Where would you go to give these systems a work-out?
@welcome2myworld1.o895 жыл бұрын
Driving Sports TV no where! Because I’d get stuck ASAP!
@dragonduel79095 жыл бұрын
During those launch tests, what does that torque distribution display show versus rear wheel spin (or lack of)?
@cajones93305 жыл бұрын
I took my 19 awd off road thru a tall grass/ muddy area after the big round of storms in Feb (san diego) in mud sand mode. It went thru no prob and all tires were spinning all over the place. I got worried for a second because it was alot muddier than i expected.
@Sylvan_dB5 жыл бұрын
Your selections were great!
@a.t.stowell17095 жыл бұрын
Transfer cases are failing everywhere. Investigate.
@Abbbb2255 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that you're actually explaining how the different AWD systems work and doing tests. This type of video is much better than the average car video dealing with AWD, which is usually without meaningful testing or pushing past the marketing fluff to see what's actually going on. My only critique is that more info would be good (exactly how much torque can transfer and how quickly, do incline/temperature sensors play a role, is ABS beefed up to handle constant brake-actuated torque shifting (master cylinder, pads, calipers), what type of clutch packs are used in torque vectoring (hydraulic, electric, wet/dry, etc. - are they likely to overheat or wear out with constant use?), is software upgradable, etc.). Looking at articulation and clearance would also, of course, be relevant, as would the transmission (some AWD systems seem limited by a CVT not being able to handle the load of moving more torque).
@sl37125 жыл бұрын
How you guys only have 68k subscribers is beyond me. You guys make better reviews than channels that have 500k subscribers. Keep it up
@gsanchez9225 жыл бұрын
I just subscribe
@mziwendukuntsele6715 жыл бұрын
I've just subscribed too.
@garywillis87375 жыл бұрын
I supposed a lot of subscribers are looking for 'entertainment', not so much 'actual value'. Sad, I know...
@Kiss__Kiss5 жыл бұрын
This is due to the decade plus of experience making excellent, and informative automotive videos/reviews.
@malandvulamachawe63234 жыл бұрын
Dish out crap you will have a dozen followers. Speak sense then its a different story.
@tontoschwartz69163 жыл бұрын
Very well done and explained. This is the best video on the AWD systems I have watched, and yes the Toyota guy is just that, trying to sell his cars and systems. The smirk is obnoxious. BUT YOU are right on the money, and that is sincerely appreciated. IF I really wanted full time AWD I'd buy a Subaru.
@boostedmaniac5 жыл бұрын
Toyota’s new AWD is basically still fwd but waits for the fronts to slip before sending any power to the back. It’s all still mpg based; don’t use the rears unless you absolutely have to.
@bob154794 жыл бұрын
I would actually prefer this mpg bias, I would just want to be able to turn it off.
@davidarnovitz6284 жыл бұрын
2019 rears are almost always engaged. Just look at the display plus I never get stuck, at least not yet.
@GamingAmbienceLive4 жыл бұрын
it kind of makes this system very reliable because it will be used so little, so you never have to worry if its fucked if you are buying a used car, on the other hand in the inclement weather it will do absolutely nothing, judging from this video, it will only matter when you are in a real pickle like deep snow or sand, or rocks, and out of these 3 its mainly only the deep snow, but with the climate becoming warmer and last winter we didn't even have any snow at all, this system will just add a bit of value to the car, just not practicality. AWD systems have always been designed first for safety, when you are hydroplaning or when you are cornering at high speed or taking off, and out of all the systems he showed Toyota's one is just plain useless when it comes to safety factor of the system. Maybe somebody smart can hack it and make it more useful, or maybe its a viscous coupling differential with the fluid thats not very viscous, thats why it engages so sluggishly.
@boostedmaniac4 жыл бұрын
Cody Slab AWD won’t help you with hydroplaning. If you’re hydroplaning, you’re usually going too fast, so adding power to all 4 wheels won’t help get traction. It’s mainly been useful for in rainy weather for accelerating hard into traffic, and climbing hills in heavy snow and ice for me. Most of the AWD systems aren’t torque vectoring so they don’t help with high speed turning.
@Monster-5194 ай бұрын
That is one reason I wouldn't necessarily want to get stuff like a RAV4 over a Subaru of some sort considering the AWD is primarily front and sometimes rear when needed unlike Subaru where it is a 50/50 split always.
@GeorgeChaidaris5 жыл бұрын
The more I watch of this channel the more I appreciate it. Substantial, well informed reviewing and REALISTIC real world testing, no comical "outrageously pumped-up Jeep vs Soccer mom crossover on summer tires in Hell's Revenge tub: Only one makes it out" clickbate content... Keep it up!
@UngerTime5 жыл бұрын
What a great video and explanation of all the different systems! Best video I've watched in a long time breaking something down that only people who care will investigate! Bravo!
@MrCarlsson863 жыл бұрын
I’m new to the off-road and AWD world. And I’m learning so much about it from channel.
@Bird-02 жыл бұрын
The 3rd system seems simple enough to implement on basically any FWD vehicle and would add low speed AWD grip along with higher fuel efficiency to basically any commuter vehicle. A lot of "hot hatch" enthusiasts would LOVE this tech found in some entry level commuter cars with deep enthusiast communities. For Toyota, it'd be an awesome addition to a Yaris or Corolla. No? It'd be such a good combination of practicality with a touch of fun/performance!
@ryantaylor65305 жыл бұрын
I still far prefer the always-on AWD of Subaru's. I would prefer to have a slight penalty to my MPG for the piece of mind of knowing that AWD system is working for me 100% of the time.
@normt54635 жыл бұрын
"...70 percent of new Subaru vehicles are now the object of recalls or service campaigns within two years of being purchased, noting that the “permissible limit” should be around 10 percent." www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2019/06/report-outlines-how-subaru-is-coping-with-quality-control-issues/
@pedlpower5 жыл бұрын
Agree. I want an AWD system that works without having to adjust a knob. Subaru still has the best AWD.
@carlauditts85144 жыл бұрын
Norm T we have 2 cars in 4 years from Subaru, no mayor recalls. Same bs as other brands.
@timlor17892 жыл бұрын
If your gonna trade gas for awd performance you minus well just get a 4runner. At least that's real and has a low range.
@ryantaylor65302 жыл бұрын
@@timlor1789 if you want proper offroading then sure but for me personally it just about that extra piece of mind always on 4wd gives me when I am in the car with the kids and it is bucketing down outside.
@nathanriddle41902 жыл бұрын
I have the 2019 rav4 hybrid, and I think it's definitely the most advanced awd, it is about 85% as good as the 4x4 on my f150 so not bad
@MyShinobiWay6175 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy this video explained how the AWD in the Hybrid works.
@M340B585 жыл бұрын
Fantastic review! Love the real world tests and the breakdown of the various systems!
@c.j.philibosian80314 жыл бұрын
This is the reason why I bought Subaru Outback. Thanks for this video.
@BobBob-db2xq4 күн бұрын
Didn't your subaru come with a cvt
@BobBob-db2xq4 күн бұрын
I actually was looking at subaru but transmission killed the deal
@rodneyfung98212 жыл бұрын
Love the research on this! Personally don't care too much what Toyota officially says. They're just using your platform to market themselves. I'm more focused on what your thoughts are, how you feel driving the car and your perspective.
@benbowman78184 жыл бұрын
solid questioning. And great pointing out that the RAV4's rear wheels don't engage as well as other vehicles. Excellent parallel construction. I don't see many others asking the hard questions and pressing past the auto industry's marketing departments. Intellectually rigorous show.
@rscarawa5 жыл бұрын
Toyota guy slinging crap in his description of the awd.
@JDMHaze5 жыл бұрын
Scot Caraway yes ,, he basically saying it sucks and didnt respong as advertised
@JDMHaze5 жыл бұрын
Scot Caraway he basically told us it didnt perform the way it should've lol
@jeffreywilliamson48633 жыл бұрын
His answers were not very satisfying, that's for sure.
@paulc67475 жыл бұрын
Hmmm, that means Toyota AWD with Torque Vectoring isn't all it cracks up to be :(...
@alexyakuba28055 жыл бұрын
As always one of the best reviews. I wish you had RAV4 Hybrid to test the start and cornering, RAV4 motor on the rear axle is stronger than Prius. I realy wanna see if there is an improvement from the previous model.
@alanyoung1595 жыл бұрын
Yes!!
@kx7kx7825 жыл бұрын
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@zero2sixty2442 жыл бұрын
I recently drove a 21 Hybrid RAV4 in snow and had to frequently use the "trail" mode that acts as a locker with the brakes as it was very FWD biased even when it said it was sending power to the rear. it was either too much, especially in a turn where it would spin the vehicle out or not enough
@alexyakuba28052 жыл бұрын
@@zero2sixty244 Thsnks for the info. Sounds like the idea is there, but there is still work to be done.
@christophercook73795 жыл бұрын
This makes me feel good about my Subaru.
@Offshore19775 жыл бұрын
Love your off road traction reviews
@shanet75115 жыл бұрын
Y'all should test the AWD-I in the 2019 Rav4 hybrid offroad to see how it compares.
@wtfx57575 жыл бұрын
This
@iannowakistheman5 жыл бұрын
Shane T ^this please! I want to buy one if it’s not a total flop
@zero2sixty2445 жыл бұрын
Their electric/hybrid AWD’s aren’t the best but that’s just my personal opinion
@kartboarder22g175 жыл бұрын
He did just od that.
@JDMHaze5 жыл бұрын
probably be WORST
@justsomepleb.83605 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thank you guys! I agree with some of the below commenters, I wish you’d do a 2019 rav4 hybrid video on the trail to test out the “TRAIL” mode.
@space_invader5 жыл бұрын
Would like more info on hybrid AWD in snow. Driving to the chalet every weekend is tricky...I am use to Quattro
@edwardpeters47004 жыл бұрын
I think you just helped Subaru sell a bunch of new Foresters to people who want their AWD system to do something at launch. Sure makes me appreciate the system in my WRX. I'm willing to pay the small fuel economy penalty for traction.
@jeffreywilliamson48633 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. I have a 21 Rav4 XLE and just got my first taste of its performance in snow conditions. I found it to work very well and it did actually seem to power the rears from a hard launch. Since I was inside the car and had no one to observe from outside though I can't say for certain. I am also convinced that the snow mode does not "shut off" at higher speeds as Toyota seems to claim since cycling this mode on and off at highway speeds clearly cause a change in the sound of the drive train. With these systems evolving so quickly I suspect it's quite hard to remain current year to year on exactly how they work. Thanks for a very informative video.
@zero2sixty2443 жыл бұрын
It’s had to of had an upgrade in software since this, I had a 21 XLE AWD and it passed diagonal test with 2 tires in the air. It definitely relies on brakes for traction but when you stay on throttle, it’ll get you the traction you need for the most part. It was pretty good
@thejoseandresshow4 жыл бұрын
Couldn't get the rear wheels to spin in the snow from a launch. I mean, that AWD system is pure marketing.
@Erin-Thor3 жыл бұрын
So… what you’re saying is their AWD system worked, as wheel slippage (loss or traction) is bad. So… NOT pure marketing dribble.
@nicolec72903 жыл бұрын
& from what I have read it turns off at 25 mph. So anything over that your running fwd. not good
@Sunday-gf6sq5 жыл бұрын
The best car reviews ever.
@atlan525 жыл бұрын
I'm not convinced with the launch tests or low traction tests. It looked as if the AWD system were behaving correctly. Sending too much power to the rear at launch under slippery conditions can cause an over-steer situation and subsequent loss of control if the driver is inexperienced or too slow to react. The way I see it, these AWD systems by Toyota were designed to be as safe as possible, not fun as possible. The AWD system is there to assist the front wheels and its main objective is to maintain control of the vehicle, not create an engaging driving experience. Because these AWD systems are reactive, and not proactive, rear wheel slip may simply not be on the agenda.
@drivingsports5 жыл бұрын
One thing a RAV4 will never do is torque steer from a stop. Just doesn’t have enough power for that to be a concern. 😂
@philipfreire4 жыл бұрын
Driving Sports TV let me introduce you to the Rav4 Prime 😂
@BrendanPJames5 жыл бұрын
I have an old Highlander hybrid and the system always kicks in the rear electric motors when flooring it from a stop for max traction and acceleration. I much prefer it to the standard AWD system.
@mqayyum92265 жыл бұрын
so in this setup when a car is driven electric only it is only RWD?
@BrendanPJames5 жыл бұрын
no, there's an electric motor in the front too. my older highlander hybrid can't drive on full electric but the newer ones the front electric motor would be doing most of the work
@STohme4 жыл бұрын
Excellent analysis of the all wheel drive systems available on RAV 4 and Prius. These systems are part time AWD less sophisticated than what Toyota provides on its Land Cruiser series with central (Torsen) mechanical differential and locking capabilities of the rear differential. The video is very interesting with excellent explanations. Many thanks.
@hereigoagain50505 жыл бұрын
Great video. Kudos to Toyota on their new RAV4: its come a long way from its tall-Tercel roots. I worry that Toyota is chasing down too many paths instead of making one great AWD.
@subazealand91585 жыл бұрын
I recently took the new Adventure off road. The new system its an improve, but still is a FWD feeling as shown in this video. And the engine is too noise when you accelerate hard, doesn't feel much powerful than new Forester, and departing angles and approach, are I think worst than previous gen. I would go for the Forester in this segment for better off road and comfort use.
@francismaceachern34005 жыл бұрын
Aril 25/19. The Rav4 Adventure or Trail in Canada has a engineering defect, it does not have a soundproofing pad under the hood, Toyota is floating a solution: $485.00- plus tax (Canadian) for the snap-in pad. A ton of complaints.
@NahBra_EUC2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this!! It has been on my mind a lot lately to find out the variations of AWD systems.
@ibiza19825 жыл бұрын
Yeah, looks like the rear wheels are not engaging... buuut, you should test it on rollers to see if it can move with traction for 1-2-3 wheels. That's how other channels test AWD... the fact that the rear wheels do not leave a mark on gravel does not necessarily mean that they don't get power, just that they don't break contact. Do it the right way, please
@gieslebt5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I agree that doesn't mean there was no power sent to the rear wheels. It might have thrown 30% of the power to the rear wheels and started the vehicle moving without slip in the rear.
@captainjack68905 жыл бұрын
I disagree. He clearly provided a visual comparison with a Santa Fe, Subaru, and Mercedes to show how their awd systems responded. Testing the awd system in a manner different from other channels is not a demerit, its actually a plus.
@ibiza19825 жыл бұрын
@@captainjack6890 yeah, right. They should test on asphalt... if the wheels don't slip, no power is going there. You need something with little to no friction at all, like ice or rollers. Dirt is not it...
@captainjack68905 жыл бұрын
@@ibiza1982 You clearly didnt watch the video. He tested it on snow, dirt and asphalt. The latter two had loose surfaces, hence poor traction conditions. I am not knocking channels who use rollers an inclines in a parking garage to SIMULATE offroad conditions. I am saying kudos to him for not doing what everybody else is doing but actually taking the vehicle to places similar to where we the consumers will actually be driving it. Have you ever driven on a roller on your way to camping? But I am pretty sure you must have driven in loose dirt or probably snow.
@ibiza19825 жыл бұрын
@@captainjack6890 you clearly don't understand my point: if you want to test and compare awd, you need identical situations with near zero friction on 1, 2 and 3 wheels to really see where the torque is going. Testing on gravel and snow is nearly useless and almost waste of time, first because there still is some friction and is the engine is not too powerful it will not spin the wheels and second because conditions can vary a lot from day to day and in different places (you know soft vs hard snow, etc.).
@ericpullen37175 жыл бұрын
13:47 Powering, powering, powering into oblivion 😂😂😂😂 you gotta love this guy
@HockeySavants5 жыл бұрын
8:35 "this AWD ain't for the best, their reputation's never been worse"
@JDMHaze5 жыл бұрын
Octavio Guzman lmaoo ikr
@MrJt34515 жыл бұрын
all i no is i tested a new rav limited in deep ass snow ans ice roads and it was awesome. engine louder than I like but it handled perfectly and was awesome in snow
@willb92595 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's what I bought it for, snow and gravel roads
@davidarnovitz6284 жыл бұрын
Exactly. They system works. Just look at the graphic display. My rear wheels on my 2019 HL almost always show some rear wheel power when on the gas.
@woolengrappler5 жыл бұрын
Subaru definitely has the car and CUV systems figured out. Toyota AWD aka full time 4WD systems that really shine are the torsen center diffs on the land cruiser, 4Runner Limited, Lexus GX460 and LX570. All those vehicles have hi and lo 4wd, torsen center diffs, automatic gear boxes, etc.
@Sirgromulus5 жыл бұрын
Exactly! These vehicles are in an entirely different class however.
@MikePowlas Жыл бұрын
RAV4 is great as well.
@CValescot12255 жыл бұрын
Toyota has significantly dropped the ball for years now with cheaper parts and bs marketing all while raising the prices on their cars. People only continue to buy Toyota’s simply because of the name and I know because I used to work for them. It won’t be long before automakers like Kia/Hyundai take over when it comes to quality and durability. They’re already winning when it comes to value. Anyway great video. Love you’re reviews and breakdowns. Keep it up.
@thehayman73525 жыл бұрын
Yep I'm dissapointed. unfortunetely thise brands dont sell a competitor to the 4runner so I will have to go to an even shittier brand, jeep.
@thehayman73525 жыл бұрын
@davidrx795 true, I heavily dislike jeep, for many reasons (fiat, reliability, ect) but if that's the only way I can get a true offroader it will have to do. I'm really praying that the next gen 4runner is just as good as the 5th
@richardwernst5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic review, thank you for not just parroting the manufacturer's (marketing?) statements.
@Buc_Stops_Here Жыл бұрын
His tests show the fault of the Toyota systems. With their limited rear power on launch it is very limited until the rear wheels do anything to help move forward. The Subaru system has shown shows it works much better in slick conditions because it truly provides power to all four wheels. Still, the Toyota system is good enough to climb our 600 foot mountain to get home (15 percent climb). It just does not work as well as Subaru and other AWD systems that are true AWD. This demo is much appreciated.
@LeeGovender007 Жыл бұрын
Excellent Vehicle review, I like the technical aspect of the review that’s a big bonus when it comes to buying a vehicle and I really appreciate the interesting content as well as different terrain. Good job guys
@kolt9051 Жыл бұрын
This video was better than expected. I usually only watch Alex on Auto's channel. I will be checking out more of your content!
@bastiontec55722 жыл бұрын
Honda i-VTM can sent upto 70% power to rear wheels when needed and works very well in off road conditions.
@sgirard19845 жыл бұрын
Looking forward for more serious tests with the new hybrid RAV4 and see how it compares to a Forester. Is there a limitation of speed like on the Prius AWD?
@MikePowlas Жыл бұрын
I love taking my 2020 RAV4 on the NC beaches & AZ rocky hils. It has had no prolem of doing a great job. It just works. When I am in sand on the beach all 4 wheels spin from the start. So they must have fixed that problem. @11:00 Yes and I have. That is what a RAV4 is made for off-road. Anyone that says no is not a true RAV4 driver or owner.
@simrandhaliwal819510 ай бұрын
what trim rav 4 do you have?
@echewi35065 жыл бұрын
After watching a few of your videos, I started to enjoy your reviews. Keep up with the good work!
@keithcabrera20125 жыл бұрын
Would you have a video similar to this to compare the AWD on the 2019 Subaru Forester? Your channel has amazing videos!!! Keep up the amazing work!
@JDMHaze5 жыл бұрын
Keith Cabrera nahh not necessary,, subaru is proven without question
@healthyamerican5 жыл бұрын
early 2000`s rav4 was real all wheel drive...then later they were part time up to 25 miles per hour..now they are only all wheel drive on paper
@HyperXism5 жыл бұрын
First channel that is honest! I always thought the brake attenuating systems that toyota puts out are horrible. My Tundra would always get hot on brakes and give me all kinds of messages.
@juliecats8124 жыл бұрын
Subaru's AWD rocks! Great video!
@francismaceachern34005 жыл бұрын
As I commented below, the 2019 Rav4 Trail (in Canada) has a cheap out defect: there is no soundproofing pad under the hood resulting in a noisy interior cab, Toyota is aware of the complaints. They recently floated a solution for the 2019 owners: $485.00 plus tax (Canadian) for the pad. Instulation extra? April 25/19
@studio4life15 жыл бұрын
how's the noise level after the pad installation ? I am looking into Rav4 Trail...
@SC-hp9sy5 жыл бұрын
Francis, any updates...did you get it done..did it make a difference?
@AD281972 жыл бұрын
From my experience, less slippage and more traction is what you want when off roading in either Awds or traditional 4wds
@RobHTech3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vid. Basically, Toyota doesn't make a real AWD system. Toyota makes a 4WD system, but markets it as an AWD system in that it is a part-time AWD system. It's not like Toyota to try and pull some trickery to get buyers, until recently. Except that in the Toyota 4WD, the ECU is doing the switching, unless it's a 4runner, etc. I've seen test after test relating to this issue, and Toyota personnel always have a BS reason. The reason I have an '03 Rav4 is because my wife bought it, it keeps running despite me flooring it everyday, is cheap and easy to fix: Simply, reliable.
@keponen331 Жыл бұрын
2003 actually has the last real full time awd system
@fareszxc2 жыл бұрын
One of the best informative videos out there! Thank you sir
@satanicmonkey6665 жыл бұрын
This is great. In process of buying a car, this was very helpful.
@carlauditts85144 жыл бұрын
What did you end up buying?
@satanicmonkey6664 жыл бұрын
@@carlauditts8514 Hyundai santa fe. I liked the interior slightly more.
@carlauditts85144 жыл бұрын
Erick Estrada oh ok cool. no issues so far ? It is a quiet ride ? No road or wind noises? I’ve never own Hyundai brand and I might consider to get a Santa Fe 2021 with 2.4 engine 4 cylinder. I heard that you get lots of value / features for the price .
@satanicmonkey6664 жыл бұрын
@@carlauditts8514 No issues since I bought it. Never thought to myself that it was loud while driving. I recommend to make sure the one you get has android auto and apple carplay, very convenient for driving.
@carlauditts85144 жыл бұрын
Erick Estrada thank you so much for sharing . I love Subaru Forester and I’m thinking to get one in 2021 but I’m considering hybrid Highlander ( I dislike a bunch of stuff of the Highlander). I’ll check out the Santa Fe 2021 before I made a decision.
@stevendphoto5 жыл бұрын
Great review, I'm sure glad I switched away from the RAV4 and went with an AWD Honda Passport. The Honda AWD works awesome and sends up to 70% of the power to the rear wheels!
@normt54635 жыл бұрын
The GM Twin Clutch found on most FWD based GM SUVs offer similar torque vectoring AWD that can 100% to a single wheel while the other three slip. But the Honda version doesn't allow disengagement so the fuel economy suffers.
@janmabaquiao27085 жыл бұрын
Wow this video is very helpful.... Im buying a Subaru
@ninjazzrhythm4005 жыл бұрын
Good luck with their engine problems
@normt54635 жыл бұрын
@@ninjazzrhythm400 ...and CVT!
@ninjazzrhythm4005 жыл бұрын
@@normt5463 yeah, me and wife looking at the add the other day and we were wondering why the 2017 Forrester was only 16k and she wanted to buy it. Then i looked up the car history and it has transmission problems. I changed her mind real quick and save me from getting more headaches😢
@normt54635 жыл бұрын
@@ninjazzrhythm400 smart move!
@garywillis87375 жыл бұрын
NinJazz Rhythm Totally. Every Subaru ever manufactured have Engine problems, just like every RAV4 AWD system suck balls. I am buying a bicycle!
@ryancumberbatch16044 жыл бұрын
Great review...the only thing fake about it is the smile from the guy from Toyota.
@stevec35265 жыл бұрын
A Merkur XR4Ti t-shirt! I used to own 3 of them. They were great cars.
@carlnilssonyoung89613 жыл бұрын
This is absolutely a fantastic episode
@boostedmaniac5 жыл бұрын
Please put these new Toyota / Honda AWD systems on rollers. I’d love to see how they transfer power. Thanks.
@4x4.tests.on.rollers5 жыл бұрын
I just tested on rollers new CR-V, petrol and hybrid versions. I didn't test new Rav4 Hybrid, but previous was really bad.
@aanttila8673 жыл бұрын
What u really need is a LC150/200/300 torsen style 4x4 with lower gearing. Most important thing is that they dont say "too hot" after a mile offroading...
@cks9935 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your professional and scientific tests on those AWD system!
@edb.83885 жыл бұрын
Very informative, I'm not so sure those systems are that great. Snow is the biggest concern in my area and I've got hills. These systems seem inadequate for heavy snow where rear torque is a must have feature.
@drivingsports5 жыл бұрын
On the upside, they do also make the 4Runner. If I lived in the snowbelt that’s what I’d own. -RD
@edb.83885 жыл бұрын
Driving Sports TV indeed...
@edb.83885 жыл бұрын
Driving Sports TV Thanks, how does Hyundai’s Htrac compare? I was also considering the Telluride because I’m looking for 3 rows.
@afcgeo8825 жыл бұрын
Why not test a Rav4 Hybrid for comparison? That’s really the only questionable system.
@drivingsports5 жыл бұрын
We don’t have access to one on the schedule yet. When we do get it (in a couple months, probably) we’ll be taking it on the same trails.
@afcgeo8825 жыл бұрын
Driving Sports TV thank you! Looking forward to seeing such an inventive system’s real world performance. Too bad there’s no snow anymore.
@pierrecyr71775 жыл бұрын
@@drivingsports It will be really interesting to see the awd hybrid version with the same type of test that you have done. Very good video, the best I have found on the awd systems of the new rav4 ! Thanks !
@nanawsaba12585 жыл бұрын
@Driving Sports TV It will be really interesting to see the awd hybrid version with the same type of test that you have done. Very good video, the best I have found on the awd systems of the new rav4 ! Thanks !
@valdius855 жыл бұрын
@@drivingsports yes, that would be great. I am looking for a hybrid AWD vehicle: RAV4, CR-V and Outlander PHEV are my options. Forester has a chain CVT in its hybrid so is out of the race ;) The SUV will be used in Japanese mountains - no off road but definitely one wheel will loose 100% of its traction every now and again. I would love to see CR-V AWD system on your channel - I do understand it will not be hybrid.
@ricksanchez79993 жыл бұрын
Lift kit + bigger tires = love
@puregameplay79165 жыл бұрын
love how none of these are as good as a subaru's AWD system, they also happen to get much higher mpg.
@AlexandarHullRichter5 жыл бұрын
What it looked like to me, when you said there was no torque to the rear wheels, is that the rear wheels actually got the car moving without wheelspin while the front wheels were still spinning. Anybody else see that?
@deletethisaccountmofos5 жыл бұрын
This. Can. Be. Was thinking the same, since weight is shifted to the back a bit, meaning rear wheels would have more traction ... or?
@normt54635 жыл бұрын
If the rears DI not spin on gravel they might never spin on anything else.
@AlexandarHullRichter5 жыл бұрын
@@normt5463 why should the rear wheels spin if they can get the car moving without spinning?
@normt54635 жыл бұрын
@@AlexandarHullRichter if on a loose surface material like gravel it would display how the torwue.is proportioned in this test. You are correct that the best tire grip is right at the limits of adhesion or threshold of grip. The vehicle may just not have enough torque to create rear wheel slippage.
@michaelevans6915 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, thanks! Wow, that rep from Toyota needs to stay hidden in the board room.
@ricepony333 жыл бұрын
Full time awd in the Subarus feels so much better in the rain and really all conditions. When you let off the gas all 4 wheels are still engaged.
@leochen48913 жыл бұрын
like your honesty and spirit to dig to the bottom. Nice review.
@ENJOYWATCHING4075 жыл бұрын
Please consider doing the all new Mazda 3 with AWD! Fantastic video as always!
@drivingsports5 жыл бұрын
We have a request in for the Mazda3 AWD Hatch.
@ENJOYWATCHING4075 жыл бұрын
Driving Sports TV Wonderful! Thx!
@bsanchez094 жыл бұрын
The best review ever!!
@danf15235 жыл бұрын
After testing the 2019 RAV4 and 2019 Forester, which AWD system do you prefer? Which one feels more capable while off road?
@TheNcmore3 жыл бұрын
In a 2019 Rav-4 hybrid, does the electronic-only "intelligent" linkage between front and rear axles mean if you have a flat on e.g. left rear tire, you only need to replace both rear tires for adequate match, or do you still have to replace all four tires (as in conventional awd) to avoid excessively stressing the transmission?
@techshark74775 жыл бұрын
This worth to purchase them! Reliable vehicles! 👍👍👍
@ahmaddhooma9203 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the great video! It’s the best explanation of the AWD for Toyota that I’ve come across so far. I was hoping someone can pitch in and help me answer something. I’m on the fence about purchasing an XLE Premium package (standard AWD) or a Limited trim (Dynamic Torque Vectoring AWD) RAV4. I live in Canada and we get quite a bit of snow. This AWD is my primary deciding factor between the two trims, and the difference in price between the two trims is roughly $4000. If the Dynamic Torque Vectoring AWD on the Limited trim is worth it and will make that much of a noticeable difference in the snow I’m willing to shell out the money for it, but if the difference is negligible I’d rather go with the XLE Premium package and save some money. Thank you in advance for any help!
@drivingsports3 жыл бұрын
I would say the difference between the two is minor in practice. The "next step up" from the standard RAV4 system in Toyota's lineup is to go with a truck-based auto-4WD setup like in the 4Runner Limited or Land Cruiser.
@ahmaddhooma9203 жыл бұрын
@@drivingsports thank you so much for the reply, I really appreciate it! This absolutely helps in my decision making process. Please keep up with the great videos!
@Maverick55885 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. Really glad you did this testing
@paulfortman58345 жыл бұрын
I'll stick with an LE FWD. My FWD Corolla goes anywhere I ask it, the RAV4 FWD should do fine.
@Kiss__Kiss5 жыл бұрын
Driving Sports TV aka Ryan, I'm loving your XR4Ti/ Sierra Cosworth Tshirt!!!
@24hourgmtchannel643 жыл бұрын
I service our cars and we tend to keep them for over a decade so I'd prefer FWD over AWD. You save when buying and get better fuel economy with less weight and less wear parts.
@MrAjay32345 жыл бұрын
great video indeed! I really hope you guys would do one on the new 2020 Highlander as that car is on the top of my list. many thanks in advance
@normt54635 жыл бұрын
Why would you put a vehicle on your list that you know nothing about? We do know Toyota made micro improvements to the Hybrid RAV4 but in the end it came up smaller and did t place well on a cars.com comparison. Which is typical average Toyota resting on it's laurels.
@shadowdaycars5 жыл бұрын
Wow Great video, can you test another's brands to see the difference between AWD systems. Thank you
@dawn-moon5 жыл бұрын
OMG that Toyota dude is always ending with this big fake smile on his face. Has he been brainwashed ?
@tammyeaton47912 жыл бұрын
At end of the day, he’s just here to push his product.
@daniyar_ala2 жыл бұрын
Nice guy
@brianlamb36594 жыл бұрын
Great Video and super informative! Nice work!
@ravisookdeo86185 жыл бұрын
As long it gets you out of the situation is what matters!
@manix17033 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Very good test. Greetings from Poland :)
@cjoe69083 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for this interesting review. I am planning to get one of these cars and the review is good for me to learn about its limitations. I normally don't do offroading. I crive around town and between towns, but there are trails in China and some roads are not paved. And occasionally I may venture out into the suburb area for camping or bird photography (not a very serious hobby). So I reckon the hybrid Rav4 may be quite OK for my purposes. The space, the price, and its limited offroading capabilities look decent to me.
@adasmith71414 жыл бұрын
Excellent review 🙌🙌
@Noypi544943 жыл бұрын
2021 HH Platinum awd doing well in Upper Midwest snow/ice/slush. I drove one month on the OEM Bridgestone Alenza Sport and they did surprisingly well thanks in part to the AWD-I. Trail mode is great when you want more traction. Our previous 2013 HH Limited awd-I was not a great winter driver until I got pure snow tires on it. I put 150k miles on that 2013 and it was so reliable and I still got $11,000 on the trade in. I wanted a far superior winter handling and still use as a summer tire so I went with an all-weather tire: Nokian WRG4 SUVs on the 2021. These Highlanders are built safe(got T-boned by silverado and hit deer), reliable, efficient, and hold their resale value well.
@jessehansen21615 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to drive the new 2014 rav4 adventure
@discgolfamateur2175 Жыл бұрын
I got the 2022 Rav4 Prime. If i turn off ASC and all the other joy killers, I can get into a 4 wheel slide while turning and applying throttle on a super icy road. The rear motor (electric) is only rated at 53hp and there is simply not enough juice to put it into a slide if the grip is "too good" for the back tires. Sofar based on my own experience, it is a good enough AWD system for urban people, launching from traffic lights during winter time is no issue what so ever. Going through deep snow (for a city) is also no issue (if you have proper tires) even though you're "plowing" through the snow. Is it as fun as an Audi UR Quattro..? Hell no - but it gets the job done.
@Joe-cu4hi5 жыл бұрын
We want a V6 RAV4! It’s too big and too heavy for a 2.5 4 cylinder engine
@willb92595 жыл бұрын
I've had my XSE for a few weeks now and even with only the 4 cylinder engine (plus the 2 electric motors), the vehicle has all the horse power it needs while still getting over 40 mpg.
@JDMHaze5 жыл бұрын
Will B hybrid is 2 secs faster than the 4cyl you cant compare hybrid drivetrain to a gas version,,
@bob154794 жыл бұрын
@@willb9259 yep toyota hybrid suvs are beasts
@rabeahkarram96895 жыл бұрын
More great awd content keep going brother :)
@radumi53943 жыл бұрын
Thanks, great overview, really helped me. I tried 2.5L, 8 speed auto, Adventure, was good, passes diagonal test flawlessly (left front wheel in air, the other on gravel) but the 2.5L, 8 speed auto, GXL AWD did well too so GXL AWD is my choice that also gets full size spare wheel; isn't strange that Adventure has space saver spare wheel for bigger trunk? I'd say since greater off-road capability / full torque vectoring you better have full size spare wheel if you go on rocky trail. However RAV 4 only flaw for me is handling, body roll can be tricky while you are not yet aware how it feels - if you get one make sure you get used with its handling in tight corners at speed. Otherwise I really like RAV 4 e.g. the D-4S injection make sense and on GXL AWD the MPG is good too.
@jtomtl4 жыл бұрын
Damn, benz nailed the AWD, but the price is also nailed it, sky high price for that S model
@justabrake5 жыл бұрын
I really liked the way the Hyundai took off but the gas mileage isn't as good as a Toyotas Rav4's
@NiNjaTurtLe6974 жыл бұрын
i was like waT - no way.. TYPETTYPETYPE, google loads, EW-NAH.
@caroad20084 жыл бұрын
These are 3 additional reasons that I am still holding onto my 1994 Montero for the real 4WD with diff lock.