HARD TRUTHS - DJI Avata 2 vs Fpv Drone 🔥

[@Phrancis5]

As an old-school analog FPV flyer, I wanted to finally go digital, but always balked at the price and honestly kinda tired of building and configuring stuff. I guess the new Avata is calling my name. It's not unlike the iPhone iMac vs Android PC debate. At some point you don't mind paying more for good performance and easy user experience, even if you're locked into that brand.

[@KindOldRaven]

Quick question if you happen to read this: did you end up getting the Avata or are you still considering your options? (if so: how are you liking it?)

[@nathanh2917]

Except with iPhones you get less performance and less user compatibility. But it does phone okay

[@hummerzdca]

I finally got mine a couple weeks ago, started flying in the garage to get to know the motion controller. First time, surprised I didn’t hit anything at all, (in Beginner Mode) Now been a couple times outdoors around the front of the house. Went out to field, and much better confidence, gradually getting the controls/settings in better touch. Did a few circles around myself, up to high, swoop downs etc. So far so good, not planning to get exotic like you, which is awesome! Flyin like grampa’ will have to do for now! LOL!🇺🇸

[@MrClydie_Po_Po]

Got the Avata 2...it's fun and it does good footage, but I'm also going down the route of the FPV hobby, as I'm just waiting to take receipt of the good old Nazgul Evoque f5 v2 with 03 onboard to use my DJI bits with. Looking forward to jumping down the rabbit hole!

[@mwhizzler476]

Do you have goggles 2 or integra?

[@brennanIX]

I think the Avata is hands down the better choice for a total beginner, without any gear. You get a good drone, with legit support, large user base, that's easy to use with multiple intuitive control systems. Then, you can upgrade to the FPV controller to get more skilled. Once you have the accessories, you can start getting into hobby building. I'm sure O4 units will be around soon, and honestly it's the best transmission system out there. You'll already have quality gear to use with a dedicated O4 unit on future FPV drones. It takes the guessing game out of picking the right parts, and what controller you should go with, and you get a conplete package that just works, and has future usability going forward. Plus, the Avata gets longer flight time than any kf these other little fpv drones, so more time to learn.

[@kiddmike.official]

Great video. I crashed my Avata 2 from a dive and hit a power line at about 23 meters up. It crashed on grass, granted, but not any damage to the prop guards. So I’m actually very impressed with the DJI plastic

[@edgararcega3046]

26:28 you are actually able to fine tune the up down/ left and right movement speeds in settings. By default these types of movements are set to low speed when using the motion controller but you can make it sonthat they are done more quickly with the joystick on the controller. I didnt know about this on my avata 1 until a few months in of owning it. The difference it made was huge. The avata became a lot more agile.

[@pixxair]

Great video. To pull the grommet for the camera back through the hole, tie a short length of 4 pound test fishing line to it and then pull it through the hole. A bit of water based lube helps. The line will come off easily at that point. I had to do this with my CineLog 3.5 on all four grommets due to a major crash. Easy!

[@FJano12]

Avata perfectly fine for me. I don’t want to get into FPV that much just casual flying..

[@IronMaidenless]

Right. DJI costumers rlly like getting robbed lol

[@dangerous8333]

@@IronMaidenless for what he's using it for he's not really getting robbed. he won't have to tinker with anything. and time is money.

[@AlfieDoug]

​@@IronMaidenless If you are going to try to appear clever change your costume.

[@johnnyjohnson6771]

I've had one for a couple of weeks now. Watch out, don't calibrate the gimbal as the calibration process can hang and you will have to re-flash the drone firmware. Regarding the roof inspection section and using the motion controller, you can hover over area of interest and use your micro multi axis stick on the motion controller to adjust your altitude without lateral motion and also when hovering and not touching first stage of throttle trigger, raising your hand up and down will adjust camera gimbal straight up or down which would be ideal for inspecting a roof gutter or underside of the eaves. Also there is a mode switch on the motion controller to more quickly change flight mode. You need to try Sport Mode. I have 40 acres of land and the Avata 2 will rip around the whole acreage at 35 MPH. I think the most compelling positive feature of this drone is the altitude stabilization aspect. It is rock solid in this regard. We need this capability for our custom done builds and various aftermarket offerings. My concerns mirror yours and the price of the batteries makes you feel like you've been ripped off for sure. Love your vids!

[@MattDvc]

Never flew manual or fpv before. Crashed my Avata 2 at least 10 times now.. Many times at 30+ mph. Trees, metal poles and even dove into ground twice. The worst was 35 mph and 15 mph vertical into ground after failing to pull up from S turn. Only had to replace 3 propellers so far. No other damage. I think it's more robust than it looks, and perfect for someone just starting. By the time I learn how to fly properly DJI will probably release O4 standalone.

[@DingleBerryschnapps]

Wow man you have some good luck. People have done less and things have broke. Regardless you're not using it for what it was designed for.

[@LordHolley]

I'm just sticking my toe into the Drone game. From what I can tell DJI doesn't offer a whole lot of support for anything more than a couple years old. It's like they want you to constantly have to buy their new stuff.

[@twonfu757]

I have the FPV and the Avata 2. Between them two drones i dont need any other. I enjoy the Avata 2 inside or out it fits all my needs.

[@rlm41]

Which one would U pick if had to choose one?

[@stratos7755]

The Avata 2 is amazing piece of tech. But it is mostly made for cinematic shots rather than generic/acro FPV.

[@TravelLensPro]

I have a DJIAvata2 and need a FPV Freestyle Drone with more Power than Avata2. Can i use my DJI Googles3 and DJI Controller3 for the GepRc DoMain or other Freestyle drones?

[@Piratepoilet]

You said it right there, crumple zone just like a car so it won't hurt so much when you fly it into yourself or someone else. I fly my mini 4 pro carefully and don't do anything stupid with it and haven't had a serious accident yet (touch wood) The drone itself cost me $2000 with all the bells and whistles and 4 batteries so it's not a cheap thing at all but it is a hole lot of fun

[@edgararcega3046]

Nice comparison. Live the back yard. Would you say the avata 1 has more durable prop guards? Ive also heard that the avata 1 is more repair friendly. Very modular compared to the 2

[@ryanisacuc8381]

Have you crashed your avatar 2 personally? I glitched and flew into a tree at 120ft, it landed directly on the guards and I was able to fly away with just some cosmetic scratches.

[@DanniSkovHglund]

What foam/gasket doyou have on your goggles 2, and are they comfy? Trying to figure out which foam to get for mine.

[@cG-es8mb]

I want to get into digital FPV. I like to fly fast. Don’t care about acrobat just flying fast around things and through things. What would be a good drone, goggles, and transmitter?

[@leonardoserra1243]

How much is the flight time of the small cinewhoop FPV drone? @Drone Camps RC

[@95lovi]

you can glue moosrubber foam bumpers on the avata frame it will help alot as a bumper. Form it wby sanding with seladhesive and you make your own custom bummpeers..

[@mikepatton8691]

Have you done this and if you have how did it affect the drone? Was the range or handling changed?

[@CarlBertossi]

Can I fly Gerp with Dji controller 3 with dji update ? wht do i need to get for gerp ? thanks, great channel btw

[@redtigerger3585]

Idk if they changed it on the avata 2 but the avata 1 it seems nice it recovers for you sometimes. Sometimes it tries to recover from a light crash where i would just shut off a normal fpv the avata would go into suicide mode and go full speed after the light glace into a tree or the driveway even after that continue to crash into stuff.

[@ZakViemon]

Can you reverse the up and down motion on the dji avatar 2 controller so that when you point it down it ascends? and when pointing up it descends?

[@edgararcega3046]

Ive seen a video where a person completely new to fpv flew the avata 2 for the 1st time. He crashed the avata 2 many times during that video. Once he even crashed it straight into the side of a rocky hill. At the end of the day the avata still worked fine. Only problem is that the video was sponsored by dji and dji even gave him that drone to review. Im wondering if all those crashes were legit

[@KindOldRaven]

I'm sure it can take a hit or two. It's just that *if* or *when* you do manage to crack the guards, you're replacing half the frame to fix it.

[@CarlBertossi]

btw I have Avata 2 now wonder, can I fly and control Gerp with DJI Controller 3 hope i make sense

[@nikosfpv]

How are you switching between acro and regular on the cinebot 25? And what is the Pairing process for the goggles and the 03 unit I just got a mobula 8 with 03 unit and I'm worried about the connection process

[@JoseHFrias-wy8il]

The avata 2 is not as fragile as you may think. I smacked it into my wooden fence this morning before it came to a stop and it made a loud thwap and bounced off like 6' before it smashed into my yard. Left a nice scuff in it but took it like a champ!

[@dronecamps]

Thank you for that! The more I fly mine dare I say… I’m falling in love with it.

[@95lovi]

Can you Tai chi slower with the cinemon whoop ? like stopping and crawling along in slo-mo ?

[@netlynker]

"Happiness is homemade" - I like it.

[@richardcarlisle6692]

Leaving toward the Avata 2. Seems like the Avata 2 is the better choice for video work while the Cinewhoop type drones are better for FPV flying/racing. Also like the tiltable gimbal on the Avata 2. I have a Mavic Pro and Phantom but no FPV gear, so starting from scratch on FPV. Cost is only around $100 more for the Avata 2 which comes with goggles 3, controller 3 and O4 video. So basically on the fence between the Geprc CineLog 25 and the Avata 2, but since my main interest is video production, leaning toward the Avata 2. Cost is about the same if I don’t buy the FPV controller and just use the motion controller.

[@edsonrodriguez4143]

Hi everyone, I have a question regarding my DJI Avata. I’m trying to use 4K at 60 fps with the ultra wide lens and HorizonSteady, but it seems like these settings are not compatible. Does anyone know why the DJI Avata restricts certain stabilization modes with specific resolutions and lenses? Is there any way to bypass these limitations or any recommended solutions?

[@95lovi]

Thanks for the review, I think what I have read in the net that the Avata 2 with the goggle 3 is the best way to go. Money is now issue so its the old saying ; he who buys cheap buys twice. I think the goggles are everything, and best in market at this time is the DJI goggle 3. I want to do bee flying, speeding around is nice , do that on my BMW, just want to hoover around the garden and trees here and there..

[@carliweise]

What is the pricing difference ?

[@brandon9689]

I've chosen the route of the Avata after about a month on a Tinyhawk 3 Freestyle. I crashed and knocked out 1 battery but the other stayed in and I think that caused a short. The stock AIO is back ordered, and I don't feel comfortable risking buying the wrong board elsewhere. I was getting decent at acro and the majority of my sessions ended with safe landings and not crashing. But I still think I have plenty to learn, and the Avata 2 with care refresh should allow me to focus on flying. By the time I build some skills I'm hoping the hardware will be unlocked and I can think about building an 03/04 quad.

[@adrienl.6581]

thank you for your video. I think that for a fair comparison, the controller 3 would be needed for this type of video. Have a great day.

[@BlueDroneBlues]

I have the Avata OG and Avata 2. Love the Avata 2. Actually enjoy the motion controller now. Had it doing some quick little races in my apartment and it flies pretty well. The Acro Mode is so much better on the Avata 2 than the OG. I wish I could just keep a good Goggles set I like and not feel I have to buy another one every time a new version is released. Great comparison and like your video.

[@cormac8613]

Just got my Avata 2 and its been a blast for a complete novice. Great video, thanks for the insights.

[@dronecamps]

Enjoy it!

[@chiefofgotham]

Omg timestamps!!! And great Video!😂🎉

[@jamesgrantham1743]

Avata 2 is made for content creators that have zero fpv skills. Anyone withing a hour could do as you have in this video and that’s what appeals to most. Will it ever be as good as a highly skilled fpv pilot NOPE but will it get footage most ppl are after yes it will

[@dronecamps]

I agree. ☝🏻

[@DingleBerryschnapps]

What about an Avata 2 in the hands of a highly skilled fpv pilot? Best of both worlds then, no?

[@bitsbytes123]

Literally has full manual mode.

[@Singkhorn.S]

Should I learn to fly acro first before getting these?

[@dronecamps]

You don’t need to but it helps. You can fly both of these in stabilize mode.

[@MattDvc]

By the way you can adjust all the speeds of the motion controller in the controller settings.

[@lokitexas1]

Doesn't the Air 3 run OS4 as well?

[@davidpe76]

Yes

[@troytmg]

Appreciating this video so far but the only 3 drones on O4 transmission is Avata 2, Mini 4 Pro and Air 3. The Mavic isn't on it

[@christopherconkright1317]

I find a small straw or hollow something i stuff the grom into it pull it through and then pull the straw makes it easy to put them on

[@autokanada]

Great video : I like vertical stability of Avata 2 indoors and outdoor

[@hummerzdca]

Great post! (Got some water in those gutters) Never flown FPV. But I have been thinking about getting an Avata 2 because I wanted to try FPV w/goggles with my Mini 4 Pro. But the cost to get goggles/controller alone, but for $500 more get the whole Avata 2 FlyMore kit with 3 batteries! Plus I like having blade guards vs open props indoors! Why not? Please help!

[@mssippijim]

I think the Avata 2 would be a good choice for someone wanting to test fpv waters. If you want hardcore fpv racing / freestyle, etc. there are probably better choices, but for casual fun with fpv, it's a blast. It's loads of fun with the motion controller to zip around a big back yard, a small park, etc. or even indoor area, and you have the extras of a dji drone. I don't think you would be disappointed in the least. Get the extra batteries though to save yourself some money. One is not enough.

[@BrianWood74]

Well, you probably already know this by now, but for those who may not... Those prop guards on the Avata 2 will take a beating, it would have handled your garden box crash just the same, maybe better than your other drone did. I have seen these things shake off HARD crashes and continue on.

[@DodgyDaveGTX]

From what I get, it's like owning a Macbook Pro vs a home-built gaming PC. DJI are basically the equivalent of Apple within the drone industry, on almost every level: Price, proprietary design, narrow cross-platform compatibility, typically more polished and way more accessible / easier to operate without having a deep understanding of the technology, but at the cost of customisability & freedom to tinker around with. Even right down to the similarity of their marketing and corporate identity. Shit... even the physical DJI shops that seem to be popping up all over the place, look _identical_ to Apple stores. Neither one is objectively superior, they simply cater to a different demographic, like with iPhones vs Android smartphones.

[@nathanh2917]

I wouldn't say the phone comparison for the drones is accurate. Do feel it's more akin to the pc versus MacBook though. Pc can be many different things from built piece by peice to prebuilt solutions. While the dji drones are more like MacBooks.

[@juls0432010]

Hi, I'm new to the channel and FPV. Love to get a 7 inch. Not into fpv racing. Enjoy your channel.

[@nachopinamar]

Gracias ! , ojalá pueda comprar alguno de los dos …, pero lamentablemente en mi país argentina , es imposible afrontar ese gasto … 😔 gracias por tus videos ! , seguiré volando el dji Phantom visión 2 …😢

[@Drone_Yorkshire]

Great video, I have an Air 3 and the Avata 2. completely agree on the build quality on the Avata 2 which is the worse part! wanting a 5" FPV for extra power in ACRO but now i'm stuck with O4 (goggles & Controller) it's a £1,000 bump as i'll need to purchase another O3 setup (Goggles, Controller) and drone to consider any other drone :(.... unles they release a FPV 2 with O4!!

[@bernardfouche5241]

It would be strange that no O4 VTX comes out at some point

[@rlm41]

I'm stuck between the Avata 2 or Air 3. My first drone, what would you get? Mainly just looking to have fun and taking some decent footage

[@genefoxgreenmountaindroning]

Great comparison thank you

[@Wildfrontier_adventures]

The avata 2 is very durable i have crashed it many times and the onky reason i broke a prop was i turtle mode it with a stick in the way

[@dragonsmugla]

As of today, 4K 100fps with the update and your backwards compatibility

[@AB-bu8ti]

What kind of backwards compatibility?

[@infinityphotorob]

To me the Avata is super cool but does not fit any need I have. I need sub 250 drones for flying around people for events. That is the only reason I got into FPV. The Avata is no where near this so no matter how cool it is, it does nothing for me. I actually broke my GEPRC prop guard last week. Lots of crashes lots of awkward indoor crashes, a Big roof bounce off my house, big bounce off concrete all as I was learning. Crashes so hard I blew the rubbers off the camera mount. But the thing that got it was attempting some flips in the yard and crashing in the grass. Luckily when I ordered my Cinebot. I ordered an entire spare frame. So I have every single part to replace. They also sent me a spare prop guard. I am going to try to super glue and baking soda back together to milk a little more life. But I proved to myself I am not really ready to flip. Or maybe I need to go in a big field and have way more altitude to recover. I do feel like the boat style build of the Cinebot25 is pretty robust. But it is a bit on the heavy side because of this. I need a 550 batt to get sub 250. I really do like how the Cinebot flys. It is much different from my Pavo20. I think the biggest difference is betaflight 4.4 vs 4.5. 4.5 is much more tunable for angle mode. I can make the Cinebot drive like it is on ice vs the pavo20 on the lowest settings is still on rails and very very responsive. It has definitely taken some tuning to get the feel I want.

[@appslagu4704]

will buy avata if they support 03 system

[@BigDuke6ixx]

The Avata 2 is all you need if you intend to fly within the recreational law.

[@kimgudboi]

Can I buy one of your goggles that you use the least? heheheh! Digital goggles are hard to come by on where I am.

[@dronecamps]

Sorry I don’t have digital goggle spares except for Walksnail. 😊

[@meteoroz]

I think you love the Avata but feel guilty about loving it 😆

[@gprov590]

Bro the cinebot lost prop leaves. And it still flies 😂

[@ShaneInseine]

I don't understand why you think the Avata 2 is so fragile. Mine seems strong as hell. I've looked around and haven't seen a whole lot of people complaining that it is fragile.

[@dronecamps]

You’re not on the right forums. I’ve seen many many photos of broken prop guards from guys I know and others.

[@ShaneInseine]

@@dronecamps I need to dig deeper! I was hoping this would be one I didn't need DJI Care for. Oops.

[@LenMiDrones_photography]

It's the new air 3 that has ocusync 4 not the mavic 3

[@dronecamps]

I guess Mavic 4 is coming soon then?

[@maurosk818]

I would love to get one of those googles you have that you don't use hahahaha 😇🤣 just saying though 😜

[@davesmith2150]

The avata 2 has flaws, it cant fly far and it shoots in a weird format that cant be viewed on most computers/ 4k tvs.

[@pspicer777]

I got one. Get one. Noob FPV'er I am. Great tool for flights around the farm. No fuss, no muss.

[@BooFPV]

don't crash and don't break it.. each DJI manufactured/plastic drone I've owned has been a money pit.. I don't like the idea of having a monthly dji bill or paying 2-3 times the value of a drone in yearly repairs, and you will if you're a moderate to daily flyer...and good luck fixing it on your own! It should be kind of expected given its flying capabilities and its' structural integrity.. You wouldn't want to fly in a plane or ride a submarine made of plastic now would you? and if so, you can expect a ton of maintenance. So Odd considering how intricate carbon fiber is to other drone companies. DJi really is about low cost vs high profits. They've got the "look" down though! Very stylish for what it is.

[@dronecamps]

For sure!

[@CD480]

your downspouts need cleaned. lol

[@EtherealPoof]

god can do anything, even fix chinese electronics.

[@dronecamps]

😂😂😂👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻