Drop Shot Nymphing with Kelly Galloup

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TheSlideinn

TheSlideinn

Күн бұрын

This is a follow up to one of our more popular KZbin videos, "Basic Nymphing and Drop Shot Systems," that we did a few years ago. Because of the myriad of questions that we've received since it was published, Kelly wanted to do another video that focused purely on the drop shot system of nymph fishing. In this video, Kelly describes how to rig your flies using a drop shot system and why he feels it is a superior technique to standard two fly rigs.

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@johnnymccullough1137
@johnnymccullough1137 5 жыл бұрын
Great system, Never hardly snag up, rarely tangled up casting on big water in the wind, and best of all landed two big rainbow trout on the heavily fished south fork of the boise River last week!I practiced the system in town last winter to get familiar. There is tons of logic to this system, love using, and tying non weighted flies, the drop shot is awesome almost snagless and put the flies in the zone. Thanks for the great informative videos!
@roblacitinola866
@roblacitinola866 3 жыл бұрын
Geez, learned more in the last 7 min, than the last 7 years...Awesome Kelly, great skit-
@Krazyjuggler
@Krazyjuggler 5 жыл бұрын
This rig is incredible! Completely changed the world of nymphing for me, couldn’t catch anything on a nymph until I used this rig, awesome videos! Keep em comin!
@shepherd8203
@shepherd8203 3 жыл бұрын
How heavy is the weights?
@DaveyMedley
@DaveyMedley 4 ай бұрын
Kelly, you truly are a master of the sport!! I've learned so much from you about fly fishing and Brian from mad river here in Ohio. You two have definitely made me a better fisherman. I love your nymphing techniques much better than ureo, thank you
@josephgrandpre1761
@josephgrandpre1761 4 жыл бұрын
Hi from France, and thanks for this idea of drop shot nymphing. It's not allowed everywhere, but when it is, it's an awesome complement to what you guys call french nymphing. All the best!
@markbrown8039
@markbrown8039 8 жыл бұрын
I am always pleased with the quality of questions you get on your channel and the answers always seem to be even better than the questions.....it is a fantastic resource for someone like me and very much appreciated!
@jasrobsny
@jasrobsny 7 жыл бұрын
This is amazing! All the guides in any shop I've ever been say that unless you're losing flies all the time you're not fishing well, but that makes no sense; I waste more fishing time on snags, breaking off, and tying on new flies than probably anything else.
@BeautifuLakesStreamsBiologists
@BeautifuLakesStreamsBiologists 3 жыл бұрын
It seems to me this rig may be much easier to sense the strike than the traditional arrangement since the indicator is mostly under tension from the drop shot. Making the take easier to detect will be a massive help to beginner anglers and also to the elderly who are not as sensitive to the strike. Great stuff!
@anthonygregorio2208
@anthonygregorio2208 6 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this video! A fishing buddy of mine started using this rig setup and he loves it. He also said that because of the weight being at the far end it is easier to cast. You don't get that helicopter spin like you do when the split shot is in the middle and sometimes when using a strike indicator as well.
@mikehedden5997
@mikehedden5997 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Kelly. Very informative with great style. Keep em coming
@rageordie
@rageordie 5 жыл бұрын
tried this method yesterday and it was AWESOME! Lost 1 piece of lead and no flies. numerous hits and fish in the net thanks to you!
@unclefuddelmer9224
@unclefuddelmer9224 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation on your reasoning behind rigging drops for nymphing, with sizes & positioning of flies. It all makes sense to this old PA fly fisherman. New sub here for y’all👍🇺🇸
@BigwoodzOG
@BigwoodzOG 5 жыл бұрын
I stumbled upon your videos while watching tying tutorials and have been hooked since. Great content and demonstrations! THANK YOU
@bznbrian
@bznbrian 5 жыл бұрын
I've been using this system for a few months and I catch way more fish and lose way less flies! You are a GOD Kelly Galloup! Thank you
@MoyMacGill
@MoyMacGill 6 жыл бұрын
I'm just starting fly fishing this year and this just made sense. Thanks for all the explanation
@TheSlideinn
@TheSlideinn 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Moy, glad it helped out. Kelly
@thomasnorthrup9990
@thomasnorthrup9990 3 жыл бұрын
This has increased my catch rate enormously. If you like me, I'm 60, have difficulty seeing the fine tippet material to tie these, I tie my drop shots on ahead of time to the fly, and then put each into a small ziplock bag, works great, you then just tie on the fly and are good to go!
@gravityalwayswins1434
@gravityalwayswins1434 8 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks Kelly
@sunspiral79
@sunspiral79 5 жыл бұрын
This is awesome..It never even occurred to me to tie flies above the weight..Duh...Techniques and strategies is part of the love for fly fishing...Thanks
@Adroit1911
@Adroit1911 3 жыл бұрын
I love to see that kelly actually calls it a drop shot!! I'm tired of hearing people call it a bounce rig.
@jimmiecampbell4357
@jimmiecampbell4357 8 жыл бұрын
Kelley, great vid! I'm an Etexas crappie fisherman. Good basics cross over to other types of fishing, and really like your idea for the Perfection Knot. You built a better mouse trap. Sometimes the most basic idea is the best solution. Thanks.
@redsflyshop
@redsflyshop 5 жыл бұрын
Great video Kelly well explained.
@dw8773
@dw8773 5 жыл бұрын
Just found this site, what a great resource! You've got kind of a real life Tim Allen thing going here, combined with a lifetime of knowledge and experience that you're willing to share. The last two nights watching your videos I've realized just how lazy I've been for the last 10 or 15 years...it's basically been "hopper season" for me from May through October here in s. Utah, with a little primitive (I've learned here) nymphing for whiteys late in the Fall until the guides start to freeze up. How I hate that gravelly sound... Anyway, I've subbed, thanks.
@donewing2536
@donewing2536 5 ай бұрын
Very informative video. It almost makes me question why I no longer fly fish (big rivers.)
@dparacca
@dparacca 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome video Kelly. Great info
@rumenstanev7747
@rumenstanev7747 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot,Kelly!I didn't lose a single fly with this system.And it is so efficient.
@justinmcgee7063
@justinmcgee7063 Жыл бұрын
This information is priceless.
@jollincones
@jollincones 7 ай бұрын
Connecting the dropper with a loop is an interesting idea. The ability to adjust the depth of the dropper is game changing. Definitely going to try it! I'm curious about the potential for the loop to slide up and down the tippet while casting, or while fighting a fish. Also, I wonder if the loop cinching down on the tippet is more prone to breakage than tying a dropper off of a tag end.
@jasrobsny
@jasrobsny 6 жыл бұрын
I haven't lost a fly yet after two months with drop shot, and my flies spend more time in the water instead of snagging up. Completely sold!
@robertolmstead7685
@robertolmstead7685 4 жыл бұрын
I just want to confirm how well this system works. I've learned to euronymph but often used weight above the bottom fly. Now I use this system, weight on the bottom, with two perfection
@robertolmstead7685
@robertolmstead7685 4 жыл бұрын
loop droppers and BAM! this is deadly. I fish in New England, on some tailwater, and some natural freestones. No matter where, this technique maximizes my fish landed and minimizes equipment lost. I typically tightline and use 5x throughout the rig right up to my bicolor sighter. THANK YOU KELLY!
@tannerfurbee5227
@tannerfurbee5227 4 жыл бұрын
Robert Olmstead similar for me on the euro rig. I’m debating about completely changing style however I’m concerned about losing the ability to fish super fast water. Have u noticed Any downfalls to dropshotting vs euro? Also do use indicator or sighter?
@wesleywillard
@wesleywillard 4 жыл бұрын
Robert Olmstead are you loop tags 5x also? What rod length/wt/line type do you prefer? This is going to change things for me on nymphing.
@robertolmstead7685
@robertolmstead7685 Жыл бұрын
@@wesleywillard Yes. I use 4# fluoro (PLine Halo) for both the perfection loop dropper tags and the drop shot main leader. I've a 10ft rod with 25 ft of 15# yellow amnesia above a bicolor sighter. It's very simple.
@robertolmstead7685
@robertolmstead7685 Жыл бұрын
@@tannerfurbee5227 I use a sighter. The drop shot is good for superfast water as well as moderate. No downfalls. Positives are less lost flies and simple changes of droppers and the levels of the droppers on the main leader. I use fluoro throughout (4# PLine Halo) even down to #20 flies.
@arthururban8340
@arthururban8340 Жыл бұрын
I can’t believe I didn’t figure out using perfection loops to add dropper tags. this is going to save me oodles of time on the stream. I just tried it at home and wow man.
@terryyarnall9495
@terryyarnall9495 8 ай бұрын
Thank you, Kelly! Super clear…..
@anthonygregorio2208
@anthonygregorio2208 6 жыл бұрын
Also forgot to add that when my buddy uses this rig he ties a little knot below the split shot to keep it from sliding off. Then he ties an overhand knot above it so in case he does get snagged on the split shot he only loses that instead of the whole rig.
@davidharwell2971
@davidharwell2971 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kelly, I took your drop shot advice and it works, surprise , surprise your videos have saved me hours of trial and error. Keep it up.
@TheSlideinn
@TheSlideinn 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks David, glad it helped
@CptJera
@CptJera 2 ай бұрын
Hi, Kelly. I know this is was posted a long time ago but hope you still see this. Two questions: 1. I've just learned to use this rig during a recent visit to Montana fishing the Beaverhead and Big Hole. We were using 5X mono tippet on both the leader and dropper loops. Do you have any opinion on fluoro vs. mono for this? 2. Twisting - what is your opinion on incorporating a micro-swivel to attach the rig to a short leader to eliminate this? Thanks, Brother!
@entzijams
@entzijams 3 жыл бұрын
Great information in this video.
@markhaven5638
@markhaven5638 10 күн бұрын
Looks like a great system. Anyone else have a hard time understanding how the perfection loop section was attached to the leader? That bit wasn't clear to me.
@henningradasewski6172
@henningradasewski6172 5 жыл бұрын
Very intriguing. Will give it a "shot" soon.
@bznbrian
@bznbrian 5 жыл бұрын
Haha
@iam73en
@iam73en 2 жыл бұрын
You’re a legend, thank you!
@peterwilliams9348
@peterwilliams9348 7 жыл бұрын
Great video with interesting ideas. Ive never thought of putting my wet fly dropper on a loop. However, Ive long used a dry fly on a dropper as an indicator but never seen this idea presented elsewhere. Most put it "in line" or on the tag of a join with all the disadvantages you demonstrate.
@DavidJohnson-wx6kt
@DavidJohnson-wx6kt Жыл бұрын
Kelly is AWESOME I love drop shotting w small streamers
@wayneviva4524
@wayneviva4524 2 ай бұрын
Hey Kelly .love your stuff. I use a surgerons loop dropper for my drop shot lead . Just put it over the main and let it slide down and stop on the bottom fly...Thoughts??
@bowhuntznj
@bowhuntznj 8 жыл бұрын
Kelly another great video I'm glad I watched the whole thing because I was going to ask if you could just use one or two tippet rings instead of the blood knot or perfection loop. All of this makes perfect sense and having the the fish mount and rocks helps visualize what's going on with this rig. Now I realize why you don't weight your flies and in this type of setup it would definitely be counterproductive plus I agree that unweighted flies act more natural in the current than weighted flies. One question I do have is what size indicator do you use and is it based on the weight of the rig or the type and speed of the current or both? Some of these indicators are bigger than the ones we used to use for fishing for bass with minnows! I always fished tight line high sticking and this just looked weird to me but so many people have switched and are having success that I guess it does work but the older you get the more reluctant sometimes! Thanks again I will definitely give a try.
@jdouglasj2000
@jdouglasj2000 2 жыл бұрын
13:30 he says "just slide it up and put a knot below it." What does he mean by "put a knot below it"? I understand that the purpose is to keep the loop from moving, but how do you put a knot below your loop? And what kind of knot? The blood knot ties together two different pieces of line, and so that can't be what he means. But neither can he mean that we should just the tippet in a knot below the loop because that would break the line. I don't understand. Update: A few months ago you answered my question writing: ESS, I use a blood knot but in reality because the fish is not pulling on that knot you can use a double overhand/granny knot as it is simply a stopper. Thanks, Kelly Two followup questions: 1. A blood knot ties together two separate pieces of line. I don't understand how you put a blood knot into one piece of line. 2. I'm sure I'll use the granny knot, and I understand that if the fish eats the top fly on the loop, it will not put pressure on that granny knot. But if the fish eats the bottom fly that would potentially break the line at that granny knot because the fish would be putting pressure on that granny knot. Clearly I'm missing something, but I don't know what!
@smitty96161
@smitty96161 8 жыл бұрын
Another video with great info, thank you. Might want to mention that the "inline" set up that you show is not legal in some states. Of course the individual fisherman is responsible for knowing and adhering to the regs of their local waters. Thanks again
@blanquitopapito7778
@blanquitopapito7778 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kelly!!
@paulmeyers6569
@paulmeyers6569 5 ай бұрын
That was great. Johnny don’t let him talk to you like that stand up for yourself. You’re a better fishing person than him anyway. Stay safe have fun.
@moshesmoving
@moshesmoving Жыл бұрын
Woulda been great rig on the Little Manistee, but like you mention in the other video, some places don’t allow weight below the fly.
@mrlifetime64
@mrlifetime64 6 жыл бұрын
i like your theory-you make good sense to me-thank you-great presentation
@HalfInsaneOutdoorGuy
@HalfInsaneOutdoorGuy Жыл бұрын
why are people calling this the "Provo River Bounce Rig"?
@BrianOHanlon
@BrianOHanlon 8 жыл бұрын
On my side of Atlantic, we became overly conscious about adding weight to our flies a decade ago. Top anglers, in competitions were using Czech methods and weight, going back longer. It went into mainstream here, about a decade ago. The pendulum swung too far, it generally does. On certain rivers now, Czech methods make no sense at all. On other rivers, it does. There are hungry rivers with the hard bottoms, and torrent waters suitable for Czech, Polish French, Spanish etc. With hydro-electric power generation in Europe, it altered how a lot of rivers behave. The fish behaviors became built around run-off periods from hydro dams. Trout did start to care less about dry fly. Rivers became too enriched too, and that added to it. We ended up with smaller populations of larger sized trout, on many rivers. The hydro-electric schemes altered the feeding behaviors of trout.
@anthonyrudick3293
@anthonyrudick3293 6 жыл бұрын
Great video thanks Kelley
@Beardedfurflinger
@Beardedfurflinger 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video,have 1 question,bought a furled leader 7' 6" dry fly with a attached tippet ring can it be used for drop shot nymphing & can a tippet ring be used instead of blood knot ?
@bmxjake73
@bmxjake73 Жыл бұрын
To me it seems that the dropper line, next to being just 4", also is quite stiff, looking at the size of the fly. What leader material and diameter do you use for that? Normally when I tight line I use a thin fluoro to go through the water column faster, but the dropper is very limp and still gets tangled sometimes.
@ipod1978
@ipod1978 5 жыл бұрын
Great video Kelly. So your dropper loops are just a 4”-6” piece of tippet with a perfection loop in at one end that you wrap around your main tippet bringing the tag in through the perfection loop and snugging down? Then tying a knot (is it a standard overhand knot?) below this dropper loop to stop it sliding down into your point fly? To be honest I was using the top tag, pointing back towards my rod and tying in a half hitch above the surgeons knot but as you say with snags or tangles or just standard fly change outs this soon gets chopped down to the point where the entire tippet needs to be changed out. Looking forward to seeing more of your videos soon pal
@freddymartin7664
@freddymartin7664 6 жыл бұрын
Cool!😉 Very Nice & Informative video...Those Nimphyng Tecniques Looks promising Thanks for Share...!
@GoneFishingCO
@GoneFishingCO 6 жыл бұрын
It is one of my dreams to meet you one day! LEGEND!!!! Cheers and tight lines, Raph
@blade8sec
@blade8sec 6 жыл бұрын
But who's Johnny
@hiloyo63
@hiloyo63 4 жыл бұрын
Your videos are the Best ! I wish you would do more fishing vids because my eyes are way too gone to tie flies.Anyways my question is this . I learned your drop shot method couple years ago and it has Absolutely revolutionized fishing for me.Now trying to get into euro setups.Can you use a euro shorty with sighter and all But run below the tippet ring your drop shot method? Weight on the bottom because as I learned from you non weighted flies are Better.? Thanks for any help.
@stephenchilcott1595
@stephenchilcott1595 5 жыл бұрын
"I have a cold that would kill Johnny"...13:00 hahaaha
@jasrobsny
@jasrobsny 7 жыл бұрын
So you is the inline done with two clinch knots in the eye or is the fly slid on and stopped with something like a figure 8 knot?
@BrianOHanlon
@BrianOHanlon 8 жыл бұрын
On certain rivers, I wouldn't waste my time trying to weight flies. But I did notice, that even heavily weighted flies, don't always hit bottom. Everybody talks about weighted flies hitting the bottom. That's not generally what happens. What does happen, is that weight on the hook, changes the motion of the fly a lot. Instead of having something that has life and movement, the edge gets knocked off of that. A bit like listening to great music on a bad set of headphones. One wonders, what happened to the music?
@probags
@probags 4 жыл бұрын
Great video.
@BrianOHanlon
@BrianOHanlon 8 жыл бұрын
I think of it like those fighter pilots, like in the movie 'Top Gun'. They 'lock on' to a target, and the migratory species can get annoyed if the fly does a Maverick 'fly boy' trick at the wrong time and they miss. Large migratory species, have to conserve their energy. They're like heavy weight boxers. They can't risk swimming to a bait, unless they have it locked on. We tried almost everything here, for the migratory species - double hooks, dressed treble hooks, copper and aluminium tubes. It was all the fashion for a decade or two. In Scandanavia now though, they're taking the weight off the fly again, and using fly lines to fish at the different depths, and different speeds. I think, that that is largely the right way to approach it, if one can.
@jaysongouws7862
@jaysongouws7862 4 жыл бұрын
So informative!
@davidsullivan1019
@davidsullivan1019 6 жыл бұрын
I feel this is a superior system in deeper water maybe knee or greater depth but not really needed in shallower water.
@MrHubris1
@MrHubris1 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Great info. I'm going to go home and tie my leader this way. I learned a lot!
@lastcoyote2355
@lastcoyote2355 3 жыл бұрын
How far above the lead split shot is the nymph tied ? 6” , 8” , 12” ?
@alexargyros7186
@alexargyros7186 6 жыл бұрын
A belated thank you for a great video. Now, a request: could you go over the advantages/disadvantages of using a bobber vs. tight lining with a drop shot system? Again, thank you for an idea that has changed the way I nymph.
@TheSlideinn
@TheSlideinn 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Alex, I will see if I can work it into the filming schedule. thanks for watching
@alexargyros7186
@alexargyros7186 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheSlideinn Even if you don't have time to film, it would be great if you could go over your ideas about using/not using a bobber with a drop shot rig here. It is a question that lots of us must have.
@jayspencer270
@jayspencer270 4 жыл бұрын
This is revolutionary! Excellent! But I’m particularly interested in your sliding dropper loop. But I could not see clearly how you attach it to your mainline. Can you direct me to the details of that connection?
@jp410
@jp410 4 жыл бұрын
I'd also like to know this. The connection for the upper (lighter) fly is explained, but I don't think the lower one is. Great videos all.
@LumocolorARTnr1319
@LumocolorARTnr1319 3 жыл бұрын
Clever setup!
@lotty509
@lotty509 7 жыл бұрын
Kelly, have you ever had an issue with your perfection loop loosing, either with or without a fish on, and getting around your blood knot?
@markmoreland8681
@markmoreland8681 Жыл бұрын
How do you tie a in line fly?
@CookedToPerfection
@CookedToPerfection 8 жыл бұрын
Is the inline rig for the #12 or bigger just the tag of the clinch knot holding the split shot?
@Nkuchmak
@Nkuchmak 6 жыл бұрын
HI Kelly, Thanks for the great videos. The detail is amazing! Quick question though; if you had to fish with a single fly due to local regulations would you place your single fly in the location of the top fly in the video or the bottom fly?
@MrSurfangler
@MrSurfangler 2 жыл бұрын
Bottom fly for sure, Attach a 4 inch dropper 9inches from the bottom splitshots . This will keep the fly 6-12 inches from the bottom which is the strike one for trout
@Sgtpokeman23
@Sgtpokeman23 6 жыл бұрын
Using mono on main line and fluro on the tags? Mono on everything? Fluro on everything? Or does it matter in how the rig fished?
@TheSlideinn
@TheSlideinn 6 жыл бұрын
J I run all fluro, but don't think it makes much difference. thanks for watching, KG
@TheSlideinn
@TheSlideinn 6 жыл бұрын
J, Doesn't really matter. I run straight Fluro, but I did it with mono for the first twenty years with no problems. Thanks for watching. KG
@Dizzywind
@Dizzywind 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!!!!
@flycast4224
@flycast4224 2 жыл бұрын
How high above the top fly should your indicator be?
@warrenhagenbuck8340
@warrenhagenbuck8340 2 жыл бұрын
Kelly what fly tying manual do you recommend?
@craigphillips7258
@craigphillips7258 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@ipod1978
@ipod1978 6 жыл бұрын
Almost always ran into difficulties at some point when using my tag as my dropper line, whether it be wind direction change mid cast, bad bast or the fishing Gods toying with me even after adding a half hitch to get that 90’ stand off angle it just ended in a tangled mess at some point. Just the way I was shown I guess but that perfection look doubled over the tippet and above the surgeons knot is a cracking idea, my dropper line was always too long from what your advising too. Thanks for the tip and for the in-line advice for the larger flies
@boydgravesvlogs2562
@boydgravesvlogs2562 4 жыл бұрын
How do you match the beads to the hooks to hooks sizes
@brackenbudge3918
@brackenbudge3918 3 жыл бұрын
Naive question. ....do you put a knot below the splitshot or do you just pinch it on?
@TheSlideinn
@TheSlideinn 3 жыл бұрын
you can, but it doesn't slip off very often without
@BrianOHanlon
@BrianOHanlon 8 жыл бұрын
What weight does, is it slows down speed at which a fly moves. There are some situations, in which a fisherman can use that. Fish sometimes, love a slow moving bait, as opposed to a fast moving one. I learned that, doing a lot of 'static' fishing. I would categorize this thing of adding weight to the hook, as something to do with the retrieve. Kelly has got a video about retrieve types - vertical up down, or side to side etc. Using lines and rigs, one can achieve specific depths and speeds. If one wants to deaden the movement of the fly further, knock even more edge off of it's jigginess, when adding weight to the hook, is a way to achieve that. But that has to be the objective. One shouldn't add weight, just to get a fly 'down'. That is the mis-comprehension about flies and addition of weight.
@BrianOHanlon
@BrianOHanlon 8 жыл бұрын
+Brian O' Hanlon To reinforce point here, about thickness of wire, used to forge a hook. Look at the classic 'static' type of fly fishing of all, which is the attempt to imitate buzzers that hatch out in lakes. Here, one always notices in the patterns, that a thick gauge of wire is used on the hooks, and the dressing on that thick gauge of wire, is sparse. That is how one achieves a more static behavior of the fly, in the water. Really, what they're doing with buzzer fishing, is adding weight to the hook, in a subtle but significant way. One will always find this, where static fishing is concerned. Where lack of movement is the trigger for the fish to take, instead of movement being the trigger. Certain fish, in circumstances, won't touch a fly if it moves too much.
@BrianOHanlon
@BrianOHanlon 8 жыл бұрын
One thing I'd specify about midge pupae emerger buzzer static fishing, in lakes is that it is a surface technique. The ethafoam ball or whatever, is suspending the fly in the surface film, where the patrolling fish might find it. The extra heavy weight of the thick forged hook, adds a little extra ballast, just enough to counteract the jigginess of the pattern, when using materials like ethafoam etc which float and bounce around too much. It's the same with Czech style patterns. There, there is a lot of floatation material, wrapped around the hook, to add bulk to the pattern, which is essential to trigger the takes. To counteract that floatation bulk, that is on Czech patterns, they add weight to cancel out the patterns natural floatation tendency.
@email16v
@email16v 7 жыл бұрын
You really should demo with a string, old fly line, or small rope because we can't see js when you use fishing line!
@wesleywillard
@wesleywillard 4 жыл бұрын
What rod wt/length and fly line work best for this technique?
@TheSlideinn
@TheSlideinn 4 жыл бұрын
I like a 10' 4 wt. KG
@jamestimko8488
@jamestimko8488 2 жыл бұрын
Great video and new subscriber here! Two quick questions...what is the approximate total length of the rig from end of the fly line to split shot at the bottom? Can you use floating mono or fluorocarbon in place of tippet for the initial butt section? Thanks
@TheSlideinn
@TheSlideinn 2 жыл бұрын
James , I use anywhere from 10 to 12 foot total, for sure you can use whatever you like for the Butt just keep it light as you can. Thanks for watching. Kelly
@christianwood7432
@christianwood7432 6 жыл бұрын
Kelly. I’m looking for high quality calf belly hair. Any suggestions?
@willlarson6405
@willlarson6405 7 жыл бұрын
Wow, great video. This stuff is great to know and I can't wait to try it out. One question I have is how is the tippet tied onto the bottom fly in order for it to leave line for the split shot? In other words, is it just a simple clinch knot on bend of the hook?
@TheSlideinn
@TheSlideinn 7 жыл бұрын
Will I go with both the tippet line and the split shot line out of the eye, thanks for watching. KG
@michaelterry1147
@michaelterry1147 3 жыл бұрын
How and what size split shot on bottom of drop shot.
@tysonolsen6147
@tysonolsen6147 Жыл бұрын
How do you transition from the butt section of the leader to this rig?
@jderifaj
@jderifaj 8 жыл бұрын
This is fantastic, and I have tried it. It is totally flexible etc..I did get a lot of tangles using this. My question is: What if your tippet is say...4X? Do you use 4X for your perfection loops?
@rossmurphy4593
@rossmurphy4593 7 жыл бұрын
Same question. I've not tried this yet but I would imagine you would need to go heavier to keep it standing out. Have you figured it out? I would also like to know what he normally ties this in.
@TheSlideinn
@TheSlideinn 7 жыл бұрын
Ross, I don't go heavier. The perfection loop doubles the line up at the base so I don't have to much problem with it
@rossmurphy4593
@rossmurphy4593 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to answer questions. This method is much better than the standard. I managed to find a diagram on a forum that was credited to you and that showed the details of diameters and lengths. I found it pretty much tangle free when I tried it last night but I needed a better indicator. The yarn that I usually use was not good enough to float all the weight. I'd drop shot year ago with bait and found it superior for not getting snagged but I'd never done it fly fishing. Things we learn as kids when worming can easily be carried over if we don't get into this mental block of fly vs. gear fishing. Thanks again guys. Great videos.
@theoutdoorangler1173
@theoutdoorangler1173 7 жыл бұрын
I'm assuming this is good for steelheading? I know steelhead are hugging the bottom alot
@TheSlideinn
@TheSlideinn 7 жыл бұрын
That is where I started doing this, and why I did the sliding dropper. Most of the fish ate the bottom fly and when it was in line the fish would always catch the upper fly in the trees ( I was in Mi then) anyway I always used lighter tippet on the dropper so when it hung up the dropper broke off and I was still connected. KG
@Inlandrouteflyfishingupnorth
@Inlandrouteflyfishingupnorth 4 жыл бұрын
TheSlideinn this is illegal in Michigan. Maybe it wasn’t when you lived here but it’s illegal to hang a weight below a hook on inland waters in Michigan. lol
@redshaftedflicker
@redshaftedflicker 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks tons, gotta love it--those bass gear heroes know their shit, haha. With this system, I'll start fishing more nymphs no doubt instead of losing them in the rocks, lol.
@andrewgio1
@andrewgio1 7 жыл бұрын
is it crazy to use tungsten drop shot weights like in bass fishing with your rig?
@TheSlideinn
@TheSlideinn 7 жыл бұрын
Not at all, whatever gets it to the bottom. I like to be able to change quick so unless there is a new style out there the weights I have seen will be harder to put it on and off. The tungsten putty is a little soft for the feel I like but will work. KG
@jeli5559
@jeli5559 4 жыл бұрын
Great tag line method. I’ve tried a few and this is the easiest. I also tried to find formula on your website, but couldn’t find it. Curious what size line you are using for the tag line in this video as it stands out at 90 degrees to blood knot so must be 3x plus? And what size tippet between first and second blood knot? 5x? Thanks for putting out great information.
@jeremyfairbanks9010
@jeremyfairbanks9010 4 жыл бұрын
Same question here.. I picked up some 2x in hopes that it’d do the trick
@TheSlideinn
@TheSlideinn 4 жыл бұрын
Jeli i use 4x most of the time on my tags and even 5x on a rare occasion. thanks, KG
@-Daryk-
@-Daryk- 6 жыл бұрын
I do this with a spinning rod, but without an indicator and about a 1/4 ounce weight on the bottom. It’s not the prettiest thing ever but it sure as hell works.
@mikechristenson4652
@mikechristenson4652 7 жыл бұрын
what size of line do you use for the loops?
@markboero4215
@markboero4215 6 жыл бұрын
Mike Christenso
@EatShredSleep87
@EatShredSleep87 2 жыл бұрын
How would you put a stop knot below top fly on the dropper loop if you want to move it up?
@TheSlideinn
@TheSlideinn 2 жыл бұрын
ESS, I use a blood knot but in reality because the fish is not pulling on that knot you can use a double overhand/granny knot as it is simply a stopper. Thanks, Kelly
@brianamado4366
@brianamado4366 6 жыл бұрын
This is stupid smart! Why didn’t i think of this? Can’t wait to fish it with chicken liver and sweet corn! Thanks guys.
@TheSlideinn
@TheSlideinn 6 жыл бұрын
Use cream corn they like it better. KG
@briggs13a
@briggs13a 3 жыл бұрын
Great video ,thanks.Do you ever use beadheads or weighted flys?
@hillcountryflyfishing5064
@hillcountryflyfishing5064 3 жыл бұрын
Not with this system. No real advantage other than attractor since the weight(s) sit below the flies. The fly's need to move downstream above the weight. Tight lines.
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