Mission Evolution | Deep Rock Galactic

[@eadthryth8194]

I remember the time when salvage missions used the advanced tech of bluetooth fuel transfer.

[@vizthex]

same.

[@boofe7206]

I'm pretty sure the cable is just to keep the dwarves sane - you can disconnect the pod and it's still fine. Dwarves do not believe in Bluetooth.

[@questionablelifechoices7501]

Lol I remember that stuff. Got into the game just a few months before that was changed.

[@Crimnox_Cinder]

It was before update 34? I think 34 added dorreta and refinery mission. But with the pipe mechanic from refinery they "refined" the salvage op refuel sequence with a slimmed down version of it. The days of Bluetooth fuel transfer were...strange, but it never decreased the amount of fun we had.

[@MrCokewithice]

I didnt even question it at the time, it was only when they added building the connection to refuel the pod that I understood what was happening in the mission xD

[@sniss]

fantastic as always :)

[@explorianguy]

oh yo wtf !!

[@Cryospec]

Hol up you can donate in comments!?

[@romanlinnik7441]

The man himself

[@liambutler2239]

Sniss my beloved

[@ThatNerdGuy0]

nice

[@billul1]

7:45 interesting that Helium3 seems to hint that they were going for a more "realistic" theme to the game at this point of development. Helium 3 is a real life element that is an isotope to (guess what) helium that theorized as potential nuclear fuel source that creates little radiation, and is often featured in scifi as spaceship fuel. Of course in real life it doesn't look like grey metalic rocks so that's why I say "theme", the devs were planning to use real life elements and minerals as stuff for you to mine but at some point decides to use wholly fictional minerals instead, like the good ol' morkite.

[@RealJ3sus-Joseph]

Neeeeeeeeerrrrrdd

[@metzillixochitl]

Morkite found!

[@vizthex]

i too enjoy the fictional element of Gold.

[@p1nball729]

Smart stout tastes great, doesn't it? But yeah that is pretty interesting.

[@kajmak64bit76]

@@RealJ3sus-Joseph found the Leaf Lover Lmao

[@seapickles5762]

46:30 the J.E.B. most likely stands for “Jens Emil Bil” as seen in the year 3 art showcase segment (42:58).

[@explorianguy]

that could be the case, the few devs that I asked just told me it was a placeholder, I was 90% sure the entire time that it's an inside joke

[@B_Skizzle]

Speaking of the tutorial, am I the only one who kinda wishes the Shallow Grotto would be expanded into a full biome? I really like the color scheme. Also, is there still some kind of link between Point Extraction and random dreadnoughts? I’ve seen about a dozen of them, and I think all but one were in PE missions. EDIT: For anyone seeing this comment now, I can confirm through extensive personal testing (and consulting the wiki) that Point Extraction has its own spawn logic for dreads. However, they can only spawn if you’re playing on Haz 3 or below. I guess the devs thought they'd be too punishing on 4/5.

[@explorianguy]

perhaps that needs investigating, I recall coming across random dreads multiple times in Refinery too since it shares the same cave type

[@stavbearer9878]

Maybe it's just since waiting around gets so many more swarms in PE? The swarms you get, the more times that dice roll for it happens.

[@joltganda]

It’s just a super rare random spawn, I’ve come across a dread in a mining expedition recently.

[@mage4242]

@DRG Historian I was running some greenbeard friends through their 1st few missions, and the 1st refinery mission we did, back to back random Dreads. I also seem to get them more in PE as well

[@vizthex]

a creature evolution video would be pog. hell, i'd watch a evolution videos going over every part of the game lol

[@philipgelderblom6878]

Remember when grunts were called warriors.

[@vizthex]

@@philipgelderblom6878 i still call them that every so often.

[@norahsnewgroove]

an hour?!?! you spoil us.

[@vexlegend313]

:)

[@explorianguy]

my fellow Americans, epilepsy warning at 44:03-44:22 and 44:39-44:51 might be a bit intense too (im not from the us) updated: starting from Season 2 BET-C and Korlok have a 5% spawn chance, the new robot Nemesis has a 7% spawn chance

[@leonader9465]

I had to read this in Keemstar's voice.

[@krustin]

Where are you from? you have a beautiful accent sir

[@BradenBlorp]

@@krustin he sounds like he's from eastern Europe but I'm not sure.

[@gustavyes529]

america

[@epin_gamer4209]

dont dox yourself like that

[@bitzthe8bit668]

I've asked this before, and I'll say it again. Mission. Variations. Search & Extract could be an alternative version of Mining Expedition, without taking up an entirely new mission slot. Purely the only difference would probably be cave gen, or for a newer mission like Escort Duty, instead of refueling, you have to replace Doretta's treads. I swear to Karl I'm onto something here.

[@randomwowjunkie]

I want an escort variation where the target is something other than a heartstone as i find that event to be the most repetitive part of the entire game

[@alarmy5211]

@@randomwowjunkie i know this is a year old, but that would really fit for escort. i mean, mission control says “ *this time* you’re after the heartstone” right? it makes sense that the drilldozer would have other high value things to collect

[@noahthecrazy1632]

@@randomwowjunkiewell your in luck, season 5 has added new stuff to the hearthstone boss fight.

[@badpiggiesfan6918]

This video was AMAZING. cant wait to hear if you end up making that industrial sabotage evolution vid.

[@explorianguy]

its evolved to Rival Tech Evolution

[@badpiggiesfan6918]

👀

[@slimeinabox]

The only thing that I would change about this game is secondary mission. Instead of collecting a set minimum amount of a thing with no bonus for extra, you have a thing to collect and you get an increasing reward per thing collected, with no limit.

[@theplague5803]

Especially with disteriom secondary or fester flea secondary because you get so much disteriom and it fells like i accidentally kill fleas more often than not but saying that i am a lok engineer so i cant say much

[@jorijndg]

You do get extra XP for overtime, like depositing extra morkite or dystrum or killing more flees. It's usually very little, but you can tell the difference with dark morkite on a long morkite mission. My main gripe is that it doesn't show extra progress in the UI. It would be nice to see if I killed 13/10 fester flees, or collected 350/200 morkite.

[@jorijndg]

Just did a 400 morkite mission with dark morkite, took almost an hour but did give over 20k XP. No idea how much morkite we deposited; my guess is around 800.

[@atsushinakagima4331]

Wait. “search & extract”.. …isn’t it like new type of mission they added recently?

[@lennyface5314]

Godlike soundtrack selection. Never thought I'd hear Advance Wars Dual Strike main menu in a DRG video.

[@muffincatgames]

Fuck man, I really hope some day we get those colours back on Escort, even if it's as a mod, they are so damn pretty

[@greenbean4537]

agreed

[@rustico0]

42:01 So that’s where they got the idea for the Drillevator’s dense rock phases. Amazing to see how many ideas they keep recycling between updates! Also, when “Deep Scan Evolution”?

[@vizthex]

just realized the foreshadowing at 0:17 with Industrial Sabotage being greyed out.

[@Elijah668]

Ive been making a dumb little dnd spacehulk abomination for a drg type game. just with some 5e rules and some timers for flavor, but i hadn't a clue what to do for their abilities, with your video ive been slowly but surely breaking down each move into more interesting things for the boss monsters. gj man.

[@ARPGAMER19]

12:08 “This is also when the egg secondary objective gets removed once and for all.” that didn’t age well

[@explorianguy]

it wasn't the same egg secondary, it was the egg hunt's primary objective as a secondary that's gone forever

[@RedStar441]

I remember when I first picked up Deep Rock just before the full release. The game had such a great charm back then, and its come such a long way. I love this game, and I look back on those days fondly.

[@elsuertes1748]

49:58 I never tought hearing Mission control with the Dwarfs Voice would be so cursed

[@aspen3531]

it would seem that part of the video has become inexplicably dated now that morkite geodes are around

[@explorianguy]

what part of this video is dated?

[@benismann]

i bought and started playing drg in march 2018, those videos are such a dive into memory

[@sniss]

LETS GOOOO

[@tacoman2147]

ayo? love your vids, bro.

[@Bee_Tea_Sea]

Oh hey, I know that guy!

[@ShockyHazard]

I know I say this every time but I really love your editing!

[@corvax8644]

I love how hilariously jank the early versions of doretta were

[@Papa_Tin]

You make great content, I was impressed with how deep you dove into the topics at hand!

[@rainy729]

Once again great work, Historian. Was a lovely (and fun!) trip into the past. Also, appreciate the nostalgic Serious Sam music :)

[@Kwaark]

that was very cool to see all the evolutions ! thx for the awesome vid!

[@vizthex]

every time i re-watch this video, the editing at the part where you explain how missions generate gets me. it's so damn clean.

[@TheBadger]

If they'd only bring back the grinder from (31:06), it looks so dope

[@ojhat]

I still really miss the old cave generations that gave fortune to the search & extract mission type. It frequently featured the cave as ginormously sprawling like the example shown; open stretches of multi-layered caves, pillars, plateaus, twisting tunnels, mushroomed faux cave floor, no central cave, entirely non-linear. While yes, Egg hunt has since replaced it, I still liked Search & Extract more, and think they could have balanced it closer to a mix of Mining Mission & Point Extract with chunks to find; Instead of knowing exactly where the eggs where, you really did have to search and explore for all that morkite hidden away in walls.

[@girf4233]

this is not the hour long video about "A Rat's life: the Cat Conspiracy" I was hoping for. Well it will have to do.

[@vizthex]

aw man, i'm sad they didn't use conveyors (though i understand why) always loved conveyor belts, and having one in DRG would be cool af

[@chicken_matrix8878]

I know this video is 5 months old but I just want to say I got two of those weird cubes in one day

[@tacoman2147]

oh man, this is the perfect start to a three day weekend

[@aydinmakesthings]

As a more recent fan (Joined in early 2023) I find it so interesting to see how different this game use to be.

[@plasmabasher]

It’s amazing to see how this game made such subtle variations in builds over its YEARS of development, the entire time I was watching this video I was thinking “oh this is the part where they stopped changing [this]” only to hear “then in update [number] they changed [this]” and I have to double take. DRG really has aged well, it deserves its rising popularity after all the time and love its developers have put in. Also, it’d be amazing if there was a Caretaker-esque fight called ‘Queen Hunt’ where you have to actually “hunt down” a constantly moving giant enemy, and follow the visible aftermath of its rampage. Dead dwarves who failed to kill it, broken MULEs, and even Drop Pods busted open after their occupants tried to escape. It’d really change the tone of “We’re badass dwarves who can kill anything!” to “Oh god, whatever the hell this thing is is something I do *not* want to see”. You never find the Queen, but maybe it could be a chapter-based system like Deep Dives where you do all the search and rescue stuff, but the players are in a darker environment, everything feels unnatural, and there’s evidence of something *big* being nearby. That, or it’s an advanced mission based on the Haunted Cave modifier, where something you’re incapable of fighting is chasing you and you have to rush through the mission before it kills you.

[@cardnal44]

49:21 seems like an early rockpox

[@ErikKing-k7o]

2:30 whats crazy is saw someone got the name unending head for a deep dive

[@t_t5222]

God that music intro is so top quality broooooooooo

[@prestonezzell9250]

I love Doretta even more knowing the glowup she had, but still love her silly early phase

[@TheTretex]

Season 1 made it so escort missions could vary more in length I believe, thus the rooms could be shorter distance from each other and you could reach the ommaran faster.

[@killsode4760]

I know that you can get either one refuel for length two, or two refuels for length 3

[@jogomango2387]

Original concept for the amoran look like jawbreakers

[@Jellydoughnuthole]

19:41 bro gave me flashbacks to advance wars dude it took me a moment to recognize that song

[@profitprophet3184]

The old ommoran heartstone looks like a giant jawbreaker candy, really like the wallpapers as well!

[@andreynordron1302]

Amazing video. Thank you for your work! I played this game for a few years and missed all of developing progress.

[@Shonic567]

You did a great job on this video! I don’t know what it is but i enjoy learning and seeing these kinds of evolutions, plus seeing weird obscure stuff. Unrelated but the tutorial biome has always fascinated me, i wish we could play in it

[@etherealrat1818]

Excellent video, Morbius Historian

[@MrPain522]

Really enjoy the FTL music in the background

[@flashbackfrank8781]

But fr though that mini-molly surrounded by cryomines was a anxiety shot if there ever was one. Only worse thing would be seeing 3 nemesis-s (....nemesi?) Next to a cave full of leeches.

[@thescoutpanda]

oh nice thank you, i'm but a relative newcomer so it's nice being able to catch up on history

[@iamthecheesegod]

your closing words were enough to convince me to subscribe

[@vizthex]

should've added an info card with the six bits video at 1:02:36 but great video overall though - love these evolution ones, and can't wait for more.

[@r3alf3ar]

Didnt skip and wouldnt have another hour. Thx for that awesome views of a top fav game! RnS!

[@jackie_lad]

I think a good idea for the Search and Extract thing could be a warning modifier that only applies to Mining Expedition. This could be the first in a line of mission-exclusive warnings.

[@Xirce]

Ok I don't know if I'm misremembering, but I remember that for the Salvage Operation mission, there was no refueling section, just repairing the mini-mules and uplinking. Am I misremembering or was this actually a thing?

[@ICountFrom0]

Seeing that mounted turret walker, I kind of want the version of escort where you sit in a mounted turret with unlimited ammo and you have to fight off waves as Doretta refuels herself.

[@ultmateragnarok8376]

Oh, yeah the normal Dreadnaught does that. If only one player is up (whether that's just one player, a player with Bosco, or only one person is alive and everyone else is down) it will just stop and roar. Only in that situation, though, and I believe iron will counts as someone being up. The combination of its powerful attacks, decent mobility and speed, extreme aggressiveness and heavy armor make it still the most terrifying of the three options. Hiveguards are slow and manageable, if hellish to your ammo supply; and Twins aren't even full dreadnoughts - I'd describe them as 'pre-dreadnought' seeing as they have regressed physically in order to form into two creatures. The classic continues to be the best. This was _an hour?_ I honestly didn't notice until you pointed out that it was expected people would skip stuff. Amazing work, to make something so engaging like that!

[@vizthex]

love that mission icon flowchart, looks noice.

[@qwaykes8840]

imo, i like the older fuel can, the folding handles and horizontal progress bar looks alot better than the AA battery we have right now

[@borpothewizard]

All the missions came from 1 common ancestor: That gem icon up there

[@vizthex]

12:47 - you mean the eggsploit? i'm not sorry.

[@nicholasgreen4921]

6:55 that voice sounded so weird, I literally jumped out of my chair god damn

[@shadowxps]

This rundown of the development of missions really highlights for me how anemic and quaint mining missions now feel. Usually just a linear dive with a fairly straightforward but boring objective. There’s no variation or climax to a mining missions pacing. Compare that to something like salvage operation. I think they could use a sprucing up. I’m not sure how you make mining more exciting so maybe the cave layout could be pushed so navigation is the challenge.

[@minkwandering3561]

COOL IDEA. LOVE THE VIDS. THNX FOR MAKING

[@haminatorivan]

an hour video? you spoil us DRG history man

[@tonycallme3667]

ngl, mega cave sounds hella cool to see, like giant cave.

[@vizthex]

they could bring back Search & Extract in a future season.

[@KatznDogz56]

Honestly I would love to see the super colorful omeran make a return as a super rare azure/biozone exclusive variation

[@Mikalent]

Honestly, I would like a mission type like extermination, a mission where you get only the Nitra that was created when the cave was generated, and the players having to balance their Nitra supply with the amount of time, and enemies, they contend with while in the cave. As for how you would stop said mission from becoming a one stop shop for XP grinders, introduce an XP scaling system and XP cap for the mission, as well as having the mission be more gold and crafting materials poor. Another idea would be a variation of the above extermination mission, but more for credits than XP. The idea would be similar to on-site refining and the early gas extraction of escort duty. The idea would be for 5 gas wells to spawn in a large chamber, players call down gas collectors that pump their individual well into a balloon, before launching said balloon after a certain amount of gas is collected. Each refinery gets 10 balloons before the well is tapped, HOWEVER the refinery attract bugs, and can be attacked and destroyed. A destroyed refinery can not be repaired or rebuilt, nor a new one called down, while a damaged refinery can be repaired. Another mechanic that could be added would be the passive damage that occurs to the refinery while working, similar to the rock crackers, just on a slower scale. Also just to add more player agency, the idea that each refinery can be started and run at different times. So players can choose to defend one refinery at a time, ensuring they get maximum credits, or run all 5 refineries and risk losing one or more.

[@alexruska9390]

2020 July added the first iteration of the Ommorian Heartstone.

[@CrashHeadroom]

7:30 I know they used Squat as a reference for design, there is even pictures ofit in their concept art ....but that is a damned lasgun if ever I saw one! lol

[@nickr8662]

Wait, doretta’s head appears next to the gun terminal?? Holy shit!

[@theplague5803]

Oh i hope a blue heart stone comes out for Halloween because it looks so pretty in blue

[@theplague5803]

Mmmmm jawbreaker heart stone

[@joshuaanderson7511]

I clicked on this thinking it was 10 minutes, and 5 seconds.... Strapped in now i guess

[@explorianguy]

I don't know why but the thought of that realization is hilarious to me

[@dybo3793]

I watched until the end without skipping, and I can say that it was absolutely worth it. Great video!

[@MihaiAkexandru]

I remember one time when I was playing this game in a biome there were 2 mining expedition mission

[@Seiba15]

Amazing video. Thank you for your work!

[@djonezzz6853]

Amazing video, very well don!

[@thesnipingamerdoesmc5728]

This was honestly a great video to just have in a small pop up while I was playing other games. Learned a lot about the game's history and I sincerely appreciate the effort put into this video. 10/10 :)

[@northropi2027]

46:30 The Drilldozer's early name of J.E.B. may have to do with the name Jens Emil Bil on the side of that early showcase model showed earlier, maybe it's a reference to a dev?

[@HexagonThatReallyLikesVinegar]

I really hope they add more dreadnoughts with season 3, like a infected mold dreadnaught or something.

[@vonheer7418]

@13:04 A fellow man of discerning mission type taste. Point Extraction ftw.

[@vonheer7418]

Also loved recognizing the Advance Wars Dual Strike music. Good ost.

[@synka5922]

Yeah back in update 6 you'd sometimes even get *two* dreads on the same mission

[@vizthex]

maybe they can bring back Search & Extract as part of a future season, where you have to find a season-specific objective instead of morkite. Would be neat to at least have the name back.

[@NickMaovich]

that ending lmao sick video mate!

[@vizthex]

i kinda prefer salvage requiring you to fix up the drop pod. Feels more logical, especially since you only ever see Mini Mules here, whereas the drop pod is in every mission. but on the other hand, Mini Mules are cute and give you free gold & nitra.

[@synka5922]

I remember those static missions... back in closed beta

[@geoshark12]

I had a really weird start in drg because the tutorial mission had the scout not the gunner I remember using the emps and the shot gun

[@the_dead_knight3]

I actually rather liked the first moe for the canisters, they looked like cool futuristic launchers of some kind

[@AdroSlice]

Weirdl, enough, I never really noticed the numbering on the refinery pipelines.

[@MrMichealHouse]

We definitely need more missions, or a least more variations in current ones. I only do escort if I absolutely have to because it takes so fucking long, and getting gas is just a chore. I love mining expedition because it's just that, a expedition. The team is constantly moving and diving deeper and deeper, it feel like an actual adventure. We need more missions that are building around exploration and moving, not just point defense around doretta or the pumpheads.

[@thehound8244]

this is g0nna be good imma get some food and watch this

[@Paronak]

Awesome video! JUST awesome. so in depth

[@DarthBanus]

Excellent video as always bro

[@Smartcoughdrop]

What a profound quote to end the video on

[@Badbadgerboy]

4:16 I can actually tell the difference that is so sad

[@Tay1Qr]

wait, the point extraction sentries don't have infinite ammo?

[@badpiggiesfan6918]

guess not? no one really sticks around long enough for the ammo to be a problem.

[@joltganda]

I learned that the hard way early on.

[@changtiger4372]

learned that in my first haz5 mission it was a long and tough fight for a greenbeard

[@danteinpuro319]

Not gonna lie I kinda like the blue look on the hive guard

[@crowan1400]

nice vid bro, love your content, keep it up!