Secrets on Backs of Paintings & Negotiating by Dr. Lori

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Dr. Lori

Dr. Lori

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@joebolling
@joebolling 3 жыл бұрын
Ok I’m hooked. If only I’d known there were university classes and degrees associated with evaluating paintings! Thirty years too late, but how exciting!
@Bodycomp101
@Bodycomp101 5 жыл бұрын
I love smart people who are so passionate about their craft. Dr. Lori is one of those people :)
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@rickilynnwolfe8357
@rickilynnwolfe8357 6 жыл бұрын
This woman is the smartest woman I know !!! She's great 💜
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ricki
@pennydaytreasures8173
@pennydaytreasures8173 5 жыл бұрын
Helping my mom downsize and get rid of a lot of clutter. Your videos have helped me figure out things that may be of more value. Enjoy watching them. You have a lot of varied knowledge
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 5 жыл бұрын
Happy to help Crystal. It cost me a lot of tuition money to get that knowledge. 😊 I help many people downsize by visiting their homes and sorting the trash from the treasure. Many items in 1 hour I get to it all.
@pennydaytreasures8173
@pennydaytreasures8173 5 жыл бұрын
Lol I wish you could help me!!! I’m pretty good about sorting through stuff. Plus when I’m question I have a mother in law who has antiqued for many years so I can get her opinion too. Mostly though it’s just packing everything up to haul it out. Then decide keep, donate, yard sale, sell on line. It’s just a long process. But we are getting there!
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Crystal, I'm not lol-ing. I can help. I help a lot of people downsize giving the correct information. See the ways I can help on my website.
@bobeskin
@bobeskin 2 жыл бұрын
You are a joy to watch, plus bonus I learned something I did not know about artwork. Thanks, Dr. Lori!!
@FAITHM100
@FAITHM100 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Doctor Laura; You are highly appreciated and valued!
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 6 жыл бұрын
Thx and share
@angeliathompson837
@angeliathompson837 4 жыл бұрын
I am a fan of yours DR LORI! I WATCH U ALMOST EVERY NIGHT! ENJOY AND JUST LV U!
@tracycameron2580
@tracycameron2580 5 жыл бұрын
I am loving you Dr. Lori. I studied theatre in school, we had to take art history classes. I did really well in those courses just because I loved learning about the two subjects at the same time! So interesting, I am really enjoying all your videos.
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tracy!
@flippingforreal109
@flippingforreal109 6 жыл бұрын
Wow Dr. Lori you are wonderful, it's would be very difficult for me to identify a piece of Art by such a little space. I continue to learn so much from you videos and now I share them on my Facebook page so other people can learn as well.
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing and I’m happy you still are learning. Don’t be so hard on yourself. Remember I spent years in school. Give yourself some time to learn.
@catherinelui4903
@catherinelui4903 5 жыл бұрын
I am a new fan of yours Dr. Lori, thank you so much!
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 5 жыл бұрын
Welcome. Thanks for watching and don’t forget to share.
@adambrown9105
@adambrown9105 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking me to vintage art/print/lithograph/frame school
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 4 жыл бұрын
Happy to hear you are learning. I've got several videos on this topic and more to come. Check out the playlist if you like :)
@divineangelic2727
@divineangelic2727 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Dr Lori. I’m really starting to take a much better look At items I bought back in day and with loupe seeing marks I never knew was there thank you
@marthacurry5081
@marthacurry5081 2 жыл бұрын
WOW I JUST STUMBLED UPON YOU AT 10:00AM THIS MORNING...I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS AND TEACHINGS I HAVE LEARNED A LOTIN 1HOUR AND 40 MINS.
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful!
@monique804
@monique804 3 жыл бұрын
Dr. Lori , just found your u tube channel…. I love you , you are amazing and so entertaining to learn from … I’m 50 and love antiques please continue to educate the young on such timeless pieces.love from sunny Fl. ☀️☀️
@lancesheppard1205
@lancesheppard1205 3 жыл бұрын
I love all of your videos and your personality. You always tell it like it is. ❤
@kevinbender6153
@kevinbender6153 5 жыл бұрын
New fan here. Lori is #1. Thanks!
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 5 жыл бұрын
Welcome, nice to meet you. Thanks for taking the time to write!
@asphaltgypsy868
@asphaltgypsy868 5 жыл бұрын
Knowledge AND humor! Loving it!!
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 5 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it. Don't forget to share the knowledge and humor with a link to the video. Thanks
@donnahague8983
@donnahague8983 4 жыл бұрын
So you went to Michigan 💙💛💙. Awesome...I live in Clarkston, Michigan...not too far from Ann Arbor...
@jjimenezbaca7238
@jjimenezbaca7238 6 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love your videos! Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for letting me know. Pay it forward and share my vids so others enjoy them too.
@margaretstoner4701
@margaretstoner4701 5 жыл бұрын
I think this LADY is my BESTEE. Her knowledge is incredible! I am also amused by her lovingly kindness and raw. She WOULD PUT ME IN check so quick...my head head would spin like that exorcist girl. I love Dr Lori.Rare and RAW ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Margaret
@rexine4748
@rexine4748 4 жыл бұрын
Dr.Lori,Love you so much. You make me feel good while learning!!Bless you and all your!! Thank-You!!!
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 4 жыл бұрын
Love you!
@wendinovak4939
@wendinovak4939 5 жыл бұрын
Please come to GrandJunction Colorado!! Dr Lori❤️
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 5 жыл бұрын
Wendi, I travel everywhere. A group has to invite me to present my show. Many tell their local fair, festival, home & garden expo to host my appraisal show. Keep up with my schedule at www.DrLoriV.com/events. Hope to see you 😊
@carmelitamarshall8534
@carmelitamarshall8534 4 жыл бұрын
@@DrLoriV I learn a lot. I know not to stand my books up. And to look at more yard sales. I will wait for you to come to Highland, Calif. I will pray you do come.
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 4 жыл бұрын
@@carmelitamarshall8534 Along with praying, tell a expo, home & garden show, library, museum, bank, etc to host my events. That's how I get back to California :)
@lorideann
@lorideann 4 жыл бұрын
You are truly amazing Dr. Lori , really love watching your videos so much info. love your since of humor and charm. Good stuff
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! Happy to hear you are enjoying the vids!
@elhadjiamadoujohnson4166
@elhadjiamadoujohnson4166 6 жыл бұрын
Packed with information and funny thank you!!!
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 6 жыл бұрын
As always thanks for the input. Glad you enjoy. Don’t miss my other vids on my website too at www.DrLoriV.com/videos
@user-kz3sz6in8f
@user-kz3sz6in8f 5 жыл бұрын
I just found my new best friend! What fun she is !!!!!
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Donna. Don’t forget to share the fun.
@monicabermea7652
@monicabermea7652 4 жыл бұрын
Me too. 😆
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 4 жыл бұрын
@@monicabermea7652 Did I miss you in today's premiere and live chat?
@monicabermea7652
@monicabermea7652 4 жыл бұрын
@@DrLoriV yes. I just started watching awhile ago. I think you are awesome 🎶 I have so much to learn.
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 4 жыл бұрын
@@monicabermea7652 Thanks. If you want, feel free to join us. Right now I'm doing live chats and watch parties on Sundays at 5 PM et. If you subscribe and ring the bell you should get a notification from YT.
@nescafeshorts1900
@nescafeshorts1900 4 ай бұрын
Love her energy❤
@ayokay123
@ayokay123 Жыл бұрын
Sure wish you'd come to Chicago. You're great entertainment!
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV Жыл бұрын
Love to return! Need an invite from a venue, group, etc. Everyone in Chicago needs to tell a group to host me!
@Bickidan
@Bickidan 6 жыл бұрын
“I don’t want guests, so don’t come over.” Lori is kindred!
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 6 жыл бұрын
:)
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 5 жыл бұрын
lol. If I didn't want people to know something, would I post it on the internet? :)
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry I missed the joke. Who needs all the work of having guests :)
@tbrockton356
@tbrockton356 3 жыл бұрын
I love it!!! I feel the same way Dr. Lori does. Don't come over. I don't want any company. I don't have to hear if I need a new couch etc. I LOVE DR. LORI. She is entertaining me while I learn so much listening to what she shares with all of us.
@elenabauer779
@elenabauer779 5 жыл бұрын
Your amazing I got so much from yards sales goodwills and other thrift stores it catches my eye I’m glad I found u...
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, it’s out there. Glad you enjoyed the vid
@MelliaBoomBot
@MelliaBoomBot 3 жыл бұрын
she really is a shining star x
@fairygodmomma2313
@fairygodmomma2313 2 жыл бұрын
Celeste! And a senior! Is my name, but it wasn't me.😁 thank you Dr. Lori
@shellydehart8217
@shellydehart8217 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dr.Lori that’s great information. ♥️ ur shows 😊
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 4 жыл бұрын
You are so welcome, thanks for watching!
@gailresources8120
@gailresources8120 5 жыл бұрын
Another good one. I’m a nut for sweaters. But now that I’m old I get too hot! Tell us about your sweaters!
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 5 жыл бұрын
Key to sweaters ... No ironing 😊
@LongTrout
@LongTrout 3 жыл бұрын
You are a funny lady Dr Lori....Love your humor.
@patriciaroe4561
@patriciaroe4561 5 жыл бұрын
Love her shows. However from my knowledge the salvation Army and maybe the Goodwill do not negotiate, once that sticker (which is sometimes too high) is put on, it stays that way. At least in Scranton, Pa it does.
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 5 жыл бұрын
You can always ask.
@sheri0082
@sheri0082 5 жыл бұрын
Goodwill negotiated a set price on pieces they were selling separate. Paid $4 for what they originally wanted $9 for
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 5 жыл бұрын
@@sheri0082 Thanks for sharing Dawn. It pays to ask.
@lisar313
@lisar313 5 жыл бұрын
I believe it’s different depending on where you live. I live in a very populated area. SA and GW’s here do not sell for less. If you want it for half off you have to wait for that sticker color of the week. SA won’t sell you anything that has no price on it. They claim it’s sent back to corporate for pricing. Wish they were nice enough to negotiate with you. Oh well....
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 5 жыл бұрын
@@lisar313 Many things will vary from region to region, store to store. No harm in asking.
@TobiasTornero
@TobiasTornero 11 ай бұрын
Dr. Lori good afternoon I really like your video's i've been watching for while.. I found a painting in a flea market out here in Mexico baja California... i haven't been able to find any info. The painting is signed by PaRino ..
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 11 ай бұрын
I can help. Need to see it. Check my website for details.
@lenettadrawhorn5901
@lenettadrawhorn5901 2 жыл бұрын
I Love what your doing I just found your chanel and your platform is one of the best I've seen hands down Where can I get your help and advice wise one on a couple of items I have
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome! See my website for details.
@ronniea.4830
@ronniea.4830 Жыл бұрын
Hello, Many years ago my mom bought at an old estate 2 painting that looks like Degas Day at the races paintings including his signature. The canvas is secured by nails, and the backing is deep yellow and looks like it was varnished. did Degas use to do understudies for his painting?
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV Жыл бұрын
I can help identify your paintings. Send me Photos. Use the form on my website at www.drloriv.com/find-values/online/online-appraisal-form/
@cherinance2192
@cherinance2192 5 жыл бұрын
I just found you. Do you ever come to California?
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Cheri, welcome. Yes, I was just in California. Keep tabs on my schedule always at www.DrLoriV.com/events. Hope to see you.
@kaywallace6139
@kaywallace6139 5 жыл бұрын
Dr. Lori is a wild woman. Bright and funny.
@greenglass2
@greenglass2 3 жыл бұрын
have you valued Stephen Kaye paintings? I have a 40" x 50" abstract. the odd frame/canvas has a 4" bevel.
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 3 жыл бұрын
Send me Photos. Use the form on my website. To get to the form, watch a video and click on the "i" icon in the top right corner. See my face? Click on that and it will take you to the Send Photos form on my website.
@lindanorris2455
@lindanorris2455 3 жыл бұрын
i learn so ooooooooo much from you!!!
@shellstoke2969
@shellstoke2969 4 жыл бұрын
Can you please tell me when abouts Winsor & Newton 38 rathbone place, was used as the stamp on canvas? I have a dirty old looking oil painting,and it's got that stamped on the back of it,,thanks
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 4 жыл бұрын
I can help with your painting, but I need to see your piece to verify what you really have. For example I have to see if your stamp is original to the piece. Can you send me photos?
@dianebelew4394
@dianebelew4394 4 жыл бұрын
I sure wish I knew what you knew!!
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 4 жыл бұрын
You can start by saving and using the Binge link kzbin.info/aero/PL384695BCA1841B8F :)
@singingcowboy674
@singingcowboy674 5 жыл бұрын
I go to Goodwill for all mine. Sadly they do not allow negotiations.
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard many people at my events say they’ve negotiated at Goodwill. You can always try.
@singingcowboy674
@singingcowboy674 5 жыл бұрын
@@DrLoriV Yep! All of them are districted seems like it. I travel for a living and some have actually got a sign saying attempts they count as theft and if anyone DOES negotiate with you successfully they will count that as theft. It's crazy. I don't shop at those. They are way to anal.
@singingcowboy674
@singingcowboy674 5 жыл бұрын
Dr. Lori could I shoot you an email?
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 5 жыл бұрын
Crazy.
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 5 жыл бұрын
You can always send inquiries using my website at www.DrLoriV.com/contact
@rpcummings51
@rpcummings51 3 жыл бұрын
I looked at a picture that looked old today but the frame looked new. I turned it over and peeked a little bit more, looking at the staples etc, color...and Dr. Lori came in my head, color, nails, staples etc. I then wondered if the picture was old put into a new frame? Either way, I left it not feeling confident in my decision and Dr. Lori videos running through my brain! Lmao!
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 3 жыл бұрын
Go with your gut, hopefully I've helped a little too :)
@ZeroSnake
@ZeroSnake 5 жыл бұрын
This is awewome information
@cynthialee3228
@cynthialee3228 5 жыл бұрын
So informative!🙋
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Cynthia
@idiomhunters
@idiomhunters 3 жыл бұрын
Dr. Lori i need help or guidance with an artwork i thrifed from goodwill. It states “ Vincent van dogh” and has museum name. I’m not sure of its authenticity to put a value for sale
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 3 жыл бұрын
Send me Photos. Use the form on my website. To get to the form, watch a video and click on the "i" icon in the top right corner. See my face? Click on that and it will take you to the Send Photos form on my website.
@orbs1062
@orbs1062 5 жыл бұрын
I purchased a small painting back in the mid-nineties. Not what I would call a pretty piece of art, but I had a friend who no longer wanted it and swore it was valuable. I've shown it to three different appraisers who seemed quite shocked. I can't have it evaluated by the artist's estate since I cannot travel. My piece was described as a gouache'. And the last appraiser who saw it, claimed that there was a "museum note," on the back, in pencil. I had been unable to determine what was written. He claimed it said, "Chagall out of frame." The piece is apparently very famous. Painted on heavy, aged paper, appearing to be torn from a tablet at the top with a center pin hole. Just like the one shown on the Met's site. However no one will speak with me about it since it's not been authenticated by the artist's estate, but again, I can' t travel. I did send transparencies to the artist's estate three years ago, and I did have an appointment with them, but my life changed very quickly and I was unable to go. All three appraisers who have seen the painting, in person, gave it a very, very high valuation, but I'm not sure I believe them.
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 5 жыл бұрын
If you want an expert, I can help using my Ph.D. in art history and museum experience.
@orbs1062
@orbs1062 5 жыл бұрын
I would love to have help. I see that you'll be in Atlanta (home for me), in April. If things work out, perhaps we can get together. I'd really much rather you see it in person instead of an image. Thank you so much for answering.
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 5 жыл бұрын
I look at paintings all the time from photos. The Ph.D. in art history allows me to offer my expertise that way. You can also wait for me to return to Atlanta for an event. Up to you.
@grammiesawesomeadventures
@grammiesawesomeadventures 4 жыл бұрын
Great info thank you!!!
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 4 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@ROCK-HUNTER-USA
@ROCK-HUNTER-USA 3 жыл бұрын
I want to know which thrift store negotiates
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 3 жыл бұрын
Many do.
@TheDarkDresser
@TheDarkDresser 6 жыл бұрын
Lol, Dr. Lori gave them a dose of stand of comedy along with the appraisals.
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 6 жыл бұрын
It's Dr. Lori's Antiques Appraisal Comedy Show! Coming to a town near you at www.DrLoriV.com/events. You gotta have some fun :)
@Kim-Art
@Kim-Art 6 жыл бұрын
Wow! Thank you Lori. Wonderful information.
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Kim, Happy you learned something. Don't forget to share with others on your social media for example so they can learn too.
@Kim-Art
@Kim-Art 6 жыл бұрын
Your age spot analogy was such a creative piece of info. I know it will stick like glue in my mind. 😊 I'm very interested in vintage jewelry, however vintage decorative arts, such as statues, glass objets, as well as wall art are beautiful items worth learning about. Thanks for responding. Have a good week. 😊
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 6 жыл бұрын
I've got videos on all of those topics. Plus, many more on my website at www.DrLoriV.com/videos that aren't available on YT.
@areeznadeem6868
@areeznadeem6868 6 жыл бұрын
I have one old painting 1878.
@crickettmoon7082
@crickettmoon7082 6 жыл бұрын
I've got a painting that is very small and very old, how do I know if it is worth appraisal? Appraisals are expensive!
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 6 жыл бұрын
Many of my events include a free appraisal paid for by the event's host. I have a Ph.D. in art history.
@crickettmoon7082
@crickettmoon7082 6 жыл бұрын
@@DrLoriV I see that you do online appraisals, and that may be my best option, you're not having any events near me soon.
@crickettmoon7082
@crickettmoon7082 6 жыл бұрын
If you had a photo, could you advise if it is worth paying for an appraisal and authentication?
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 6 жыл бұрын
New events are added all the time. I present 150 events a year, but I do look at photos too using the form on my website.
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 6 жыл бұрын
If when I review an online appraisal report submission and the item is not worth the fee, I tell you at no charge.
@patreeeekk97
@patreeeekk97 4 жыл бұрын
I have an old painting and i don't know what's the value of it.
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 4 жыл бұрын
Show it to me, I can help using my Ph.D. and art museum experience :) Send me photos using a form on my website.
@NorthwestNicholas
@NorthwestNicholas Жыл бұрын
I think I like the back of paintings more than the front.
@maryfalco9368
@maryfalco9368 3 жыл бұрын
$1????? MOST people will be insulted and not go down at all here. I'm just saying. If you REALLY love it offer 50%. But you are the PROFESSIONAL.👌
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry I don't agree. I hear the stories of people getting deals using my advice.
@lifeofmamatess1908
@lifeofmamatess1908 3 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@debraevans6620
@debraevans6620 3 жыл бұрын
I have a rembrandt painting the two philosophers dated 1934 don't know the value of it
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 3 жыл бұрын
Send me Photos. Use the form on my website. To get to the form, watch a video and click on the "i" icon in the top right corner. See my face? Click on that and it will take you to the Send Photos form on my website.
@dinacox1971
@dinacox1971 5 жыл бұрын
Love you Lori, but telling everyone to negotiate at Goodwill or most Thrift Store cannot negotiate. Think about it, these are essentially chain stores with hourly employees which do not have the authority to negotiate. Yes, if you are dealing with an owner at an independent store (which are disappearing fast) or garage sale or estate sale (especially if buying more than one item and on last day); not most thrift stores.
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 5 жыл бұрын
Dina, You'll never know unless you ask. I hear stories all the time of people asking for better prices at Goodwill. Many of those stories are of people who bought things, brought them to my events and told their stories.
@Kawaii159qwerthvd
@Kawaii159qwerthvd 4 жыл бұрын
❤️
@carolburnick9847
@carolburnick9847 3 жыл бұрын
Dr.Lori, You are amazing! Is 79 too old to start a LITTLE business. Carol,I am the one that loves Red also.
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 3 жыл бұрын
@@carolburnick9847 It's never too late to do anything!!
@katherinemabry4828
@katherinemabry4828 5 жыл бұрын
Can you appraise my piece I found in the trash 2 days ago? It looks really authentic to me, but my kids keep telling me it’s a print.. 17 and 15, they think they know everything! I want to say I was right! Lmao
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, I can settle the argument. I do it all the time. You can send me photos on my website or we could schedule a FaceTime or Skype call and I could tell everyone the answer live!
@1957bots8
@1957bots8 3 жыл бұрын
They get it nothing, why not get them to sell for less. 👍👍
@michelthor4117
@michelthor4117 6 жыл бұрын
She's wonderful but brutal at the same time.
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 6 жыл бұрын
MIchelle, I guess that's a compliment? How am I brutal?
@michelthor4117
@michelthor4117 6 жыл бұрын
@@DrLoriV It's a compliment and like your style it's to the point. Yesterday I purchased what I thought was a W. Lovell and realized it's probably not after watching your video...that's brutal. I purchased the painting because hes grand canyon painting sold for 13k.
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for clarifying. If you really want to know about the piece, you should have me review it.
@michelthor4117
@michelthor4117 6 жыл бұрын
@@DrLoriV I'm curious about the 30 minute video confrencing. How many items will you look at?
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 6 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I don't count the items during my calls, but I can look at a lot of stuff in 30 minutes. Depends on how many questions you have too. If you're interested in an appointment time, contact my office at www.DrLoriV.com/contact
@sineater6641
@sineater6641 3 жыл бұрын
Teach me .. also ur funny ..
@mobeatsmo
@mobeatsmo 4 жыл бұрын
We love your hips
@DrLoriV
@DrLoriV 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I think...lol. I am trying to love them too--just less of them.
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