DROPPING IN to Pilot Rock in Pisgah | Redemption 17 Ep. 14

[@bkxc]

I finished the Pisgah Enduro in yesterday's video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e2XZd2B9mMelipo Tomorrow we'll be on Alexander's channel with another awesome ride in Bent Creek! Patreon folks will be seeing ahead of the game: www.patreon.com/posts/redemption-17-11432535

[@willlucas1032]

BKXC when you ride and you are cruising, why do you put your thumbs on the outside of your bars?

[@yuriboiblu]

just like when we are lifting weights :-)

[@dicksplatts007]

BKXC you can get a tape that comes in a tube (can't for life of me think of its name) that once wet goes on like a bandage but when it's dry is as hard as metal it's a good thing for one of you to carry in ya bag

[@rysesanity1589]

What santa cruz bike do you have?

[@MrJamie1410]

I like how real this is. You're showing off the grind to get there and not just the fast descent. Makes me feel better about having to get off and push sometimes haha!

[@bkxc]

Thanks Jamie!! It was a total grind

[@cosmicheretic8129]

Well said! Real biking for the average peeps.

[@live4uncbball]

12:26 love that line! For anyone who doesn’t see it the first time through, definitely worth sessioning. Thanks for the video

[@garethjackson4364]

14:22 Totally The Golden Rule! Left my phone on the roof of the car on the way to a race last week. Realised after 8 miles driving in the pi**ing rain through hill and dale. Went out to check - fearing the worst...It had slid off the roof and wedged itself in the rear wiper. Save! Loving your work man. Inspirational, truly.

[@bkxc]

Hahaha crazy!!

[@rsaad9]

Dude! Thank you! Was laying in bed this morning debating on going for a ride. Now im getting ready for the ride! Video pumped me up! Live free. Ride Hard. Get Stoked!

[@bkxc]

Love hearing that!

[@gitlike]

rsaad9 I don't want to know what sort of 'debating' you were doing in bed this morning! Haha!

[@jobbieking2644]

Awsome love these back to back videos with Alex and Seth.

[@bkxc]

Glad you're digging them!

[@willbros1499]

THAT is what I'm talking about! I could probably live without the foliage, but as far as trail that I enjoy...that's it. Starting at around the 10 minute mark down...YESSIR, I'D LIKE TWO PLEASE! Chunk, and critical line choice where you're making line decisions every second. I LOVE that style of riding!

[@bkxc]

Haha yeah man, I absolutely love that stuff. Something about the craziness and the way the bikes move.

[@jecarn129]

Now that was an epic! You ain't doing it right without hike a bike! Rock on guys 🤘🤘🤘

[@bkxc]

Haha, we thought we were going to clean it all. NOPE

[@alexthemtbr]

I don't want to be that other guy giving you crap about riding a broken frame. Hell I've done it on over 10 bikes 😂 but just be aware. If your bike fails on the Chainstay, you are walking out from wherever you are. Once that cracks, the seatstay will snap and then possibly the other side. You could get a major catastrophic failure and you won't be able to ride the bike out. I've done the same thing in Bend, OR on an Intense Carbine 29. So I wouldn't ride crazy far from a point of rescue. Just don't want you to be fucked! But anyways, Amazing Ride Brian! Wish I could go back and shred those trails😍

[@bkxc]

Yes, it's definitely a gamble. The crack is very minor, but the frame is definitely compromised for the NEXT big hit. I appreciate the true life advice instead of "You're crazy"

[@icecreamtrucker6400]

Perhaps you can just replace the swingarm/rear triangle Brian? That would cost significantly less than a whole new frame.

[@B1KER]

I would think it should be covered by warranty. Maybe call ahead to a shop in a city you are heading to, to get them to order the new swing arm. Then just swap it out when you get there.

[@icecreamtrucker6400]

B1KER, pretty sure it's not covered under warranty as it was caused by a crash. However, I'm sure he could pick up a "crash replacement" swingarm for somewhere in the neighborhood of 25% off.

[@TonyMannyGallo]

Jeez I also had my Santa Cruz 5010 chainstay compromised when riding in Bend, OR in the same exact spot as Brian... damn lava rock strike that I don't even remember hearing.

[@ecycled3d]

Tears, tears in my eyes man! Thanks for posting this. Years ago I had the pleasure of riding this area about twice a year. Out west now (CO) but oh how I miss those beautiful fast tunnels of green lusciousness. Rhododendron, ferns and moss everywhere. Fantastic work capturing this. That route you guys were on is such an epic ride. Peace!

[@bkxc]

Such a great ride! Glad you enjoyed the trip down memory lane!

[@alanneronski9103]

Watching this brought back good memories. I have not been out to pilot rock in years. This trail looks just as much fun as I remember. Time for a road trip to pisgah.

[@bkxc]

Awesome! Glad to give you some flashbacks

[@mikieson]

said it before..ill say it again..I LOVE the hootin and hollarIN and laughing..THAT to me is proof of enjoyment!! RAD ride guys!!

[@bkxc]

AWESOME! We're fired up and we want to share it

[@colinwooldridge8971]

Hey Guys..........just found these videos last night..........ended up watching about 10 one after the other. Like one other comment mentioned, these are pretty real life like we all experience.the ups as well as the great downhills. I have just dug my old Santa Cruz out and started riding again before i found these vids and they are certainly a little bit of inspiration to get my fat arse off the sofa and start riding again. Thanks for the vids.........know what i will be watching for the next few evenings.

[@bkxc]

Awesome dude, welcome aboard!! I love hearing that you got inspired to get out and ride!

[@tamserenity]

That looked absolutely wicked! Narrow and chunk! WOW!

[@tamserenity]

After commenting I heard Alex say "that is wicked." LOL!

[@mikem1286]

I think that was my favorite trail yet. That down hill section with all the chunky stuff was nuts. It was like the rough stuff just kept coming. You guys make great videos!

[@bkxc]

Me too man! I really dug this video!

[@energ8t]

I love seeing guys try hard to get better. I feel like I'm riding with you. Reminds me of my adventures.

[@bkxc]

AWESOME! That's what this is all about

[@JoaquinBridges]

Wow that is some crazy uphill. Every video you get better at picking lines. Great video you guys. Thanks for continual motivation to get out and ride.

[@bkxc]

Thanks so much! Glad to get you fired up

[@sethismename7499]

Jesus Christ Brian your line choice is getting so good! I guess that's what happens when u ride tons of different kind of trails across the world.

[@bkxc]

Haha yep, pretty much HAVE to get better with all the miles I'm doing.

[@lmrecorders]

This is one of the best mtb videos I've watched. I loved that trail and how hard it looked. It was so claustrophobic at times as you zoomed along. The freaking best. Also great riding from both of you.

[@bkxc]

Haha man, it was a tough one! Thanks man

[@effie2206]

Fan to watch even the slow climbing parts, but the section when you are right on Alex tail are some of the best I've seen.

[@bkxc]

Thanks man! When we're rocking those descents it's always a good time.

[@RyanMarcyesOutdoors]

The is a super sick trail, I love the natural vegetation tunnel around the 10:00min. mark!! I'll be heading up to NC real sons I am going to have to hit some of these trails up!! Live-Life-Loud, Bro.!!! Keep the R-17 kicking!!!

[@bkxc]

That part was so damn cool! I ope you get to ride it and see it for real!

[@cameronritcher6696]

I asked a local 50 or 60 year old lady to recommend her favorite trails in the area and she told me this loop saying "it actually climbs really nicely". I was expecting a picnic and got humbled SO fast. Great video

[@Cinnabuns2009]

The good thing is, you guys rock! Love what you're doing and why you're doing it. The exploration, experience, and of course, the spectacle. Great videos and keep up the tough job we all wish we could do. ;)

[@bkxc]

Thanks so much man, I appreciate a little critique and insight!

[@Cinnabuns2009]

I've found critique is important for progression, even if its some half boned idea from some half boned nit-wit like me. We're all just freaking wierdos trying to find our way down the trail.

[@dougcolafella9384]

You guys are amazing! Rode this last weekend, awesome adventure but those downhill switchbacks ate my lunch!!

[@jerryhack5192]

Life on the road makes it very hard to eat healthy. Nugget count understood Brian. Love the vids!!! Keep em coming!!!!

[@bkxc]

Seriously hard, but I try my best! Thanks Jerry

[@braullotolentino27]

That's some slippery trail right there way to go guys! good thing Alexander have some good bail out skills.

[@bkxc]

Haha yep he is the Sultan of Sketch

[@SonyaLooney1]

Pisgah has such awesome riding!

[@bkxc]

Rugged fun for days!!

[@RGCastro7]

Beautiful trail, guys! That kind of technical trail is my favorite. Brian, you were inspired with those line choices, man! Your instincts are really sharp now.

[@bkxc]

Thanks a ton dude! Felt good to nail some of those really tough climbs.

[@Kerobinson15]

My 2 favorite dudes. get so stocked when I see the notification of a new video

[@bkxc]

AWESOME! Thanks Kyle

[@nathanfeaster5140]

DAMN Brian that was sick!!! Awesome riding, thank you so much for sharing your adventures with us.

[@bkxc]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@ReluctantRider]

That was sick! Love the sound of the Santa Cruz on the chunky stuff!

[@bkxc]

I loved the hell out of the sound!

[@alexanderhall4744]

Me and the homies are about to spend the weekend in Brevard. Can't wait to shred Pisgah and Dupont! This video gets my hype

[@bkxc]

Hell yeah!

[@IIMRCLEANIII]

Hey for that crack you might want to look into Fiber Fix. Maybe carry a roll with you. way better than tape. When I cant ride I watch you blast the trails. Thanks for letting me live vicariously through you. Awesome ride.

[@bkxc]

Definitely gonna look into it, thanks!!

[@jakecooper5451]

great riding today lads! Brian your riding is getting gooooood! slick lime choices and strong climbs. Alex is smashing it! It's almost like he hasn't had 9 months off due to a dickey shoulder🤙🤙🤙

[@bkxc]

Thanks Jake!!

[@ATBRides]

Good technical stuff. Watched it before my bike ride today and couldn't wait to get on the bike!

[@bkxc]

AWESOME! That's what I love to hear

[@BrianSchade2016]

Holy crap, that was intense! So many rocks and so sketchy. And that climb was insane!

[@bkxc]

Haha yep, the total package!!

[@mtbmick7715]

haha hearing Alex being impressed at BK's climbing skillz at 5:07 was the same noise I made... and then seeing his own a moment later. I know who I climb like ;) Puts the slipperiness into perspective, I wouldn't get up 1/8th of that climb. Killer ride guys, can't wait for tomorrow

[@bkxc]

Hahaha

[@Shorts4LifeYT]

One of my favorite videos so far! Keep up the good work guys!

[@bkxc]

Me too, dude! Thanks

[@Scott-mk7tz]

Yeaahh! Back to the rocky technical stuff.

[@bkxc]

😁👍

[@connorshoree]

Brian dude keep up the good work love your videos you've inspired me to ride more than just my local trails and really go out and get lost in the woods thank you for That

[@bkxc]

I love reading comments like this dude! So glad to get you inspired

[@rdevil25]

Yes! This is the stuff of dreams.Awesome Brian and Alex \m/

[@bkxc]

Thanks Rob!! It was great

[@JustinCaseWages]

OMG the Nugs! haha I'm secretly craving some though.

[@bkxc]

Hahaha I'm loving it 🎶

[@ThunderStruckMTB]

Man, I think that was the gnarliest trail yet! Chunk doesn't even come close to describing it...... Jealous of you guys for sure!

[@bkxc]

BIG time chunkleupagus

[@pedrovaldivia690]

Thanks for sharing the videos Brian, that was a grinding climb and a rough descending, but I bet it was fun as it was fun to watch

[@bkxc]

It was!! Glad you got a kick out of it

[@tn8584]

boom. that was a hell of a climb. well done boys. we live through you 😁

[@bkxc]

Thanks dude!

[@polishguywithhardtospellna8227]

5:13 dancing with the stars! some jackson moves...

[@bkxc]

Hahaha

[@matthewbasquez4373]

you guys are freakin awesome , you made it ok for me not to have shame to carry my bike on wet slippery trail .. That trail was wicked, I wander How much better Phil would have ridin that trail... Not taking away from you two, I follow u and alex and will continue... great video

[@PeterCPRail8748]

Well nuggets this has to be one of the rockiest trails you have been on up and down. A nice gem for sure. By the way your skills are improving you stayed on your bike more then Alaxander.

[@bkxc]

Haha thanks Peter!

[@ilikewasabe]

should have put a bkxc sticker to the crack :)

[@willjepson7770]

that would be gold

[@bkxc]

Hahaha

[@bnadit1949]

This needs more likes

[@filip1997andersson]

Flextape would have been better

[@Scott-mk7tz]

12:26 That was some serious Nate Hills level technical skills Bryan.

[@bkxc]

Hahaha getting there!

[@lordphillipmtb]

Why am I just now seeing this video?? Seriously, awesome watching you guys ride Pisgah. You got 1 more sub here

[@bkxc]

Haha, it's a good one! Thanks dude

[@B1KER]

That trail was crazy gnarly! There was the one climb Brian made it up and even the gopro made it look steep so you know it was like a wall! BTW, Alex looks like Dave Grohl with his new haircut.

[@bkxc]

Hahaha exactly! Alex was amazed at how steep it looked on the GoPro!

[@SilveryFoxster]

Some serious riding skills on display here,.

[@bkxc]

😁👍

[@Friskee62]

One Hell of a ride...that was sick.

[@bkxc]

It was a good one!

[@antiherobc]

Nice one Brian, as always. I bet that will buff right out bro ;) That trail does looks very Euro/Alpine like, except for the overgrowth. I love that stuff. I can't wait to get back out there and break myself on the Alps.

[@antiherobc]

Just wait till you discover Q-Bond

[@kimrice394]

Tough trail. Rented a Santa Cruz 5010 in Tahoe, awesome bike! I can see how there are so popular.

[@bkxc]

Nice!!

[@lemo_manda6076]

This videos make me so Happy, Just Love Them !!

[@bkxc]

Thanks Benjo!

[@twosencefromcleveland6084]

your videos ROCK! Thanks...

[@bkxc]

Glad you dig em!

[@workhorsemtb7075]

The glove map check had me rolling!

[@garydecker3281]

Love El Chapala! That trail is so tough you guys did awesome!

[@bkxc]

Such great food! Thanks Gary

[@justinheide2015]

Intense environment, you guys always make it fun. Next year "Road to Fajitas".

[@bkxc]

Hahaha LOVE THAT!

[@knordberg]

You guys ride together so much, you should do a list of "who's best at?" Like uphill, downhill, technical, jumps, healthy eating, best decision-making, etc. I know Alex yells the most. lol

[@bkxc]

Haha that'd be cool!

[@allanjohansen4797]

In regards to not putting things on the top of your car , i sign that , i've lost things that way . Nice vid !

[@bkxc]

Hahaha yup

[@anthonyhan4019]

Awesome trail. I like the format of each day different channel keeps the trip fresh. I would have taped my frame too!

[@bkxc]

Thanks Anthony, glad you're digging the vids!

[@partyinparadise]

I love your lifestyle and videos. Someday I will follow the same path.

[@bkxc]

I hope so man!!

[@polishguywithhardtospellna8227]

So envy of this trail guys!

[@bkxc]

It's one of the best!

[@sebastianpuzon5041]

reminds me of the so called Enduro Trails in Bielsko-Biala in Poland

[@bkxc]

Nice!! I gotta get there

[@wew2exp]

Burly downhill fun, but that climb looked downright painful. According to your Strava that thing hits a 30%+ grade. Late in the climb too. Good work boys. As you've said "pain and pleasure." Now I need to get my ass to Pisgah.

[@bkxc]

Hahaha, that's a legit push uphill. GET THERE!

[@steveschafer6298]

Great vid, awesome trail. Felt like I was up there riding. Thanks for posting -

[@bkxc]

Thanks Steve!! I hope you get to ride it some day!

[@HerbsmanRevs]

Great riding there buddy, fun to watch

[@bkxc]

Thanks dude!

[@abstraddic0442]

That's a tough S.O.B ...Way to grind gents !!!

[@bkxc]

😁👍

[@amc_sounds]

Riding on a cracked frame? You sir, are crazy. Steel is real!

[@paulheger136]

yup that looks like Pisgah alright. Nice ride BK!

[@bkxc]

Haha thanks Paul

[@Sharpbevel]

That is one gnarly trail. That's all we have here in Kodiak.

[@bkxc]

NICE! I still want to get there!

[@Sharpbevel]

BKXC I was thinking about you this AM while I was out riding the logging trails. Very steep. Kept saying "pain & pleasure". Lol!

[@brianfurtaw7893]

Pilot Rock relentless climb you guys crushed it, that's a trail I always hit when I go to Brevard, how come nobody ever shows the climb.

[@bkxc]

Very relentless!!

[@BockaufBiken]

I ride the exact same Mavic shoes except the color! You are absolutely right, these are heavy duty mtb shoes! I ride mine for nearly two years now and there is no real reason to replace them. They are still fine! Sadly they got discontinued so I bought two more pairs so I never ever have to worry about mtb shoes again :D

[@bkxc]

Nice!! I really dig em.

[@runnerrennur1]

Some cracks are more/less major than others. The bronson has a super minimal paint job, but sometimes the carbon flex can cause the paint to crack and its possible that your carbon may not actually be cracked. The best way to test this is get some black nail polish and put a dab of it on the crack. If the nail polish cracks it is revealing that there is movement in the carbon crack and you should probably get a new chainstay, but if the polish doesn't crack it means you can keep riding for a while. Like Alex pointed out below though, you are still going to be risking it for the "next big one" either way you go.

[@bkxc]

Interesting tip! I think it's a real deal crack, but about the best possible place to crack!

[@MateuszPlewicki]

I think crash replacement is best thing to do, but ... Last time our common riding buddy Matt cracked his road bike frame, and he has done it twice already, he gave it to Calfee for repair calfeedesign.com/repair/ Thats the alternative

[@trailjunkie7302]

Wow between this and what happened to your friend with the broken bar I feel really good about my alloy framed camber haha. Love that chunk on those climbs though. Looks like a fun one Brian. Good stuff.

[@bkxc]

Hahaha always something! Thanks dude

[@derp-t4k]

Really been enjoying the videos. Thanks for posting! I said it last fall, but you should come take a tour of Jackson, Tetons, Wydaho area. I'm sure you would smoke me but would be happy to show you some of the area trails.

[@bkxc]

Thanks so much Kyle! Shoot me an email with info, I'm always looking for new places to ride [e-mail]

[@callmelawrence9546]

man, brutal climb, awsome descent.

[@bkxc]

Well worth it!

[@bradleytrew4832]

Great video those rocks definitely reminds me of when you where in Spain soooo nice 👌👍

[@bkxc]

Thanks Bradley, it was just a little taste of that sweet spanish stuff!

[@jonathancox2969]

Wow. That was awesome! I live in PA and have heard a lot about Pilot Rock. I've been waiting for a good video and want to go check it out. If you liked Pisgah, you would love Michaux State Forest. Backcountry and with just as much rock, it makes for a taxing, but epic ride. Maybe not on this East Coast trip, but on the next you should come check it out. I would also recommend Rothrock State Forest near State College, PA, Harrisonburg, VA, Kingdom Trails, VT, Perry Hill, VT, and Davis, WV.

[@bkxc]

Dude, I hope you get down there and ride it!! LOVE the recommendations!

[@jonathancox2969]

No problem Brian! On the next road trip you'll have to hit those destinations up in the Mid Atlantic and Northeast. Make it the Revenge 2018 or whenever you so choose.

[@bkxc]

Yeah, I REALLY want to do a northern border thing with North Dakota, Minnesota, Michigan, Vermont, etc.

[@jonathancox2969]

Huh, I haven't heard of the Northern border thing. However, I know Copper Harbor and the trails in Northern VT. They are the most well-known, but there are other hidden gems across the east coast. Just a little digging involved.

[@thetrailmonkey7190]

Just all round good stuff. This series has me more hooked than GoT

[@bkxc]

That's a great compliment right there!!

[@CaptainCahoot]

This video was a fine example of plus size tires are sometimes needed for a wet climb.

[@bkxc]

Definitely!

[@VWMurcielago]

Dude! Just spent a week in California, weather was wonderful, but the thing I bring back is Lucha Libre's Burrito. The Surfin' California was awesome. It had a combination of shrimp and other good stuff.

[@VWMurcielago]

Correction, Shrimp and fajitas and other good stuff. Damn I still about it. 😂😂😂

[@bkxc]

Haha love it dude!! The food always makes a trip so much better.

[@zenkigo]

this one was full of rocks and so tight nice road

[@bkxc]

I loved it!

[@zachhilty6822]

My only bike is a hardtail... and the stuff you were riding made you guys look like me on "normal" trails;). I personally find it more fun though to have to choose nice lines or else face having to walk or bail!

[@bkxc]

Whatever is more fun is more better!

[@gabehalasan8338]

Is there a place where we could get Redemption 17 apparel especially them stickers?? I'd love to get my hands on a few of them and wouldn't mind supporting you guys by buying some stuff

[@gabehalasan8338]

BKXC If I can't get the stickers I'll happily get shirt! Hope you guys ship internationally since I'm from Australia:)

[@mtbmick7715]

but what if we are on the other side of the planet? It's a bit far to meet!

[@Esteb858]

Seriously chunky! I hope you share your experience with the replacement rear triangle. I'm pretty sure Santa Cruz will help you out with a crash replacement of some kind.

[@bkxc]

Yep, I'll definitely talk about it once it happens!

[@motiamiful]

did your back wheel had a flat when you removed your bike from the car mount? min 1:44

[@simonbright8320]

I thought that as well. It looked flat as hell.

[@bkxc]

That's the only way to get my fat tires into Alexander's roof rack

[@LarsBoon]

How big are your tires? I have 2.4

[@coreyhetrick5006]

If/when you contact santa cruz about your frame I'd love to see an update vid. I have a Hightower and to see the Bronson hurt makes me a little sad.

[@bkxc]

Of course I'll talk about it

[@OPPIDUM666]

Amazing Trails .... like Spain ... like Portugal ! amazinggggggggggggggggg keep going

[@bkxc]

Thanks so much Ricardo!

[@OPPIDUM666]

=)

[@jthdvs55]

Just bought a shirt. Looks awesome in red!

[@bkxc]

THANK YOU!!

[@Trevlyn006]

That looked like a great grind and ride. Hope the Bronson is good.

[@bkxc]

Seriously great ride! Bronson has been doing fine!

[@PizzaWatts]

Watched this before doing the Pisgah 111K race. Definitely helped!

[@upperparkranger5665]

I miss these old simple videos of you guys just riding

[@richardcassidy946]

After a long hard ride anything tastes like the best food ever. Even the northbound side of a southbound skunk might take good. 😜

[@bkxc]

Hahahaha, never heard that expression before about the skunk, love it.

[@cliffbike100]

Great climbing and descending.

[@bkxc]

Thanks Cliff!

[@endurofordaboys1768]

that was a sick video man, epic ride, redemption 17 is on fire man 🤘

[@bkxc]

Thanks a ton Troy! Glad you're digging it.

[@gnash6359]

first video of yours i clicked on, subscribed & hooked already. nice work dude