Dredge vs Recurring Nightmare || North 100 Showdown

[@Sheer_Falacy]

Dredge is a balanced mechanic with a cost and a benefit. The benefit is you get to mill cards and the cost is you have to replace your draws with 4 mana 3/3s or whatever. I'm sure this is what they intended when they designed it.

[@pogowitwiz]

I really appreciate the Piloting Discussions for decks during these videos. That Casual-Competitive vibe of actually trying to discuss what choices to make at a higher level is such a huge reason I think Dredge and reanimation are interesting mechanics.

[@byronnelson9551]

The siege rhino's just dressed as a panglacial wurm for halloweeen.

[@EternalRoxas]

Watching this back is wild, that intro was so fast and professional, no introductions, no points spread, curt intro straight into the gameplay. The evolution of the intro has been beautiful and I adore the modern intros

[@AngelRodriguez-lx2qi]

Ah yes love me a weekly dose Senjamin Wheelger content

[@Sugarman96]

That Recurring Nightmare in G2 was absurd, it's a good reminder just how strong the card can be.

[@durge12]

and if i'm reading the points list, it's zero points!

[@robarnold8248]

Probably because at around 48:45 he didn't pay any mana for it 😅

[@MrMarclax]

@@robarnold8248 woups, but I dont think it would have matered in the result of that game. He basicaly traded a 2-2 for a 1-1

[@estebanrodriguez5409]

Yeah, if it costed 5 instead of 3, and made you exile a creature instead of sacrifice a creature I think it would be more balanced

[@durge12]

@@estebanrodriguez5409 oh old skool magic, you so wacky with yo broke ass spells :D

[@klick37]

It's only Canadian Highlander if it comes from the Victoria region of Canada. Otherwise, it's just sparkling singleton.

[@kevinwestermann1001]

No victory like in Victoria. P:

[@davidsquires1340]

at 48:25 serge didnt spend mana to cast recurring nightmare which led to him casting it twice. not being rude just need to point out cause it helps to notice that stuff!

[@PopeGoliath]

22:18 How did Skyclave Shade attack? Does it have haste from something that I'm not seeing? Edit: There's an Anger in the graveyard.

[@Pintyhet]

I actually really enjoyed hearing Ben giving direction to them offscreen near the end. It makes me happy to see how respectful and competent everyone is in the production process.

[@artemi7]

I dunno why, but I always ABOSOLUTELY ADORE when Paul speaks up during a stream, or Adam is laughing in the studio next door, or you hear Beej saying hi when he comes in, or whatever. It just makes LRR feel so very alive and real, with all these folks just hanging out around the office. Its not as sterile as normal tv media or whatever.

[@Pintyhet]

@@artemi7 It’s especially comforting with all the garbage happening at other production companies to know that LRR is sort of the place we all imagine it to be.

[@marekvincibr5884]

At 11:40 Serge starts playing Lands out of reflex.

[@HoneyJack07]

Would love to see a cut scene of Wheeler and Serge discussing what they kept in their opening hands and why . Love this content so much ❤️

[@notsm]

Take a drink everytime Serge says "Ooh". Fun games, had a blast watching.

[@jeremyblack1929]

I had a dark blast watching too.

[@whipstitchzombie]

these videos are so incredibly informative, format agnostic. i've been playing for a few decades now and never ever really understood how to play dredge but this genuinely helps my wrap my mind around it

[@TheBen69]

Most of my commander decks have turned into decks that I can shuffle my commander in and play canlander with after watching these guys.

[@durge12]

thats interesting, but must suck having to cut cards because your deck is too many points (especially with sol ring being 4)

[@TheBen69]

@@durge12 I was surprised to find out most of my decks don’t even use 10 points. Only one of them fills up the allotted points with Sol Ring, Demonic, and Vampiric tutor. Can thank my local meta for that

[@keab42]

Something that was really nice on the latest Canlander FNPF was very quickly talking about the points in the deck. I know that can be tricky for recorded games because it will change, but it might be nice to have alongside the brief deck descriptions.

[@netherstarultragamerpro]

I mean I have work, but I can’t just not watch this

[@shurtal]

I'm AT work, yet in the same boat.

[@Pakatak2147]

Shoutout to watching at work

[@emmabradley235]

sameeeeee :P

[@Synedrex12]

Ayy found my crew 😎

[@ryanmorfei6325]

I am in the exact same conundrum

[@richiepowell4294]

Please keep these coming I am so excited to watch these every time they come out!

[@timstewart6326]

shoutout to whoever does the card reading /editing stuff for these - always good to watch

[@Karmic_Guide]

Would love to see Wheeler's Grixis Welder featured here

[@markvanvelzen7559]

Didn't he play that in the previous Canadian Highlander video?

[@jamesmccaffrey9042]

@@markvanvelzen7559 That was the last FNPF, which happened to be canlander

[@OckhamsChainsaw1337]

Unlikely, since they recorded all of these at the same time several weeks ago (notice how they're wearing the same clothes and Wheeler is a bit sick in all of them), while the deck was brewed fairly recently. Maybe they're producing another season right now, it might be included there.

[@dav1ncig4ming56]

i got the notification and immediately cleared the next 75 minutes of my schedule

[@XenoQueenSab]

I love this series! I think it would be really cool if at the beginning Serge and Wheeler showed their opening hands and whatever cards they put on the bottom if they took mulligans.

[@politikh]

So, wait, not only do we get a CanLander awesome game, but it will last 1 h 15 mins!?! Uh, yes please!! Thank you so much for such quality content, week after week!

[@wax9798]

My favorite part of this was Serge loosing his mind at the futility of fighting dredge through a board stall

[@williamlovemo8596]

Serge is so adorable when he brings out the little director role at the 1 hour mark

[@bloodblade487]

What amazing games. I'd love to pilot either of these decks, real sweet gameplay. Thank you guys!

[@nebDDa]

Me watching game one: this is insane. I don’t see how serge’s deck can beat wheeler’s deck Me watching game two: this is insane. I don’t see how wheeler’s deck can beat serge’s deck

[@magnetronman298]

Me on every episode of N100 showdown

[@Jalais]

Serge cheats, so that helps

[@chaosmittens]

I know it obviously doesn’t work everytime and you can’t have them in every video, but I do love the little bits where people ask if they should reset for an edit or another take.

[@nicholasfalasco8539]

Great video. Man, that endurance...I even felt bad. Still, very impressed with the pilots of each deck. Suntitan + voice of resurgence + recurring nightmare = literal nightmare for OP. Very cool plays. Thanks for the content, gang.

[@nickpflug9429]

Whoa, what a series!!! Love a great volley, this is awesome, guys!

[@vantharion]

57:10 The line of play I think I would've made here looks like this: Play recurring nightmare. Sac voice of resurgence for any creature. Attack with Sun Titan alone. It returns Voice. It trades with Stinkweed Imp. Post combat play Recurring Nightmare, sac voice to get back sun titan, getting back voice. Then place recurring nightmare a third time (using 9 of his 10 mana). Sac the voice to get back another creature. Ends the board with 7-9 creatures, three of them being elementals. I don't think Surge noticed that he could just easily loop and recur sun titan+voice to scale up number of creatures while also double hitting off sun titan. It didn't end up mattering but I am never surprised at how nuts Recurring Nightmare is.

[@NihilistZealot]

Serge really is just the happiest Skeksis to ever exist.

[@adamkealy2630]

What a match up! Can't wait to see how the recent points changes shake up the format

[@Pyrodactyl]

I love this series, it's my favorite mtg gameplay to watch. Serge and wheeler are good together

[@ChiralWolf]

Great set of games to watch. Those first two were right down to the wire!

[@SyntheticReign]

1:12:20 Absolutely doesn't matter but I mention it because it was clear someone wanted a different take, we got both takes of their outro here!

[@Krigsministern]

Re-watching this in late 2024 and it's so fun seeing singleton dredge with all the unusual includes you don't get in other formats. It's just *chef's kiss*. I mean Haunted Dead side by side Ashen Ghoul are you kidding me? Hell yeah dude

[@zuzug9753]

So good ❤ love seeing dredge in Canadian highlander

[@rinusberntsen8213]

God Serge's deck is like my identity as a magic player. It's 100% the first deck i'd build if there was a highlander circle near me

[@red_consensus]

Favorite series on KZbin

[@cliiwen]

Wood Elves is one of my favourite cards. That sequencing with Sunny T and Recurring Nightmare in G2 is so stunning.

[@avimiller8391]

So in addition to “Both Players are searching their libraries” what else would be on the N100SD bingo cards?

[@ILikePi31415926535]

Whenever a player realizes they didn't include the card they're currently tutoring

[@TheGibber]

Ben says "My Queen" or any variation thereof Serge reveals his hand and consults Ben about what line would be best to take Cheat Step Signed card Finding a land with a fetch, which can't be found with that fetch Attacking with onomatopoeia (caw caw/choo choo)

[@NotAnEvilMastermind]

Maybe finding a land they can't actually grab with the current fetch? Though i recall them getting better with regards to that.

[@janmelantu7490]

Turn 1 “Let’s see how greedy you were” Strip Mine.

[@kenzied1831]

Somehow having the same card in the opener all 3 games

[@alexcapps9290]

I love how win or lose dredge always puts on a show. It's like a 5 way parlay

[@sandmanlives3]

Excellent as always. Thank you.

[@zachpayne3572]

I would love to see a mono color deck or two on the North 100 showdown

[@AuraXars]

this abzan deck looks like an absolute blast to play!

[@juniorthelichch.]

"The hate is good." - Ben Wheeler with the best quote of 2022

[@Jifuryu]

I was surprised by Siege Rhino. Surprised that he remembered to put it into his deck.

[@tobygray9137]

I keep coming back to this episode, please bring back dredge!

[@JimmyJames-om2uw]

Loved the deck match up here

[@thebassistsoldier]

My favorite magic gameplay series!

[@gkiyo]

North 100 showdown is appointment viewing.

[@HighlanderBrasileiroMTG]

Very good games guys good Highlander.

[@benwellman367]

Serge, what do you think of Serra Paragon in your deck? It doesn't get back any of the large items and it's a once only but there is a lot of value that can be added.

[@coltonmason4623]

I'm not great at can lander, but would surge benefit from having a dryad arbor in that list? Gets grabbed by wood elves and can be sacced for recurring nightmare

[@balda7942]

Ok, Ben, good job, you have clearly done youre homework, beautiful Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar pronanciation.

[@MrWarptime]

I love having them retake conversations and then not editing either out.

[@jw5087]

Love the Show! Could you maybe show off some budget decks? Or does everybody just use proxies and budget isn't really a thing?

[@Iamarandomface]

Can lander seems so expensive for new players, is the community chill about proxy's and stuff like that?

[@patcheckert295]

Love this series!

[@durge12]

i obviously don't play the format but my limited knowledge of recurring nightmare through magic's history makes me wonder why survival of the fittest isn't in serge's deck (fauna shaman never getting to untap and use it's survival effect only adds to my wonder). serge's points are/were DT (4) natural order (3) birthing pod (2) jitte (1) so i dunno how you'd find 2 points there for survival beyond swapping out DT for VT (which is only 2) or even imperial seal (1). a points list discussion would've been cool and im very interested to see a north 100 on the upcoming points changes and how decks like these are affected

[@academicace]

...did Serge forget to pay for that recurring nightmare?

[@Minijibbleflab]

It looks like Ben did trade serge for that foil crop rotation

[@danholomy5852]

Nether Shadow does return for its casting cost though?

[@agentwarsaw]

I'm just so glad I could see both ashen ghoul and nether shadow go into the graveyard.

[@klerkusmaximus]

On 48:20 ish Serge is casting a Recurring Nightmare without paying the mana for it, hence let him open with said mana and let him casting Voice of Resurgence and cast Recurring Nightmare again with six mana on board when it is actually 8 total. Or did I miss something with untapping lands?

[@TheMaestroso]

1:09:06 Free Nether Shadow?

[@Sheer_Falacy]

While the card text they showed on screen explicitly says you have to pay the cost for it, the Oracle text has it return for free. It looks like it got changed in Revised, which is weird.

[@michaelvansickles]

When serge cast eldritch evaluation in game one I got so excited because I thought he was going to get endurance

[@wax9798]

I don’t think he realized that EE can get lower cmc targets, it’s the odd one out of pod effects

[@DeSaxofoonVanPeter]

If Stinkweed Imp deals combat damage to a creature, triggering its ability, and then that creature's controller responds by giving it protection from black; it still gets destroyed, yes?

[@odium_chlorite]

Yes, that ability doesn't target and protection ironically doesn't protect against destroy effects. If you however give it protection before the damage the imp doesn't deal damage to it so the ability doesn't trigger.

[@ShinerCCC]

I was so hype when Wheeler loving called my creation his favourite annoying deck. We did it baybee!! Wheeler forgot to gain 2 life from Brownscale in game 3. Too bad his digging was doomed anyway without Riftstone Portal, to tap Bazaar for mana and be able to start playing. Still a good poster child game for dredge.

[@RandoMattz]

was wondering why Serge didn't Eldritch on the Cobra for Endurance near the end of g1, then i remembered EE is cmc +2 and Endurance is only 3 mana -.-

[@iluvatardis8804]

Does Serge know that Eldritch Evolution gets exiled when cast? I think I've seen him put in in the graveyard every time he's cast it.

[@lavashot449]

Could Serge have not just looped Voice of Resurgence? The more he makes the bigger swings he has? If he spent his mana looping VoR, he'd have 4 7/7's and a VoR in play ready to make a 7/7

[@mithrane]

Sincere Suggestion : Put Anafenza, the Foremost into any Abzan deck. SO many of these high-power decks seem to manipulate the graveyard and she just poops on their day.

[@EionBlue]

Speaking as someone who often forgets to gain life off of Courser, Serge sure had a lot of kissed Courser triggers.

[@erix33]

I hope Serge keeps playing the same deck a few more times in a row. I think that is a pretty fun recurring joke.

[@colinjones5379]

Lovely games!

[@BlackJackJulian]

"this [Dredge] doesn't feel like magic": what it looks like, (and probably feels like), is modern Yu-Gi-Oh, where the graveyard is just another weird deck, and things are constantly going in and out from all other zones

[@blackmagetypem]

Algorithm engage! Love listening to these while playing arena

[@castraatmoko5444]

wait i just realised, does Wheeler and Serge always use the same shirt and/or jacket in every north 100 showdown?

[@MartianKyo]

Game 2 was tense!

[@devonhutchison3485]

I wouldve loved seeing your “hi I’m welder” deck

[@segaahomies]

how does the dredge deck win if it activates hermit druid?

[@ShinerCCC]

probably mills Narcomoeba in the process and plays 1 basic land so Path to Exile and Assassin's Trophy and Field of Ruin don't cause a huge minus. You want brakes in case a control deck has a counterspell ready, you win the game if you mill half your deck anyway. You play one of the two 1mana Unearth creatures, Dregscape Zombie costs B and Fatestitcher costs U. Play the land Hermit Druid got you to summon Bloodghast. Every other thing that can summon itself from the GY easily costs 2 or more mana, Haunted Dead is the best option. You sacrifice Hermit Druid + two more creatures to flashback Dread Return targeting Lotleth Giant, which hopefully kills them. For killing them through Glacial Chasm/Worship/Solitary Confinement there's a more complex line that wins off flashing back SevRec to return Crucible/Ramunap Excavator + Fastbond, to loop Radiant Fountain and Wasteland for infinite mana to kill them with Cut//Ribbons. If they have Platinum Angel/Empyrion then you'd better be playing Ancient Grudge.

[@racg174]

glad we get slightly more canlander than last time

[@crawdaddy1234]

I’m not sure if I’m happy or not that this match shows how good Darkblast is. I have the card in, like, three decks.

[@durge12]

theres an older FNPF canlander league episode where alex absolutely ruins wheeler's day with darkblast. sure does seem like a good card

[@gustav204]

The joke has probably already been done but: north 100 snow down?

[@ShawnPoulsen]

It's humbling that Wheeler is a better Magic player with a concussion than I am at my best.

[@Drecon84]

Huh. I've read Reanimate a million times and never realized it can target an opponent's graveyard.

[@SuperBigChops]

I guess you guys are making up for the relatively shorter episode last time.

[@dylanthomas2393]

I gotta hand it to Serge on game 2 I had him counted out but he stuck to it and had a nice victory there.

[@c0uchb0yJ]

Our Shriekmaw, comrade

[@set-theory]

Can't call a deck Abzan if it doesn't have a Siege Rhino, otherwise it's just necra

[@set-theory]

Oh he actually has a Siege Rhino! All is right in the world

[@lazotep__6212]

Dregde, Dredge, Dredge, Dredge, Dredge!!!!

[@johnmarcellino5034]

FEED ME MORE OF THIS CONTENT

[@jorbin0]

From 48:22 onwards I'm pretty sure serge jus t starts harsh cheating (not paying mana for reacuring nightmare)

[@syntheticuh]

Wheeler's deck looks absolutely miserable to play against and I mean that as a huge compliment.

[@JoshTheHod]

whoever is in charge of editing these really dropped the ball on this video

[@ChaosChainsaw]

Going back to look at this now, it's so jarring when they didn't say "a Canadian highlander throw-down"

[@Gaiametris]

Busted vs busted? Let's go

[@penguinpioneer3835]

Why does Serge not like to play free lands