2024 Chevrolet Colorado ZR2 Bison Off-Road Test in Johnson Valley

Ryan gets behind the wheel of the new 2023/2024 Chevy Colorado ZR2 Bison at the challenging Johnson Valley ORV Park. He discovers this vehicle is equal parts fun and frustration.
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[@jaekimchi]

I don't understand why Chevy refuses to make an SUV based on the Colorado platform. It doesn't even need to have removable doors/roofs. A body on frame SUV with front and rear lockers and 35s would instantly make Chevy competitive in the midsize off-road SUV market.

[@rightlanehog3151]

GM's refusal to compete with Wrangler, 4Runner and Bronco is one of the great mysteries. 🤔

[@whocaresjustdoit]

Yep! If they make an SUV out of this maybe that’ll force Toyota to step up the game and make the 4Runner better 😅. A fully enclosed, super capable SUV would attract a lot of buyers. I personally don’t like Wranglers and Broncos because of how loud they are on the highway.

[@lolotus4borderless]

Is the new traverse AT4 wouldn’t be just that?

[@whocaresjustdoit]

@@lolotus4borderlessI think it’s more of a pretender than contender. Nowhere at the level of the 4Runner or any of the real off-road capable midsize off-road SUV (Wrangler or Bronco)

[@kx8960]

Agree 100%. One of the main reasons I DIDN'T buy a Gladiator Rubicon turbo-diesel (besides the price) or a 2dr Bronco Sasquatch is the fact that I will NEVER remove the doors, and would only VERY rarely remove the front (only) top. So, with the 2024 (so they can work the bugs out) ZR2, I can get a power moonroof which I MUCH prefer anyways. Vastly better structural integrity, windows that won't freeze up making it hard to open and impossible to seal in winter here (Bronco). I'm sure the VAST majority of people in Jeeps and Bronco's rarely if ever remove the doors/roof, they jost want to LOOK like they do when mall crawling. It's just far too impractical with rain/snow/dirt/mud/dust, and theft issues. If they made a Trailblazer like this based on the Colorado ZR2 platform I'm sure they'd sell a TON of them to people who don't want all the shortcomings of removable doors and roofs. I'd like to see a small turbodiesel (though not the one in the last Colorado) option, the new smaller 3L Duramax @ 305hp and 496lb-ft. I'd pay extra for that to get better mileage.

[@TheNorthWestDude]

23 ZR2 owner here. The Goodyear MT's aren't mud terrains, MT stands for Maximum Traction and that is EXACTLY what they are. I just moved from a 19 ZR2 with the Duratrac's which are true mud terrains. I do a decent amount of off-roading and the MT is great. DuraTrac is a bit "grippy'er" off road but not much.. that said the MT is a dream on the pavement. My old DuraTrac's made my last truck feel like ice skates on anything but dry pavement... unless you are in 4 wheel auto... then it was fine. a 23 ZR2 with MT's in rain/ice rides like it is on rails in 2WD... possibly the added weight and wider wheel base helped this as well.

[@CommonSensePlease-1]

I've the tested both the Goodyear Territory MT and AT tires and the MT (Maximum Traction) are a much better all around tire. They even have pretty good traction in deep snow even though they aren't three peak rated.

[@hollinutz]

The Bison and the Desert Boss you tested kept going into 2wd because you were driving it incorrectly in terrain mode. It’s not a truck issue. Cheers!

[@hochhaul]

Correct. Terrain mode is telling the computer that you're slowly crawling over rocky terrain. When he gooses the throttle, the truck is trying to prevent him from inducing wheel hop and busting parts out on a trail. If he would have locked his lockers as they intended everyone to do, and drive slowly like he's rock crawling, it would have stayed in 4WD.

[@hollinutz]

@@hochhaul Yep, exactly. If he’s going to review trucks he needs to learn how they work before giving reviews based on how he “thinks” they should be driven. It’s very misleading to potential customers. His issues were 100% his fault for not listening to instruction.

[@bigbluezo6]

​@@hollinutznailed it

[@cobyjones9519]

Terrain mode is meant to be used as one pedal driving and when you try to drive 2 footed the truck doesn’t like it…that’s why it goes out of 4wd.

[@fitsector4271]

Transfer case going into 2wd, updates draining battery over night, rear camera not working… I hope GM can refine this software soon because I’m just half a year away from purchasing a ZR2. Good thing GM engineering people attended this test to witness this bugs. Great review !

[@jasonthach44]

Well it just shows you they haven't done enough testing.

[@TREVORJB101]

​@jasonthach44 You don't know what you're talking about.. These are pre production with 3rd party software programs. Most if not all use them, regardless of brand. I live near a GM proving grounds and see these and other GM trucks being tested all the time. I saw a wrapped Bison in person 2 years ago.

[@fitsector4271]

Maybe the software is intended to do this. Think about this. Truck is doing rock crawling, at a certain level of incline, if you floor it there are some risk of loosing control. Also dropping all 430 lb/ft on the transfer case something is going to get messed up. Probably if you stay easy on the gas pedal the truck will stay on 4WD

[@RCian2000]

They already fixed the update glitch. Which was their worst problem. This truck is bullet proof. Software will get every brand at one point or another. Which they fix over the air.

[@oscarposada6144]

Ok chief let me get this straight..... You listed all of the problems with the new Colorado AND YOU STILL GONNA BUY ONE......SMH....... Forget about the Colorado until 2025 them maybe gm has worked out all of the issues.

[@Jeepingshort]

Looks so good. Tacoma should be worried. This is more capable in every terrain.

[@mz1906]

except when it turned itself off and then dumped 4WD mode the next time

[@hochhaul]

@@mz1906 It's actually because he doesn't understand that terrain mode is for a specific situation -- slowly crawling over rocky terrain with locker. he told them he didn't have his lockers on and then he proceeds to goose the throttle in terrain mode. the truck thinks he's rock crawling and getting the tires to slip and spin, which would risk wheel hop. wheel hop breaks stuff no matter what brand of truck or aftermarket part it is. so the computer was intervening. had he followed their instructions at the beginning he wouldn't have had any issue. Wheel hop in 4lo is really great at breaking things. Tacoma guys blow up the factory rear diff while rock crawling due to wheel hop all the time. watch?v=7lmqGD76pcc

[@hochhaul]

@@RRr-yl8zr No, the guy driving the truck is just clueless

[@0HOON0]

Amazing to see "midsize" trucks now have jeep level capability straight from the factory. Really hope that GM management gives their engineers the resources to climb back up the reliability rankings.

[@jaekimchi]

Depends on how you define capability. The mid-size truck segment had already surpassed Jeep capability for most off-road situations.

[@TexasStormChaser]

@@jaekimchi The Ford Ranger surpassed Jeep capability since 2011.

[@rightlanehog3151]

I have been waiting 40 years for GM to catch up on long-term reliability.

[@TexasStormChaser]

@@SanctumOfDreams Obviously the only vehicle you’ve driven off-road is your fixie on grass.

[@jaekimchi]

@@SanctumOfDreams Gladiator is probably the weakest of the mid-size trucks. Solid front axle holds it back.

[@xtrmwakeborder]

Hope you take it to the snow like the last ZR2. That has been my favorite video so far

[@TREVORJB101]

Mine, too, by a mile!😂😂😂

[@0HOON0]

Lol. That one would have been a long, cold walk out if he got stuck.

[@Traumatree]

And with real winter tires - not mud tires - so we can see its real capabilities!

[@homerepairguy1902]

I like my Trail boss as well kzbin.info5KXj-NoxhqI?si=sJbhFGCvSeq6P4H9

[@williamhibbard1535]

I remember when you drove a Colorado Bison couple years ago when you were up in the snow covered mountains having a real good time

[@drivingsports]

That was a fun one. ;)

[@SavageSpartan-]

I have a Sierra 1500 Elevation refresh, lease is up in 1.5 years, I’m defiantly going for a ZR2 or Canyon AT4X with 35’s. These trucks are pretty awesome. Perfect size too.

[@josephmorales9321]

You and every other simp lol

[@Alexis_jr]

In the User Manual explain what Happen. It say that don’t put the Front locker in the Terrain Mode put only in the offroad Mode because is overprotecting the Transfer case Even with the Rear locker is the Same only use it in offroad Mode Not terrain Mode. I have mine for 2 months Not too much experience but I read 2 or 3 times the User manual for 4x4 Modes and it explain it everything about it

[@drivingsports]

Weird since the engineers that designed the vehicle (IIRC) asked us to put the vehicles in Terrain and also engage the front lockers.

[@Traumatree]

Finally, someone read the book! I suspected this since the Trail Boss video issue. Terrain is not for extrame crawling. Off-Road mode it.

[@Alexis_jr]

@@drivingsports Ohh well I am not an expert and they are but if you look on the manual it Can be Download in the GMC web Page it talk about that I Hope is that and Not a failure in the 4x4 System because I Spend a lot of Money in this Truck I am from Mexico here the Price is quite higher than in the US

[@awee8942]

I want to see the new toyota tacoma to be tested in these conditions! That will be *AWESOME*

[@Jeepingshort]

It wouldn’t make it

[@mujtaballa3105]

@@Jeepingshortsource: trust me bro.

[@tristan_g9508]

The bison is a step above the TRD Pro or Trailhunter. No doubt about it. They compete more directly with the ZR2 same with the Raptor. None of the competitors have 35s, or stamped boron steel skid plates and bumpers all around, Or hydraulic jounce control bump stops, or long travel suspension. Just not even close

[@jmpersic]

Thanks for taking this out in the wild and showing us what it can do Ryan! I'll think about that every time I see these trucks in their natural habitat (Costco parking lot).

[@johnalcantara3585]

😂😂😂

[@allanramirez5717]

You must live in New York

[@jmpersic]

LOL, I live in the South brother man!@@allanramirez5717

[@bekabeka71]

😂😂😂 typical Americans 😂😂

[@krasnaludek298]

Maybe if you live in the City. I have the standard ZR2 & live in the Sierra Nevada mountains … goes off pavement often. What do you care how people use their vehicles anyway … you emotional or hurt about it? 🤡

[@andyvaldez212]

I have ranger tremor and of all the new mid size off road pickups this for me is the one to get... Chevy did a great job

[@Redmow51]

I have a '22 Silverado Trail Boss. Used to have a Jeep before that and I miss the off-roading fun. Thinking about getting the ZR2 Bison.

[@sleeeper88]

You take away so much capability not locking the front diff dude. I have a zr2 Colorado and locking front diff is huge in these situations.

[@hochhaul]

He also doesn't understand that terrain mode is for a specific situation -- slowly crawling over rocky terrain with locker. he told them he didn't have his lockers on and then he proceeds to goose the throttle in terrain mode. the truck thinks he's rock crawling and getting the tires to slip and spin, which would risk wheel hop. wheel hop breaks stuff no matter what brand of truck or aftermarket part it is. so the computer was intervening. had he followed their instructions at the beginning he wouldn't have had any issue.

[@mitchsargent5543]

Love your videos! Great, honest, & unbiased! Really strange about the 4L issues...Not exactly confidence inspiring...wouldn't want to be deep in the wilderness and lose 4W capabilities...

[@2cthetruth]

…and you probably will. Electronics have limits. Shifting and gauges should all be manual/analog.

[@rangerrecon]

It is a little concerning that the Bison and the Desert Boss both had this issue with the 4WD getting deactivated automatically and unexpectedly with just a little wheel slippage. I'm hoping that production Bisons resolve this issue (as I understand it, the Bison package is replacing the Desert Boss edition in 2024).

[@hochhaul]

It isn't an issue with the truck. It's an issue of him not understanding how the 4WD system and terrain mode work. He doesn't understand that terrain mode is for a specific situation -- slowly crawling over rocky terrain with lockers engaged. he told them he didn't have his lockers on and then he proceeds to goose the throttle in terrain mode. the truck thinks he's rock crawling and getting the tires to slip and spin, which would risk wheel hop. wheel hop breaks stuff no matter what brand of truck or aftermarket part it is. so the computer was intervening. had he followed their instructions at the beginning he wouldn't have had any issue.

[@steverupert6988]

If they'd have made a substantial change to this truck rather than adding bigger tires and a bump stop, I'd 100% buy one. For example, if they'd have put a Turbo V6 in it, or some other more powerful engine that's not a standard 4 cylinder, they'd have received far more interest.

[@Sloimer]

I feel like it’s ridiculous to add all of that weight and keep the same drive train, which was already a little lacking. If this thing had 400 horsepower I’d be getting it tomorrow.

[@JohnRomeoAlpha]

It's one thing when there's an "issue" with a smart mode smartly turning itself off in the middle of a rock crawl demo. It's something else entirely if you're in a sketchy spot and depending on your machine to be there when you need it but it randomly shuts down and leaves you in a bind. More than just an unfortunate demo glitch, that looks sketchy as hell.

[@snn517]

right?!

[@WW-wf8tu]

Wow. Purposely looked forward to this to see the 4WD failing on you when you needed it. As you hinted at from the previous video where it failed. lol Is that bad to tune in for the failures? lol Thanks for the honest review and showing it working and not working. Some hide the failures and only emphasize when it is working. But, as I said in the other video, you are lucking it has not failed you completely.(yet) Getting the Raptor over 1 of these was a wiser choice. IMO. Nicely done. 🙂

[@aaronmartell3046]

Haha, the Craptor isn't made for off-roading. Just a status symbol

[@hochhaul]

The is nothing wrong with the truck or the 4WD. It's actually because he doesn't understand that terrain mode is for a specific situation -- slowly crawling over rocky terrain with locker. he told them he didn't have his lockers on and then he proceeds to goose the throttle in terrain mode. the truck thinks he's rock crawling and getting the tires to slip and spin, which would risk wheel hop. wheel hop breaks stuff no matter what brand of truck or aftermarket part it is. so the computer was intervening. had he followed their instructions at the beginning he wouldn't have had any issue.

[@Traumatree]

@9:59 you did the same mistake on the Trail Boss in your video where by playing with the settings, you turned off 4WD. The sequence seems to be put in 4LO first, lock both diffs manually and then Terrain - and use only 1-foot pedal as it is more precise than 2. I would have loved if you would have talked to the other drivers because up to now, you are the only one who had experience this with the ZR2. Could be a software glitch, but why would the system disengage the front lock diff like that? It is a thing that would have been spotted early in Chevy's testing way before they asked journalists to take it on an extreme course, don't you agree?

[@drivingsports]

You can’t switch from 4lo to 2hi without switching to neutral first. So the “drop” couldn’t happen by switching modes alone. It would notify me to switch to neutral first.

[@drivingsports]

At these press trips there’s a lot of journalists that overlook faults in exchange for the shrimp buffet.

[@BIGGIEBAG-XL]

He has issues with every single GM model even though nobody else does

[@drivingsports]

@@BIGGIEBAG-XL Most reviewers drive their press cars to wall*mart and call it good.

[@hochhaul]

It's actually because he doesn't understand that terrain mode is for a specific situation -- slowly crawling over rocky terrain with locker. he told them he didn't have his lockers on and then he proceeds to goose the throttle in terrain mode. the truck thinks he's rock crawling and getting the tires to slip and spin, which would risk wheel hop. wheel hop breaks stuff no matter what brand of truck or aftermarket part it is. so the computer was intervening. had he followed their instructions at the beginning he wouldn't have had any issue.

[@earlfletcher4814]

I love how when you asked it shouldn't turn off right? and the Chevy dude is speechless😅 really Chevy really

[@derrickkekeli8262]

This is definitely on my list.

[@ohwespicy7270]

Chevy bros getting mad that their truck is all for show. Been saying software issues for sometime now, and when you really need it this car won’t be there for you. Looks like a great truck, definitely a looker. But you should never give software too much control

[@hochhaul]

It's actually because he doesn't understand that terrain mode is for a specific situation -- slowly crawling over rocky terrain with locker. he told them he didn't have his lockers on and then he proceeds to goose the throttle in terrain mode. the truck thinks he's rock crawling and getting the tires to slip and spin, which would risk wheel hop. wheel hop breaks stuff no matter what brand of truck or aftermarket part it is. so the computer was intervening. had he followed their instructions at the beginning he wouldn't have had any issue.

[@brians.1357]

The last glitch you should’ve communicated to the guy that you chose not to turn the truck off and reset the computer as advised 😂

[@drivingsports]

FWIW, I did. Just condensed it into VO.

[@brians.1357]

@@drivingsports great video as always! I’m just trying to fire up the KZbin crowd hopefully get some more comments in here for the channel. I own a 17’ Colorado , love it! But believe me I know that’s not your fault “those glitches”

[@drivingsports]

@@brians.1357 😂

[@hochhaul]

He should have asked him how GM's transfer case and offroad modes work because he clearly doesn't understand, as evidenced by the fact that he thinks he needs to put the truck in neutral in order to shift into 4lo. You can literally put this truck in 4 lo while rolling forward in drive at 3mph. He doesn't understand that terrain mode is for a specific situation -- slowly crawling over rocky terrain with locker. he told them he didn't have his lockers on and then he proceeds to goose the throttle in terrain mode. the truck thinks he's rock crawling and getting the tires to slip and spin, which would risk wheel hop. wheel hop breaks stuff no matter what brand of truck or aftermarket part it is. so the computer was intervening. had he followed their instructions at the beginning he wouldn't have had any issue.

[@DailyOilersFaceoff]

The only thing this is missing is a access cab version that has a longer bed size so people can bring along their quads or bikes

[@ALMX5DP]

Tailgate down w/ bed extender?

[@RobustArid379]

We need to see a engine torture test ! We need to see high rev and super stress test 35k miles on the engine. We need to see durability

[@maro10ssrs]

Probably 50K or more and already having electrical issues. Not staying engaged in 4 low could be disastrous especially on a steep incline. Beautiful truck as far as design and looks but quality is GM (generic Motors).

[@hochhaul]

What tells you its an "electrical issue"? It could be as simple as a software bug or a bad sensor. Something that has plagued even Toyota for several years now.

[@hochhaul]

It's actually because he doesn't understand that terrain mode is for a specific situation -- slowly crawling over rocky terrain with locker. he told them he didn't have his lockers on and then he proceeds to goose the throttle in terrain mode. the truck thinks he's rock crawling and getting the tires to slip and spin, which would risk wheel hop. wheel hop breaks stuff no matter what brand of truck or aftermarket part it is. so the computer was intervening. had he followed their instructions at the beginning he wouldn't have had any issue.

[@snn517]

@11:00 thanks for making up my buying decision.

[@whocaresjustdoit]

I think this truck is 80.4 inches wide without mirrors? That’s crazy it’s as wide as a full size pick up truck. What’s crazier is that a Ford Raptor on 37s have better mpg than this truck 😅. Such a great truck from first impressions. Only thing that holds me back is the payload.

[@live4mac]

I bought the regular ZR2 about a month ago and was somewhat surprised that it is as wide at the wheels as a full size, and as tall as an HD truck. Thankfully I haven't seen any of the little bugs that seem to be plaguing some of the colorados. It's a really nice package, I just hope that they get past all of the teething issues sooner than later. Max payload for the bison is 1050lbs which isn't that bad when you consider that a lot of the heavy modifications, like tires, bumpers, skid plates, rock rails, etc are already accounted for. That leaves 1050lbs just for you, passengers, and your stuff.

[@whocaresjustdoit]

@@live4macthe more I think about it the more I feel like I should just get a Raptor to build an adventure rig. The Colorado ZR2 Bison is already as wide as a full size pick up so that partly destroys the size advantage of a midsize pickup. The Raptor is just a few inches wider. Also the Raptor has 1400 lbs payload and a much larger bed. Also range is also a concern. 20 gallon tank with mpg probably about 14-15, that only takes you about 300 miles between refills. A Raptor on 37s get 17-18 mpg so that’s 600 miles on a full tank. Also the price. This truck is probably around ~$70K before markups. With $10-$15K more you can just buy a Raptor. Idk I love this Colorado ZR2 Bison but the more I think about it I’m not sure it’s a good value for what I’m trying to achieve 😅. You’re loving it so far?

[@tinhinnh]

i think the width includes the fender flares, no way its 80” wide

[@whocaresjustdoit]

@@tinhinnhyeah of course it includes the fender flare. But on a trail it’s all the same right? 😅 on a trail it’s as wide as a Silverado 1500 or the 2500 HD. Not as long, but just as wide. I think it’s good for wide open desert but probably not as good as the regular ZR2 on tight trails.

[@tinhinnh]

@@whocaresjustdoitnot really the same since most of the body is narrower than a fullsize so its better in tight spaces

[@Avi_Hoffman]

I wish I could afford one.😢

[@mikeyc7072]

Really enjoy and appreciate your reviews and channel👍😎 Too much software/electronics in modern vehicles seems to be their achilles heel🤔

[@MegaAtlacatl]

A sport truck like this, across the vehicle line industry wide, should have a 6 cylinder engine given there prices IMO if it was an entry level pick-up truck then the 4 cylinder would be just fine with the option to upgrade the engines as you see fit. This thing is a dessert runner, rock crawler w a v4 that makes it awesome. But when it comes to hauling/towing the v4 aint gonna cut it may pull a heavy load but doing so at 3500rpms to 4k rpms is gonna kill the engine. An engine w a bigger displacement would handle workability much better in the long run. Let's not mention that turbos are gonna fry that little thing.

[@kx8960]

That turbo-4 has been in the full-size for a few years now with good reliability. I'm not worried. Would I PREFER a twin-turbo V6 like the Ranger Raptor? Sure, but if Chevy prices the Bison between the ZR2 and Raptor, maybe I'll buy one over the ZR2 I'm planning on.

[@kx8960]

@@RRr-yl8zr As mentioned (if you bothered to read it) that motor's been in full-sized trucks for years now with good reliability....

[@DragonKnightX12]

It's not your kids Honda engine. Lol It's built like a Diesel, and even gets low down torque like one. No one is doing any serious hauling/towing with any of those hopped up desert runners. They got about the same capability as a Honda Ridgeline. 😂 toy trucks.

[@hochhaul]

@@RRr-yl8zr It will probably last longer than the twin turbo V6 in the new Tundra, considering Toyota has a major issue with crank bearing failures on those engines....

[@EasyOhh]

I just came from a NA V6 truck, to this. The 4cyl turbo charged engine delivers power effortlessly, and perceptively, more power than my previous NA V6 engine. I'll take this 4cyl engine over a NA V6 any day.

[@paulcondie2520]

Put in a V8 and they'd sell millions! 💯💯💯

[@chileshemubanga3594]

Am taking this Colorado ZR2 Bison over the TRD -pro/Trailhunter any day any time.am Loving it!.

[@WanderYota]

I own a Tacoma but this definitely looks way better than the redesigned Taco.

[@hochhaul]

I was a big Taco fan for years. The 4th gen is terrible looking and I hate half of the changes they made between the 3rd gen and 4th gen.

[@PG-lf3rr]

Thanks for the hinest video and showcasing the crummy work of Chevy (on this, not all). I'll keep my 2022 Bronco 2 door wildtrak. It definitely stays in 4L

[@Doc1855]

Good review Ryan, But we will keep driving our older Ranger XLT super cab 4WD with only 36K miles

[@andrewfuqua6518]

Which midsize truck do you think is best?

[@xijinpooh8534]

Im very excited for this vehicle!

[@thewhiskeycowboy-official]

So you wanted to see if this was better than their standard ZR2 by using the same feature the standard ZR2 has but you didn't USE when test driving the standard ZR2? That makes perfect sense!

[@hochhaul]

It's actually because he doesn't understand that terrain mode is for a specific situation -- slowly crawling over rocky terrain with locker. he told them he didn't have his lockers on and then he proceeds to goose the throttle in terrain mode. the truck thinks he's rock crawling and getting the tires to slip and spin, which would risk wheel hop. wheel hop breaks stuff no matter what brand of truck or aftermarket part it is. so the computer was intervening. had he followed their instructions at the beginning he wouldn't have had any issue.

[@masterkendro]

When you use the truck, how you're supposed to it's crazy how it works right. You can tell by how you react to things being "off" to see you have low accountability.

[@John-cz6it]

This is the third video in which these zR2 have problems with 2x2 and 4x4…. I see many problems if you buy an early one

[@hochhaul]

The issues will probably be less severe than the blown head gaskets in the Bronco or engine failures in the 2022+ Tundra (of which there are many, kek).

[@hochhaul]

It's actually because he doesn't understand that terrain mode is for a specific situation -- slowly crawling over rocky terrain with locker. he told them he didn't have his lockers on and then he proceeds to goose the throttle in terrain mode. the truck thinks he's rock crawling and getting the tires to slip and spin, which would risk wheel hop. wheel hop breaks stuff no matter what brand of truck or aftermarket part it is. so the computer was intervening. had he followed their instructions at the beginning he wouldn't have had any issue.

[@oscarposada6144]

I watched the other video you did on the blue zr2. It had similar problems with the 4x4 system. Hmm maybe this is not ready for the general public because 99.99% of us won't have a Chevy technician along for the ride. Chevy should probably fix the 4x4 system before they actually sell the vehicle. I wonder how the Silverado bison is holding up?

[@earlfletcher4814]

They won't just out to make their money

[@hochhaul]

It's actually because he doesn't understand that terrain mode is for a specific situation -- slowly crawling over rocky terrain with locker. he told them he didn't have his lockers on and then he proceeds to goose the throttle in terrain mode. the truck thinks he's rock crawling and getting the tires to slip and spin, which would risk wheel hop. wheel hop breaks stuff no matter what brand of truck or aftermarket part it is. so the computer was intervening. had he followed their instructions at the beginning he wouldn't have had any issue.

[@oscarposada6144]

@@hochhaul So if you know all this why didn't the Chevy technician that was there address the issue before posting the video on the internet? I'm thinking that you're some sort of manager within GM. I'm not hating on Chevy. All vehicle makers now adays put together a new model with all of the technological bells and whistles and then recall the vehicles to fix the problems as they pop up. That's why most people don't buy the new one, they wait until all the problems are worked out for the following models. A perfect example is when Toyota changed the Tundra from a V8 to a turbo V6. It had all kinds of problems, but now it doesn't. Hopefully the 2024 zr2 will be ready to go.

[@hochhaul]

@oscarposada6144 I don't work for GM. But I can plainly see that this clown manages to have this "problem" in every single GM trucks he's in when nobody else has the issue. He's supposed to be using terrain and both lockers but he clearly tells them he doesn't have the lockers locked and they look around at each other as if speechless for how stupid the guy is.

[@panchoadelo]

I have replace the shocks in my 2021 Chevy ZR2 Colorado. Boy was that a shock - $1500 apiece at the dealer.

[@xiaolongwang6583]

start to look at the chevy colorado zr2, from a 2022 tacoma trd off road. Was looking to buy a 2024 4runner at very last minute, but nothing available any more in my area (do not want to over pay for a preowned one), and the new taco , or 4runner seems not as good, especially for their prices, they may get better, who knows. I never owned a domestic brand car before, so with your honest opinion, is this a good truck to own? you know, its reliability and durability kind aspects, I do not doubt its performance if everything is working as they suppose to. lol

[@sumatai1]

Did any of the other guys have that issue?

[@hgriff14]

This looks great for North Carolina roads and their pot holes.

[@CoolGamer32185]

What music is in the beginning

[@mallninja12]

It isn't really by Palm Springs... FYI JV is the Mojave High Desert, and PS is the end of the Colorado Low Desert so its really two ecosystems. The Salton Sea course you do (by Box Canyon) is the Low Desert. ;) I think "Behind Big Bear" is more descriptive.

[@drivingsports]

FWIW We were based in Palm Springs for the shoot.

[@paulramsay6589]

Cool truck but unfortunately I’m sure it’s going to be plagued with problems like most of GM’s recent vehicles

[@RCian2000]

The current tundra has 7 recalls.

[@thomas735]

@@RCian2000yeah but Toyota fixes it’s problems. Most brands don’t.

[@RCian2000]

@@thomas735 that’s just false lmao

[@thomas735]

@@RCian2000 in my experience the Asian brands do a better job fixing mistakes

[@RCian2000]

@@thomas735 there’s a list of issues from factory that they don’t even want to fix. I work at a Toyota dealership

[@commonsense7057]

I have a 2022 Colorado Z71 and if interest rates weren't ridiculous right now I would trade it in on one of these. I imagine they will come down next year before the election and when that happens I will have to pick one up.

[@jeffreyjohnston6843]

you need to put on both lockers

[@abutammam8277]

❤❤❤ساكون ممتنا وشاكرا لكم ان اهديتموني هذه النسخه الاكثر من رائعه ولكي نتمكن من تجربتها والترويج لها في اليمن❤❤❤

[@Tacosauce81]

Those are not mud terrain tires. MT stands for "maximum traction". According to Goodyear. I still think GM needs lower gearing. Also add the 3.0 Duramax. Fix the electronic bugs and they will win me back.

[@drivingsports]

Yeah, learned that just recently. Hate it.

[@Traumatree]

You're asking for an HD Silvarado ZR2 then :)

[@davidyackell]

$70,000 midsize truck. What has this world come to??? SMH SMH SMH SMH

[@whocaresjustdoit]

A super capable midsize truck. If you go the after market route to get a regular Colorado to this level of capability, you’ll most likely spend at least $25K in upgrades. Sure, you’ll spend a few thousand more more with GM but everything is under warranty and that’s the better option for a lot of people.

[@Revenant_Knight]

GM cars having issues? That's a first. /S Seriously though, usually the engineers can design something good, but the bean counters kill it.

[@hochhaul]

It's actually because he doesn't understand that terrain mode is for a specific situation -- slowly crawling over rocky terrain with locker. he told them he didn't have his lockers on and then he proceeds to goose the throttle in terrain mode. the truck thinks he's rock crawling and getting the tires to slip and spin, which would risk wheel hop. wheel hop breaks stuff no matter what brand of truck or aftermarket part it is. so the computer was intervening. had he followed their instructions at the beginning he wouldn't have had any issue.

[@johnchernidc2016]

Pretty sad that in the other Boston review, the truck rubbed the fronts so much that at full wheel lock, the truck wouldn't even move itself at idle due to the front tire rub holding it in place🤔

[@hochhaul]

That's what trimming is for.

[@Cavemol5823]

The fact it doesn’t come with its own tune is big turn off. It looks awesome though, software issues right now wouldn’t feel confident dropping 60k

[@ViralVidz4You]

Comparing this truck than raptor 5.2 or trx it's dumbest you can do. If i offering a gift for my grand ma i think this zr2 is a good choice.

[@williejames2170]

I enjoy this!!

[@Alchemist7291]

nice background music guys

[@zivkourosevic3940]

US Corporate bean counters strike again. Had a caliber SRT4 years back. Made designed and marketed for performance. The sensors were designed to throw it into limp mode at the first sign of heat or pressure to save drivetrain and not risk warranty repairs. I sense, pardon the pun, the same mentality is at play here. Sad as the truck is beautiful and designed well. Engineers should trump accountants, but not in the US auto industry it would seem.

[@Marazmatik17]

Классная тачка! Но у нас такую не увидишь..

[@orrinsjuice1]

Did you not used to be a part of the TFL team? Am I mistaken? I love your channel and have for a while.

[@drivingsports]

Nope! We’ve been around longer than TFL. (On KZbin and pre-KZbin)

[@littlenickie951]

And this is why manual shifters will always beat electronic!

[@hochhaul]

No manufacturer would build a truck with IFS and a front locker if it had a manual transfer case. There was nothing wrong with the truck, the guy doesn't understand that the computer will put it into 2wd if it detects too much wheel slippage. That's to prevent driveline damage due to wheel hop, which is induced by excessive slippage and sloppy throttle like he was doing. It's in the manual.

[@KocaineNWaffles]

Id love to have one of these but im not sure how good you can fit 2 rear facing car seats in the back.

[@10cpaul]

they will grow out of them

[@hochhaul]

My buddy has a 1st gen ZR2 and he has two bigass Gerber rear facing cars seats. They fit fine. This one is probably better than the 1st gen ZR2 to be honest.

[@BIGGIEBAG-XL]

You’re the only reviewer to have issues with GM trucks going into 4WD. Driver error?

[@bobvincent4841]

I'll stick with my power wagon. 38s, hardwired lockers, sliders, air bags, front and rear winches, ramboxes, high clearance bumpers, premier power high frequency welder, oxy propane torch, full size spare and more. But that little bison would be a cute little peecup for the little lady.

[@kx8960]

What I find absurd is people that complain about the gas mileage, and claim that the old V6 is better etc. Gas mileage is in large part dependent upon the power the engine produces. Make more power, it requires more fuel, simple thermodynamics. Could it be more efficient? Certainly. But, I think, for the power upgrade over the V6, I'll take that trade-off. ESPECIALLY since the turbo motor doesn't lose power at altitude like a NA engine would, and I live at 5,300ft, drive over a 93,00ft pass to get to work, and work at over 7,000ft. I'll take a turbo any day over a NA motor for the driving I do, and I go to CO often (moved away 5 years ago, sadly) and there are roads/passes a lot higher there.

[@kx8960]

@@RRr-yl8zr English is not your first language, is it?

[@mikegta14]

I'll take this out on the daniel boone byway in KY, and it'll get stuck or break down. No thanks, lmao. Yeah, sure, it comes with fill protection underneath, which I love, but I'll take my tacoma mudding still and get out worry free.

[@jarrodmcdaniel]

Maybe it wasn’t such a bad thing for the new Tundra not offering a 4Auto setting. Car and Driver also had this happen on their Silverado ZR2, as it popped out of 4 Low. I am aware enough of when to put into 4wheel drive, so personally I would rather not have a 4 Auto setting and have the simplicity of a standard transfer case.

[@birdymeo]

? 4A is not to switch between 4L and 4H. It allows safe use on pavement unlike 4H which is incredibly useful all winter long when you keep getting on and out of snowy road (small roads full of snow, larger roads and highways plowed). I use 4A all the time on my Bronco, in the rain, in the snow etc.

[@DragonKnightX12]

​@@birdymeoMost T-cases with 4uto are using clutch packs to engage 4x4 instead of a solid mechanical lock. Ford made one that does both originally for the Gen 2 Raptor.

[@hochhaul]

The is nothing wrong with the trucks or the 4WD. It's an issue of ignorance by the person operating the truck. He doesn't understand that terrain mode is for a specific situation -- slowly crawling over rocky terrain with locker. he told them he didn't have his lockers on and then he proceeds to goose the throttle in terrain mode. the truck thinks he's rock crawling and getting the tires to slip and spin, which would risk wheel hop. wheel hop breaks stuff no matter what brand of truck or aftermarket part it is. so the computer was intervening. had he followed their instructions at the beginning he wouldn't have had any issue.

[@youthgw]

all the new chevys been having major bugs with the electronics, Engineers needs to stress test their products and for the price point its pathetic...

[@hochhaul]

It's actually because he doesn't understand that terrain mode is for a specific situation -- slowly crawling over rocky terrain with locker. he told them he didn't have his lockers on and then he proceeds to goose the throttle in terrain mode. the truck thinks he's rock crawling and getting the tires to slip and spin, which would risk wheel hop. wheel hop breaks stuff no matter what brand of truck or aftermarket part it is. so the computer was intervening. had he followed their instructions at the beginning he wouldn't have had any issue.

[@SsnoopNinja]

Yeah the Zr2 colorado is over any Ford Ranger even the raptor ranger

[@jcfan1979]

As impressive as the little 4 cylinder is I'd never opt for it if there was the choice of a V-6. Can't believe GM took out all the engine options. Heck, even a small 4.8 V-8 they used to sell would be nice.

[@maro10ssrs]

Agree 100% Can't justify paying 50K for a 4 banger. Small V8 would be the 1st choice and a V6 as a second choice would be awesome.

[@Traumatree]

A 300hp and 400lbs of torque in a small turbo engine, you save weight lots of weight and don't mind the high altitude either.

[@jcfan1979]

@@Traumatree The problem I have is that you sacrifice low end grunt even though it's making a lot of torque around 3000 rpm it takes 5600 rpm to generate that horsepower. Also, the longevity of the motor will be far less that that of a good V-8 or V-6. Towing tests also have shown it stays in the high RPMs just to pull a 3000lb trailer. Just can't get behind that for the price.

[@vict1036]

I just watched tfl doing this and they had no problem staying in 4wd. This guy must be doing something wrong.

[@jcfan1979]

Could just be the pre-production truck has issues. Everyone else in the video seemed fine. Not saying Chevy doesn't need to step up their quality assurance testing however. They've had a fair amount of issues lately.

[@hochhaul]

He is. It's actually because he doesn't understand that terrain mode is for a specific situation -- slowly crawling over rocky terrain with locker. he told them he didn't have his lockers on and then he proceeds to goose the throttle in terrain mode. the truck thinks he's rock crawling and getting the tires to slip and spin, which would risk wheel hop. wheel hop breaks stuff no matter what brand of truck or aftermarket part it is. so the computer was intervening. had he followed their instructions at the beginning he wouldn't have had any issue.

[@hochhaul]

@@jcfan1979 no just him not understanding how to use 4lo+terrain mode.

[@MeatloafMelvin]

This is literally a few minutes from my house lol.

[@MusicStillRules]

wow, 4wd shuts off, just what we need to go froden, unbelievable… how may years has chevy been making trucks now?!

[@deanvader302]

User error perhaps? You do seem to have a lot of these issues.

[@drivingsports]

I never rule out user error… I just don’t see how a user error can cause the transfer case to switch from 4Lo to 2hi under throttle.

[@RobustArid379]

Why don’t they make it more expensive

[@jeffreyjohnston6843]

the zr2 will crawl on a lot worse sections then you did but they did a course so less experience people can do it

[@snn517]

no it won't the 4x4 will fail

[@JeffreyJohnston724]

shut up B@@snn517

[@ONELOVER12]

Tbh watch the video was awesome but the issue you had made me think but then you said it was post-production and the chevy team was there to make corrections made me want the truck even more because they are going to fix out the bug just like you were saying awesome video and lots of info also I like to thank you for showing us the issue it was having I don't think others would of left those parts in so thanks

[@longy77]

GM Please build a right hand drive spec colorado for us Aussies!!!

[@A.R.77]

10:28 ~ You're kind of all over the place. You're setting an option that should have been set before the rocky obstacles. Then (even worse) you started to go backward for several feet. Probably confusing the hell out of the truck.

[@hochhaul]

It's actually because he doesn't understand that terrain mode is for a specific situation -- slowly crawling over rocky terrain with locker. he told them he didn't have his lockers on and then he proceeds to goose the throttle in terrain mode. the truck thinks he's rock crawling and getting the tires to slip and spin, which would risk wheel hop. wheel hop breaks stuff no matter what brand of truck or aftermarket part it is. so the computer was intervening. had he followed their instructions at the beginning he wouldn't have had any issue.

[@A.R.77]

Agreed@@hochhaul

[@earlfletcher4814]

Production truck or not I don't have faith in these new computers running the rigs😅

[@thelifeofeli3700]

I have one on orde !

[@Tiovergudo]

The Zr2 has been around since the last gen and would still be better than anything Nissan has. 😂

[@Starting-Life-Again]

So with the Bison package, you get 35’s, a tad bit taller and hydrologic bump stops. What about gearing? With those tires there has to be different gearing. I can’t see these small amount of changes being that far away from the regular ZR2 package in price.

[@hochhaul]

It also includes the steel bumpers, cobalt steel skid plates, rear diff shield, steel fuel tank shield, etc. Also the AEV wheels and frame-mounted skids (ZR2 is mounted to cab like the Tacoma's skid).

[@MrTmarc1]

Nice truck..minor gripe..such a great job with front fascia/design..but come on, no LED turn Signals?! Ugly Halogens GM👎🏿👎🏿👎🏿

[@hochhaul]

Halogens is defitely a fail on GM's part. All the silverados get LED's. There's no excuse for halogens in 2023. They'll make LED's standard in a couple years to get the guys with halogen headlights to trade their trucks in. They always do stupid sht like that.

[@stevend3753]

Certainly not impressed with all the squeaks coming from the interior.

[@hochhaul]

Doesn't sound any worse than the squeaks every 3rd gen Tacoma makes.

[@thewireman134]

Buy a Ford then. Problem solved. Good day

[@hochhaul]

@@thewireman134 headgasket blowing junk

[@thewireman134]

@@hochhaul buy a tacoma then. Problem solved again

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

Great truck, but electronic gremlins are all over the internet with these. Over the air updates kill the battery, and kicks itself out of 4WD nearly all of the time...

[@atg1338]

Over blown

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

@atg1338 I wish that I was over-blown, get it...

[@atg1338]

@@richfarfugnuven6308 yes you are a child👍

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

@@atg1338 100%

[@DustanParker]

I want one

[@xfactorevo]

You cannot double pedal these new trucks. Its taking itself out if 4x4 to protect itself

[@TheHumanRanger]

This guy controls his happiness like he's afraid is ex-wife is gonna hear and want money lol

[@SSS-mp8th]

Totally could do that in my OBW...lol :) Impressive.

[@haze1123]

It will take GM a while to work out the bugs and make this reliable. Never be first in line to buy a fully revised GM model.

[@whocaresjustdoit]

I think that applies to all automakers. Even Toyota had (and is still having) a lot of problems with the new Tundras.

[@haze1123]

@@whocaresjustdoit Totally agree. But has GM ever built a super reliable turbo 4? The GM track record is a lot sketchier than Toyota.

[@rlhmarines]

@@haze1123..2.0 EcoTec turbo 4..Chevrolet Cobalt SS, Saturn Sky Redline, Pontiac Soltice GXP.

[@hochhaul]

It's actually because he doesn't understand that terrain mode is for a specific situation -- slowly crawling over rocky terrain with locker. he told them he didn't have his lockers on and then he proceeds to goose the throttle in terrain mode. the truck thinks he's rock crawling and getting the tires to slip and spin, which would risk wheel hop. wheel hop breaks stuff no matter what brand of truck or aftermarket part it is. so the computer was intervening. had he followed their instructions at the beginning he wouldn't have had any issue.

[@garrettproductions1513]

Yumps? I’ve always called them whoops

[@ajaxgrac6547]

Transfer case , differentials overheating

[@hochhaul]

It's actually because he doesn't understand that terrain mode is for a specific situation -- slowly crawling over rocky terrain with locker. he told them he didn't have his lockers on and then he proceeds to goose the throttle in terrain mode. the truck thinks he's rock crawling and getting the tires to slip and spin, which would risk wheel hop. wheel hop breaks stuff no matter what brand of truck or aftermarket part it is. so the computer was intervening. had he followed their instructions at the beginning he wouldn't have had any issue.

[@jeremiahmcdonald8587]

I don’t understand why these trucks are not AWD from the factory

[@jonathanthomas4722]

Don't two pedal in terrain mode.