Academia Tries to Silence Renowned Professor after Exposing Huge Problems in Origin of Life Field

[@Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom]

This is awesome! Was such a pleasure talking with you Dr. Tour!

[@yourheinness9275]

My man! Your questions where great and done in such a great way. Let’s all pray for dr. Tour!! Start a prayer chain that reaches up to heaven. Ask God to bless dr.Tour and make him like bezalel in the bible.

[@celestialsatheist1535]

I see you getting very impressive amount of traffic lately. Heres pro advice if you want to keep it that way. Keep feeding them what they want

[@thomasjane4167]

​@@celestialsatheist1535 You're a nobody, move along.

[@derekallen4568]

Lol. "I don't understand it, therefore no one else understands it." What an arrogant position to take.

[@derekallen4568]

@@thomasjane4167 😄 I like your sense of humor, but that's exactly what he says. I can find the time stamp, if you want. I'm not merican, so I don't have a Walmart in my country, so stacking shelves there isn't an option.

[@Rholfy]

Dear Dr. Tour, I am a chemist and also a Christian, I greatly admire your work and your message of faith. I greet you with much affection from Peru 🤗🇵🇪

[@l.m.892]

Greetings to Peru from USA.

[@Rholfy]

@@l.m.892 🤗🇵🇪

[@hisnameisiam808]

Hello brother or sister!

[@Rholfy]

@@hisnameisiam808 hi, I'm a brother 😊

[@bryant475]

Nice! I'm a Christian, and biochemistry researcher, health coach, future physician! Learning the intricacies of science further strengthens my faith and appreciation of God's amazing handiwork! God bless you and your family!

[@lv4077]

I’m a retired physician, studying bio, chemistry and human physiology made me realize how impossibly complex all life forms are. If you understand what it takes to make even a single enzyme and how it has to be Stereo chemically perfect in design you have to start wondering how on earth did this ever happen, we couldn’t even design it much less make it , it’s mind-boggling

[@forrest7050]

About as mind boggling as a time period of around 4 billion years which was required to reach that point of min boggling complexity.

[@mks1621]

@@forrest7050 A long time in itself doesn't make anything. In fact long times make downhill devolution. Over a long time bears have diversified into different regions. Downhill change. Genetic load builds up in every generation.

[@DJJAW11]

... Intervention of a higher technically superior ,more advanced intelligence etc.

[@lv4077]

@@mks1621 You’re describing very general useful,vast majority of mutations are deleterious,mutations that lead to small phenotypic changes in similar species.That doesn’t begin to explain the enormous complexity of plant and animal life on earth.

[@mks1621]

@@lv4077 agreed

[@mrmarcioconte]

The history shall Record you as the most courageous, honest and truthful scientist of your generation

[@michaelbrickley2443]

I don’t think I’d go that far because I know of many scientists who are very upfront about Who their God is. He is a man I admire, that’s for sure, for his open stance about being a disciple of Christ Jesus. I’m not criticizing your opinion, either. Shalom

[@ACuriousChild]

@@michaelbrickley2443 This sort of superlatives of the OP are exactly the other side of THE IDOL WORSHIP - commonly also known as THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN - that contribute equally to the confusion!

[@conspiracy1914]

and just like history with hitler they can paint you in an evil way too if they want

[@ACuriousChild]

@@josemoody1743 Being ALWAYS grateful in the most humble way sounds even more sound to me.... otherwise I totally agree!

[@ACuriousChild]

@@josemoody1743 Thank you for your reply.... ABSOLUTELY as far as I can see, which is one faction being led astray by THE SYNAGOGUE OF LIES ... of which (factions) there are innumerable, depending how one dissects them but in the final analysis they all worship BAAL ... without realising it or even more blinded believing to do GOD ALMIGHTY'S work and funny enough thereby fulfilling GOD ALMIGHTY'S PROPHECY ... just not in the way they "see" it!

[@juliuslehtinen1210]

Jesus said . “If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first." Keep strong my dear brothers and don't stop being a voice of truth in a world where truth is being pushed aside.

[@noelburke6224]

What has this got to do with religion

[@stevemitz4740]

@@noelburke6224 What's your question got to do with logic?

[@garycarpenter4171]

@noelburke6224 what does the origin of life have to do with how we live our lives? If you believe everything came from nothing, then the answer to your question would be 'absolutely nothing.' But if you conclude that "something" created everything, and since you are a part of that 'everything,' then the answer to your question is "absolutely everything."

[@jerrylong6238]

Jesus is as make-believe as Mickey Mouse.

[@mariabarnes9197]

@jerrylong6238 There is historical non-biblical evidence for the birth, life, & death of Jesus Christ. There are eyewitness accounts of non-followers of Jesus as well as followers who saw a resurrected Jesus. The evidence is there if you wish to read it.

[@SeánMacCùUladh]

Thank you Dr. Tour for standing up for the truth. As a pharmacist I see science information manipulated everyday for some to make a great deal of money. Many practitioners today just do what they’re told without using their knowledge of science to heal patients, it’s more about selling drugs. The oxycodone problem is a perfect example of how low some companies will go to make money.

[@robiny.4395]

Don’t forget IVM and HCQ! So many people died due to a lie,one the FDA was recently sued for. Yet insurance companies and some pharmacies based on this lie, refuse to fill these scripts and come between a doctor and their patient. I hope there will be more litigation and perhaps a class action lawsuit.

[@LRRPFco52]

The medical field is one of the most confirmation-bias conformist cultures I've ever seen, mainly because people don't want to lose their source of income after investing so much time and effort into their academic qualifications. People become insular and religious about what is taught in academia, with no scientific methodology to back it.

[@bryant475]

Thank God for docs like Dr. Joel Fuhrman, Dr. Michael Greger, Dr. Neal Barnard, Dr. Brooke Goldner, Dr. Saray Stancic, etc., who help people heal, with Nutrition/Lifestyle, and not relying on pharma drugs! Check them out :)

[@allanyork244]

Corporations in collaboration with National Governments rule the Capitalist World.Competition no longer exists Profit makes the agenda and science is a new religion where people believe uncritically. Anyone who exposes this truth has to be cancelled to keep the rest in line .Universties are now the Masters of double speak and deception

[@weltschmerzistofthaufig2440]

​@@LRRPFco52 Who said that there was no scientific backing?

[@HiFatherElisha]

I've recently discovered you, Dr. James Tour, and I'm cheering you on with all my heart. Thank you for unveiling the current state of the origin of life research. For me, what really makes you stand out is that you don't go down to the level of those who attack you, but you remain professional and reflect the commandments of Jesus. Not sure how many Orthodox Christian monks you've met, but I'm at least one that support your mission. Praying for you often.

[@dross4207]

He lies about the current state of OOL research and has been called out and had it pointed out. I don’t know how it can be seen as “professionalism” to deny and misrepresent science and replace it with wizardry.

[@HiFatherElisha]

@@dross4207 I understand where you’re coming from and how you feel, brother. What I appreciate with Dr. James Tour is that he encourages everyone that disagree with him to point out where he’s wrong, but with the condition of citing papers and scientific data. That is what it means to be professional, if you’d ask me. Some people just get angry and “argue” with personal attacks. Forgive me for saying this, but that is what we do in kindergarten-the person disqualifies himself and cannot be taken seriously.

[@stevemitz4740]

@@dross4207 How "professional" is it to believe in magic lightning bolts hitting the premortal swamp and creating complex symbiotic life, all just in time to feed other hungery life forms! I wonder if that's why professional Albert Einstein believed in a Creator god! How un-professional was he, not warship at your religious, faith based alter of magic evolution, Right? And you talk about liar's & science? Come on!

[@dross4207]

@@stevemitz4740 For one thing, Albert Einstein was an atheist, and it’s rather pathetic that theists quote mine and misrepresent what he said. Regardless, what someone believes is irrelevant to what is true. Smart people are capable of believing silly things. I’m not sure if you’re aware, but evolution states nothing about the origins of life. It appears that the entire breadth of your scientific understanding has came from YEC conmen and the nonsense that they preach. Evolution is a fact of reality, so if you want to deny it, it only makes you a reality denier. Abiogenesis is just a hypothetis, and no one is claiming that it’s the definitive explanation for the origin of life. On a side note, yes, lightning hitting a pool of water is way more plausible and rational than saying that a floating wizard did it.

[@shaneinan7797]

@@dross4207what did he misrepresent?

[@ricardofolive]

Dr. James Tour is a superb Scientist! May God bless him all days of his life

[@Thesecondcomingpodcast]

This is just another case of James tour grandstanding. They don’t want to hear proof matter of fact, what they do is they take the proof claim it is their own and hide it. They stay with an a small peer group of who they already know is wrong so they can always appear to be right.

[@michaeld9682]

​@Thesecondcomingpodcast who is "they?"

[@bigtxsdude]

⁠A simple challenge to 10 of the Top atheist scientists, what’s grandstanding about that ….??? Seems to me, he’s opened himself up to be discredited, that takes brass balls…..

[@Thesecondcomingpodcast]

@@bigtxsdude lol…10 of the people HE CHOSES

[@Thesecondcomingpodcast]

@@michaeld9682 “peer group”

[@Indorm]

About two weeks ago I googled 'Has life been created in a lab?' and the answer was Yes, and some scientist's name connected to it. I checked it again today, and now the answer has changed: scientists can create a 'synthetic cell that grows and divides normally.' Keep fighting to eradicate the lies, dr. Tour.

[@bigtxsdude]

ask those scientists where did they get the “tools” to do the experiment….hmmmm???

[@Pysoktus]

I had to search for that question to read too. They didn't actually create life. They took a cell and destroyed the DNA and then replaced it with a man made one. Google has really turned to a pile of 💩

[@stellarspacetraveler]

Not true. They altered the DNA in the already living, created cell. They did not create the entire organism from scratch. Altering the DNA is easy to do: The redesigned genetic code was then chemically synthesized and, piece by piece, added to E coli where it replaced the organism’s natural genome. The result, reported in Nature, is a microbe with a completely synthetic and radically altered DNA code.

[@pyropulseIXXI]

they cannot create synthetic cells either. They just take pre-existing cells and life and 'modify' them, then call it 'synthetic cell'

[@robertramsey653]

​@@pyropulseIXXIthanks for putting that out there. I would have had to take them at their word. There is a lot of intellectual dishonesty going on in the science world, and its because they hate the idea of having to answer to GOD. I guess that's too bad for them, because they are going to answer to HIM whether they want to or not.

[@usa2tube]

As a PhD Microbiologist, I applaud Dr. Tour's taking on the "consensus". I was thoroughly indoctrinated into abiogenesis and macro evolution through my Ivy League undergrad education. However, omce God saved me in grad school, I was totally enraged at the scientific facts that were left out of the teaching... all those facts that went against the accepted narrative.

[@johnschuh8616]

Unlike Charles I, Our white elites make no claim to divine right. They are their own gods.

[@Mick0722MX]

Thoroughly indoctrinated about a hypothesis? If you have a PhD, then I'm Santa Claus.

[@princekermit0]

Inconvenient truths are ignored and discarded, because student loans aren't going to pay themselves, and bucking the system is not going to get you a tenured position.

[@danielcristancho3524]

​@@Mick0722MXThat's not the point, Mickey. The point is they can't demonstrate, have never observed, can't measure, can't repeat with experiment ANY OF THEIR BALONEY. If they're really that close, let's see them repeat what brainless forces and chemistry supposedly created billions of years ago.

[@StripedCheeseBread]

Academics teach out if two sides of their mouths. 1)they teach how abiogenesis was disproven and all life comes from pre-existing life. THEN they will tell you the first life originated through abiogenesis, whether on earth or elsewhere. 2)tell you about the scientific methods, then proceed to tell you “facts” without repeated verifiable experiments, especially on principles concerning historical questions rather than scientific ones. When you say Klingon is not a real language, they will just say, “but you are not an expert in Klingon.”

[@ICU2B4UDO]

Dr. Tour is being humble...They CAN'T dismiss him because 1.) He's RIGHT & 2.) He's one of the smartest human beings walking the Earth... 🎤 drop!

[@HiddenView1977]

❤❤❤ How many days left in the challenge!? Thank you for all you do Dr. Tour!!! May God bless you with even more strength and wisdom!!!

[@pgsibilo]

October 23, 2023 is the Due Date. And I hate to say this, but these 10 Scientists will NOT answer even the first question 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ingoditrust7784]

They'll wait till the deadline is reached, then bitch around about having missed the deadline although they were actually able to defeat the challenge.

[@zebra2346]

Critics who say Tour is unqualified to critique OoL research and the science of OoL are completely showing their desperation. I enjoy that Tour throws down this challenge. It really forces the critics to put up or shut up. By the way, I loved Tour in the debate, he just shows a lot of passion for what he's fighting for and that is admirable

[@debravictoria7452]

Except, I don't think they actually shut up. Maybe doubled down, kind of like how they might be doing with C-19.

[@jeffreyheil9542]

That debate was embarrassing for fake professor Dave. Dave simply kept regurgitating headlines and paraphrasing abstracts and conclusions. As Dr Tour knows, much of that is hype. When you analyze the data, it doesn’t align with the headline and conclusion. Biotech degree here. They have no clue how or why nucleotides arrange themselves in the fashion it does to code for proteins.

[@universalflamethrower6342]

Ool research has much in common with research into dark matter, trans matter and black lives matter, it is all total fabricated nonsense. All it ever does is finding the outcomes it desires and avoid any confrontation with reality via debate or testing via the scientific method. We are now dealing with a full blown pagan religion that spans all institutions in The West.

[@somethinsomethin7216]

So an organic chemist, a renowned one at that, can't critique prebiotic chemistry of origin of life.... but only OoL researchers can critique other OoL researchers? Hm convenient...

[@ingoditrust7784]

It's ad hominem, nothing else. Address the critique, not the person critiquing.

[@danblomgren8059]

I stumbled upon Dr. Tour's teachings about 5 years ago, and have been a huge fan ever since. He is utterly brilliant in his knowledge, but still able to talk it down so a layman like me can understand it. I have read several of his books as well, and can't say enough about his love for organic chemistry and God. He is a truly blessed both in his knowledge and his ability to teach it. Truly, a great man!

[@BrotherBrotherMusic-tj9db]

I found him about then too. I was amazed. Rob Stadler and John Sanford are pretty awesome in their own right. Stairway to Life is beautifully done.

[@Barneybriz951]

He's still wrong though ..

[@MichaelHendrix7]

Thank you for being diligent and accountable. I am also listening to your study of the Bible. I shared it with a friend whom is challenged in reading. He said he understood you and appreciated you not making it complicated to understand. Thank you 🙏 ❤

[@s.d.melcher]

What is the title of the book, please, and where can I find it? ✨🙏✨

[@vakudibeardefender3953]

The ability of Dr.Tour to present these things in layman's terms is really good.

[@rjules1083]

Stephen Meyer does a good job of that too. ❤️👍

[@Z4r4sz]

Because he is a layman without having done any research in the fields he constantly rants about. And you people blindly believe him. Sheep.

[@docsavage30]

His ability to ignore whole fields of research is also AWE INSPIRING (but not in a good way).

[@stevemitz4740]

@@docsavage30 Your ability to obfuscate & sling mud is not very INSPIRING, It's sad!

[@Barneybriz951]

Because he's a layman in this field.

[@fredericosilva3640]

Thank you for your effort Dr. Tour. Truth is the real gold.

[@thearmy88ify]

Seems like evolution and creation could be true at the same time?

[@tonymaurice4157]

Abiogenesis fails

[@derekallen4568]

Pseudo science 😂

[@tonymaurice4157]

@@derekallen4568 abiogenesis Doesn't happen in optimal lab environments with pure chemicals and designed equipment.

[@derekallen4568]

@@tonymaurice4157 ok! That means they haven't worked out how life got started. It doesn't mean they never will. There are a lot of things we haven't figured out yet, but there are a lot things we have figured out. Not one explanation has included god. Why is that?

[@aldenvidal]

Thanks for your work Dr. Tour. You are a shining light of truth in the scientific community.

[@mirandahotspring4019]

The scientific community usually regard him as the ranting fool.

[@ianworcester4640]

​@@mirandahotspring4019 The problem with the scientific community is they can't scientifically answer Dr Tour's questions . If the chemical process to origin of life could be scientifically explained , then OK . Saying he is a Ranting Fool does nothing for science .

[@KelliAnnWinkler]

@@mirandahotspring4019 That is their usual tactic when they are confronted with something that challenges their "theories". They don't like challenges.

[@weltschmerzistofthaufig2440]

​@@KelliAnnWinkler Scientists love challenges. It's just that Tour has no idea how OoL researchers actually investigate the matter. His dishonesty is purely based on his religious adherence. Do not compare a dogmatist to a scientist.

[@KelliAnnWinkler]

@@weltschmerzistofthaufig2440 Newsflash... OoL researchers actually have no idea how they investigate the matter. Tour correctly calls them out for their lack of scientific method.

[@FOUNDEDEARTHBROTHERS]

I have been a science teacher for about 15 years and have been the lone creationist in my department every year. Most of the teachers claim to be Christians, but when they teach evolution, they make it a creator. Making change over time a creator is a religion. It's still a form of creationism but it lacks that label and is called science. They dismiss all of the intelligent design aspects as a result of random mutations. I'd love to have a discussion like this with you to expose your work to our humble population of creationists. I have done some work on the missing links and most of the fraudulent work produced by evolutionists, but your challenges are on a different level. Thanks for your work!

[@Finraen]

Have you ever asked them about the absence of any observation of positive, beneficial mutations drastic enough to produce an entirely new genus and that can also be passed down to multiple generations sufficiently to sustain a population of said new genus? I mean, the idea that mutations - the overwhelming majority of which are detrimental - are responsible for the present biodiversity is just intuitively preposterous. Claiming that "billions of years of randomness" fixes it is more of an exercise of faith than any religious explanation I've ever heard. It is not observable, testable, verifiable, etc. therefore it is not science. The gaps between the different genus's in an evolutionary system are larger than the gap between "everything is complicated" and "it must come from the mind of an intelligent being". It has become a religion of its own. Intelligent design isn't provable in a scientific institution either, but as secular institutions can't we just admit we cannot prove anything and that there are multiple conflicting theories that all make great leaps of faith?

[@niklaswikstrom78]

@@Finraen Your personal incredulity means nothing, but it is the bedrock of Intelligent Design, so I understand why you like ID as your model.

[@Finraen]

@@niklaswikstrom78 Ad hominem. Try contributing something.

[@niklaswikstrom78]

@@Finraen Until you understand that personal incredulity is an extremely weak argument, there's nothing to discuss

[@mtman2]

Those so called teacher's as so called Christ follower's- are cowards or imposter's for this cannot work in telling and living a lie = esp to children which Jesus gave the most severe warning and consequences for doing = it deny's Christ's own Words and creates "a stumbling block" for all those children, His warning was for just one child let alone 100's per teacher...! Understanding it is easy IF one actually looks at the facts it's clearly a fallible lie, for the simplest life form is vastly complicated: An amoeba is far more complicated then the entire Space Shuttle Program is a scientific fact that cannot be denied except by those hiding from sincerely taking the time in truly learning these easily uncovered reality's to then teach other's the truth with facts thatccannot be denied...! I did it on my own as 20yr old in an Advanced Evolutionary Course in my College Environmental Study's = I just intuitively mistrusted the "origins story" as obsurd & ridiculous- to then use Probability & Statistical Analysis to debunk it easily...! Tho seems to stump others easily for blindly "going along to get along"...! Moreover Jesus fulfilled over 300 Old Testament[Torah] Prophecy's of His coming, 0urpose and Life which mathematically works out to 1 in 10 to the 1millionth Power: Then there's 2,000 other fulfilled Prophecy's of other events, there's no hiding from the math, the science, eye witness's, nor the Prophecy's....! HOWEVER these truths must be searvhed and seen to know, not ignored merely for a paycheck IF one has a conscience...! This all is many times over far more than enuff info in honest pursuit...!

[@lloydolayvar1641]

Thanks Dr. Tour for courageously and tirelessly explaining OOL to the rest of us. The more that I listen to you the I understand the science involved and tge real state of OOL research.

[@tonycoker6523]

The world needs more Dr James Tour's then we might make some headway on Origin of life .

[@Jesussaves8961]

I love this guy, he is kind and logical! ❤

[@DirkJacobsz]

Shew what a wonderful talk - great questions - great answers - thank you for this Dr Tour.. filled so many gaps for me. Thank you God bless.

[@ahmeddourid4293]

All my deep respect for James Tour.

[@mburrito57939]

41:00 - Professor Walter Veith, originally a zoology professor fron South Africa, had the same experience! His story and reasoning is fantastic & I'm really grateful that other voices are also out there.

[@eagleeye5290]

James. Bless You. May God continue to use you powerfully in the area of science and in every other area. Also thank you for being sincere and vulnerable. I don't condemn you we all have our shortcomings. Keep strong. I pray for you brother.

[@tiffanymagee2700]

You are such an amazing example to follow. Thank you so much Professor Tour!!

[@delo3936]

Always informative. Thank you. The light shines brightly, forever. Cheers

[@MikeSmith-sc5we]

Thank you so much Dr. James Tour, for bringing this out into an open forum and seeking clear answers from those in field of the Origin of Life. I hope they will give honest responses. I also hope that believers will be more encouraging to you. Thank you for being human. Please keep doing what you're doing! I really believe that this is so very important.

[@princessofarchetypes3870]

Thank you Dr. Tour- I love your fresh perspective on things. I am learning so much!!

[@jy7383]

“Science has had an extraordinary success in tracing the chain of cause and effect back-wards in time. For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountain of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the highest rock, he is greeted by a bunch of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries.” Robert Jastrow.

[@marionchase-kleeves8311]

Sounds like something Einstine said.

[@techbro-ke]

The religion of evolution and it's excuses. Theologians are not blocking your research

[@MommaLousKitchen]

@@techbro-ke I think it means the theologians already figured it out the insane complexity, first, and the scientists just got there.

[@PierreLabounty]

I remember that from years ago.

[@Harpazo_to_Yeshua]

At that time Jesus declared, "I praise You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because You have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. Yes, Father, for this was well-pleasing in Your sight." -- Matthew 11:25-26 _Brothers, consider the time of your calling: Not many of you were wise by human standards; not many were powerful; not many were of noble birth. But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong. He chose the lowly and despised things of the world, and the things that are not, to nullify the things that are, so that no one may boast in His presence._ -- 1 Corinthians 1:26-29

[@zwigoma2]

In your universities, if you go to the faculty of information science they will tell you that information can not come from a vacuum, but then you go over to the faculty of biology and they'll tell you YES IT CAN 😂😂😂

[@ingoditrust7784]

Exactly, either you demonstrate how inert matter can give birth to living organisms or you stfu about it.

[@universalflamethrower6342]

In that same faculty they will tell you there is no such thing as a woman

[@avishevin1976]

Do you love your ignorance?

[@zwigoma2]

@@avishevin1976 Enlighten me.

[@avishevin1976]

@@zwigoma2 You believe your own lies. Nothing I say can change that.

[@sammyvh11]

I only have a bachelor degree in Animal Science and I knew this 40 years ago. I love this man

[@poerava]

Is this because you share the same sky daddy?

[@killerbee6484]

Because he used his mind and concluded that nothing can't create the unvirse and life is complex and didn't come from randomness​@@poerava

[@RCChristian-y9g]

Thank YOU SO MUCH James Tour! You and David Berlinski are both my heroes!

[@christophercoughlin9493]

Thank you, Dr. Tour, for being brave enough to stand up to the scientific establishment, basically on behalf of all believers everywhere.

[@sammyvh11]

Rice must be a great university most schools would cut ties with teachers like Dr Tour who think independent from what the accepted books say and can also back it up his evidence.

[@qTions]

I am not sure what is the weight of the research, patents and start-ups with hand of Dr. Tour... I guess he made hard to the university to silent him...

[@debravictoria7452]

Apparently he's making them a lot of money.

[@dorothyhinkel185]

He's not politically correct.

[@Si_Mondo]

​@@dorothyhinkel185Which means he's factually correct...

[@leskobrandon691]

It's sad that we actually expect university's to get rid of free thinking professors. We know how woke thinks & we know they have no time for free thinkers. We now accept this from our universities.

[@beaudidly5347]

God's most amazing child, that this high school drop out like me, has ever had the pleasure of listening to for the last several years. God bless you abundantly James Tour.

[@TheRootedWord]

Great content!1:04 In Botany class at university this happened. The professor was telling that flowers developed organic mechanisms to attract bees to pollinate them. I raised my hand and very respectfully asked him to show me the organic chemistry of the mechanisms' development. He turned beet red and without a word stormed out of the room with the slideshow stuck on that slide. I was a well known leader among the Christian students, but I was asking a rational Scientific question that deserved being asked. He was painting us a fairy tale and I wanted real KNOWN Botany.

[@Mick0722MX]

"He turned beet red and without a word stormed out of the room with the slideshow stuck on that slide." Bullshit.

[@jerryhufnagel5733]

@@Mick0722MX Were you in the class?

[@Mick0722MX]

@jerryhufnagel5733 No, but I went to college and majored in Biology. I've heard bullshit like this before, and it's laughable.

[@jerryhufnagel5733]

@@Mick0722MX So no first hand knowledge ..copy.

[@Mick0722MX]

@@jerryhufnagel5733 Don't be an idiot. Professors don't react the way that guy claims.

[@encouragingworship7704]

Thank you for your amazing work Dr. Tour!

[@tubefry]

I'm so glad I had this presented by KZbin! I recently started listening to Dr. Meyer's "Signature in the cell" which is by the way a really tough topic for me, having English only as a second language, but is soooooo interesting. It gave me the necessary background for understanding you much more deeply! Thank you so much

[@robiny.4395]

I first saw you when you were on a channel for the Jewish people who found YESHUA. I love what you’re doing and the challenge you’re giving to wake people up and put light on deception.

[@lmb1931]

I see this this kind of sophistry EVERYWHERE! Instead of engaging with the argument itself, it is simply discarded in some way. The Woke does this, the learned do it, the ignorant do it, narcissists do it, it's a universal technique! After pointing out to them many times that they have not actually dealt with the argument in any kind of rational manner, they either walk away or become more and more menacing in their attacks, even to the point of threatening violence. These people appear to reject reason itself. Thank you, Dr. Tour, for exposing this irrationality.

[@Finraen]

Ad hominem, straw manning, gaslighting, projection, appeals to authority. Standard faire for atheists of all professions and walks of life. They pretend they aren't human or biased or that their life experiences and emotions don't affect their perspective. We are all the same. Everyone has faith in something.

[@Hannodb1961]

Yes, I remember as far back as 2004, when I first got interested in Intelligent Design, I noticed this. I'm actually thankful for the woke movement. They've basically took what the universities have done in secret for decades, and blown it wide open for the whole world to see.

[@JackyNickelson]

This is a very interesting video. You explained it very clearly. Keep spreading the good work!!!

[@ericjohnson5948]

Thank you for the share! This is incredible. I love listening to real scientist being upfront about the complexity and just how precious our life is.

[@suzifloren6090]

THANK YOU. so easy to understand. So love this topic. Keep repeating the research. People are waking up.🌟

[@brendawilliams8062]

I understand 0 about chemistry. The innovation is impressive. My innovation would be be different. Congratulations. Sincerely

[@SeidmannRavn]

I commend your work, Dr. Tour! You are a well articulated man, a gentle persona, and a very wise thinker. You have made me re-think my stance on Abiogenesis, and I hope more people follow in the footsteps of your genuine and honest curiosity. Peace be with you and your family. I hope Mr. Farina one day comes down from his Dunning-Kruger mountain and realizes that humility will get him a lot further in life.

[@JazzyArtKL]

Farina merely communicates scientific papers that debunk Tour. Don't flip the script.

[@MedusasBitterSweetTv]

I personally believe we will never understand because it's not meant for us too. I think we as humans have missed the whole point of life and have gotten lost in our greed.

[@climatematters6632]

Great topic well covered! There is no such thing as a simple cell! A single cell, yes, but a simple cell … absolutely no! There are plenty of PhDs left in enhancing our understanding of the 'simple' cell! 😊

[@forrest7050]

" There is no such thing as a simple cell" It's relative .Your comment depends entirely on what YOUR definition of "simple " is.

[@stevemitz4740]

@@forrest7050 My understanding is, it takes 17 properly arranged molecules to mate with 17 other properly arranged molecules just to form a single protein building block, for simple life! Please correct me if I'm wrong!

[@forrest7050]

@@stevemitz4740 You haven't given me enough information here to be able to answer your question. Can you be more specific in which protein building blocks you are referring to. Proteins are functional proteins, they are not building blocks per se. Once formed, they will bind to other molecules joined by weak covalent bonds. Is that what you mean regarding your 17 molecules? can you be a bit more precise in your question The actual building blocks of proteins are amino acids which are small organic molecules that consist of an alpha carbon atom linked to an amino group, a carboxyl group, a hydrogen atom, and a variable component called a side chain. The simplest amino acid is Glycine, which has the chemical formula C2H5NO2, the side chain in this case being a single hydrogen atom. A single molecule of Glycine therefore has 10 atoms, somewhat less than the 34 you are talking about. £4 atoms would be a pretty complex amino acid. Most known amino acids have around 20 to 230 atoms I believe. Just to clarify, the alignment of atoms and molecules which allows them to bond together happens pretty automatically depending on whether the end points are hydrophilic or hydrophobic, and on the valency of the electrons in the molecules to form the covalent bonds between the atoms.. It can be imagined as the way two magnets align themselves automatically depending on the attraction or repulsion of their poles. They have no choice. They can only align in a certain way when they meet., and if they are facing the wrong way they turn to link together.

[@michaeld9682]

Thank you for all you do, Dr. Tour.

[@MrCanadave]

As a 79 year old Canadian, I remember in grade 5 in Toronto in 1955, being taught that a simple cell was made of protoplasm. OHHH .... that sounds really scientificy so it must be true.

[@shaunmcinnis1960]

I’m 58 and I remember being taught the same thing..lol

[@virtualpilgrim8645]

15:06 James mentions that bringing someone's race or nationality into a debate is not allowed in the university. However, we also know that social media censors any discussion it deems offensive. What this means is that there can be no honest debates posted on KZbin or social media regarding these subjects at all. So, expecting to learn the full truth on KZbin is not possible.

[@michelleduncan9965]

Correct virtual !!!!!

[@piratessalyx7871]

Why should it matter we all have the same chemical makeup……all genus human

[@robertsmithington8892]

The Feynman principle or technique; “If you can’t explain it, you don’t understand it”. It’s a great technique in studying too. Study a concept until you can clearly verbalize and communicate it to another person.

[@Serguil]

Prof. Dr. Tour should have at least 10 million subscribers!

[@robiny.4395]

He could have, and YT. may have deleted subscribers.

[@maylingng4107]

"The most provocative items in the huge archaeological exhibition opening March 4 at the Israel Museum are the ones that aren’t there. The exhibition, “Pharaoh in Canaan: The Untold Story,” is about the long relationship between the land of Israel and ancient Egypt. The hall devoted to the best known part of the story - the Exodus from Egypt - is an empty room with exactly one exhibit on display: a movie featuring co-curator and Israel Museum Egyptologist Dr. Daphna Ben-Tor, who explains that the hall is empty because there is no archaeological evidence whatsoever to support the biblical tale."

[@penny459]

Thank God for men like this!

[@digidanshow]

The whole "random" "accidental" argument falls apart when you take into account the odds against a single protein forming that way. The universe isn't old enough for it to happen.

[@voiceofreason162]

The odds are 10^164 - which is more atoms than there are in the observable universe - to randomly generate a single protein of 150 parts. Versus 10^350,000,000 to get from that to life. They know the odds. They know there isn't enough time. They know the chemical composition doesn't favour the argument. But they believe it anyway. The true God of the gaps is a string of 10 with 350 M zeroes after it. But, somehow, it is.

[@pigzcanfly444]

​@@sciencerules8525produce a "precursor protein" before making such statements.

[@dovonovich]

@@sciencerules8525 Be careful before calling creationist math “stupid.” You’ve made the claim, now back it up. Dr Tour’s entire point is how secular science can’t argue for origin of life. Where is your evidence?

[@pigzcanfly444]

@sciencerules8525 name them and their function and then show a pathway for then to be formed naturalistically then encoded and reproduced using other proteins. That's the kind of process we see in life after all. Feel free to educate yourself enough in order to be able to defend your own words.

[@alexstramp7688]

​@@sciencerules8525The challenge is there. Go ahead answer one of the questions...

[@robertgelley6454]

Few men have the intellect to throw down such an eloquent challenge for academia. Fewer men have the qualifications to state such a challenge. Kudos to the interviewer to have Dr Tour, however my only critique, ( and perhaps this is just my ADHD) I felt that each question was asked multiple ways which seemed verbose, and I was anxious to hear Dr. Tour's answer.

[@rockzalt]

What fascinates me about science with its' obstacles, when one researcher puts their heart and sweat to develop a super glue they end up finding sticky notes. This challenge can lead to an unexpected beneficial result. It doesn't necessarily need to be seen as negative challenge. A failure could lead somewhere else positive.

[@Godisgood173]

The reason You lost your cool in the debate was because you’re frustrated and passionate about wanting to help people see the truth. We are all guilty of that, if any Christian says they don’t get annoyed or angry in a debate, I’m afraid I don’t believe them! Thank you for all you do to guide people like myself to understand why evolution can’t happen. It’s been a great help hearing this discussion.

[@BidenOurTime]

God bless you sir and good luck on your incredibly tough endeavor of spreading the truth to the science community shrouded in corruption.

[@conduit68]

Dr Tour, every time I see you in a video I scramble to grab my notebook. Thanks to you I now have several - FULL of facts I use in evangelism. I Thank you for answering YHWH's call for you life. You are a truely righteous man.

[@jigme0509]

The king has no clothes. Way to go Dr ! You are courageous and a true ambassador.

[@kateknowles8055]

And it is going to be an interesting, if chilly, parade. Thanks for the catchy tune. A child of the fifties I heard a song like this on Children's Choice on Saturday mornings (Uncle Mac BBC) Was it Hans Christian Andersen that told our world about the king's new expensive suit ?. Roger Penrose wrote quite seriously about The Emperor's New Clothes.

[@jodymccabe2586]

Dr Tour is amazing - they can't argue with him because he proves them wrong on every count.

[@Scotty-thrive-tribe]

This was phenomenal, thank you, cheers to both of you… I’m all in on this journey with you... Just got to learn quickly!

[@salmonkill7]

Dr. Tour, wonderful discussion!! I just looked up your BIO and you were working on your PhD in Chemistry at the SAME TIME I was completing my PhD coursework in Physics at Purdue University!! We were at the WEST LAFAYETTE, INDIANA campus at overlaping timeframes!! Another interesting commonality is that I completed by duel BS in CHEMISTRY and PHYSICS at WHITWORTH UNIVERSITY at the same time as Dr. Stephen Meyer the INTELLIGENT DESIGN champion!! I now teach at a small Christian High school after a 34 year career measuring nuclear weapons radiations. Thank you Dr. Tour for being a champion of God and a wonderful ambassador of Jesus Christ!! We need more Christian Scientists to speak up!! I am 100% convinced from a purely SCIENTIFIC standpoint that ABIOGENENESIS is a fairy tale!! While its true SPECIES evolve and adapt in nature, I dont believe species EVER turned into completely different animals from one animal into a different animal. God Bless all!!

[@Finraen]

I keep asking people for any observable or recorded example of a beneficial mutation producing a new genus. Have never been given an example. The only examples of beneficial mutations are on a very small scale, within species and not even changing the species much less the genus. Billions of years of gradual changes is no more verifiable than a benevolent sky Daddy designing things. Perhaps less verifiable because mutations result from a loss of genetic information, not more information being added. Natural selection is as much a religious idea as any form of theism.

[@jamesmelendez9971]

Dr James Tour is the Richard Feynman of Chemistry. This straight up questioning is the Marque of a true scientist. When I listen to Dr. Tour I get goosebumps. I just intuitively know that no matter how much time you have and how bad your thunderstorm is you will simply NEVER get a workable first cell

[@sirdonaldofthewarcry]

Good interviewer. Thank you, Dr. Tours.

[@wiltonpt1]

I’m proud of dr Tour more now so as I heard him admit that sometimes the way we say things can make a difference and he has been combative at times. We Christian’s should be wise as some animals are and not to needless attract persecution but we should be gentle with those who are ignorant of spiritual realities and never acuse like the Acuser. Science is a construct. All we materially have before our senses is nature and the investigation of it by people who we call researchers. Unfortunately , the last few decades some biologists have spoken for the whole community and in their deep incredulity attempted to hijack science as the final possession of the most hardened God scoffers and denials. Their interpretation or fanciful explanations as just as fallible and flawed at time as their very own humanity

[@YvonneJANUHOWSKI-s5l]

Thank-you, Dr. Tour... May God continue to bless you & your loved ones...❤️ Y

[@cindypope4238]

Been following Dr. Tour since 2017. Massive respect for this man of God. The devil is a liar and will refute Truth no matter what and affirm their fiction instead.

[@VonHenry70]

Thank you, @cindypope4238, for that reminder. I think supporters of Dr. Tour (myself included ) get so angry and combative against his detractors...but in fact we should pity them. They are being fooled and deceived by "the ruler of the kingdom of the air". Blessings to you!

[@VonHenry70]

Thank you, @cindypope4238, for that reminder. I think supporters of Dr. Tour (myself included ) get so angry and combative against his detractors...but in fact we should pity them. They are being fooled and deceived by "the ruler of the kingdom of the air". Blessings to you!

[@karenmazzu]

The beginning reminds me of 90's pro wrestling "promos" (brief speeches challenging opponents). I loved 90's pro wrestling so much that I wanted to be a pro wrestler, but had to give it up around when Jesus got me. Thank you for being a blessing, Dr. Tour. I am inspired to keep trying to be less cowardly with my faith

[@lorendjones]

Brilliant man. Great discussion.

[@martha-schalleck]

James Tour does such an amazing work, I owe him so much understanding

[@someone6162]

God bless you Dr James Tour!! You bring honor and glory to the name of a our creator!

[@deanphilipsaunders775]

You're great Dr Tour and you're work is vitally important. And God is watching! God bless.

[@niblick616]

Which 'god'? Prove that 'god' thing is doing anything.

[@lieslceleste3395]

No one is silencing this drama queen. He is welcome to publish anything he wants in a peer reviewed journal. He knows how science is done.

[@lieshtmeiser5542]

Peer review is not a wonderful open access thing like you imply. Post grad is similar, if noone agrees to supervise you, youre toast. I like the story of the dude (cant rem his name off top of my head) but he came back from PRC after watching the unethical horrors of the one child policy (forced abortions and forced sterilizations), and was basically disowned by his supervisors. He might be able to get published in some paper, maybe he should, but to a certain extent I kinda agree with him that it would be a waste of his energies at this late stage in life.

[@lieslceleste3395]

@@lieshtmeiser5542 That has not been my experience with publishing research. And, Tour has had no problems getting research published. He knows how it’s done. His criticisms would be welcome in any relevant journal.

[@lou-lou1171]

@kattykitters5310 Prove him wrong.

[@linusloth4145]

@@lieslceleste3395 Do you think the peer-reviewers will accept a paper that would destroy their field and life's work?

[@lieslceleste3395]

@@linusloth4145 Geez. First, he’s not going to destroy anything. He is essentially criticizing that some steps are missing. Those are valid points but not devastating. Research in every field, including math, publishes papers that contain incomplete explanations or proofs. Secondly, journals love “contention.” It prompts more papers and readership. For example, currently, there are a few cosmology papers suggesting the universe is twice as old as commonly thought. It’s also clear that theories of early galaxy formation were not correct. If no one wanted to have their theories challenged, they would not have built new telescopes. Scientists know how to do science. The conspiracy that you allege does not occur. What you surmise will happen is actually a reflection of how fundamentalists feel about knowledge that contradicts THEIR worldview. Look at the projection involved in the fundamentalist denial of evolution. Evolution is a done deal. Even Tour would admit that. Finally, you have not heard Tour defend not submitting any papers on OOL based on a bias of non-acceptance. He merely says he wants to concentrate on educating the general public. I have no problem with that except that he is a scientist and could well write a paper if he chose to.

[@usgamechamp1091]

Top of the line trolling here. Dr TOUR is the MAN!!!!

[@avechristusrex31]

Great stuff lads! Thank you.

[@tylerbarrett6652]

Dr. Tour... I so appreciate this presentation and your willingness to share it with us here on KZbin. Nearly every member in the "scientific" community presume the validity of evolution by random mutation... and I simply have to suspend my disbelief in order to engage with whatever subject matter they are working with. More importantly, I appreciate your habit with regard to reading the Bible... and I would implore you to include the Book of Enoch in that practice. While it is not regarded as Canon, it is quotes by characters in the Bible... and I find that it unlocks some of the mysteries or helps to answer the questions I have when I read the Canon. I'd love to find someone who has done a thorough and OBJECTIVE study on that Book... but I come up nearly empty when I try. Anyway... again, thanks for taking a position on this and sharing your thoughts with us.

[@mimibergerac7792]

How could they even create the mud puddle out of thin air (without the air of course).

[@celestialsatheist1535]

Thanks for giving Dave more content

[@MultiSky7]

Even ("movie") Barbie has a content...but it's more about stupidity of people who dig that BS.

[@mizmera]

An ace in the pocket. Respect for throwing your hat in Dr. Tour.

[@SKW-12]

Brilliant. Most satisfying. Thank you, Dr Tour.

[@winstonsmiths2449]

Came here from Daily Dose of Wisdom, subscribed and notifications set.

[@rac7773]

Fighter for Truth, James Tour!

[@niblick616]

Fighter for absurdities, James Tour!

[@rac7773]

@@niblick616 Right, Hater! lol Non-life to life without our Creator is the absurdity. You probably think that a man can become a woman too? lolol

[@capecarver]

Materialists are the equivalent of flat earthers. They cannot offer a coherent, persuasive argument for their belief, and they dismiss any honest disagreement as bad faith.

[@Dulc3B00kbyBrant0n]

@@sciencerules8525 science is fine you just have to understand its limitations and your own philosophical biases

[@Dulc3B00kbyBrant0n]

100% the same way you have to actually study flat earth arguments to refute flat earthers because of how intricate their arguments are gives the impression they are correct to one who hasnt studied both sides

[@alantasman8273]

@@sciencerules8525 It really is not about materialism...because God made everything that was made. It is about the worldview we use to interpret what we examine in God's creation. For instance, atheist geologists see the global layers of strata filled with fossils, coal, oil and gas spanning continents as having occurred over millions or billions of years. Creationists however see those layers being laid down quickly during the Noahic flood which covered the globe,..... burying creatures big and small, burying biomass in massive quantities (later turning to coal, oil and gas from pressures building from subsequent layers laid on top, creating continents and mountain chains as the fountains of the deep opened up releasing magma flows. Materialism can be studied from the point of view of slow uniformitarianism processes or very fast catastrophism events. Mt. St Helens is the best recent example of catastrophism in the modern era creating quickly formed canyons, layers of rock strata, tree trunks penetrating dozens of layers laid down quickly, the quick formation formation of peat at the bottom of lakes etc.

[@alantasman8273]

@@sciencerules8525 I have an explanation for creation...you have excuses and pseudoscience...like everything came from nothing and evolution created news species when all creatures are losing genetic information ...not getting it. I have nothing to prove ...it is all on you science deniers.

[@matildafaltyn6253]

The primordial soup idea is so silly it’s amazing we never realised this sooner.

[@Freeman3692]

Back in my college days, I remember my calculus professor teaching limits. One in particular sticks in my memory: the limit of 1/x as x approaches infinity = 0. Now, this is just me here, but I'd say that 1/(1×10^121) [or any other absurd denominator one could input] looks alot like 0 to me. The faith required to believe in the intelligence and benevolence of randomness is astonishing, to put it mildly. A God of the gaps argument isn't sufficient to fill the gaps they (origin of life scientists and evolutionary biologists) leave. However, the biggest question of all remains unanswered: From what source do the evolutionary pressures which cause life to spontaneously erupt from disorganized matter emanate? Materialism presents no viable answer to this question. Why would elemental material seek to become more complex? Not how. Why?

[@Finraen]

This is a good line of reasoning. Who cares if we can't prove God did it? There is no other stronger explanation, even based on scientific evidence. I hope the scientific community will one day recognize the importance of being honest and having enough integrity to admit they don't know, and that many of them rely on faith in the unknown to underpin their belief in evolutionary biology or natural selection or any other explanation for the origins of life and the development of complex organisms. And then to stop mistreating and denigrating creationists and intelligent design proponents for relying on faith for certain parts of their explanation to work. Debate is fine. Gaslighting and gatekeeping is disingenuous. Claiming we lay people can't understand it anyways is lazy.

[@GRAYgauss]

It doesn't need a why or rather we don't need to be able to access the why..if it's material, how is the why and that's it for us boxed agents. Self organizing systems driven by traversing energy gradients don't need a why, so why do you need an answer for a material why? Now I believe in God but your last question is not sensible. Conceivably gravity, theories of open and closed systems, entropy all could provide viable force gradients to explain how, but we can never reason about why. Consider these cases: why does fission work? why are triangles the strongest shape? Why do classical orbital systems become planar only in 3d space? Not how, why? Doesn't make sense, does it? We can answer how, but attempting to solve a natural mechanism's why is an impossible philosophical quip to march from..it doesn't mean the mechanism doesn't exist because we can't perceive the why. I'm not arguing to say life can spontaneously form. Since the how is so far fetched, and i'd try to argue impossible, I'm not disagreeing with you. It just seems that you're not being quite accurate or thorough...there are many thousands of incredible examples of mechanistic self organization. Personally I think it took intelligent design, because if you've actually spent time fine tuning simulations and exploring the emergent phenomena you'd know nothing really works for what can work, but it's not so simple as saying there is no explanation because there is so much out there. Even Tour isn't so confident.

[@Freeman3692]

@GRAYgoose124 I never inferred that I was more intelligent than Dr. Tour. And you can dispense with the snarkiness. Talking down to me only makes me doubt the validity of any of your arguments. When you write of self-organizing systems and the "how" being more important than the "why" it limits the field of study of the origin of life to materialistic phenomena. Mechanistic self organization occurs within comparatively simplistic systems. Shaking marbles in a box does not a cell make. Now, if you want to address me like an equal, then we can have a dialog. But being talked down to by a random dude on the internet does nothing for me.

[@posthawk1393]

I bet if you stretched a tape measure across the entire universe, the entropy fine tuning range for permitting life wouldn’t even be the width of a quark, and the rate of entropy could have happened upon any spot along that universe long tape measure. The idea that the universe happened upon that exact width is absurd. Clearly God put it there.

[@posttenebras2812]

Thank you for all of these explanations and insights Dr Tour, and for not being afraid of showing personal imperfections on social media, then showing that you wish you'd done it better. So much to learn from. Much appreciated.

[@user-mr7fu8pi2l]

So much respect for your strength and fight to speak the truth Dr. Tour. May God continue to elevate you!

[@pechoja]

More than 20 years ago NPR had interviews on the radio. One was of a group of scienr scientists whose conclusions about the investigation of the existence of God was stated to say that science would end up proving the existence of God. And here we are, the time has come. Please share far and wide. Please have Dr. Tours back. We need churches to become aware of his work. We need to protect him and let it be known he has a following.

[@roblogs7168]

He was jumping and screaming like a child in that debate😂highly recommend

[@CaptainPhilosophical]

45:06

[@theresa42213]

rogblogs ~ He is RIGHT though. Jumping and screaming, and RIGHT.

[@philroe2363]

LOL!… and “professor Dave” just kept saying “but muh papers!” He literally has NO clue about the things he claims are “true.”

[@roblogs7168]

@@theresa42213 he was handed his ass on a platter 🫤you did watch the same debate my dude.

[@theresa42213]

@@philroe2363 ~ Haha! Yea, Dave. Funny guy. xD

[@azmachinist2421]

I absolutely love you and your brilliant, spirit led work. I have been hearing the nonsense of these charlatans in the scientific community all my life and am sick of it. I wish you well and much more success in the future.

[@Arcticstar69]

Life being created would be a miracle, life coming out of nothing would be a miracle of miracles.

[@helenmacaskill741]

Praise God for your honesty. It's what we need today. What gets into textbooks is quite extraordinary and our children are being taught what is incorrect. May God be glorified.

[@chrispark2698]

Waiting for Professor Dave Minion to pop in the comments and lie... 3... 2... 1...

[@timhowell6929]

Yeah, no one is going to take on Dr Tour, he will dismantle their arguments completely, because he has the knowledge and courage to expose the deceit in academia.

[@niblick616]

What deceit? You forgot to say.

[@adamschaafsma5839]

This is an example of what happens when you say the emperor has no clothes I guess. Love you James, glad to be your brother in Christ, stay strong.

[@niblick616]

Tour is one of the Emperors courtiers desperately trying to claim that the Emperor has some new clothes and demanding that the people admire them.

[@adamschaafsma5839]

@@niblick616 not sure that works, he isn't proposing an alternate theory. He is just saying with what we currently know about chemistry the current model won't work.

[@niblick616]

@@adamschaafsma5839 1/ Not sure why you are not sure, given his statements in the video. 2/ In the video, Tour literally speaks about the 'god' thing he believes in, as though it actually exists. If I am not mistaken, the book his 'god' thing supposedly 'inspired' about itself claims that it actually made human beings out of dust and a rib. 3/ I may have missed Tour saying that he doesn't believe that claim in the book that supposedly informs him about his 'god' thing. Has he ever done so? 4/ Given that he is obviously devoted to that 'god' thing, in the video, it is fairly silly to try and claim that he does not believe his 'god' thing did it, when that is exactly what that 'god' thing supposedly claims. 5/ I think a better effort is needed to try and justify Tour's absurd claims.

[@adamschaafsma5839]

@@niblick616 the problem is you're mixing his beliefs into his science. You are saying because he believes these things he isn't allowed to analyze only the chemistry on its own merit. That is unfair and intellectually dishonest. If he says the chemistry doesn't work, he has the credentials and has earned the right to say so. God has nothing to do with his claims that the chemistry proposed to create life doesn't work. His personal beliefs should not be what he is judged on here.

[@kimngannguyen1747]

Thank you Dr Tour for your courage and determination . Thank God for You.

[@hondablack1]

Wonderful stuff ! Enjoyed every word. Thank you Dr tour.

[@jamesmaybury7452]

The problem of making things from random steps is much worse than the improbability. The chemistry and overwhelming abundance of things that don’t convey advantage over things that might give a steep slope towards thing breaking down rather than building up. It’s like bouncing a ball on the foothill of a mountain and not only claiming that it could possibly bounce uphill a bit but that it would keep bouncing all the way up the mountain.

[@MarkRichardson-wu6oq]

Cite any study, lab result, research paper or anything you might have to support your claim.

[@hoptoads]

@@MarkRichardson-wu6oq LOL. I'd love to see you scientifically disprove his claim.

[@torfarley2889]

Agreed. Don’t need any papers or studies to see clearly. 😊

[@MarkRichardson-wu6oq]

@hoptoads Of course, I might never be able to disprove him or anyone else. I'm not a scientist. That's not the argument at all. The argument is that even if you disprove evolution or anything else, you don't get to say god did it. You need to prove a god first. Our lack of knowledge and people's incredulity does not prove a deity

[@SystemsMedicine]

Hi JM. The process of “saltation” in sand dunes involves the wind blowing grains of sand around to form giant sand hills. I Believe it was Bagley who first described the sand grain bouncing processes, and how they are essential to sand dune formation. So, if there is an energy source, like wind or other entropic energy releasing processes, then sand grains make dunes, balls can be driven uphill, and otherwise unlikely chemical processes can become commonplace.