by8yhoh thanks for correcting me 😅

[@konstantinosp-a6447]

​@@starthefrakkfangirl6094i still like DreamWorks, but yes its stans really ruined my love for DW too

[@g.dstudios745]

The thing that made Pixar so great was the sad and relatable storyline that we views won’t ever forget 😢

[@jeffreyquinde6707]

The thing with Trolls: Band Together is that it seems like the filmmakers were exhausted after the scale and ambition of the second film, that they went for a lower stakes story, meaning it had less pop songs and less characters

[@k.t.4613]

I personally think that's a win for this movie. Less characters but more flesh out personality for them. Less songs but every single one of them is a banger and appropriate for the scene. The stake isn't "the world is literally ending" but more personal which makes it more grounded. And the visual is still creative as always. Idk I like how this movie is so chill but still has heart and enjoyable it's just a good time :]

[@ofikky]

​@@k.t.4613true

[@jayford4589]

​@@k.t.4613Agreed. I'm a sucker for more heartfelt stories, and the movie hits me for a lot of similar reasons that Encanto did, it was focused on a family with a tight dynamic that hurt to watch, and you could see bits of their dynamic in your own family. I never gave Trolls the light of day before this point, but I can say I was pleasantly surprised by how Branch's dynamic with all of his brothers, especially Floyd, hit home for me and genuinely kind of hurt to watch, something I'd NEVER anticipate from a Trolls movie of all things. I liked the more personal story a lot, and I hope they keep putting out solid movies like this every year, even if they're not quite HTTYD, Puss In Boots, or Shrek levels.

[@BendyfanAnimations]

It’s funny because I excepted Dreamworks to come out stronger this year after Puss in Boots, but then Elemental came out and I was genuinely hooked onto it, even to this day. Ruby Gillman and Trolls 3, however, one had a really predictable story and nonexistent marketing, and the other was just an okay sequel. (I’m not fond with Trolls, even if the music is a bop) I see it as Disney won just by a tiny slight margin. Wish may be doing terribly, but I personally don’t see the complaints people make about it. I just thought it was a nice film at best.

[@kittykittybangbang9367]

Let's be real if it wasn't for the villains in trolls 3, nobody would be praising it or care for it.

[@helena7578]

For this being Disney’s 100th year anniversary, and the fact that both the movies that they released were not super popular or exciting, I want to say that dreamworks definitely won this year.

[@kittykittybangbang9367]

@@helena7578 You act like Ruby Gillman wasn't the most cliched and most predictable films of the year.

[@helena7578]

@@kittykittybangbang9367 so was wish, what’s ur point?

[@kittykittybangbang9367]

@@helena7578 Disney at least has Elemental which made a huge comeback and beat out spider verse

[@steampunk-llama]

The marketing for Ruby Gillman not existing def seems to be a regional thing, bc it was plastered EVERYWHERE here in Australia (at the very least, it was in my specific state)

[@elsielf]

I didnt even know this movie existed until I watched this video😭

[@ItzBlxzing]

Wait so it did better in Australia than anywhere else?

[@chloeafton2414]

Tbh dreamworks won in my opinion. Although Ruby Gillman was just okay ish but it was waaaaaay better than what Disney had spit out and trolls band together does visually look better than wish with its vibrant colours and catchy songs and decently established characters unlike wish with just lukewarm underdeveloped characters

[@starthefrakkfangirl6094]

Another moronic DW fanboy here. Ugh!

[@slytheringuy0529]

But Elemental is better than What DreamWorks is making in 2023. Elemental made a bigger Box Office than these Three Movies. Ruby Gillman and Trolls 3 are both Mid.

[@windle4125]

I remember going to see elementals on a Tuesday at 4 pm. The theater was empty it was amazing

[@TheFuntimeCrew]

That elemental character saying "clod" 😂 too bad the kid wasn't a green dorrito.

[@Simbala-bq5vy]

I found elemental pretty charming I haven't watched the other 3 movies

[@blackprism5381]

OK I’m gonna be on topic and off-topic. Let me start off by saying this first I think DreamWorks wins because I feel more feel like they’re movies resonate more with their audience. They treat their audience with the maturity that is needed that they touch on heavy topics are well implemented within the story, which doesn’t break the immersion, which is why I can appreciate DreamWorks. That’s why I love Puss in boots how to train your dragon, kung fu panda because those movies are growing up with their audience. Disney for the most part I can say they kinda treat their audience like children like and then not trying anything new like anything newest they’re trying to try somehow in our part of Disney just tries to not give that movie the attention it deserves or try to hold back on that new innovative way that’s gonna be risky and Disney does not take a risk and that’s the problem. ChillyChivy i’m not so sure that you heard of this, but Disney Pixar movies soul,Luca and turning red are going to be heading to theaters. I just wanted to know your thoughts on it and thought I am not too sure about it. I feel like the movie might get overshadowed by the newer movies that come out.

[@gbr4732]

I genuinely loved trolls 3, I slightly remember the 1st and never saw the second but the soundtrack carried it and the characters where actually really enjoyable

[@disneylover6408]

I'd say it's a tie for me. Both companies have had their ups and downs this year not just because of movie quality and/or quantity, but also because of the current inflation going on.

[@GigaDriggaDragon]

Money maker or not if we fan get a boss baby tv show, we can get a Ruby Gillman Teenage Kraken TV show. For Disney Wish is proof once again that sticking to the concept art is a lottery for the end results success.

[@ceecee8507]

Idk how anyone can dislike elemental. That movie is one of my all time favorites nothing too crazy but its everyday life but heartwarming and inspiring

[@Granditamias]

The only one of these 4 movies I actually saw was Ruby Gillman. And like you said, it has its fanbase, of which I am a part of. I am a HUGE Ruby Gillman fan and I want it to actually become a franchise. Yeah, it has a few flaws, but I will defend it with my dying breath. I’m on DreamWorks’ side and I’m just not a fan of Disney animation anymore like I was as a kid. Mostly because their corporation is too big and powerful and I like that Katzenberg founded DreamWorks as a massive slap in the face to Disney.

[@gibsongamez2399]

Here here

[@xdlyon_lyonxd]

DreamWorks definitely ate. Trolls 3 and Puss in boots 2 were great. The only not good one was Teenage Kraken. So you can give props to them. They released only 3 movies this year and still gain quite a audience.

[@I_have_Claws]

Puss in boots wasn’t 2023 though..but cool nonetheless

[@nas0518]

W for DreamWorks Animation. I find it sad for Disney this year, at least Disney did fine with Elemental with it's comeback.

[@RYMAN1321]

Yes It was not only an amazing film but the fact it ended up being successful after being written off as another flop was IMO the comeback story of the summer. That’s promise IMO for more original ideas

[@catst9927]

I think partly the reason why wish failed was not to do with plot, although that too. When I saw the trailer, I really didn't get what it was about. Typically with these princess movies, it's based off of something. So like Snow White and the seven dwares was based off of Snow White and seven dwarfs. I didn't really get the concept of this film from the trailers, so I was disinterested. Now that I've gotten more information about the concept, I think I would have gone and seen it. But I also got that concept from people reviewing it, and giving it a bad review. So definitely not anymore but with that being said, I think the trailer is should have emphasized what the movie was about. Maybe just play the opening number, as that should be the song that explains what the concept is.

[@lapaoc3443]

Velvet and Veneer, the best part of Trolls 3 😔🙏✨

[@ultimatealdo1922]

They were original ideas for wish that didn’t make it to the final film where the star was going to a magical human boy with shape shifting and show King Magnífico and Queen Amaya as a villain couple I think that could’ve worked better in my opinion who knows

[@facusmendoza1061]

I agree with you

[@ryancosmia]

Elemental was the biggest surprise for me this year. I remember watching the movie with low expectations but ended up loving it in the end. The movie single handily carries Disney to victory this year.

[@iiomqfaderz]

elemental released way later in other countries so im not surprised it was so low at first

[@Gameboy0001]

Elemental was an honestly good movie that was simply hurt by the tarnished and garbage Disney/Pixar branding. Word of mouth helped it as opposed to most Disney based movies where they are almost always negative these days.

[@MVimah]

Before gillman came out i remember people talking about it because of the LA Little Mermaid. But they also kind of spoiled the movie with the trailers? I think

[@Kangoso1708]

In the UK, puss in boots didn’t come out till march this year, so I still consider it from this year

[@BEN_DROWNED423]

Back then, I was HYPED, hyped for teenage kraken, I dreamed about it but The whole storyline was changed because it’s a dream, but I got to watch the actual thing in an website, For me though, I like it, And still do

[@toastytoby]

I'd say Dreamworks is maybe not this year but in general, doing better cuz it's playing the long game and building a good but not impecable reputation. They throw out an experimental masterpiece then a mid commercial movie to balance out expectations, so that when they again release something good it feels refreshing. And that's only furthered by Disney's constant mid to mediocre releases.

[@AlexanderOricoli]

So. I actually loved all of these movies, and thought they deserved more attention than what was given to them, but I kind of have Elemental at the top and the other movies kind of tied enjoyment wise, so Disney won in a technicality for me.

[@nicolasrestrepo6177]

Elemental vs Trolls 3: - Elemental was ok, not the greatest Pixar movie, but not bad either - haven’t seen trolls 3, so I don’t have anything to say about it Ruby Gillman vs Wish: Not even close… - I had such a great time watching Ruby Gillman in the theater, an underrated gem imo - I already heard everything I need to hear about wish

[@coachcherokee1488]

Shut up

[@coachcherokee1488]

Shut up

[@WrayneDropAnimates]

I absolutely love dreamworks and disney. All of their past movies have been great and i think people kinda forget what they are capable of and when one bad project comes out they stick their nose up to the new stuff and nit pick every little thing about it. When i went to go see Encanto after Raya the Last dragon came out, there was no one in that theater, but as soon as it hit disney plus, it was the most popular movie on the internet. Its like as soon as people here the word Disney now, they think is going to be bad, which makes no sense to me. I go and see a movie no matter what the last one from the studio was like because both of them have made some pretty amazing stuff. Its just like marvel, just because Spiderman was good, then Mobius is bad, doesn't mean the next movie will be. Personally as an artist, the animation of Wish looks better than Frozen II. Yes, i wish it would have been 2d, maybe like Klaus, but it definitely doesnt look cheap. I know what unrendered models look like and those have been rendered (referring to how someone said they still looked like they were in the modeling process). As for the marketing for all of these, they all kept popping up everywhere i looked. The thing about ruby Gillman that didn't really sell me is that they spoiled the villain in the trailer, when its supposed to be a twist. thats why i try not to watch the trailers anymore, thats also why i like disney's trailers because they dont give much of the plot, just the world of the story. I really look forward to watching Wish and trolls 3 and then inside out 2, kung fu panda 4, and elio because i know they will be great.

[@chantalscholten-mv5ls]

I feel like it’s a tie between Disney and Dreamworks this year because they both had one success and one flop for this year. Now if we look at the box office I say Disney won because for the successes that Disney and Dreamworks had, Elemental made $495,947,021 million dollars while Trolls band together made $163,599,652 million dollars. For the flops that they both had, Ruby Gillman teenage kraken made $4.61 million dollars while WISH made $98.3 million dollars ( read an article about it just now).

[@joelbarraclough6689]

I think the reason why Ruby Gillman bomb is most likely due to Universal because the marketing budgets of the Super Mario Bros movie and Oppenheimer which left DreamWorks with very little to market since DreamWorks is under Universal and to a extent Comcast

[@juvialockser2806]

Elemental was such a cute movie I loved it

[@christophervaldes5062]

When it comes to movies and box office, Elemental kinda carries. Like, yea Disney won this year

[@leo_nouverx]

When you think about it, it's so funny that disney who's known to do amazing songs that stick in your head for decades, made one of the worst disney villain song ever this year, while dreamworks released a far better soundtrack the same month that I actually listen to on repeat since trolls 3 came out (and "watch me work" is such an amazing villain song for the irony of the lyrics while also going so hard instrumentally, while the wish villain song has some terrible lines and is completely forgetable). The fact that the Trolls franchise, of all franchises, took the W on disney this year is hilarious to me

[@shyartistry]

Okay, elemental was actually good, I enjoyed it, and tbh I really enjoyed Trolls 3 But tbh wish was a huge disappointment, Walt Disney would be ashamed, and rightfully. But ruby Gillman was also pretty bad and forgettable So I'd say it's even

[@schmelzwah]

Trolls 3> Wish, Elemental > Gillmore Disney is still slightly higher simply because of the 4 movies released Elemental was the strongest and give the most hope for future projects.

[@colbystearns5238]

Elemental was really good, Ruby Gilman was incredibly mid, I haven't seen Trolls 3 since I was already too old for this franchise by the time the first one came out and Wish is basically Disney's Ruby Gilman.

[@luuduonghy659]

Elemental fail completely even though it is good and make good money, but the rating of the film was somewhat 6-6.5 It isn't a bad rating but nowhere to almost all Disney movies in the past.

[@Aria_Nora]

Yeah, i like your opinion about that 👍

[@I_have_Claws]

@@luuduonghy659 How does that solely relate to the film itself.

[@jaxparrow87]

I watched Trolls 3 as a joke and ended up hyperfixating on the movie xD like i didn’t even know the characters names before i watched it. So yeah i think it was really cool and i’d give it 8/10 overall because there was definitely not enough Velvet and Veneer

[@stephlvrd]

I think that Dreamworks really has an upper hand because even though Disney is “technically” doing better, movies like Wish and Lightyear are really tarnishing their reputation. If dreamworks makes a mediocre movie, people say “well it’s dreamworks.” But when Disney does (and is currently doing) people lose respect for the company, and the fact that Disney+ keeps putting put bad show after bad show, people are starting to DISLIKE disney as a whole.

[@AmaneArtz]

I work in Walmart and they already have a LOT of wish toys in clearance.

[@carleeelders875]

I can't give an opinion on Ruby Gillman and Wish since I haven't seen them (don't intend to), but out of Elemental and Trolls Band Together I would choose Elemental. Yes! It did feel like a Pixar movie. Couldn't agree with you more on that statement. I thought the movie was so deep and the visuals, of course, were absolutely beautiful. Thomas Newman's score was amazing! I loved it. Trolls Band Together was a good movie. It was very entertaining, I liked the plot, and I agree was better than its predessecors. Good for DreamWorks on achieving this. However IMO it doesn't come close to surpassing Elemental.

[@RYMAN1321]

Bingo. I myself loved Elemental, it’s my favorite Disney / Pixar film in years. It’s heart, humor, and themes were so well done. I can’t remember the last time I’ve rewatched an animated film as much as I have that one. Between seeing it twice in the theater and many times on digital (I have the Blu Ray too). I’m also elated that it eventually became successful at the box office, which is especially nice for an original.

[@carleeelders875]

@@RYMAN1321 Yes! Thank you. Someone else who appreciates this film. Luca I felt was the last Pixar movie that was good, and that was about 3 years ago. So imagine how hyped I was to see Pixar releasing a film that actually looked good, and then make it into my Pixar top 10. Saw it 3 times in theaters, Lol😂. You have my respect.

[@zaimatcat145]

it's crazy how much budget Disney spent for their movies compare to Dreamworks

[@carterjames8829]

I'd say Disney. GOTG vol. 3 and Elemental are better than your average Disney content these days. I didn't care for DreamWorks too much this year, especially in comparison to last year.

[@RYMAN1321]

Bingo I loved both of those. Guardians 3 was an emotionally intense yet satisfying end to the series and Elemental was a surprising breath of fresh air (not to mention it eventually found success at the box office being an original). And yes, Dreamworks was better last year. I really liked both Bad Guys and especially Puss in Boots 2. Both had great amount of heart, humor, and well done themes.

[@OokamiNoKishi]

All Trolls 3 has to do is break even and Dreamworks wins, and by a lot. Disney's biggest problem is just how much they are spending to make these movies. As good as Elemental was, it still lost money by a thin margin, but I hear Wish has to make something like around 650 to 800 Million just to break even.

[@I_have_Claws]

Not quite Elemental made back its money…just barely though 😅

[@broppy_for_ever001]

Honestly they all were great movies

[@Lalaloopsies_United]

Cap

[@YoKujo_05]

Not all

[@broppy_for_ever001]

@@YoKujo_05 that's your opinion

[@YoKujo_05]

@@broppy_for_ever001 nah, you gotta be lying saying they were all “great” movies.

[@broppy_for_ever001]

@@YoKujo_05 I am not. If this conversation is gonna start a war than I'm not going to respond anymore I'm busy with life by having another test

[@MrGabeanator]

I actually thought elemental was a really great movie and Pixar’s best love story since wall-e as for wish I’m unfortunately gonna need a 2nd viewing before I can give my full thoughts on the film as I was getting over a cold at the time but for now I can say the animation was beautiful and the soundtrack was great

[@The1one1andonly1]

I love all of the trolls movies but I especially love trolls 3

[@idrawishh]

my favorite thing about trolls was the soundtrack lol

[@misshollis7547]

Personally, I think it's a tie! Yes, Ruby Gillman does have a fanbase, but it also had TERRIBLE advertising, and that brings it back down a little.

[@michaelbrent1536]

I actually Dreamwork Ruby Gilman teenage Kraken I thought, making a Kraken the hero and the mermaid the villain with pretty unique Love and Kaiju fight, They has this Generational Trauma like strange world, and Chosen one syndrome, like DreamWorks rise of the guardians. The villain is pretty cliché and With a preferred Chelsea and Ruby at friends, actual friends instead of enemies Narissa as Villain! This movie would’ve worked in the 2010!

[@marcopikachujibanyan]

At least the visuals of these movies are nice and that’s it

[@EvanMaddison]

Velvet and Veneer carried trolls fr.

[@ming454]

Wish has 106M now and going kinda good, with Christmas and holidays soon it actually can get to 200M

[@HydragonofDeath]

Its not about the money, its about the QUALITY of the product

[@ming454]

@@HydragonofDeath Ok, and?

[@justinperry2520]

Dreamworks redeemed themselves at the box office with Trolls 3 Band Together

[@firecrakerj3312]

I’m actually surprised that the comments here are being mature. While I think Disney probably peaked after Zootopia, stuff like Turning Red, Encanto, Elemental and even Once Upon a Studio shows that Disney may be down but they are definitely not out. Even Wish was decent if just overhated. As for Dreamworks, for every good movie they make, there’s five bad or mid ones, so Dreamworks ain’t that perfect either. Bad Guys was great, Last Wish was brilliant and if Trolls 3 didn’t have Amy Schumer in it, I’d consider it decent. But we all know the true winner here is Sony because they made the Spiderverse movies and those are by definition, a work of art.

[@RandomSpookyToy]

The ONLY reason I’m gonna watch the Trolls movies now is so I’m all caught up for Band Together when it releases on DVD. I never saw the Trolls movies and didn’t really like them from what I saw, mostly because it looked a bit too kid-friendly for my taste. But thanks to Velvet and Veneer from Trolls 3, and a clip from Trolls World Tour, I’m gonna give the Trolls franchise a watch now.

[@ladypool1404]

King Mangifico's song is catchy BUT not as memorable and epic as Be prepared, Hellfire and Poor unfortunate souls. Thoses songs told us a lot about the villains, have beautiful animation and music. It's always fun to sing them, puts me in a good mood. Magnifico's song would be perfect in a Tiktok musical, not Disney's celebration for their 100th year. I saw the movie 3 days ago and remember one lyric; '' What's the prob? '' and... that's it. In short, compare to previous villains song; his is meh 😐

[@beebs4283]

i’m still baffled by early reviews of trolls 3. there are a lot of videos on this very site heavily bashing it, which is odd because it’s so much better than the other two movies. its a little standard, yeah, but it plays with its theme of family really well and the villains are hilarious. i genuinely can’t help but feel like some critics were blinded by how little they liked the first two movies and couldn’t see the marked improvement right in front of them

[@RealDmrau567]

I think Illumination crushed both with the Mario movie.

[@RYMAN1321]

Agreed, not only was it a nice adaption of the source material but it made over a billion dollars. I do hope though Migration ends up okay. Especially since it’s an original.

[@coachcherokee1488]

No it was terrible

[@RealDmrau567]

@@coachcherokee1488 Box Office wise. They got crushed.

[@ArielBBS2779]

I only watched The Little Mermaid remake and Trolls Band Together in the cinema, and even as a big fan of TLM I gotta say Trolls was DEFINITELY a better film for me, had so much fun in the cinema watching it and the songs are masterpieces

[@neogranzong]

I think it's a draw, they are around the same level of quality, DreamWorks inconsistency giving them a slight advantage because they could pull something really good sandwiched around several mediocre films.

[@DYXAnims]

13:47 *GOGILLER MENUS ONE* 😱🗣️🦖🔥

[@ajturner6682]

I say Dreamworks still won. Ever since 2019 Disney hasn't been doing well lately

[@Gaber_edites9103]

Agreed.

[@darriongeorge5137]

Besides Encanto

[@ajturner6682]

@@darriongeorge5137 Besides Encanto 😉

[@Lalaloopsies_United]

@@darriongeorge5137Puss In Boots 2: Let me introduce myself

[@I_have_Claws]

@@Lalaloopsies_United Not even the same year lol 2021 was encanto and 2022 was Puss

[@MesozoicLad]

If this was Disney and Dreamworks 2022, holy god would Dreamworks slaughter.

[@DrasticFox2004]

*I genuinely think Disney won.* Because *WISH* wasn’t that bad, it felt perfect. As a movie, heck no. But as a movie to HONOR Disney? Indeed. And that’s probably why it’s almost 2D, and also why there’s so many references to it’s previous films in this one.

[@nixxdra]

But wouldn’t the best way to honor Disney be to like… actually make a good movie though? Y’know as opposed to smashing a bunch of obnoxious, in your face references to better movies between the worst movie soundtrack Disney has ever had.

[@Yesqueen851]

Disney is ASS 😂😂😂😂

[@DrasticFox2004]

@@Yesqueen851 Hey, stop thinking this company is your grandpa

[@Yesqueen851]

@@DrasticFox2004 Disney is trash get over it

[@DrasticFox2004]

@@Yesqueen851 How bout you trying getting over the fact that *You* have *0* subscribers 💀

[@calebstanley000]

Disney would do a lot better if they hadn’t destroyed their reputation

[@sheilarains5485]

Dreamworks will always hold a special place in my heart, so it makes me really happy to see the it winning this year😁😁

[@coachcherokee1488]

No

[@TheStuckOne-fd2sk]

My first reaction to Wish trailer was like : The main character is like Isabella from Encanto. Hearing the voice of the goat : WTF. I had not been surprise by the reviews.

[@aerkame]

I know that not everyone likes Ruby Gillman, but I'm just so happy to finally see another mermaid/ocean movie. It's been so long and the last time I saw a movie like it was Luca from Pixar. It was predictable yes, but I like the concept and the art style. Overall though, I think Dreamworks is beginning to outdo Disney. Disney seems to have an issue with throwing away their audience now, preferring to listen to ESG scores instead of what works. Everytime I see a new Disney movie coming out, I noticed that no one where I live wants to see it, people line up for other movies, skipping whatever Disney just put out. In short, Dreamworks is building a bigger audience while Disney seems to be losing everyone. Because of this, I'd say Dreamworks is definitely winning big time. Without an audience and a bad reputation, how is a company going to survive?

[@blenderablesmoothie]

I watched the original trolls when I was a young kid, and now I’m a lot older and I watched the third movie this time around and it’s good.

[@Oscar95451]

Disney’s downfall is making me hate Canada and DreamWorks is making me hate canada

[@cliffturbo2146]

So... I take that you hate Canada.

[@notyourkingbro]

As a kid i found the first trolls movie to be one of the greatest works in animated history, to the point where i actually memorised the entire script word by word, lyric by lyric for about 2 years. Then the second movie came around and i felt a disconnect, it was a step down from the first one when it came to the overall outcome but i think branchs story of trying to admit his feelings for poppy, but being constantly stopped by poppy herself whos just trying to prove she can lead her people, bur doesn't realise shes ignoring everyones points until the very end, where branch can finally let his long awaited message be told, is a good narrative the movie implemented. Trolls 3 however, immediately reignited my enticing interest into this franchise, because we got nsync back first and foremost, and now we see a new side of both poppy and branch, poppy has become a more spearheaded and understanding leader compared to the 2 prior movies and has become more flirtatious and caring for branch, again compared to the 2 prior movies, meanwhile branch has become less paranoid and has mellowed out as best as possible while also still being internally haunted by the past which carries the point of Trolls Band Together, the whole story of Branchs past coming back to reality by having to save Floyd by getting the brothers back together. Poppy takes a passenger seat for this movie but we see development for her too with the introduction of viva, which doesn't really serve a significant purpose but she does play a part in producing the perfect family harmony at that point in the movie, Viva was really just to add that extra layer of family to the movie but i don't hate the decision. Music wise, we got a new nsync song which is dope, the vocal talent was off the charts as always and there was no necessarily BAD songs. So all things considered, this movie was subliminally impressive and i would honestly be happy for a 4th movie if they have a great story.

[@DORAisD34D]

Disney did great in 2021 with Encanto, and DreamWorks in 2022 with Puss in Boots the Last Wish

[@Lalaloopsies_United]

Nah bro, Encanto was garbage (fight me)

[@DORAisD34D]

@@Lalaloopsies_United I’m sure there’s people out there who also don’t like Puss in Boots. Doesn’t change the fact that they were both talked about like crazy

[@Lalaloopsies_United]

@@DORAisD34D yeah like 3% of the population didn’t like Puss In Boots 2, also saying that some people hated it isn’t a good argument as 1. It’s only small kids or unborn foetuses agree with that and 2. Saying Puss In Boots 2 is bad because SOME people hate it is like saying being stabbed in the leg is good for your mental health because someone said so out there And sure some people hates Puss In Boots 2 but more people hated Encanto and Encanto is a bloody accident compared to Puss In Boots 2

[@DORAisD34D]

@@Lalaloopsies_United u definitely milked Puss in Boots 2 like crazy

[@I_have_Claws]

@@Lalaloopsies_United People can still have opinions whether or not it’s unpopular or not. Your taken it w a y too serious dude.

[@ghstparalysis]

I LOVED ELEMENTAL AND I ALSO LOVED THE TROLLS MOVIES

[@StarGirl_FNEditz]

ruby gillman and trolls 3 were both great movies 8.9/10 and 8.8/10 but wish and elemental were bad and forgettable movies 0/10 1/10 disney never going to be good but dreamworks is getting better lol thats my opinion with the disney and the best dreamworks 😅

[@Brook_55]

I could relate to elemental which was nice, I loved the concept of elements and the love story was sweet. I also loved the game scen where they did the actual wave cuz it reminded me of watching soccer games with my dad when i was younger. 😂 It wasnt a masterpiece but it was good and simple. I couldn't really stand Wish though, it was just boring.

[@boxytheboxmaster1452]

Despite wish being a massive disappointment I thought Disney won cuz I quite liked elemental while I thought ruby gillman was a disappointment and I didn’t care to watch trolls 3 cuz it looks trash

[@Lalaloopsies_United]

Elemental, The Little Mermaid and Wish aren’t good movies and Dreamwork’s worser movies were decent Also you’re forgetting that Wish came out a similar time to Trolls and Wish LOST to a Trolls movie, if you make a movie about a stupid toy line that only exists for money and you beat a Disney movie, then you’re the winner automatically

[@RYMAN1321]

@@Lalaloopsies_UnitedElemental ended up being successful though

[@johnni-raecalzada2500]

Let’s give both Disney and Dreamworks a silver and gold trophy for the year 2023 and my review of all four movies Elemental: I love this movie so much as a hopeless romantic I even had the opportunity to watch in the theater during a family weekend in Dallas with my parents and two younger sisters though they don’t think my element puns are funny 😍 Ruby Gillman Teenage Kraken: meh and I don’t even know why when I normally love watching movies with mermaids but my youngest sister likes it so I watch it for her sake 😐 Trolls Band Together: although I don’t like how I got my access to watch it this is my favorite one in the three movies we have so far particularly showings the ups and downs of having brothers/sisters I enjoy seeing Branch’s older brothers and the soundtrack is chef’s kiss and Poppy and Branch are adorable 🥰 Wish: I haven’t seen it yet but I will watch as a Disney fan especially since I went to Disneyland for my graduation trip but from what I hear I am afraid of developing opinions in the minority and people wanting me dead as a result

[@IceIsRick]

Have you seen The Boy and the Heron? Also I think Barbenheimer won this year.

[@chillychivy435]

I'm checking it out next week I've heard it's good!

[@IceIsRick]

@@chillychivy435 I will too, hope it doesn’t bomb at the box office, Studio Ghibli is not very good with marketing their films outside of Japan.

[@christmasdespacito2505]

hello, i just watched trolls: band together yesterday dreamworks

[@rudidavidson8422]

I think Adam Sandler did the best with his movie Leo

[@RYMAN1321]

That was surprisingly more enjoyable than I thought it would be. Though I always had a knack for his films

[@HectorusX]

It’s crazy how a freakin’ Trolls movie is better than the last Disney film…

[@imtyler99yearsago90]

That was embarrassing

[@MichealAfton1983]

Didn’t see Trolls or Ruby Gilmin, saw wish and hated it, liked Elemental Ik this isn’t Pixar or Disney but IMO the true winner of 2023 were video game movies Mario movie is my fourth favorite movie of the year Gran Turismo is my 6th favorite And Fnaf is my favorite of the year (Also William Afton is my favorite movie character of the year, so VGM definitely won this year imo)

[@awesomeeli8251]

In my opinion, Trolls Band Together and Ruby Gillman slam Wish because I never really liked Wish but Elemental was better than both Dreamworks movies. So I'll have to say Dreamworks did better in 2023 than Disney but I still liked Elemental.