The Gen 3 Roaming Legendaries Are Glitchy and Terrible

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Droomish

Droomish

11 ай бұрын

Today we take a deeper, more technical dive into some legendary Pokemon from the Gen 3 games, specifically Entei, Raikou, Suicune, Latios, and Latias. In their Pokemon Ruby, Sapphire, FireRed and LeafGreen appearances, these Pokemon suffer from seemingly tiny glitches that can go the length of ruining the Pokemon entirely. Let's take a look!
Pokemon glitches and the like are always interesting to me, but diving into the context created by them and how they affect our playthroughs and stories with the games- that's what I LOVE! And this one has implications for any normal playthrough in gen 3 Pokemon, but also competitive, so it can definitely be far reaching.
Definitely got a little technical on this one, hope you still enjoyed it! I'm still figuring things out and experimenting with the medium.
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@droomish1
@droomish1 11 ай бұрын
should we make the shirt at 5:51 a reality or is it too silly
@funnelkaek
@funnelkaek 11 ай бұрын
YES
@snowballmicrophone
@snowballmicrophone 11 ай бұрын
go for it 👍🏽 should add leaf green side by side with fire red
@Boamere
@Boamere 11 ай бұрын
I think it's a bit niche
@kristopherwillis8075
@kristopherwillis8075 11 ай бұрын
Yes do it that sounds like a great idea
@lavenderlele
@lavenderlele 11 ай бұрын
now that I've seen the video I can confirm this is a BANGER shirt I would buy
@CommanderWiggins
@CommanderWiggins 11 ай бұрын
These glitches have always been so funny to me. Not only are the roamers even harder to get than usual to the point of some of them being downright impossible if you let them Roar, if you do manage to catch them you get a Pokemon with absolutely horrible IV's as your reward. It's the biggest accidental middle finger.
@MrLump
@MrLump 10 ай бұрын
It’s Gen 3, who cares about iv’s?
@benjamincecilio5063
@benjamincecilio5063 10 ай бұрын
At least Hyper Training will fix those terrible IVs if you transfer them to Sun/Moon
@QPoily
@QPoily 10 ай бұрын
@@MrLump Why wouldn't you care about having noticeably lower stats than you could have lol
@goldman77700
@goldman77700 10 ай бұрын
​@MrLump Didn't play crystal so Gen 3 were the first games to give a reason to care about IVs à la battle tower.
@sandspada
@sandspada 10 ай бұрын
​@@QPoilyBecause most kids don't understand how EVs or IVs work, or that they even exist. When I played Gen 3, I was in elementary school. I only cared about how cool they looked and power leveled my starter to level 100 so he could one-shot everyone else. I hated the Battle Frontier because it required me to actually plan and strategise instead of powering through everything with superior firepower.
@lerdyvision
@lerdyvision 10 ай бұрын
You unlocked a long-dormant memory of being roared away by Entei and then wondering what the hell happened. Thanks for giving my young self some closure.
@mrlmaokun
@mrlmaokun 5 ай бұрын
Bro same, oddly nice to have an old problem solved
@bluegum6438
@bluegum6438 5 ай бұрын
yep, also happened to me
@SethJV
@SethJV 11 ай бұрын
Another very common Emerald W.
@droomish1
@droomish1 11 ай бұрын
it's a masterpiece, a gift from the universe, I'll never tire of it
@chimaeraarts
@chimaeraarts 11 ай бұрын
But sadly Emerald has that issue relating to RNG, insted of generating a new values each frame instead it generates as the save file menu is loaded
@psychonerd93
@psychonerd93 11 ай бұрын
@@chimaeraarts Emeralds RNG works perfectly fine. The bug is that it always starts at 0, making it perfectly predictable.
@trashboat4731
@trashboat4731 11 ай бұрын
@@psychonerd93 well said 👍
@thealientree3821
@thealientree3821 11 ай бұрын
Emerald and Platinum.
@Dou_gh_Boi
@Dou_gh_Boi 11 ай бұрын
imagine gen 1 having roaming legendaries with that ABSOLUTELY PERFECT ENGINE
@lpfan4491
@lpfan4491 10 ай бұрын
Imagine having Gen 1 with gen 1's codebase.
@SnakebitSTI
@SnakebitSTI 10 ай бұрын
Well, you can catch Mew in gen 1 even though it's not supposed to be possible to find Mew at all in the game…
@byzantine5761
@byzantine5761 10 ай бұрын
they'd probably mess up and end up making it so every wild, trainer, and static encounter all become one of the legendary beasts at level 3591e+34 with Sky Attack and Growl as their only moves
@ARandomMinecraftVillager
@ARandomMinecraftVillager 10 ай бұрын
There would be a bug where, if you ever pressed a button on an even numbered frame, they would all get switched for Goldeens
@spitefulcrow5529
@spitefulcrow5529 8 ай бұрын
G3: *has a glitch that can permanently remove a legendary from the game through absolutely no fault of the player if the pokemon just happens to use one out of its four moves, and another glitch that makes them always have terrible IVs no matter what* UHHHHH B-B-BUT G1 BAD
@ThePonDePon
@ThePonDePon 11 ай бұрын
I remember the first time i ran into Entei on my firered, my jaw dropped and my confusion rose through the roof, I was so flabbergasted with disbelief, I was lucky enough to know about the pokemon cloning glitch in emerald and cloned a masterball and just used that the next time i ran into it, I was on route 1 just bullying pidgeys and rattattas and randomly ran into it, even my sister was surprised when Entei appeared
@Schnort
@Schnort 11 ай бұрын
I never beat my LeafGreen copy as a kid before it was lost, so I never got to experience this. By the time I got around to emulating, I already knew about the roaming legendaries.
@b0ss_302
@b0ss_302 3 ай бұрын
Entei here I'd like my virginity back
@kyleshoesmith1931
@kyleshoesmith1931 11 ай бұрын
As someone who caught ALL 3 beasts on separate fire red and leaf green saves for a live dex… yeah it sucks
@CyborgForgael
@CyborgForgael 11 ай бұрын
Considering that the Lati twins are such great Pokémon in so many respects, it’s a shame that Ruby/Sapphire did them dirty in terms of IVs.
@danf7411
@danf7411 10 ай бұрын
How so it's always random right
@moth5449
@moth5449 10 ай бұрын
@@danf7411nope. It’s something like 3ivs are random and the rest are always 0
@Wryyyong
@Wryyyong 10 ай бұрын
​@@danf7411 The video literally goes over this: - A Pokemon's Individual Values are stored within their data as a 32-bit integer value, in which only the first 30 bits of the value are used. 5 bits are used to store the Individual Value for each stat, which gives them their limit of 0-31. - The data for the roaming Latias/Latios/Entei/Raikou/Suicune is generated upon having their event flags triggered, to try and ensure you're fighting the exact same one each time you encounter them. The generation and storing of this data within the cartridge's SRAM, by itself, runs without issue. - Due to a programming oversight however, when you actually manage to successfully capture your roaming Pokemon, the game incorrectly copies the Individual Values within this stored data onto your newly-captured Pokemon -- it only copies the first byte (8 bits) of the value, leaving the remaining three bytes (24 bits) of it as zero. - As a result of the above, and due to the exact order the bits are interpreted as, this error effectively locks their Speed, Special Defense, Special Attack and Defense IVs to 0 and caps the Attack IV at 7. Only the HP IV ends up being copied in full. The only way of circumventing this error without patching the game itself is via external modifications to the save data to write new Individual Values to the Pokemon. - This error is only present within _Ruby, Sapphire, FireRed,_ and _LeafGreen._ It was fixed with the release of _Emerald._
@dusklunistheumbreon
@dusklunistheumbreon 10 ай бұрын
@@danf7411 Did you not watch the video?
@kirby1225
@kirby1225 10 ай бұрын
probably not, you'd be surprised how many people comment on videos without watching it.@@dusklunistheumbreon
@shogundy1
@shogundy1 11 ай бұрын
Getting my legendary only to find that 4/6 stat block bits read "0" "Ohhhh brother THIS GUY STINKS!!!"
@Ikcatcher
@Ikcatcher 11 ай бұрын
I remembered encountering Raikou in Leafgreen, getting roared, and never seeing it again. That was definitely the childhood memory of all time
@abbiepancakeeater52
@abbiepancakeeater52 10 ай бұрын
I remember encountering Entei in Heart Gold when I was like level 25 and being freaked out and scared of getting knocked out. It happened a few times, actually.
@user-uc5tj6ux8w
@user-uc5tj6ux8w 10 ай бұрын
Your uncle touched you.
@QPoily
@QPoily 10 ай бұрын
I had a Raikou encounter in LG as well. Lil' ol' me wouldn't stop until I caught it and after months of tracking Raikou I did eventually manage to catch it. Unfortunately it had a nature which reduced its spec attack AND had extremely low SP IVs (which I only found out a decade later). I didn't know anything about natures or IVs but damn was it noticeable that something was off even to young me.
@sanguinepub
@sanguinepub 10 ай бұрын
It's funny because, as I had experience with Gen 2, I already knew how to hunt them. So when they roared, I looked at the Pokedex and found there was zero data. It made me reset and I thought they just downgraded and made roaming legendaries worse. So I never had a hard time hunting them, due to the fact I thought the roar bug was the standard. If they run, I also reset without even checking. So to this day, I thought even if they ran it made them impossible to catch. xD
@Asriel_Cypher
@Asriel_Cypher 8 ай бұрын
I broke my gameboy a day later.
@gekiraijin
@gekiraijin 11 ай бұрын
i always use the master ball on roaming legendaries. it feels like it was made for them
@somechupacabrawithinternet8866
@somechupacabrawithinternet8866 11 ай бұрын
facts
@droomish1
@droomish1 11 ай бұрын
We have a difficult choice to make in sinnoh
@veghesther3204
@veghesther3204 11 ай бұрын
So do I but for Entei Raiku and Suicune Entei is the most useful of those and Suicune is pure CRAP for battles.
@AhmedX8
@AhmedX8 11 ай бұрын
​@@veghesther3204gen 3 suicune has no weakness. use surf ice beam calm mind rest/toxic, it is a TANK
@MoonlightBelladonna
@MoonlightBelladonna 11 ай бұрын
Finding them is such a nightmare.
@FNNinry
@FNNinry 11 ай бұрын
I did remember getting roared away by entei as a kid but I definitely just forgot about him too soon after, never realized until now that hes just gone forever lol
@RetroAndChill
@RetroAndChill 10 ай бұрын
Another point, in Colosseum, catching all the shadow Pokémon is a major completion criteria so even if knock them out and still get another chance
@veghesther3204
@veghesther3204 11 ай бұрын
I tried to use Mean Look even in the Gold/Silver/Crystal games and even if it went First I STILL had ROAR causing the legendary pokemon to still run away SUCCESSFULLY AFTER Mean look is used.
@johnmartinez7440
@johnmartinez7440 11 ай бұрын
Yeah I remembered that as a kid. Spent a while training up a Mean Look Haunter that was quick enough to go first in battle, and then...Roar.
@PerfectAzrael
@PerfectAzrael 11 ай бұрын
I think a character in the anime tried that exact strat but Entei just used Roar and fled.
@Kspice9000
@Kspice9000 11 ай бұрын
​@@johnmartinez7440lol I remember I happened to have a pokemon with mean look and was so passed about roar. Never could figure out the trick.
@CrystalGreymon
@CrystalGreymon 11 ай бұрын
​@@PerfectAzraelYou remember exactly. All it did was redouble their resolve to catch it because they knew what would happen next time.
@MarvinPowell1
@MarvinPowell1 10 ай бұрын
I had a Haunter that had Hypnosis and relied on that with Mean Look.
@milotic3333
@milotic3333 11 ай бұрын
Imagine getting that shiny legendary with bad IVs
@phyllojoe5346
@phyllojoe5346 11 ай бұрын
Imagine getting a shiny beast, having it roar, and realizing you lost it
@every116
@every116 11 ай бұрын
​@@phyllojoe5346at least in that case, as long as you don't save, you can just reset and you know that your beast will always be shiny when you encounter it again.
@Leo-nm1ne
@Leo-nm1ne 11 ай бұрын
​@@every116your last save: right after beating brock 💀💀💀
@kananmatsuura732
@kananmatsuura732 11 ай бұрын
​@@Leo-nm1nethe thing is when you beat the champion it autosaves after the HoF
@CrystalGreymon
@CrystalGreymon 11 ай бұрын
​@@Leo-nm1neLiterally impossible. The game forcefully saves when beating the Pokémon League.
@bodbyss
@bodbyss 11 ай бұрын
I am amazed that a legendary using one of its normal moves causes it to permanently despawn itself. Where was the QA control? lol
@minsengo
@minsengo 11 ай бұрын
While I never enjoyed roaming legendaries much, I can appreciate when the game incentivizes you to strategize more. I remember as a kid after a few failed capture attempts of Suicune in FR, I then prepared by capturing a Wobbufett, which I would've never used otherwise at the time, but realized it's ability could help. But on another playthrough when I tried for my favorite of the trio, Raikou I had no idea of the glitch after I got roared out and saved my game, only to see the "Area Unkonwn". I had no idea what I did wrong, if maybe you only get a certain number of chances, etc. Man I was salty after all that work beating the game for that to happen lol.
@TatsubeiYagyu
@TatsubeiYagyu 11 ай бұрын
It's something I miss from older Pokemon games...there's still stuff like Damp which stops (shiny) Pokemon from self-destructing, but I miss Sweetscent for auto-starting battles...and how it would force start horde battles in X and Y and ORAS.
@ExoticCatLitter
@ExoticCatLitter 8 ай бұрын
I played HGSS on release. As a kid I had both games and play them for probably 300-400 hour each. It took me until today to realize the unown that push the legendary beasts faces off the screen during the intro match the first letter of each of their names. Unown E pushes Entei, Unown R Raikou and S Suicune. Such a subtle detail
@Hanson032
@Hanson032 11 ай бұрын
Wow no wonder. As a kid I wondered why my Latios was so weak despite being a legendary, to the point where I just never used it, which as a kid was a pretty big deal lol.
@eeveefennecfox
@eeveefennecfox 11 ай бұрын
it's no wonder why I hate roaming pokemon and cause you only get one damn master ball it makes them even more annoying as hell
@mcj88
@mcj88 11 ай бұрын
To be honest, from the day the mechanic was introduced, I've always hated roaming legendaries, and jank like this certainly did not help matters. Legendary Pokemon are already annoyingly-difficult enough to catch as it is, why make it even _harder?_
@sebastianaliandkulche
@sebastianaliandkulche 11 ай бұрын
Gen 2 logic: more=better
@christiancinnabars1402
@christiancinnabars1402 11 ай бұрын
I remember when people were crying when Roaming Legendaries were absent in Gen 6, and I never got it. Well, absent as how they were in previous titles. The Legendary Birds were _technically_ roamers in Gen 6.
@shinybreloom4027
@shinybreloom4027 11 ай бұрын
​@@christiancinnabars1402I liked them because they had to make you re-explore old areas, but I actually prefer the in game events with a moving sprite more and Cinematic cutscene
@theamazingspooderman2697
@theamazingspooderman2697 11 ай бұрын
Roaming Legendaries in Crown Tundra are so much better, u should try them
@jenningsslayer314
@jenningsslayer314 11 ай бұрын
Yes. Thank you.
@elementneon
@elementneon 10 ай бұрын
I ALWAYS HATED the roaming pokemon, I have a distant memory of it feeling IMPOSSIBLE to get them, as it would seem like no matter where I looked they would never show up. I now know why. It must have glitched out and I never got the chance to catch it in the early game, until Emerald.
@Leto85
@Leto85 11 ай бұрын
Maybe this is the reason why the legend cats were added to Pokémon Colosseum.
@GustoLeaf
@GustoLeaf 11 ай бұрын
This is awesome, I remember catching Latios FINALLY only for it to be kinda mid as a Pokémon. You should Link this video in the comments of your short on the 3 dogs! Or in general maybe putting out the long form video first then your short(s) on a similar topic, linking back to the long form. It could result in even more traction! Love your stuff man
@johanericsson7309
@johanericsson7309 11 ай бұрын
Using my Latios from Ruby in Battle Frontier was frustrating to say the least. I didn't bother resetting emerald until I got a good one thinking that I could always use Ruby to get a good one. Luckily with the beasts, you can purify them right away with the time flute to check their nature (although not having the master ball to catch them is kinda tough)
@eliseosterbrink8000
@eliseosterbrink8000 11 ай бұрын
I knew about the roar problem already, but wow do you get screwed over bad if you manage to avoid it! I never noticed the IVs being so terrible when I played RSE as a kid. Thankfully, I now have a little something called Action Replay to fix those terrible stats!
@JG54206
@JG54206 6 ай бұрын
Did you just catch a different one with the AR or use a code to max out its stats? I also have AR and would like to fix mine.
@eliseosterbrink8000
@eliseosterbrink8000 6 ай бұрын
@@JG54206 You do both, though I find the codes to max out stats to be... unreliable, at best. A lot of them literally just set everything to 999. Catching another is probably your best bet since you can use codes for IVs of your choice.
@calamorta
@calamorta 10 ай бұрын
Wow, had no idea Raikou and Entei were glitched if you weren't prepared for them. And also never knew they all had nerfed stats. This is sad, but honestly Suicune still felt extremely good regardless, but I wonder how competitive players dealt with this issue back in the day.
@LorsephDDs
@LorsephDDs 10 ай бұрын
By playing Colosseum
@JayceCH.
@JayceCH. 9 ай бұрын
Competitive didnt exist until Gen 4 buddy.
@SnowboardinNinja
@SnowboardinNinja 6 ай бұрын
That's wrong. Ev training and IV RNG manipulation/breeding was used a bunch for official Pokemon tournaments in gen 3.
@123christianac
@123christianac 5 ай бұрын
@@SnowboardinNinja What official Pokemon tournaments were being run during that time? Also, did they even have the tools to RNG manipulate in the early 2000s?
@BeIlG
@BeIlG 11 ай бұрын
I love your short videos but I really love your line form!
@MuchWhittering
@MuchWhittering 11 ай бұрын
Oh, this explains why, when I transferred my old Sapphire Latias to Gen 7, it had awful IVs. I thought me as a child I just had terrible luck!
@xX_dash_Xx
@xX_dash_Xx 10 ай бұрын
just want to say I appreciate the pacing of this video, espeically the intro. really hooked me in without any bs. so many youtubers can't get that right. I didn't have to 2x speed ur video is essentially what im saying XD
@williamfrieden1
@williamfrieden1 11 ай бұрын
Great video, interesting information for sure, glad I didn’t lose Entei or Raikou to roar, anyways, keep it up!
@arceus1
@arceus1 11 ай бұрын
Another banger vid! Love that KZbin always put a new vid of yours at the top of front page 😂 They finally do something right!
@JoseManuel-pn3dh
@JoseManuel-pn3dh 11 ай бұрын
Thanks, when you said that IVs were stored in 30 bits I got that 'ooooh that's why' moment.
@MlopryXD
@MlopryXD 11 ай бұрын
Ok, I'm kinda glad I swapped my fully ev trained latias for a salamence at the last few battles in the battle tower now.
@T34rl3ss
@T34rl3ss 11 ай бұрын
I had leaf green and was supposed to find suicune but it never appeared after hours of grinding back in my childhood till the point i thought they are not even real.
@JustinObi54
@JustinObi54 11 ай бұрын
For me yesterday I flew back to pallet from vermilion and then as I was leaving to go to route 1, my first encounter was suicine. This is after the whole game and I forgot about the annoying roaming legendaries when it just appeared
@JustinObi54
@JustinObi54 11 ай бұрын
And I caught it with the masterball I saved.
@Kali_Krause
@Kali_Krause 11 ай бұрын
The legendary beasts only appear after you beat the elite four in Fire Red and Leaf Green and depend on the starter you chose. Entei and Raikou have a really bad game breaking glitch where if they used Roar, they both disappear on your cartridge permanently
@rocrastinator3837
@rocrastinator3837 11 ай бұрын
@@Kali_Krausehe had suicune so he’s probably just unlucky and never found it
@shadow_realm47
@shadow_realm47 11 ай бұрын
All my friends said legendaries are Cartoon only, so when I caught an entei they accused me of owning a bootleg copy:p
@MorshusNosehairTrimmings
@MorshusNosehairTrimmings 11 ай бұрын
It's always a pleasure watching your videos!
@hellspawn32x66
@hellspawn32x66 10 ай бұрын
Very rare that I subscribe after only seeing one video but here we are. Great shit
@iJerseyDevil
@iJerseyDevil 11 ай бұрын
Learning about this was so vindicating! A year or two ago, I was playing through Pokemon UltraViolet (FireRed, but all 386 Pokemon of the time are obtainable with no tricks or trading), and found myself completely unable to find or even track Raikou in the Pokedex after my first encounter with him. I ended up having to hack the game and manually add Raikou as a spawn on Route 1, without ever knowing what had gone wrong. I don't remember specifically, but he must have used Roar on me and deleted himself. Thanks for the informative video!
@Wightsworn
@Wightsworn 11 ай бұрын
I had a glitch with the roaming Latios in Ruby that, to this day, I still have never seen anyone else encounter. As we all know, on a typical playthrough, you get Latios to begin roaming after defeating the champion and then interacting with the TV in your house. But for some reason, with my save file, this would happen *again* after I caught/defeated Latios. In other words, I could catch infinite Latios on the same save file, just by beating Steven again each time. Sadly, my childhood Ruby cartridge is long lost.
@arenard89aw
@arenard89aw 11 ай бұрын
This may just be a matter of the battery being dry. I bought a used copy of Ruby years ago to migrate pokèmon & this was present on mine as well.
@ShaftCommander
@ShaftCommander 11 ай бұрын
Yeah. That definitely didn’t happen.
@siilverREAL
@siilverREAL 11 ай бұрын
@@ShaftCommander who hurt you my dude
@Wightsworn
@Wightsworn 11 ай бұрын
@@ShaftCommander What would I have to gain from lying about it? I don't care about internet likes, and if I did, I'd be spending my days reposting cat images on Reddit or something.
@ShaftCommander
@ShaftCommander 11 ай бұрын
@@siilverREAL you know the person is a simpleton when they use that played out response. 😂🤡
@MushKinPuff
@MushKinPuff 3 ай бұрын
It’s So Strange To Me That There’s An Unused Generation 3 Soundfont Version Of The Legendary Beast Battle Theme In Ruby & Sapphire, Yet It Wasn’t Used For Them In FireRed & LeafGreen.
@luizmatheussantopaolo5106
@luizmatheussantopaolo5106 8 ай бұрын
Love your choice of music from Pokemon Colosseum, underrated game imo
@adammackintosh430
@adammackintosh430 11 ай бұрын
Hi Mr Droomish, I have a feeling that your channel is about to get a lot bigger very quickly. Your recent shorts were recommended to me, someone who has not watched Pokémon content in a good while. This lead me to your main vids and then subbing. If it happened to me then my guess is it's happening to loads of people. 🎉🎉🎉🎉
@polymorphicblacksteve5038
@polymorphicblacksteve5038 5 ай бұрын
Was anyone else surprised when you put it to sleep and then was still able to run away?
@sundhaug92
@sundhaug92 10 ай бұрын
I suspect this happened by it using an 8-bit copy instruction rather than a 32-bit copy instruction
@jalenjasso306
@jalenjasso306 10 ай бұрын
I really love roaming legendaries, the dopamine hit as a kid was unreal. It would have you geeked out for hours, recalling the encounter in your head over and over. Then finally catching them is like a big sense of accomplishment. Like I can still imagine my hands shaking, dropping my gameboy on my bed. But then they quickly became box Pokémon trophies. 😅 I was kinda disappointed but still happy I got a rare Pokémon but for them to be so weak. Like I always remember them being weak and was shocked that they are valuable competitively. Lol 😂 Thanks for the video, you scratched a long forgotten itch. 👌🏽
@kjhgfdfghjkdrtyuiwewe
@kjhgfdfghjkdrtyuiwewe 10 ай бұрын
Ah, I wish you mentioned the Latias and Latios glitch in Emerald that makes you able to catch trainers pokemon if you knock out Lati@s. This has been done to shiny hunt in the battle tower.
@jasontheslate
@jasontheslate 10 ай бұрын
Damn amazing video, I didn't know everything about ivs and evs back when I played these games. But I remember after diamond and pearl when I learned everything and transfered those, having all these 0ivs and I tried to soft reset them but still 0. And now I know why!
@Sanqui
@Sanqui 10 ай бұрын
Honestly, I expected a description of the algorithm which determines where the legendary beast moves next on the overworld map! Will that be in the sequel to this video? :)
@psychonerd93
@psychonerd93 11 ай бұрын
Good thing I got my latios at southern island and my legendary beasts in Orre.
@droomish1
@droomish1 11 ай бұрын
VIP coming through
@psychonerd93
@psychonerd93 11 ай бұрын
@@droomish1 Southern island latios carried me through much of the battle frontier. Calm Mind + Recover on a pokemon bulkier than alakazam is very powerful.
@dntremad8290
@dntremad8290 11 ай бұрын
Latios is so busted at the BF 😂😂
@luigiymario2xd
@luigiymario2xd 10 ай бұрын
Is there any fan patch for this issue out there in the wild? That would be great if there was a fan patch for that and you could apply it to your pokemon save with the gba to usb thing on pc!
@IzumiChenmeiru
@IzumiChenmeiru 11 ай бұрын
if the roamers' ivs are zeroed out in the copying process, doesn't catching them during the first time you encounter them avoid this issue?
@nickporter9264
@nickporter9264 10 ай бұрын
I remember I was at my sisters soccer game as a kid when I first encountered Raikou in FireRed. I kept tracking it, trying to ultimately catch it; until it used Roar. I checked the PokeDex and saw Area Unknown. I panicked and luckily turned off my game without saving. However, it wouldn’t be until my senior year of college twelve years later when I would ultimately find Raikou again and catch it. Shame it had bad stats.
@Zairin.
@Zairin. 10 ай бұрын
Does the berrypatch implemented by certain methods work to also remedy this?
@funnelkaek
@funnelkaek 11 ай бұрын
i was minding my business in some tall grass and then an entei bit me! i used my bug spray but now ive decimated the population entirely! how do i fix?
@grlluigi
@grlluigi 11 ай бұрын
Use at least 5% Deet bug deterrent
@bobaorc7839
@bobaorc7839 4 ай бұрын
Man I haven't thought about Gen 3 since I was 9 years old. Thanks for the Nostalgia blast
@spaghettiking7312
@spaghettiking7312 6 ай бұрын
I've gotten Suicune before. I remember getting it pretty quickly, but this roar glitch certainly explains the difficulty I've had finding the others.
@erikhasenauer3584
@erikhasenauer3584 4 ай бұрын
I remember getting a Raikou in either silver or crystal and it glitch when i deployed it in battle to show a bulbasaur sprite. It also showed the pokedex entry for bulbasaur as well.
@MattTheHuman9
@MattTheHuman9 10 ай бұрын
2:27 this patch of grass is memorable to me too, cause this is where I was tryna catch an Abra
@nicklagoni7306
@nicklagoni7306 11 ай бұрын
A similar thing happened in gen 2 but never made it to cartridge. There was a cancelled event for the mythical Pokémon Sploink in which they used a unique calculation for your shiny odds based off of your trainer ID instead of the random chance. This made it functionally impossible to earn a shiny sploink from the event unless your trainer name was exactly "funnelkaek" however because this exceeded the maximum number of characters for your name, shiny Sploink would have been unobtainable.
@droomish1
@droomish1 11 ай бұрын
WOW, this definitely warrants more research and a deep dive from me
@funnelkaek
@funnelkaek 11 ай бұрын
you're so real for this
@grlluigi
@grlluigi 11 ай бұрын
Uncancel shiney sploink!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@WindsorMason
@WindsorMason 11 ай бұрын
​@@SleepyJuno he's sploinking
@lpfan4491
@lpfan4491 10 ай бұрын
@@SleepyJuno Can you blame droomish? With all the whacky jank in these games, this is 100% believable.
@F_C...
@F_C... 11 ай бұрын
Fascinating that suicine is unimpacted from a gen 3 glitch because of the existence of crystal version.
@rhettorical
@rhettorical 10 ай бұрын
I cannot believe all those hours spent trying to track down Entei were utterly wasted. AUUUGH
@AtomBacon
@AtomBacon 5 ай бұрын
I was familiar with the roar despawn glitch, but I didn't know about the garbage IV error.
@nctzen3to3
@nctzen3to3 3 ай бұрын
For whatever reason, I couldn’t catch Latios in my Ruby file. Every time I would run into it, it’s HP was all the way down and my game would freeze when I’d throw a pokeball :(
@dogf421
@dogf421 5 ай бұрын
im usually of the mind that IVs are not that important but when they are that bad it probably is pretty noticable
@VanHalenSoloman
@VanHalenSoloman 10 ай бұрын
what is that banger miusic in the outro of your video?
@suitwo
@suitwo 11 ай бұрын
I made the mistake of saving after the Entei used roar in my first run before realising it had already gone poof. I wasn't even able to use a master ball on it because one of my siblings had used it earlier on a random wild pokemon.
@finesseandstyle
@finesseandstyle 3 ай бұрын
I remember my sister trying to catch the 3 dogs and specifically prepared a Gengar with Mean Look and then it used Roar anyway.
@BigHailFan
@BigHailFan 4 ай бұрын
Of all the mechanics Game Freak never brought back, I think roaming legendaries was the only one the entire fanbase agreed on was a good thing.
@andrewpalmer1873
@andrewpalmer1873 11 ай бұрын
Omg I never knew this about the glitch in fireRed! Makes soooo much sense now.
@officialhamsue
@officialhamsue 10 ай бұрын
as someone who is replaying these gen 3 games rn i forgot about this!!!
@grick7379
@grick7379 11 ай бұрын
When I was a kid, Roar was my least favorite move because of this crap. Though, I had no idea about the IV thing, and I like to think I know a lot about Gen 3. Cool video!
@lavenderlele
@lavenderlele 11 ай бұрын
RAHHHH!! Oversights In The Game's Code, my arch-nemesis! we meet again!
@spencerderosier6649
@spencerderosier6649 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for finally aiding me to comprehend what IV means so clearly
@ASleepingSwampert
@ASleepingSwampert 10 ай бұрын
Id just go in and out of a route gateway until the pokemon moved back where I was already. Took a while to get it lined up but it got me lots of encounters.
@rick-sanchez
@rick-sanchez 5 ай бұрын
Since the error occurs during copying couldn't you avoid it by throwing the master ball on the very first encounter? Or is it generated and copied before that?
@naomiseadragon2676
@naomiseadragon2676 11 ай бұрын
This would explain why, when I wanted another latias and got my roaming legendary one in sapphire, the stats read as no good for both defenses, speed and special attack and decent for HP and attack. At least it was timid on the first try lol!
@Martician
@Martician 10 ай бұрын
I would always wiggle between 2 different routes on a bike (or surf) till the roaming legendary i was after was in the same zone as me. Made catching them a lot easier.
@kevinballantyne2026
@kevinballantyne2026 4 ай бұрын
I remember doing the repel and level cap mon and flying to one spot
@joelockard7174
@joelockard7174 10 ай бұрын
On the note of catching legendaries theres one spot where two routes are together and you simply have to move one space to the side to change routes. I used that to my advantage since they change places whenever you change routes. Made catching them super fast. Probably had them all within an hour or maybe two.
@JayceCH.
@JayceCH. 9 ай бұрын
God forbid strategizing 😮. I swear, every other comment is stupid.
@joelockard7174
@joelockard7174 9 ай бұрын
@@JayceCH. Work smart not hard....I noticed that way back in the 90s. On the map there were two routes next to each other with no town or otherwise breaking them up. Found the border between both. Checked map saw the icone...moved once I saw them change. I knew then and there this is where I'll hunt them. Took way less time to get these than the originals in Red/Blue...
@michaelrivera4299
@michaelrivera4299 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the heads up
@Artenuga
@Artenuga 10 ай бұрын
Never knew the IVs were justed like that. My original Ruby Latios has been my prized possession for battle towers for several gens
@connorgross3410
@connorgross3410 11 ай бұрын
5:51 I unironically want that shirt
@chrisb8698
@chrisb8698 4 ай бұрын
I feel bad for anyone that didn't know about the dup glitch back then. Was a complete stress saver after trying to catch the first couple the "right" way.
@SynnekoNya
@SynnekoNya 2 ай бұрын
So... one thing is for sure I remember that glitch with the area unknown and how it had me freaking annoyed as a kid, but me I heard since when it said that it can spawn anywhere so I used to go off from place to place encountering pokemon after pokemon, and I swear to you, I did find that suicune while it said Area Unknown... could be mandela effect maybe but I dunno, although it is odd how i went through so many encounters but no shiny throughout all my fire red adventure...
@xtendoclip1517
@xtendoclip1517 6 ай бұрын
Thats an awesome shirt idea 😂
@JoshuaPAMployee
@JoshuaPAMployee 11 ай бұрын
Wait does the PokePark transfer to G4 fix the stats because my Latios has max Sp.Atk, both defenses, and speed ivs and he's from my Ruby.
@N12015
@N12015 8 ай бұрын
0:34 And that's why people actually despise roaming legendaries. They're hard not only to track, but to do anything meaningful to them. Glad they stopped that trend in gen 5.
@VEN0M415
@VEN0M415 10 ай бұрын
I came back to my firered after learning it had more than the base game (which for the longest time I thought itd be a 1:1 of red), and ohh boy chasing suicune was a pain and a half, mainly because i used my masterball while trying to find a strong mewtwo back then and running out of balls to use, but also the pathing it took hopping around was just tedious.. Eventually got Suicune but I have yet to see the IVs on it or my mewtwo. Now if only I could find a way to get the mew event.
@20quid
@20quid 3 ай бұрын
It's crazy that they went to such lengths to patch the berry glitch but not to patch this.
@velvetbutterfly
@velvetbutterfly 11 ай бұрын
Maybe this isn't the place to ask but is there a Gameshark code to trigger the other roamers to spawn in? I want to catch the other roamers but I don't want to play through the entire game again and again
@williamdrum9899
@williamdrum9899 28 күн бұрын
Better yet, use a code to make them appear as normal encounters so their stats don't suck
@Ruckus790
@Ruckus790 3 ай бұрын
Hey I ran into the roaming legendary for the first time in that same patch of grass lol. I remember it vividly because it completely freaked me out.
@kingrobotnik6950
@kingrobotnik6950 11 ай бұрын
I am not proud of how long it took me to find Latios in Ruby 😞
@XperimentorEES
@XperimentorEES 7 ай бұрын
Recurring gamebreaking bugs and oversights like this are probably why so many cheat devices were made back in the day.
@ChaserDubs
@ChaserDubs 5 ай бұрын
What was the music at the end ? I know it’s from Mario Kart …
@FibonacciDDR42175
@FibonacciDDR42175 2 ай бұрын
I was traded a Shiny Suicune from a friend over a decade ago that I still have today. I never knew until now how it could be so unlucky to have 5 stats at 0 (all but HP), but it now makes perfect sense. I never played FRLG myself so I never knew about this...
@FlatEarthTruth611
@FlatEarthTruth611 11 ай бұрын
You really need a Pokemon like Haunter or Gengar to learn both 'mean look' and 'hypnosis' to even have somewhat a decent chance of catching it without a master ball. Maybe also have a Pokemon with 'false swipe' as well on standby.
@caloberodriguez1494
@caloberodriguez1494 11 ай бұрын
I have a feeling (as a Pokémon master) this channel is gonna be one of my favs :)
@RockyC89
@RockyC89 10 ай бұрын
Had no idea that the legendary dogs were even in fire red
@davidh7832
@davidh7832 11 ай бұрын
I first caught raiku or suicune on route 2 for my first legendary dog.
@TheBGjosh
@TheBGjosh 3 ай бұрын
As a kid I had the strategy guide for Fire red/leaf green so I saved the master ball for the entei near the end luckily
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