Driving through Croydon | 1980s Croydon | London Streets | 1980s Traffic | TN-SL-035-013

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[@johnstilljohn3181]

This looks to be around 1985 - 88 period. So much has changed, and yet so much is familiar...

[@djpeekay25]

Says 1988 in the description

[@richardwallace5226]

It looks so peaceful and quiet as it used to be.

[@Dirkspage]

@@richardwallace5226 it wasn't really that peaceful we moved out of Croydon in 1986 because of a stabbing near our house the knife was found in our front garden bush I moved backed to Croydon in 2006 and it's still the same shit hole as it was back then only thing is we have internet and we can see anything that happens in Croydon via the world wide web

[@richardwallace5226]

@@Dirkspage Open eyes Your talking about 1 stabbing that was in your rd. The fact is knife crime back in 80/90s was a rare occurrence compared to the knife crime of today in certain parts of London. Since open borders in early 2000s it became a regular thing. I live just out side of Croydon and there is always some one being stabbed. It's a part of life hearing about it now. LONDON was one of the safest if not the safest cities in the world when i was growing up in London. generally speaking. It's silly to compare it.

[@Theoriginalbigbrillo]

@@Dirkspage Carn’t believe you moved back to be honest, lived there in 86 also left in 89 to go back home to Liverpool 👍👍

[@TheGlassman14]

Actual shops selling actual things unlike today where its all chicken shops, charity shops and bet shops.

[@Jay-we2ek]

Same in most places. Nealry every high Street i see is just like you said, takeaway shops and betting shop not much else.

[@KZenink]

What’s wrong with chicken shops

[@chucky2316]

@@KZenink whats right with them.

[@car4367]

@@chucky2316 the chicken.

[@chucky2316]

@@car4367 nasty chicken

[@Rio-ol7dd]

This video is so weird. So nostalgic but I wasn’t even born yet. I cant explain it. Alot has changed I guess.

[@DanielleKingdjdinosaur]

yes and not for the better.

[@mbingham10]

Lovely to see the the British population enjoying there capitol with uncrowded roads and pavements and most prevalent was the fact it was safe to walk the streets, we have gone backwards in personal safety on our streets wonder why that this.

[@jackiedelvalle]

Their. Capital. Presuming English isn't your first language, so errors are understandable. 👍🏾

[@mbingham10]

@@jackiedelvalle Correct I'm Greek Cypriot been here 9 years.

[@lenniet]

@mbigham10 I think you have an idea of "why this is". Please enlighten us to your theory.

[@mbingham10]

@@lenniet Poor education and immigration also lack of respect for others and poor parenting the list is endless in this crazy mixed up world

[@explorewithgeoff]

Back then Croydon was not part of London, it was part of Surrey, so not in the capital. Some years ago they changed it. It was part of the Greater London Council (GLC) in the 80's and often referred to as Outer London, but it was not officially part of London until the change.

[@ximfo4883]

It's great seeing how a place you've went to since you were born before you were born

[@vincezaaa]

Used to be a pleasant environment now all that is left of those days is the Left over neo-classical Croydon airport (mentioned in some of the golden age films)

[@anurakeppe9853]

I miss lovely Croydon. Used to be my local shopping centre. Used to take 64 bus from selsdon to Croydon. Upstairs u can smoke them days

[@explorewithgeoff]

64? Do you not mean 54? I don't remember a 64. Yea you could smoke, which was terrible and I'm so glad that finally banned it.

[@G-Man78]

Looked like a town then.

[@AD-kv9kj]

Oh ffs. It looked like sh*t then and it looks like slightly different sh*t now, grandad...

[@G-Man78]

@@AD-kv9kj so... u just wanna argue for arguing sake. Who said anything about it looking sh*t ? smfh. clown troll

[@peterevans3504]

Growing up on the 80s I remember it was alot cleaner in them days people actually sat on there front door with neibours and actually talked with a cup of tea.

[@whitedovepink]

I remember that too Peter,. We all 'seemed' to be more appreciative of one another. We loved our neighbours on both side and looked out for one another even financially at times until they could pay back. Built on trust and honesty. Mum still does that with her neighbour. :)

[@whitedovepink]

@Bingus Khan that aspect of it doesn't bother me much just the closure of all the grand shops like Allders, C&A, Debenhams and others has now changed the place into a ghost town. The magic there is gone, Bingus khan.

[@jalcones6574]

They still do in the Black Country, think we’re the only old schoolers left 😂👍🏻

[@moshodi100]

@@whitedovepink Too right. Goodness knows what will be left after the pandemic has run its course. High street shopping used to be pleasant and a day out. Not anymore.

[@mullahgaming9446]

well instead of drinking tea we now have starbucks and Iphones to hold so times have changed

[@baddoisfit5910]

Wow this is awesome from Croydon

[@omarahmad7890]

Before Croydon council destroyed it and ran up debts

[@Cinia18]

Why is this being recommended to me 6 years later lol

[@chucky2316]

Cause you came to see me baby

[@alexanderevans7426]

Not a mobile phone in sight,, . People looking where they are going. Damn, I can't believe how silly we looked in those styles. 🤪😂

[@mehran5979]

When Croydon used to be Croydon

[@CockneyRebel1979]

Aww, I don't half miss my Saturday afternoons over Croydon. I wish I still lived in London. 🙁

[@explorewithgeoff]

Frustratingly Croydon IS now in London, whereas when I was living there it was officially in Surrey. Why they had to change it, I don't know. Croydon has never been anything like true London though. I think now it's actually a lot worse, from all I've heard.

[@billrankin]

Was a nice place back then, look at it now ??? has this country improved or gone backwards

[@andypeterson3070]

I don't know about backwards or forwards but it's definately got worse.

[@lost_poet_]

@@andypeterson3070 agree. Way too many white racists these days

[@redd605]

The amount of flats there are building now is unbelievable and shops close down and big business moving away

[@gracenicholass6273]

Had more going on then. Less closed shops!

[@alexandertebbiche6061]

I wish Croydon High Street was like this now if it was I'd definitely go there and shop, bank, eat and drink alot more often

[@shoo99ful]

Why do I feel so nostalgic yet I’m only 20 years old who’s lived here all my life lol

[@carolinetaylor8568]

was hoping to see the High street when you could drive down it

[@hisista3007]

WOAHHHH- ITS SO DIFFERENT HERE NOW

[@tiekumark]

Reading the comments is depressing but not supprising. Depressing because I'm consistently seeing people in this country vote against their own interests in some misplaced belief as where their nations problems lay, but. Not surprising because this is how oligarchical capitalist governments want their populations to think. It would make far more sense if you blamed the internet or automation for Croydon's demise, rather than the last immigrants. Because although still rather a simplistic analysis of the problem, the internet and automation have far more blame to be shared regarding the deterioration of croydon's high streets than Immigrants do. I grew up in Croydon. Park hill in the 80s went to school in Caterham a little further out. My dad worked as an accountant for Hill Samuel in the famous 50 pence tower. He is one fo the "Foreigners" so many of you in here seem to complain about. I had what could be called an Idyllic childhood. Croydon was back then a clean, safe and enjoyable environment to grow up in. I loved growing up there and as a child of African immigrants we did face isolated incidents of racism but nothing to effected our lives to any large degree. One thing I can agree with people in this thread is that over the recent decades croydon has deteriorated rapidly. What I don't agree with are the causes i'm reading regarding this deterioration. It's common to hear the immigration complaint but I'm not prepared to debate for or against immigration, because it is absolutely a separate issue if you understand the factors of the deterioration of Croydon and towns like it the world over. Also immigration is government policy for nations who have inverse birthrate even if they pay lip service to the voter base by saying they will "Clap down on immigrations" a modern capitalist economy as they are currently set out cannot ruction adequately without a steady stream of immigration. the graphs off GDP and Imigration do have correlation. Anyway I digress. I moved away from croydon to go to university in 2001 and settled in Highbury but every time I went back to croydon to visit my parents I saw more deterioration, more poverty, disappearing jobs.. every time I'd see a new shop closed that had been there for 40 years, only to be replaced by a cash converters, a 1 pound shop or just to become an empty boarded up former store front. This my people, is late stage Oligarchical Capitalism. Blue collar jobs disappearing first, slowly white collar jobs disappearing, automation, call centres and off shore out sourcing to populations eager to do the same jobs at lower wages disenfranchised youth who see dystopian future rather than opportunities and so on and so on. this is happening the world over in towns of heavy immigration and towns of absolute homogeny. I see this in town in Japan where there are no foreigners and in town in America that are fully of European decent where there are generations strung out on meth and no jobs because the factories are shut. Your government want you to blame the wrong factors in order for the big contracts that are being negotiated without your consent to get done in peace. so while you are poor ruing the ruins of your once great town blaming an also poor immigrant population who's come to this once great town to find there is no work and minimal opportunities, spare a thought for Whitehall, Westminster and the multinationals who saw this coming 60 years ago and didn't care. they even knew who you were going to blame. infant they knew if they also blamed them too, they would get away scott free and you would also vote for them.

[@bongobob7079]

TLDR

[@tiekumark]

@@bongobob7079 sorry I can’t cater to your concentration span

[@bignove5288]

Home sweet home

[@deborahknights295]

Cool i would been in primary. School. Me older brother there miss croydon living in Dorset know

[@errolmartin7733]

Croydon before trams were around. Late 80's or early 90's. I use to bank at the old Woolwich building society. Before kids started killing each other and shooting police men

[@charlenegrant8565]

Omg I love this!! 🎉

[@RCH422]

now pretty much most of the buildings aren’t being used

[@danielasartori6052]

Why does it look so much better than it does now?

[@Mickymouse-lx8eb]

Great days😊

[@timeresrch]

Sounds like you've added audio, like the 1900s videos. Too bad.

[@sik2185]

In the past like 1980 or 1990 the crime was high like now? I mean kids gangs etc

[@tomflaushe]

Doesn’t look like much has changed to me. Just the cars are more numerous and instead of the Wimpy we have a McDonald’s!

[@stratoreyener461]

Back when there were a lot less crashes and idiots on the roads even though owning a car wasn't as easy back then as now

[@stratac30]

I used to live in Croydon until 1977 and it wasn't a bad place to live with good shops, like Grants and Alders. Didn't visit it again until the early 90's how things were changing and not for the better, went back again in 2010 and you might as well be visiting a foreign country, the place has been spoiled by the influx of migrants, the good shops had gone and it wasn't a place you'd want live and the traffic is awful, though the tram system is good.

[@SMaasentertainment]

Today its much more prosperous, seems dead there no businesses at all. Couple of people walking around.

[@classicartfoundation639]

Yes it's much more prosperous and a total khazi full of halal shops

[@SMaasentertainment]

@@classicartfoundation639 your brain dead and religiously biased. Come up with something rational. Look at the development there recently and where the money came from ? Its from taxes generated by businesses and human Generation. Grow up benefits eater.

[@classicartfoundation639]

@@SMaasentertainment actually I have a successful art business you moron, and yes I have seen the 'evolution' of Croydon since school days since I was born here, unlike you asylum tosspot.

[@SMaasentertainment]

@@classicartfoundation639 if you are into art business i expect better. Anyway don't make art a business become a Artist you will learn a lot. So your against Asylum seekers?

[@SMaasentertainment]

@@classicartfoundation639 nothing remains the same, with time things change people come and go. I'm from lahore and my family lived there for centuries but now when I go there I hardly find any local but its booming city now. You can't stop humans from moving as we are from plant earth. Grow up

[@AD-pc9bg]

Nothing has change

[@zakvondaniken9327]

A time when people didn't wear Masks outside

[@nickhickson8738]

Oh dear, when people dressed properly, they were better mannered and tatoos were practically non-existent. Those were the days. We have descended into a pit of awfulness now.

[@stantorren4400]

Damn, the old man’s screaming at a cloud

[@ButterFly-jm2fb]

Good ole days.. total shite now!!!

[@malcolmcritchell7877]

What year is this?

[@Santosvets2011]

It says 'Croydon Centenary 1983' on the roundabout.

[@djpeekay25]

Says 1988 in the description

[@AbdulKareem-uy6hk]

@@Santosvets2011 , lol...

[@marleyite]

It wouldn’t of been as recent as 1988 with so many old Mark 4 Cortinas’s bombing past.

[@aby2395]

I’m tired of all these racist comments🙄. If you actually lived in Croydon you’d realise that this is east Croydon which looks exactly the same now just renovated and with trams. There are literally no “gangsters” as you call it in east Croydon, only office buildings, restaurants, shops, east Croydon station and box park. Stop talking rubbish.

[@bongobob7079]

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

[@bingbongbingbongbingbongbi4384]

typical denial

[@johnclark7065]

Most of these racist comments come from people who don't even live in London and are jealous because London is a great city .

[@kyboshimageans8975]

If you think it looked good in the 80s you should have been there in the 60s and 70s. When you put shit in a hole that's what it becomes. The place is now a shit hole. Boomers had the best of it 😉 Glad all over!!!

[@StuartOswald]

Diversity's done winders

[@ohcrikey9560]

I can't believe how quiet the roads are. At the time we thought it was really busy.

[@91hardeep]

As a Croydoner this was fascinating to see Croydon has defo changed alot

[@xigbar1994]

Had a lot of potential, now it's a mix of ancient worn buildings and completely new unoccupied apartment towers, with a clueless bankrupt council.

[@VPhantom-rf3qo]

Yep, flooded with migrants

[@capitalb5889]

Doesn't look any different to Croydon in the 2000s. A lot of new buildings since

[@triggerwarning7662]

*a lot

[@capitalb5889]

@[KD] Skullet - don't think I did. To clarify, the architecture in the 1980s at those points was basically unchanged versus the early naughties. Subsequently there has been a lot of development in the area.

[@Wild-Storm]

Lord, that look so cool. Not so much traffic, you could actually drive peacefully without hitting anyone. Now, it’s filled with wannabe gangsters every corner you go!

[@smashb3766]

If theyre wanabees then go say that in their face

[@Wild-Storm]

@@smashb3766 im too old for this shit now, these kids wouldnt last in my heydays! I was more of fist person rather than your folks who talks with blades and baseball bats...

[@smashb3766]

@@Wild-Storm Blades and baseball bats have been used in London since the 60s it’s nothing new. Age doesn’t matter, you’re simply all talk and can only make empty comments online.

[@Wild-Storm]

@@smashb3766 i’ll leave it at that. Youre right im all talk and youre the big bollocks! 👍👍👍

[@GetracksAb]

@Doris Johnson your not funny lol

[@macstar2010]

Croydon was a working town, full of office workers who would frequent pubs, cafes and shops on their lunch break or after work. I always remember it being pretty quite before and after lunch as people were in their offices working away. Now its a complete overcrowded constantly busy mess.

[@anthony68]

It’s heartbreaking when you compare this video to today’s Croydon what on earth happened

[@richardwallace5226]

Tony Blair and consecutive Labour and Tory governments having an open border policy and allowimg any one to come and live here. Not rocket science.

[@lluckyb8527]

@@richardwallace5226 Labour Party are traitors. Never to be trusted again.

[@andypeterson3070]

@@lluckyb8527 Exactly mate. I will always vote Tory. Not because I particularly want them to govern but it always has been and always will be a 2 horse race and I DO NOT want another Labour government.

[@richardwallace5226]

@@ukdrillmusic7734 Hey Drill music speak to me in English l.

[@BabyJellyfish]

It’s kind of amazing because I recognise all the buildings It looks pretty good Vs today so shabby. Bit crazy

[@jzckkd3227]

as someone who lives 5 mins from east croydon and been to every single place shown in this video, it’s sad seeing what it’s become especially what happened recently when that guy got stabbed in his neck after fighting with someone on a bus

[@freuday]

This comment has sadly repeated itself

[@angelray688]

And a 15 year old girl stabbed 2 months ago. Times have changed…

[@alanjax7685]

@@angelray688 my missus was robbed and stabbed by 2 nignogs in croydon in 1982 she was 15 then nothing new!

[@sarahwagland1559]

Ah, the Croydon I knew. Even the traffic sounds nicer.

[@angusmeigh5141]

There were far less homeless people in Croydon back then. Now there are lots of homeless beggars in the town sitting in doorways wrapped in blankets.

[@Natttttttttt]

It’s either that or being stuck in the nasty tower blocks with damp and mould and risk of electrocution. Why are we paying council tax to this incompetent lot, I do not want to be in a society where our most vulnerable are left to die

[@footballequalslife7452]

It because of crack addiction through the 80s and 90s

[@whitedovepink]

@@Natttttttttt agreed

[@spidyman8853]

Angus Meigh Not just in Croydon. It is every where in London

[@moshodi100]

@@Natttttttttt well said. I agree.

[@SP-lw7mr]

It’s a dump now. Wear a stab vest if you visit. I moved out to Caterham nearly 20 years ago. It’s already proving to have been not far enough.

[@unbiasedcritic9714]

Shut up and man up

[@SP-lw7mr]

@@unbiasedcritic9714 intelligent feedback. Thanks. If there’s any part of what I said is inaccurate please feel free to correct me. The place is a dump Compared to 20-30 years ago. Gang related crime and incidences of knife crime are up and the place is so far gone a lot of the shops were empty even before lockdown. It’s just become a place for inner London boroughs to ship their crap out to. No one wants to work there and some long-standing businesses have moved out. What has being a man got to do with it? I work hard, have my own house, don’t treat benefits like a guaranteed income and I’ve brought up two very well balanced kids who will be contributors to society and the economy rather than takers. ‘Shut up’ seems to be the most intelligent comment you’ll get out of the mouth of the average Croydon simpleton these days.

[@unbiasedcritic9714]

@@SP-lw7mr if your not involved in that life at all then you have nothing to worry about. If You’re a civilian then just worry about going to work, school or whatever you do and just get back home safely. The only people that have to worry about that are people already involved in that lifestyle. You’re safe so don’t worry

[@SP-lw7mr]

@@unbiasedcritic9714 ‘civilian’? Grow up. People get stabbed for the their wristwatches and phones in Croydon. I wouldn’t give a toss if the only lives affected were wannabe gangstas but it’s not. It makes an area shit and then people moan the areas that BAME people live in are shit when it’s self inflicted. It’s a shame the indigenous have to relocate whilst the country turns in to one large slum.

[@SP-lw7mr]

@Who wants to be a millionaire? the country has been majority white with Europeans for as long as you care to go back in history. By cringeworthy do you mean uncomfortable truth? If you feel you have some facts to the contrary then just feel free to pass them on. Which blacks have been dominant in the UK? The Romans? The Normans? Do tell?

[@jonathanngai5956]

The world looks more developed in the past.

[@ShahidKhan-ke8fe]

Low resolution makes everything look better.

[@Yh-vi2sv]

Don’t be silly

[@Anticommunism99]

No so much migrants, clean and calm city

[@riz6128]

No?

[@marleyite]

It was more developed, we were in a better place mentally. New technology has ruined the planet and benefitted a few.

[@christinefrench5223]

Now, this is the Croydon I loved and is in my heart, now a lost world. Thank you, made my day.

[@ja7419]

Lost world?

[@AbdulKareem-uy6hk]

@@ja7419 , lol..

[@AbdulKareem-uy6hk]

I lived off West Croydon for 3 months and left in June 2020. West Croydon is not a desirable place to raise a family to be honest. However, this clip is mostly of East Croydon and the town centre which looks the same to me 👀

[@sarahwagland1559]

​@@AbdulKareem-uy6hkThe station is now a monstrosity.

[@andypeterson3070]

I'm Croydon born and bred, back in the 70's and 80's it was a nice place to live. Now it's a skuzzy Ghetto and that's the truth.

[@user-xo5lc1iv1p]

Skuzzy🤣

[@andypeterson3070]

@@user-xo5lc1iv1p I know hilarious isn't it...boom boom!!!!

[@manescreen4738]

Agree

[@michaeldavis2039]

Ahh!!! This is the Croydon of my boyhood growing up in the 80s!! Been living in the U.S. for 27 years now. Didn't get a chance to actually explore Croydon my last trip back in November 2019, but from what I saw when I got off the train at East Croydon Station, so much has changed. I remember both the brick structure of East Croydon Station back in the 80s and was around in the early 90s when they reconstructed the station to what it is today before I immigrated to the States in 1995. The NLA Tower is one of the few iconic landmark buildings that I still recognised on my 2019 visit. Great memories!!!

[@jumpstar9000]

Hah, I worked on Wellesley Road between 1990 and 1994, just around the corner from the station. What you say is so spot on. Office workers everywhere, guys in suits and ties and women in skirts and freshly pressed blouses. I had to go up to Clapham Junction and back down every morning and night because I was on a different line. What a nightmare. I ended up moving to the US myself in 1994. How fun. Now, after many years back in the UK. I wonder what Croydon looks like these days. I should take a look.

[@alexk3948]

My mum worked in the NLA tower so I got to go inside sometimes - the floor layout was a bit mad.

[@qamerashah]

Same story for me bud, been in the U.S now 38 years

[@infohound41]

Sadly, it's not really recovered since the 2008 crash. A lot of the offices closed down after the recession and the shops in the Whitgift Centre were closed for the Westfield shopping centre but this got cancelled. Hope it will recover one day.

[@Dwayne3007]

Going Croydon was a day out back then. How times have changed

[@slytub]

Now you wanna get in and out as fast as you can 🤣

[@anin52]

Yes it really was !

[@donlogan83]

Is it possible to have ONE video of old street scenes, without people clattering on about immigration? It’s boring FFS.

[@junglist6124]

Does look a lot more chilled those times , a lot nicer .

[@StuartOswald]

Same as most of the UK

[@marcokite]

I remember Croydon in 1980s, it WAS chilled out

[@jacklancaster6927]

Back with not a immigrant in sight

[@roomullan3050]

Before it became over run by foreigners

[@dondraper2488]

Aah,the good old days....Two whole minutes gone by without a stabbing or acid attack.

[@AD-kv9kj]

Iranian embassy seige... a spate of plane hijackings throughout the 1970s... The Yorkshire ripper... Harold Shipman... The cold war... just to name a few. You people are having your minds twisted and deranged into believing somehow horrific and vile crimes and violence are new and back when we were young was somehow utopia. Utter bollox mate, get your head out of the tabloids. They feed you highly specific, cherry picked stories to wind you up like this.

[@dondraper2488]

And all that happened in Croydon did it...?

[@overboardwrekless3061]

@@dondraper2488 Yes it did!.. You also missed the Great wall of China, Moon landings and I think if I am correct President Kennedy was shot driving along wellesley road... Tha'ts some borough!!!

[@omanicc9854]

Bloody nora, you should see it now!

[@androidloid2191]

It does really feel like you're in a big town outside of London when you go to Croydon.

[@chrispayne523]

When it was good to live in Croydon.

[@meiko431]

People looked more elegantly dressed.

[@alexk3948]

I had many happy lunch breaks walking around the centre of Croydon. People used to think I was a manager in Woolworths because I was wearing a cheap suit!

[@AndreTraveler]

Good video. I also have recent croydon videos on my channel.

[@hiimmya1041]

It must be nice to be able to remember stuff from the 20th century😔my 2007 ass cant relate

[@fightermma]

Don't worry better days are ahead ☺️

[@myristicina.]

Same here (2006) 🥲

[@chucky2316]

@@fightermma worst days if you ask me now a lot of croyden folk Cant even feed themselves

[@Catford24]

It’s not hard to see why it’s been ruined. We all know why.

[@ilyyama8893]

Nope, say it.

[@Catford24]

@@ilyyama8893 I don’t need to. You are fully aware of why London has gone downhill. Look at gang knife crime. Read the papers and see who is behind it. Also look at the terrorist attacks in the last decade and see who is behind it. Sadly I cannot spell it out to you because of political correctness.

[@ilyyama8893]

@@Catford24 Because you're a coward

[@Catford24]

@@ilyyama8893 hahaha. Not at all. I follow rules and don’t want to get booted from KZbin after you cry like a baby to admin.. But tell me a time and a place and I’ll happily come and tell you to your face.

[@ilyyama8893]

@@Catford24 I'm literally at clapham common, im going to be here for the next 2 hours... red shirt, white gloves and black tracksuit. pull up

[@Atomicsuplex]

Very Terry and June

[@stephenmccoy898]

But I'll still be dreaming of you Croydon even in the cold and rain,,, ahh captain sensible croydons favourite son

[@elbecko7969]

It's nice to see the old cars

[@universe2823]

People saying they are sad to see how different it looks now, but I have been born and bred here and just walked these streets today and it's practically the same with just new storefronts. Edit: And trams

[@classicartfoundation639]

Until you wander into the west side, like a cross between Africa and calcutta

[@FriendlyNeighborhoodLawyer]

@uni verse Totally agree with you. People in the comments are acting like it’s a whole new world. It looks pretty much the same 😂😂😂

[@richardwallace5226]

Maybe you should take off the rose tinted spectacles and look around and see all the closed shops, bars and restaurants that used to exist, The newly built sky scraper social housing developments The non white population that hardly live there any more.

[@FriendlyNeighborhoodLawyer]

@@richardwallace5226 I'm happy in my rose tinted glasses thanks. I'd rather live happy than die miserably x Thanks for providing age old wisdom that I didn't ask for though.

[@richardwallace5226]

@@FriendlyNeighborhoodLawyer If you are happy being a deluded slave to a corrupt system that hates you THAT is your choice. If that is your idea of happiness I really do feel sorry for you. Regardless of all the problems going on in the world i would rather face up to the reality of the WORLD we live in rather than be a useful brain washed individual to this system.

[@nickywilks7928]

I remember this Croydon.....now unfortunately it's unrecognisable.

[@SevenDaysToNoon]

Lovely. Not like that now. Is like being in a different country! 😳

[@richardclarke376]

If you'd told people then that in 30 years the council would be bankrupt and 1 and a half billion pounds in debt they'd have thought you were mad.

[@matinhewing1]

Were there many stabbings in the 1980’s in Croydon? Seems like one a week there now...

[@charliechristmas5147]

Used to run the Oval Tavern, in Oval Road back in 82-85.......I recognise the three penny bit office on the roundabout by East Croydon Station.

[@jackiedelvalle]

Haha! We used to call it The 50p Tower! Was it not actually the NLA Tower? 🤔

[@charliechristmas5147]

It was some kind of insurance company as many of the staff used my pub...was it Sun Alliance ?

[@nickhickson8738]

I went to Croydon Tech college in the late '50s early 60s or whenever they were building that ruddy underpass. I was studying for my BSc degree.

[@xigbar1994]

First time I've seen Croydon without the tramlines. I was only 6 when they were installed.

[@explorewithgeoff]

Most my time there was before the trams. I watched them remove the old railway lines before they placed the tram along some of the old route. I also walked at night along where the old train lines were after they were removed (under the bridge at Sandilands), and went up under an old station platform and then to one of the tunnels. That was great fun but scary!

[@jonathan.schivaura3409]

They don't spend money on Croydon anymore and you can see it. Sucessive Govenments and Local Authorities have failed to invest in the upkeep of Croydon looks very tired now sadly. Needs some investment thats all.

[@lafluerpeter9]

That would be because the labour run council has made Croydon bankrupt.

[@TheMusicalElitist]

@@lafluerpeter9 Shut up, you Tory idiot.

[@lafluerpeter9]

@@TheMusicalElitist For one you guardian reading, left footing, quiche lorraine and kale eating twat I don't vote tory. Secondly where is it a lie that the Labour Council run Croydon into the ground 🤔 and has been bankrupt. Yea you keep spouting you labour twat.

[@TheMusicalElitist]

@@lafluerpeter9 😂😂😂😂😂 Keep living in the past, you complete fool. Oh and what’s it like supporting a party that used racial slurs in its campaigns? Racist much?

[@lafluerpeter9]

@@TheMusicalElitist Are you a crackhead? Let me break it down into a palatable way that you understand. 1)I (me, the one replying to you) don't vote tory. 2) Labour (the elected Council for the Borough of Croydon) had money given to them by central government that they pissed up the wall, leaving the Borough bankrupt and it's inhabitants (which I used to be) without services due to the LABOUR COUNCIL SPENDING ALL THE MONEY. 3) The Conservative Party may have used racial slurs, then again labour are proven anti semits so, you know stones and glasshouses. Mate your a bit of a tool if you think somehow stating the FACT that Labour have run a Borough into the ground is akin to voting the opposition. Fun fact I used to vote Labour until I see what a bunch of divs they have in their fanbase, and you seem to prove it you special case. So as all is said, I guess you don't like them jews much aye.

[@Scott-nv7ef]

No graffiti, no rubbish on the streets, no pigeon shit everywhere, my god, what on earth happened.

[@henryviii6341]

started work 1983 in the Three’penny bit building - English Insurance Co. Old EC Station much nicer and more comfortable than now. you could easily wait to pick up people no problem no one way system no tram tracks no CCTV no road humps. a pleasant town centre. now destroyed. Allders gone the high st lost its vitality when traffic was banned.

[@DanielleKingdjdinosaur]

this is where i spent my money and my youth.My records my clothes my clubs ,pubs ,and parties.My jobs,my dole,my loves,my soul.my rock and roll.

[@TrueBrit1]

1:53 - I used to work in that big tall building in the background (just to the left of the street light) 10 years or so ago. I used to go to Croydon to shop back in the 80s and 90s when it was pretty nice, but when I was there back in the late 2000s it had become a total sh1thole. On two occasions I saw somebody walk into the Greggs shop (slightly to the left in the same shot as the building - it obviously didn't exist when this was filmed), pick stuff up and then just walk out without paying. Both times the staff shouted out something like "Hey, you've gotta pay for that!" and both times the thief just turned round, stuck their finger up and told the staff member to F off and kept walking. Never have I seen something so brazen. I asked why weren't they going to do something about it and both times they just said there was no point, it happened a lot and it wasn't worth the risk as they don't know what might happen if they tried to do anything other than shout at them. They had been told that by head office - i.e., don't get involved, just ignore it. I made the point that while I understood that, why were law abiding people, like me and almost everybody else, having to pay more to cover the losses due to thieves?? But I didn't hold a grudge as their sausage rolls were just toooo good! Also on two separate occasions, while standing having a smoke, I had somebody come up to me and demand a cigarette. Both times I said no (out of principle but also I don't like people trying to push me around), and both verbally abused me and one even threatened me with a knife! All for a cigarette! I wouldn't go back there again, and even people I worked with that lived in Croydon were desperate to get out any way they could. I repeat - A TOTAL SH1THOLE!!

[@snubby4624]

Stealing from Greggs was a thing for teenagers in the 2000's. Never understood it.

[@ilkoconsult]

Sadly all gets wrong with the new millennials, at time this video was shot a had been 12-13 yers boy living in communist Bulgaria and never cross my mind that some time in distant future would end up at a night out in disco club in Croydon. Watching it now I really do appreciated how calm everything was back then.

[@FILNAT2011]

I can easy imagine myself being somewhere in this video, I used to work in allders

[@anurakeppe9853]

That’s where I bought my first expensive winter coat for £76 . 1984. Big money then for a coat . Love Alders

[@laurendelane6361]

Oh yes remember Alders and Debenhams

[@R.I.P_clan]

Ahhh the days of no smartphones when people actually used to live.

[@marknestbox]

Once it was tolerably crappy; now its an utter dump full of criminality.

[@zebedep]

Looked a more pleasant place to be then

[@foodconnoisseur8397]

Not a single kurwa to be seen ...but now kurwa kurwa spit spit kurwa everywhere.

[@saxonstacker1078]

It was nice then, not like now.

[@andrewrichardson6981]

Croydon's never been nice

[@saxonstacker1078]

@@andrewrichardson6981 .....people were fun and the town was a happy place in my opinion.

[@shushman101]

Oh this was Croydon in that time wow it looks different

[@7Yaddd]

This is not the Croydon I live in it’s so calm and peaceful before wow

[@explorewithgeoff]

I think this was filmed on a Sunday or something. I lived there for a very long time and it was never that empty unless it was very early/late or a Sunday. Croydon, especially the 2 areas shown in this (outside and opposite East Croydon Station and in the middle of the underpass) were always busy during the day. I remember it when it looked even more different to this.

[@7Yaddd]

@@explorewithgeoff crazy what years was this?

[@explorewithgeoff]

@@7YadddI don't know when it was filmed, looks more like 70s to me than 80s though. I lived there all through the 70s, 80s and 90s. Can't believe it's so long ago!

[@7Yaddd]

@@explorewithgeoff that’s a very long time ago

[@TwistedBloke]

It's such a shame 😢

[@laurendelane6361]

Wow. Time time time time. Changes everything.

[@Mr-Dutchy-Dutch]

yea same this is how I remember good old croydon and now today damn I just don't no it no more so much change all this new stuff now

[@naval-nation2259]

Everything was so much simpler now this generation 🤐

[@mrntm5208]

Wow, Croydon's gone down hill