Exposing the Biggest Lies in Nutrition - Alan Flanagan

[@elmartell5724]

All this pain, money, controversy, and stress- when for the vast majority of us, it's just "eat the damn vegetables, eat less processed food, and have a balanced diet". 😵😵

[@JemyM]

I lost 115 pounds since February 2023 and my vitals are the best they been since I was a teenager. I do not eat vegetables and I eat ultra-processed foods as part of my balanced diet every day. "Processed foods" is a nonsense term rooted in privilege, not sound health recommendations or science.

[@elmartell5724]

@JemyM Privilege is denying the accepted medical consensus on UPFs just because you were able to eat them and still lose weight. I could eat only three KitKats a day and still lose weight- but it's sure af going to cause me malnutrition eventually. You don't know better than the leading experts about this. Go eat a damn vegetable.

[@jamie5mauser]

There’s a huge danger in the devaluation of medical advice. These gurus often make claims that “doctors just want to keep you sick” adding to the mistrust of medicine

[@ClassicJukeboxBand]

So if medical advice is so great, how come every body is so fat and sick and on multiple medications?

[@CRISPR-Cas-j6w]

@@ClassicJukeboxBand Because people don’t make significant changes. Doctors prescribe their patients with scientifically proven drugs, diet plans, etc, and they then either don’t bother to stay on the course of drugs or diet (e.g. the gallstones guy at the start of the video), or fall for this exact misinformation and suffer the consequences. They may also just relapse, where the treatment works, and then the patient falls into the same habits that got them in their original state. People not listening to doctors is the issue, not the other way around.

[@elzee4253]

@@CRISPR-Cas-j6w They follow what they've been told. This guy Flanagan is partly responsible for that.

[@CRISPR-Cas-j6w]

@@elzee4253 What exactly do you mean by 'what they've been told'? Just want to clarify.

[@elzee4253]

@@CRISPR-Cas-j6w Food pyramid for example

[@mabinogidrws]

Another red flag for influencers is if they're trying to sell you something. I know legit experts do it as well, which makes me lose respect for them, tbh. I used to watch The Academy for Human Anatomy and since they started spruiking the AG1 greens supplement, I find it difficult to take them seriously.

[@FullOfSpuds]

Do you mean the Intitute for Human Anatomy? I hope not, I really enjoy their content but agree, anyone promoting something like AG1 loses a lot of credibility. It might contain a bunch of "healthy" stuff, but most of it is in such small quantities as to be worthless

[@1992DJP]

Being diagnosed with type two diabetes.. I didn’t go overboard but cut back on highly processed foods, high carb foods, but still eat foods with carbs, I am more of a savory person than a sweet person, but if I want a sweet, I have it. I’ve been able to control my bs by using my meter @5.6 not on any meds. Moderation moderation moderation is the key. every doctor has their own opinion I listen then I do what my body says is right for me.

[@patriciaZMarie2867]

I did the same with my husband. The way his endocrinologist told him to eat his diabetes was so out of control. He had to avoid so many things and it ultimately lead to weightgain, edemia, an a1c of between 8 and 13 for almost 2 years 40u and 80u of both insulins each meal. He had no energy, and was very very unhappy with his life. Finally i had enough. I sought out a new diabetes doctor, his other was just swapping out meds constantly, and I started doing a diet more focused on lowering his weight instead of carb cutting and eating whole foods. In that first 9 months he dropped 70lbs his insulin use slowly dropped (he was having alot of drops after the diet change) his insulin needs dropped to 20u once a day at breakfast (his highest carb meal) and his a1c dropped to 6 even! It's been over 2 years since i started working through a diet, and how his CGM numbers are and he's hovering between an A1C of 5.4 and 6. These changes helped tremendously and he can have his fruits and other carbs and not shoot up into the 200s anymore let alone the 3 and 4 hundreds like before. He is able to keep himself between 90 and 100 though the day and only upwards of 150- 180 after meals

[@samyarichards9629]

Same with me. I listen to my body. It's not like anyone else. I am an individual.

[@sabastianswika-post1819]

If you did what your body thought was right for you then you never would’ve ended up with a totally preventable disease like type 2 diabetes.

[@RustyFinch]

And some do not have the ability to moderate at all. One bite of sugary sweet and it’s a binge fest. No carb is not for everyone nor is moderation.

[@patriciaZMarie2867]

@@RustyFinch exactly. For type 2 diabetics it's very different per person. Each body works differently and there's still alot of internal medicine and family docs and even endocrinologists that still go the way of the old idea that extreme restriction is the only way.

[@deefee701]

The rates of obesity have not changed since 1944? The CDC records the USA rate of obesity as 32% in 2021. The CDC shows obesity in 1960 at 13%. Other US statistics websites say that Obesity tates have increased across society since tge 1970s. The NCBI states that obesity has tripled over the past 5 decades. Another government site says obesity was 10% in the 1950s. Interestingly, the CDC began in a small office in 1946 and I can only find this --National surveys of childhood obesity weren't recorded before 1963; however, the rate of childhood obesity in the U.S. began to rise in the 1980s. In 1980, 7 percent of children ages 6 to 11 had obesity; in 2012, the rate was nearly 18 percent. In adolescents -12 to 19 years of age- the increase in obesity rates was more striking, climbing from 5 to 21 percent during the same period. Obvious proof would be to compare film of general crowds of people in the 1940s to today. You can see what the public looked like.

[@jessica5470]

And yet were misinformed according to him

[@gabo341]

they are in the uk

[@sookibeulah9331]

@@gabo341doesn’t matter. There are similar rises in childhood obesity in the UK. It’s not as bad in the UK as it is in the US but there’s still a significant increase here.

[@EN-cb8ut]

If seed oils are good for you why do we usually find them in ultra processed food??? As a Greek we always cook with olive oil whitch is just the juice when you squeeze the olive not some Frankenstein food...

[@JemyM]

"Frankenstein food" and "Ultra Processed Foods" are just made up nonsense labels based on food shaming, privilege and puritanism, not health or science.

[@shinkyouma9058]

if water is so good why is it found in ultra processed food?

[@FullOfSpuds]

Strange argument you could make about many ingredients. They're in UPF because they're cheap to produce and versatile

[@themountain3461]

​@@FullOfSpudsbut are they good for us? A bit weird if stuff we didn't evolve with and eat for millions of years is healthy, we just didn't know how to extract it. Maybe more likely, it's rather the case that they're cheap and versatile, so food companies don't care about the health outcome

[@paullond7721]

If cooked seed oils were so healthy then McDonalds and KFC would be the healthiest places on the planet to eat at.

[@ZEROHED]

Thanks for this Dr Karan, its a great listen. I think when it comes to food, eating far less ultra processed food is generally a good thing. You are bang on with regards to people really not knowing what to do when they are tired of being sick and having no where to go. So they go on the internet and end up doing an elimination diet without even knowing.

[@DaughterOfChelsea]

Any food that has additives that keeps it for longer imo. Processed is such a broad term of food that has been "Processed" like me cutting a banana is technically Processed. It's more about them changing it from a natural state and adding salt/sugar and other stuff to preserve food.

[@jamie5mauser]

High ldl vs glucose intolerance: the argument is that ldl doesn’t affect veins as it does arteries, even though the LDL levels are the same in both systems. It’s the hyperglycemia (particularly because of US increased hydrostatic pressure shooting the sharp sugar into the intima) which damages the intima of the arteries and LDL then gets stuck in the damage causing athlerosclerosis

[@deefee701]

Makes sense. The best way to know either way is to reduce sugary food intake to ,6 teaspoons a day or less and message our LDL in a few months time. Exactly what I'm going to do.

[@Heightsomethinghuman]

Thank you both for a doctor’s eye view of the topics you covered with evidence based science! It takes a lot of worry about doing everything ‘right’ according to all the health gurus, and simply living the normal life and healthy diet we have been advised by medical professionals for decades. A long sigh of relief and a tip of the hat to you both!

[@Heightsomethinghuman]

Looking forward to your next topic!

[@ctdtran]

I know a plastic surgeon in Beverly Hills that has opened up a private integrative medicine practice with a functional nutrition component where she employs genetic testing to personalize dietary recommendations. It’s just interesting to open practice and provide medical advice in an area where’s there’s really lack of standardized guidelines let alone extrapolate their current expertise to other areas of science without further training…

[@sarahlabbe9779]

We love a nuanced educated discourse, thank you both!

[@DillaryHuff]

I don't think Alan Flanagan is very nuanced, personally. In general, I'd like to support evidence based scientists who take a neutral approach to nutrition, but it seems to me that Flanagan leans very heavily towards veganism, although he's not an actual vegan, himself. I've known enough vegans (now former vegans) in my life to understand that the vast majority of people are not meant to eat that way in the very long term (10 years+) if they want to stay healthy. He'll occasionally share some interesting knowledge on nutrition, and I can respect that he's studied the subject, but he's very much in line with the opinions of the health authorities that you'll read from any tabloid or online newspaper, and like him, I don't think there's anything neutral or nuanced about the claims made by those sources. They have a clear agenda, and they apply nutritional science to it, in order to make it sound conclusive and informative, although a lot of nutritional science is inconclusive and based on a "to the best of our knowledge"- principle that often doesn't actually translate to the positive health outcomes that they promise.

[@MaybeTogether]

The main issue with seed oils is that they present an oxidative liability. They do not acutely cause oxidative stress, but their polyunsaturated fatty acids (PUFAs) are more vulnerable than any other macronutrient to oxidative damage. Oxidative stress can increase because of nutrient deficiencies, toxins, infections, other sources of inflammation, alcohol, or smoking, and it will inevitably increase as a function of aging. As oxidative stress increases, more PUFAs in the tissues mean more damage. At least 0.6 milligrams of vitamin E should be gotten per gram of PUFA in the diet, but vitamin E cannot fully protect against PUFA, so their intake should be moderated to the very low levels needed, as obtained by eating fatty fish once or twice a week, eating eggs daily, and eating 4-8 ounces of liver per week. Additional secondary problems with them include residual solvents and heat damage prior to intake, but the main issue is that we do not want to increase our tissue PUFA content more than needed.

[@ladagspa2008]

Cool story. In the real world, people who cook with seed oils at home compared to butter have better health outcomes in terms of CVD or cancer.

[@Ge1Ri4]

​​@@ladagspa2008cool story. There are robust studies that were buried for years that have come to light that are controlled, randomized trials instead of mere "nutritional survey" studies, which show unequivocally that seed oils vastly increase cardiovascular risk.

[@ladagspa2008]

@@Ge1Ri4 oh stfu already. Noone cares about 1960s studies which used trans fat containing margarines and volunteers who were in and out of facility. The Minnesota experiment had smokers who died less than non smokers. It was a shit study, everyone agrees with that except for nutritional flat earthers like you.

[@MissingRaptor]

​@@Ge1Ri4 Oooooo! Can you direct me to some? I'm interested in looking into them 💖💖💖

[@TheAllanBrownlie]

Spot on

[@arianasilesia2500]

I did keto diet for 5 years then went to carnivore diet for 2 years Now I have no cartilage in my hips and need hip replacement. I am now on disability from work not able to leave the house due to no mobility i just recently learned that we need vitamin C to regenerate cartilage. Now i am left wondering if these diets caused my hip arthritis ??? I am only 50 years old i should not be in this type of condition 😔

[@maz_cherry]

Kiwi fruits have high Vitamin C so maybe that could help your vit c deficiency... hope you get better

[@zperdek]

Adhd that's why I munch on lemons from time to time.

[@Sc-dd6hb]

Carnivore diet is gonna give you HIGH risk for colorectal cancer.

[@elzee4253]

@@arianasilesia2500 you should rather blame what you were eating 10-20 years prior. 2 years on carnivore would not do any damage

[@themountain3461]

Carnivore didn't cause cartilage degeneration. If that was the case, we would see many cases in strict carnivores

[@TurboRotor]

The summary of this video, all foods are OK, continue eating processed food, they are approved by relevant medical authorities. There are no more obese children than 80+ years ago. Professional to the end. The only two topics where this talk is right: extreme diets and YT influencers charlatany.

[@deefee701]

I work in schools. There are lots more fat kids than 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 years ago. I'm 54. I've seen it with my own eyes. Eating lots of processed food has put in 50 kilos of weight on me and I'm being told by my doctor to lose weight or go on blood pressure medication. The rates of obesity have not changed since 1944? The CDC records the USA rate of obesity as 32% in 2021. The CDC shows obesity in 1960 at 13%. Other US statistics websites say that Obesity tates have increased across society since tge 1970s. The NCBI states that obesity has tripled over the past 5 decades. Another government site says obesity was 10% in the 1950s. Interestingly, the CDC began in a small office in 1946 and I can only find this --National surveys of childhood obesity weren't recorded before 1963; however, the rate of childhood obesity in the U.S. began to rise in the 1980s. In 1980, 7 percent of children ages 6 to 11 had obesity; in 2012, the rate was nearly 18 percent. In adolescents -12 to 19 years of age- the increase in obesity rates was more striking, climbing from 5 to 21 percent during the same period. Obvious proof would be to compare film of general crowds of people in the 1940s to today. You can see what the public looked like.

[@zperdek]

​@@deefee701comment you are reacting to is called sarcasm.

[@gmw3083]

​@@zperdekIs this outlet funded by Big Pharma? Seems it may be...

[@gmw3083]

​@zperdek this outlet is brought to you by the perennial ownership group

[@elzee4253]

agree! I must add that interview is part of charlatanry.

[@baroquefiddle4790]

I have epilepsy and lupus and started listening to those doctors on KZbin and began a full carnivore diet. I felt miserable on and kept almost fainting. I was 3 years seizure's free and recently relapsed and had 3 seizure's back to back. My family called an ambulance and they tested my blood sugar and it was 3 😮 so they made me eat chocolate. After that scary experience I added back in fruits and vegetables and feel a lot better, I'm also back on meds and hoping to get surgery. I feel very betrayed as those doctors were telling me carbs were the source of my health problems 😕

[@jamie5mauser]

I’m so sorry. I think one of the problems is that even doctors simply label junk food as “carbs” even if the food has more calories from fat that from carbs. Examples are pizza, French fries, cookies, chips are all labeled as “carbs” but have just as much if not more fat than carbs. Junk food

[@baroquefiddle4790]

@@jamie5mauser Thank you, yes I agree. I hate the carbs are bad rhetoric. I lost almost 5 stone and hated being so thin, have been trying really hard to gain back some body fat.

[@montycora]

Do you know that the ketogenic diet was created in 1920 to cure epilepsy in children??? And to this day it is still used to treat refractory epilepsy. You should have gone to a dietitian to do that. This is a treatment just like any doctor and as any serious treatment you need a professional to guide you. You can do the keto diet with lots of vegetables and some fruit, no dietitian will have you on a carnivore diet to cure epilepsy because you need FAT and not PROTEIN to grow ketones.

[@baroquefiddle4790]

@@montycora That's what I'm doing now. I feel a lot less depressed too since adding in those foods. The keto diet has mixed results and only stops seizure's in 40% also they did a study over 10 years on those children and they all had growth probelms. I have to be careful not to leave my blood glucose drop as that is what triggered my last seizure's. Also the meds they put me on had horrific side effects with severe nausea and vomiting and no appetite which had me bed ridden for a few weeks, which is why I'd prefer surgery.

[@montycora]

@@baroquefiddle4790 - the thing is, if you tried carnivore, this is not for epilepsy, not at all. Carnivore does not give high ketones and it is usually what you need to stabilize seizures. And yes, you are correct, it doesn't work 100% of the time, that is why when we star keto for epilepsy, we do it for 3 months to see if the patient will have good results. Sometimes the diet can stop 50% of the seizures, which is already considered a win. And it is also not for the next day, it does take some time for the diet to start working. You will only have blood sugar problems in the beginning, as your mitochondria stars to witch from glucose as fuel to fat, once this adaptation is complete (it might take 3 months) you will no longer have blood sugar problems. Surgery is also not 100% guaranteed is gonna work 100%, have you considered Vagus nerve stimulation? The growth problem with children was a study done in 2002 and they used a keto diet with caloric restriction (using 80% of the daily caloric intake), we don't do that anymore. Current KD for epilepsy will use the calories above the basal metabolic rate, and recent studies show that children no longer show growth problem with this approach. You should really consider trying again with a specialized dietitian, I understand you are afraid because of your recent experiences, but you have to see that what you have done is not exactly protocol or how it should be done. I know there is a Epilepsy center at the Johns Hopkins Hospital, I am not sure how far you are, cause I live in Brazil, but tell me your location and perhaps I could find a dietitian closer to you.

[@montycora]

How to spot a charlatan: they say other professionals are charlatans and they are the only ones who know the truth...

[@-z-9989]

So you?

[@TheMothaDuckingHamMan]

I just assume one is if they provide oversimplified answers to complex problems through a process of magical thinking. I've been thought many diseases at uni people think they can solve with diet alone. these diseases are complex and multifactorial. Anyone clearly providing one solution out of their arse is not in touch or are just after your money

[@montycora]

@@-z-9989 - I am not on a podcast trashing other professionals. In nutrition there is not one size fits all approach. Because ONE patient had problems with the keto diet, doesn't mean EVERYONE will. We don't know how he did it, if he had any conditions and so on. There is plenty of studies on ANYTHING you want, so one could say they know everything because of this study or that study, so there is perspective. I don't hold the same views on nutrition as my fellow dietitians, however I don't think they are charlatans because of that because I know there are studies to back up what they say, the only snag is that I also have studies to backup what I think, so you have to be very careful on how you talk about people, because nutritional science is very flawed.

[@reddragon771]

​@@montycora so you are a dietitian which is a made up profession no better than being a chiropractor or a homeopathy specialist which does not just make you a charalatan but add to that it qualifies you as being a snake oil salesman too ..... And here you are trying to critique a doctor who is not just a doctor but also a best selling author and a surgeon to boot which unlike being a dietitian is a real ptofession by the way.. Yeah thank you for being honest about your profession because now I know whose advice i can trust and whose advice I need to stay the hell away from... The word of a man who has tirelessly toiled day and night for more than five years to become a surgeon a job which he is really passionate about a fact that is proven by his work ethic that despite working for the nhs makes him find time to author a best selling book and host a you tube channel and podcast to enlighten his subscribers about how to live a disease free and healthy life is way more trustworthy than the incoherent ramblings of a snake oil salesman like you who feels offended and starts whining like a five year old the moment he and the countless others of his kind are called out due to their lack of qualification, gross incompetence and for blatantly lying to their clients about the efficacy of the treatments they claim to have on offer. ... I am sure you also use the title doctor whenever you write your name just like the countless others like you love to do because it gives them a sense of fulfillment and makes them feel like they are doing something productive with their otherwise underachieving lives .. ..

[@missmochiicecream]

@@montycora But as you know not all studies are equal in value, so you'd have to vet the studies that these professionals use to figure out whether or not that information is trustworthy or not. Just because they used a study doesn't automatically make what they say trustworthy information. You've said this, but also you did say that anybody can use studies to prove that what they're saying is true. The other dieticians you're referring to could be approaching it this way, which would make them charlatans imo.

[@moldytoes6006]

glad someones talking about this, Dr Gundry's claims have been driving me insane

[@AzaghalTheBadger]

As a prediabetic man that is on ketogenic diet for 2 years already only with small breaks, I wonder what do people eat to get such bad results that they end up in ER. in 2 years I dropped 60 pounds of bodyfat and my bloodwork is all within norm of a man my age with LDL dropping on keto and HDL rising. My key is big salad I make myself for lunch to work everyday. My 2nd meal is some fatty protein and EVEN more vegetables, usually with some more olive oil or butter. In the end my keto is chiefly vegetables and dairy while I monitor my blood ketones and sugar, so I ask, how do they screw this up?

[@slwrabbits]

It took some time to listen to the entire discussion, but I'm glad I did. My area suffers from a great deal of orthorexia - people come in and insist that they need to feed their dogs very specific foods, or that they need to eliminate specific ingredients. They claim that they've heard these things are dangerous. Knowing that the overall scientific consensus hasn't been wildly changed puts me more at ease. I've always deferred to veterinary nutritionists and now I can point out that these hot new fad diets are based on cherry-picked data and debunked studies. It's just as I suspected. There is absolutely no reason to feed nutritionally deficient diets and give the dogs heart disease. Sadly, I can see from the comments that few humans are listening to the conversation. These people have already fallen prey to influencers keen to make a quick buck off their gullibility. It's a very sad state of affairs.

[@joanneclark8256]

Can you put in a grade 3 level please. I'm trying to understand. Also the fog food..l feed my dog beef yorkie 15 and not kebble

[@slwrabbits]

@@joanneclark8256 Influencers and fear mongers have turned dog food into a highly controversial topic. The short version is that most of what you hear from breeders, groomers, and on the internet is misinformation, exaggerated claims of danger or benefits, or based on bad studies that didn't actually prove everything. It is almost all promoted to make money for people. Unfortunately, because the arguments SOUND persuasive, many people are fooled into believing them. The safest food for your dog is a diet formulated by a veterinary nutritionist - not a celebrity. Buy a good dog food and don't listen to the internet. Many people fall prey to these money-hungry promoters and unknowingly harm their dogs with inadequate nutrition.

[@functionalagingfitness-dou3188]

Talk about gas lighting. How's the standard medical recommendations doing on type 2, obesity and cancer? Drugs! In most cases, if a doctor can't get you off drugs ASAP though lifestyle advise you have a drug dealer. Don't get me started on ozempic and covid protocols. The good doctors were censored.

[@joanneclark8256]

What would you do if I sulin resistance

[@RustyFinch]

Why should this guy be trusted anymore than any other online dr who follows the science. You can find studies for or against ANYTHING if you look hard enough.

[@zene2550]

Dietary linoleic acid doesn't not effect blood levels. It affects adipose. High linoleic acid in blood means there not being converted to oxidized metabolites. This is controlled by D6D. This guy gets lot wrong unfortunately becuase he doesn't go deeper and looks at stuff from the typical allopathic evidence based view

[@iconoclastic23]

As far as artificial sweeteners go, I avoid them for the same reason it's probably a bad idea for an alcoholic to be drinking non-alcoholic beer. I used to use sweet and carby foods for emotional regulation, and that addictive behavior led to chronic snacking and over-consumption of carbohydrates which caused a perpetual state of insulin resistance and all the metabolic diseases that went along with it. I find it better not to tempt fate and simply avoid them just to keep those sweetness cravings away. Yeah you might have studies proving the effect of non-nutritive sweeteners is innocuous in the body, but there's a behavioral and psychological component that those studies have nothing to say about.

[@JonnelleLola]

Would love to see a video of your fiber intake for a day (whether it’s all food or added supplements) since you said 50g +. Great video by the way!

[@joanneclark8256]

I like to know too Is the fiber supplements helpful like unicity add more fiber fir microbiome

[@andreasalexandrou6505]

A couple of BS artists suggesting others are BS artist. What BS.

[@polibm6510]

Spot on!

[@julianschweitzer5492]

I know telling us it’s ok to eat artificial sweeteners but don’t eat saturated fat and to listen to the government guidelines for food

[@andreasalexandrou6505]

@@julianschweitzer5492 The advice against saturated fat has been debunked, wrong, outdated and previously deliberately falsified. The Government guidelines for food is probably the worst diet that you can go on and is guaranteed to give you metabolic issues, including diabetes, heart disease, atherosclerosis, kidney disease, cancer and Alzheimer's.

[@gavinbolton9551]

@@julianschweitzer5492 Saturated fat is basically completely healthy to consume lol. Don’t believe me believe the scientific literature and evidence of consumption of saturated fat through human history. Like they may be slightly less healthy than mono and poly unsaturated fats but the margin is almost negligible.

[@mysteryegg340]

It’s such a minefield. Keto is literally the only diet that has worked for me. I’ve tried EVERYTHING. You name a diet, I have done it. I have even done a hypnotherapy gastric band. I am currently 20 stone and almost 50. What am I to do? Continue to lose weight (1stone down so far) and feel good but end up in A&E? Or stop and prematurely die of obesity related diseases. It’s all so overwhelming

[@kettlemang]

As a dietitian if that's working for you, you don't have any deficiencies from blood tests (there can be defiency risks of water soluble vitamins e.g. vitamin B1, B6, B7, b12) and you have enough protein (usually a fist size of meat at your main meals), you should be ok. We often tout that people shouldn't diet unless they can stick to it because most diets unfortunately inevitably fail. The main thing is whether it's sustainable for the person so they can maintain their weight management long term. If keto is working for you that's great! Keep it up! If it all feels overwhelming too, I heavily recommend seeing a dietitian as our whole role is to make it easier for people to maintain and provide personalised nutrition advice to the person so they don't feel as overwhelmed with what food choices they make. I hope this helps :) edited (made a faux pas, I said fat soluable but it's actually water soluable vitamins (since keto is mainly a fat based diet duh) and some minerals that are at risk of deficiency. Just want to reinterate, that diets are just diets, whatever works for people works for them, but understand there are many ways we can approach healthy diets.

[@montycora]

Don't stop doing something that works because some internet charlatans told you so. Why is his information more valuable than others? There is a ton of medical doctors and dietician behind the ketogenic diet. It is a 100 year old diet, far older than the standard american diet, but it is now considered a "fad" diet because people know nothing about it. Do your keto and as a dietitian myself I can tell you there is nothing wrong with it and if done with a dietitian, you wont end up anywhere except in better health.

[@jodybogdanovich4333]

I was so excited when I was losing weight wit keto, until I saw what iy did to my cholesterol/lipid panel. Every body is unique, and unfortunately my family history of hypercholesterolemia forced me to get off the keto diet. I am, however, better at carb-cutting, as recommended by my rheumatologist.

[@montycora]

@@jodybogdanovich4333 - no, you are not unique, this happens a lot. In fact, in the first 3 months they will be a bit off, but then they go back to normal. You have to see that keto is not a diet, it is a metabolic state. You are switching ALL your mitochondria to burn fat instead of glucose, you will need to give your body time to adapt. The first months lipid panels will be bizarre because your body is still getting adjusted to dealing with fats more efficiently. And there are a lot of things we can do to modify that if it persists. You can change the type of fats, you can supplement key nutrients you might be deficient... You need a dietitian guiding you to fix these little issues along the way, but you can do it even with your family history, but the diet will have to be adjusted to your needs.

[@mysteryegg340]

@@kettlemang Thank you for replying. Yes that helps. I do try to get my fats from sources like avocado, nuts, olive oil rather than dairy but I think I might get some blood work done to be on the safe side.

[@ramon6754]

Your body doesn't care about your feelings on diet trends

[@ziilux84]

I expected something more than the usual criticism with no real arguments. Dr. Eric Westman would definitely have arguments in favour of the therapeutic ketogenic diet. But here I heard just the regular things that touched those diets just overall and even provided anecdotal evidence. Well, you have to do better to persuade people not to try diets that have been working so often. Of course there are many misconceptions on the internet, but you have to be objective and not to diminish the success of specific diets even if mainstream science tells you to ignore it, which is called ignorance. Thank you.

[@GsGeorg]

What is your opinion of the practice methods of Dr David Unwin, of Norwood Surgery in Southport?

[@joanneclark8256]

Doesn't sugar and seed oils cause inflammation?

[@Haveagodday-w8m]

Dr Karan pls stop associating the word guru with pseudo scientist. Guru is a teacher with a vast knowledge on a subject. Let's not disrespect that.

[@dalyxia]

It might be that the word Guru has been used alot by charlatan's in pseudoscience and therefor was tainted by the actions of those people. For example: The swastika used to be a symbol of peace, then some austrian painter used it... Or the Divers sign language for OK is being used by white supremacists to sign WP. Its still the OK sign but it is significantly tainted by the actions of some bad actors.

[@ricolives1166]

27:15 I've heard that seed oils such as canola and sunflower yes cause inflammation. Also spread the growth and strength of cancer cells AND alzheimers. At one point we need to start asking why are so many people are gaining weight and obese? Ever since the 50s, people have gained weight. Why? Because of processed foods, seed oils and frying food.

[@deedrole5296]

because of increased calorie intake and diminished physical activity Rico.

[@deedrole5296]

Alzheimer's and cancer risks increase as we get older and MORE AND MORE of us are fortunate enough to get to old age. That's because more of us have access to things that prevent or cure the things that used to routinely kill us.

[@RobbyRaccoon]

Sugar. It's in everything now, in places and in forms it once wasn't.

[@ricolives1166]

@RobbyRaccoon exactly. Sugar AND seed oils. Us humans evolved on eating fat from meat such as tallow. It's part of us. When we consume seed oils and sugar, our body literally doesn't know what to do with it.

[@patriciaZMarie2867]

​@@RobbyRaccoonwhite granulated processed sugars have been around for hundreds and hundreds of years. The problem is a society of eating much much more, about less activity since things are easier for the modern life, plus the discoveries of the cancers are just that discoveries even decades ago these were unknown but existed. It's not that more people are getting cancer, it's that we now know these are cancers when before it's was still thought to be other types of illnesses. Autopsies weren't a big thing prior to the depression. People got sick with cancers and they were thought to be illness that already existed because of the symptoms

[@axtondragunov1784]

My mom is completely wrapped up in this shit and she goes down the rabbit hole becuase of her internet "research"

[@joanneclark8256]

Is she unwell? Maybe a doctor didn't help ?

[@judyjackson2260]

A keto diet is not well rounded. A vegan diet is not well rounded. Many beliefs we grew up with have been disproven such as cholesterol is bed (moderation important and control ldl), soy bad for you, salt bad (again moderation key), canola oil good, substitute sugars safe (not good for microbiome, Allulose an exception reportedly good for microbiome, Stevia and Monkfruit a lesser evil), eggs bad, tallow and lard bad (moderation key). Limit sugar, very limited processed foods, more fruits and vegetables, less meat more fatty fish. Spices good. Seeds and nuts good. Limit preservatives, additives, emulsifiers and other unnatural substances. Some of these are proven poisons or cancerous especially in high amounts. Use good sense. Doctors have protocols and prescribe drugs excessively. They have little training in nutrition or holistic natural remedies. Doctors have their place and fill a need but wise healthy eating and living often can lead to your body healing itself.

[@joanneclark8256]

What seed oils are ok???? What about the temperature it's cooked at?

[@1s_that_a_j0j0_reference]

Basically - If you’re fat, eat less. If you’re sick, do an elimination diet. If you’re unhealthy, treat junk food as a treat. Everything else is up to preference.

[@CptApplestrudl]

For general health simply eat a healthy varied balanced diet (protein, carbs, some healthy fats, veggies, water, salt, low sugars and as much fresh as possible). Get enough sleep. ~8h Remove stress wherever possible. Move / exercise Get outside and tank some sunlight. Do this and you will find yourself with a solid base for general health. AFTER that you can weed out oils you dont like or stuff you dont react well to.

[@joanneclark8256]

Carbs as in??? Complex or refined rice ?

[@shoobyd00]

I’m a GP, and I agree with everything said but I think you’ve missed your own point about public perception of advice from a authoritarian position. Lots of medical jargon, which can at times come across as pompous, albeit we in the medical profession just talk this way. This is why the layman are hooked to these influencers who in their very presence are the complete opposite of medical professionals. A hook as simple as “wake the f*** up” is as simple enough to get 3.9 million followers, as opposed to half that by Dr Karan. It’s the blind leading the blind.

[@ClassicJukeboxBand]

Wow, an arrogant GP...so your education makes you automatically correct? You obviously can't think as critically as a guy like me who never graduated college...

[@Mosby-z8c]

Why did I begin just intermittent fasting for weight loss, just to have it debunked 😩 oh well, the disciplin has gotten to do go excerise more also. Dr. Karan do you have any recommendations for weight loss then, if intermittent fasting provides no benefits?

[@Mosby-z8c]

I'm also increasing my probiotic (milk kefir) and prebiotic intake for better gut health.

[@iconoclastic23]

If something's working for you, don't stop just because someone online doesn't believe in it. You'll find credible and persuasive online personalities on both sides of every issue. Every body is different, so I find the best thing is to experiment and find what works for me then stick to it even if I come across skepticism about it.

[@Mosby-z8c]

Oh well. All my recent health improvements get shut down.

[@Mosby-z8c]

@@iconoclastic23 Don't worry I wont. And they did not say there is anything bad with intermittent fasting, just that it does not show to have all the benefits that proponents say. If I end up in caloric deficit without any deterioration to my health, its all good. I know wanna know if there is anything out there, that actually shows improved weight loss or help managing urges or hunger. I'm not going on ozempic tho, this gotta be a lifestyle change, not just a band aid.

[@tessaoshea5697]

If it works for you, go for it. I don't eat between 8pm and 10am. I don't expect any magic from it. I just eat less this way because I find it easier to wait for food if I know I'll then feel full for the rest of the day. If I start eating at 5am when I wake up you'd be amazed how many calories I can consume!

[@ramon6754]

Best thing one can do is not be obese and just maintain your weight after that, however is it is easiet for you

[@deedrole5296]

How do they explain how taking olive oil and high fat diets "flush out" a stone?

[@novanomi3362]

The idea is that the gallbladder doesnt create enough bile if you eat low fat, which increases the chances of gallstones. I have not looked into it much though.

[@ThePieMaster219]

@@novanomi3362 Though I think this idea, in this context, is kind of like "If your sink or toilet is clogged, then put more shit/water in it, EVENTUALLY it's gotta give and flush itself out" Except the human body and the gallbladder specifically does not have an infinite "dumping ground" where eventually enough bile would force the gallstone out. And even in real life, try doing that with a clogged pipe and all one would end up is with a flooded house and an elevated bill for their plumber. What a horrible idea...

[@madagrosu1713]

​​@@ThePieMaster219my gallblader got obturated, I was shiting white,and peeing like coca cola,I took capsule of magnesium,100ml olive oil mixed with 100ml lemon juice,amd lay on your right side,for about 1h ,and yes it worked,I flushed out hundreds of cholesterol stones.

[@juliamanning2658]

Eating too many carbs causes gall stones. The gall bladder is there to digest fat, it gets out of practice if you eat high carb so the gall bladder cannot expel it's contents appropriately causing sludge and eventually stones.

[@MaokiDLuffy]

Just saw the ad for a " light worker" b4 this vídeo lol

[@joanneclark8256]

Pcos ... insulin resistance from carbs and sugar no? My a1c 5.7 BUT MY 2HR INSULIN FAST AND C PEPTIDE ARE HIGH . SO NOW WHAT?

[@joanneclark8256]

My family doc said 5.7 is ok wth? Many years pcos insulin resistance cause didn't check 2 hr insulin fasting

[@Daniel-bm3fm]

I wouldn't take dietary advice from someone who is clearly overweight. Especially not a 'Doctor'. And no, seed oils are not ok. People just don't want to sacrifice their favourite foods. Sad...

[@skeptik-ci5xo]

This has been so such a sobering interview, and we need more experts like Alan Flanagan (with whom I was unfamiliar previous to watching this video and am now a huge fan) to ref the extreme sports of health science misinformation. It has become exceedingly difficult to discriminate between fact and fad when it comes to health science these days, even for those of us who consider ourselves diligent in our critical thinking skills. I am not on social media, but I watch all manner of KZbin content to see what's out there. I like to familiarize myself with all sides of the debates and controversies because it fascinates me. But it is concerning how many people blindly accept medical and nutritional advice from unverified online media sources. The voices of reason are not provocative, but that is a good thing when it comes to health and safety. Thank you!

[@Jipnag]

Can I still listen to Dr Tim Spector or not 😂

[@anshadedavana]

The truth is that there is no clear answer to food and nutrition. If a Doctor thinks that he knows everything about diet, then he is misinformed. Because a Doctor's knowledge came from med school and their syllabus is based on ongoing practices, research etc. However we can't completely rely on research data. They are often contradictory and biased. So applies commonsense and practical evidence on top of any advice is necessary. For example, anybody can understand the fact that ultra processed foods like bakery items, table sugar etc aren't natural foods and may cause more damage than good to your body. It's also easy to understand that excess consumption of carbs may lead to obesity and diabetics. Our country itself is an example.. People here over consume grains, sweets etc and as a result has a large number of diabetic patients. So practicing moderation and avoiding ultra processed foods are nothing but commonsense. Then there is the question of what we should eat, what diet to follow. My evidence based answer is that a balanced diet which is primarily plant based but with lean meat like fish as proteen source. That's the kind of diet communities with the highest lifespan and quality of life follows. The Mediterranean diet is an example which comes in this category. Hong kong is another example. All these places have beyond 80 average life expectancy. On the other hand, Indians who over consume grains and sweets only have 60 years of average lifespan. Moderation and variety in diet seems to be the key to living a healthy life.

[@joanneclark8256]

What if you have pcos??? My 2 hr insulin fasting is high so is c peptides ... what foods are ok??????

[@shamkulkarni1367]

I am using CGM since 1 month. And found it very useful. I have cut out wheat and rice and using pearl millet instead. Glucose surge now only 40 instead of 120 before

[@ab-js2gw]

All I know is next big pandemic we'll be losing a lot of people.

[@Dietconsulting]

Cross-over heaven for dietitians!

[@polibm6510]

"Seed oils are healthy!" Oh, I see. Flanagan is a stand-up comedian! Am I right? And Karan is not doing badly either.

[@elijahmandeville8475]

Seed oils are healthy. There isn’t any concrete evidence showing adverse effects in relation to other fats being used. In fact, the evidence shows the opposite when compared to saturated fats.

[@polibm6510]

@@elijahmandeville8475 "In fact, the evidence shows the opposite when compared to saturated fats." As I said, they are unhealthy

[@elijahmandeville8475]

@@polibm6510 you misread the comment. I said there’s no evidence showing that seed oils have adverse effects, they actually show positive (the opposite of adverse) effects compared to saturated fats (which show adverse effects on health)

[@polibm6510]

@@elijahmandeville8475 I read it correctly. But saturated fats are healthy, so fats with the opposite properties are not. Regarding unsaturated fats: the body rebuilds its own structures from fats. Seed oils are liquid at room temperature and body temperature is even higher. It does not make sense that restored body structures are more stable from unsaturated fats than from saturated. What do you think?

[@Yajoy-kh3kc]

​@@polibm6510"saturated fats are healthy because they are solid at room temperature, which makes them better to rebuild our also solid body tissues" may be the funniest and craziest online quack statement I have read in a very long time. Absolutely hilarious. Imagine having any confidence in navigating the world with such a lack of thinking skills.

[@capitalisa]

Well, you just lost all credibility. I suspected as much due to some of your recent guests, but now it's clear you are no different than any other medical professional who clings to dogma. Go with God.

[@julijakeit]

EXCUSE ME, if a rat died after eating transfats from seed oils I am not touching it!

[@tearsintherain6311]

A rat will die after eating anything in high enough amounts

[@tearsintherain6311]

In fact many rats died after drinking just water, will you also not touch it?

[@Dietconsulting]

Trans fats are processed seed oils

[@Haveagodday-w8m]

Why are the views so less?

[@ConnorNasta]

Because most people don’t care about actual scientific discussions

[@fuzzybro9000]

Most people's attention spans are too short these days to watch these longer videos

[@umeshudeer1]

yes!!!!! Absolutely not a fan of the Glucose G.

[@muntahafaiaaz]

loved it!

[@TT3TT3]

Doc Karan doesn't even believe that pesticides can affect our health.

[@alan36789]

Wow. You guys are amazing.

[@esmereldaweatherwax7230]

So fascinating and informative that I've watched it twice so far. The little slip at the end ("newshitting", corrected to "nutrition") gave me my first laugh of the day...and the second one, too. Thank you!

[@elzee4253]

How to spot charlatan online? You just interviewing one!

[@tobywindgassen8427]

I know someone on medical keto to treat their schizophrenia. Supposedly theyve reached a point where theyve almost completely weened off of their schizophrenia medication. So, is the medical keto unhealthy in your opinion?

[@kettlemang]

Often when this is the case there is usually insufficient evidence for health professionals to tick of these are adequate treatments for in this case of schizophrenia. It takes a lot of evidence to really recommend it to people to know it may work because it may just work for your friend here but ultimately no one else. Then as discussed in this video, could have health implications for others. As a dietitian if it's working for them, they feel healthier and more sound of mind id encourage them to continue it but try to ensure that their keto diet is well balanced across the food groups and adequate protein. Diversity is still really important even on speicifc diets.I hope this helps.

[@jodybogdanovich4333]

I also know of people who are keto for control of their epilepsy

[@ThePieMaster219]

@@jodybogdanovich4333 This right here is well known in the medical field (and even taught as such in medical schools- I should know as I study medicine). It is however the first I'm hearing about keto for schizophrenia though.

[@tessaoshea5697]

Because eating animal fat food is great! And someone is telling you it's ok.

[@sacrosankt3892]

Wow, i completely misjudged you

[@tomandersen7343]

Where are your results in diabetes remission? Where are your studies in lmhr? Best word to describe you: Consensus singers 😉

[@sjay6668]

Can you explain reasons or the need for tinctures -JACEEN especially being targeted at young lads.

[@sillyjellyfish2421]

Tincture is just a fancy word for stuff in water. If you dumped a tea bag into a cup of cold water and let it sit in the fridge overnight you get a tea tincture. The question is - what is in the water, what does it do to your body, and whether or not you actually need it. You got a scrape on your hand, it stings when you leave it just alone to heal naturally, but hate the feeling of oily creams? Pop that baby into a camomile tincture for half an hour twice a day and it may help you to soothe the itchiness. But the whole shebang about 5 different overpriced tinctures from exotic spices and goat hooves or whatever to add to your bath water or something... yeah, that's a quack

[@TaoMoksha]

Great video! I learned a lot. Thank you :)

[@erika_katrien]

low hanging fruit

[@deborahholt228]

So why did my late husband go blind when ingesting artificial sweeteners.

[@timfuggle3960]

Be very careful n weary about taking any advice from an Irishman as they often get things mixed up and confused n therefore give incorrect and inaccurate advice, such as in this video.

[@mimii3000]

I dunno that dude with the brown shirt does not look healthy. He looks overweight. Why should I believe that he knows anything about being healthy?

[@shelldie8523]

Meh let the UK gene pool clean itself 6:49

[@pursuingtruth13]

Algorithm

[@lamMeTV]

Podcasts are not content

[@adelinlivegaming8835]

"People need to be canceled" Don't you think you canceled enough people?

[@tearsintherain6311]

If their posts are killing people it’s only fair

[@wendys9500]

@@sq5lmao that makes so much more sense, I was surprised to hear a medical professional resort to using such a political internet buzzword

[@TheSimonTemplar1]

1st!🎉

[@snowie1]

Amazing🎉

[@musicalnishanth6531]

3rd!

[@milaunipatel1762]

2nd!