The Bernoulli Integral is ridiculous

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Dr. Trefor Bazett

Dr. Trefor Bazett

Күн бұрын

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@SilverLining1
@SilverLining1 Жыл бұрын
WARNING: At 2:40, he replaces a function (e^xlnx) with its taylor series. This only works because the taylor series of e^x converges everywhere, so e^f(x) converges everywhere for all functions f(x). However, if you try to do this with a function whose interval of convergence does not cover the interval of integration, then you end up integrating with the a different function outside the interval of convergence than what you started with
@AH-jt6wc
@AH-jt6wc 7 ай бұрын
the exp(x) function diverge when x tend to infinity right ? you said converge everywhere
@elquesohombre9931
@elquesohombre9931 7 ай бұрын
@@AH-jt6wcthe Taylor series expansion will converge to the values of exp(x) at any given point. Convergence here is not being used with end behavior in mind. There are functions (example: 1/(1+x^2)) that are not analytic and will not converge to the function it is trying to approximate beyond a certain radius. For this particular example, that radius will be 1 given that you use an expansion at the origin, because the series expansion tries to approximate it for all values including the imaginary unit i, and it doesn’t do well with irregularities like dividing by zero. exp(x) doesn’t have this issue so the Taylor series expansion will converge to exp(x) rather than being limited by something like the previous example.
@TrueRyoB
@TrueRyoB 4 ай бұрын
smartest koisheep
@laitinlok1
@laitinlok1 Ай бұрын
Yes for definite integral, when you do substitution, you need to change the range?
@a3wassver47
@a3wassver47 Ай бұрын
damm koishi
@imeprezime1285
@imeprezime1285 Жыл бұрын
The Bernoullis reproduced like rabbits. Should have better studied Fibonacci kind of problems
@railx2005
@railx2005 Жыл бұрын
Goddamn intelligence runs in the family
@darkking2436
@darkking2436 Жыл бұрын
The Fibonacci sequence grows in an exponential order so maybe that's not such a great idea either
@bonks4395
@bonks4395 Жыл бұрын
@@darkking2436 Makes a 69 sort of pattern, so less kids, more fun
@combcomclrlsr
@combcomclrlsr Жыл бұрын
Okay. That was good.
Жыл бұрын
I would have hoped they would have involved more people outside the family when reproducing, than Fibonacci's rabbits did.
@andraspongracz5996
@andraspongracz5996 Жыл бұрын
At 5:41 when you plug in, you should put e^(-u) in a big pair of parentheses, to emphasize that you execute this exponentiation first, and then raise the result to the power (n+1). The way you wrote it, by convention, means that e is raised to the power (-u)^(n+1), and that is totally different.
@mathopo237
@mathopo237 Жыл бұрын
I was going to write the exact same comment on the exponent. Still good videos though
@ES-md1pm
@ES-md1pm Жыл бұрын
Thanks for pointing out. I was also confused how this could be equal. The quote position is actually not correct.
@Inception1338
@Inception1338 Жыл бұрын
​@@amrm155that's like remote punch right into the stomach.
@stephenarthurhadley
@stephenarthurhadley Жыл бұрын
Thanks for pointing this out. I was having the same issue as other people and thought he was doing some ninja math.
@Bozzigmupp
@Bozzigmupp Жыл бұрын
@amr m Don't you always write i=0 under the sigma
@jppagetoo
@jppagetoo Жыл бұрын
Back when I was a math major, we tackled this very integral in one of my advanced calculus courses. After I left college I went into programming. Sadly, I never used much of the math again. So forgive me 40 years of eroded skills. I still love this stuff. Having a strong math backgroud has always served me well.
@evansaschow
@evansaschow Жыл бұрын
I always forget you can’t always swap sums and integrals. My physics profs always just do it without comment
@niepowiem5894
@niepowiem5894 Жыл бұрын
But you shouldn't tell that to mathematicians! ;)
@r_bear
@r_bear Жыл бұрын
The nice thing about physics is that most things in the world are sufficiently nonpathological such that you can play fast and loose pretty safely 😅
@OtherTheDave
@OtherTheDave Жыл бұрын
Wait, why not? I was always taught that “the sum of the integrals is the integral of the sum”.
@obelustilde9427
@obelustilde9427 Жыл бұрын
​@@OtherTheDave Yes that works for finite sums, but infinite sums are defined as the limit of a series. So when you want to interchange them with an integral, you have to interchange a limit and an integral, which isn't always possible.
@socraticmathtutor1869
@socraticmathtutor1869 Жыл бұрын
From a math standpoint, it's fine to do the integral switcheroo thing without justification, so long as you present your findings as a mere conjecture and not as a proof. So in some sense, there's nothing wrong with physicists omitting the justification. They just have to understand that what they've done is found a plausible answer to the question they're asking, but without a proof of the correctness of that answer. Unfortunately, a lot of physics types don't really get and/or worry about these kinds of "subtle" distinctions, despite that they're obviously important, and actually not very subtle at all.
@bhavesh.adhikari
@bhavesh.adhikari Жыл бұрын
this professor never lets me stay away from mathematics.
@DrTrefor
@DrTrefor Жыл бұрын
math will grip you forever! :D
@paulthompson9668
@paulthompson9668 Жыл бұрын
@@DrTrefor The limit of y=x^x as x approaches 0 is undefined. Doesn't that mean that the integral in your video is undefined?
@cnutsiggardason2014
@cnutsiggardason2014 Жыл бұрын
@@paulthompson9668 plus you only really need it to exist almost everywhere to integrate so having the endpoint undefined doesnt matter
@paulthompson9668
@paulthompson9668 Жыл бұрын
@@cnutsiggardason2014 Is that a rule for integration? I'm not trying to be pedantic, but sometimes a single point matters and sometimes it doesn't.
@Unprotected1232
@Unprotected1232 Жыл бұрын
He will find you and he will math you. There is no escape. Even KZbin is not safe.
@violintegral
@violintegral Жыл бұрын
Another clever way to evaluate the integral from 0 to 1 of x^n*(ln(x))^n w.r.t. x is to use Feynman's trick, i.e. differentiation under the integral sign, a special case of the Leibniz integral rule. Start with the integral I(t), defined as the integral from 0 to 1 of x^t w.r.t. x, with t being a nonnegative continuous variable. I(t) is the first and easiest integral anyone learns in calculus, evaluating to 1/(t+1) after applying the reverse power rule and the Fundamental theorem of calculus. Next notice that, upon differentiation w.r.t. t and exchanging the integral and derivative operators (the derivative becoming a partial derivative under the integral sign), that I'(t) is the integral from 0 to 1 of x^t*ln(x) w.r.t. x. So differentiating I(t) once chains out a single factor of ln(x). This pattern continues, meaning I''(t) is the integral from 0 to 1 of x^t*(ln(x))^2 w.r.t. x, I'''(t) is the integral from 0 to 1 of x^t*(ln(x))^3 w.r.t. x, and so on, since d/dt(x^t) = x^t*ln(x) and ln(x) is a constant with respect to t. Therefore, differentiating I(t) n times and evaluating at t = n returns the integral in question, so I^(n)(n) is the integral from 0 to 1 of x^n*(ln(x))^n w.r.t. x. To evaluate I^(n)(t), look back at I(t). Since I(t) = 1/(t+1), I^(n)(t) = d^n/dt^n(1/(t+1)). Now a seemingly difficult problem of integration has been transformed into a rather simple problem of differentiation. To evaluate this nth derivative, look at the derivative for the first few values of n and try to recognize a pattern. I^(0)(t) = 1/(t+1) = (-1)^0*0!/(t+1)^(0+1), I^(1)(t) = -1/(t+1)^2 = (-1)^1*1!*1/(t+1)^(1+1), I^(2)(t) = 2/(t+1)^3 = (-1)^2*2!*1/(t+1)^(2+1), I^(3)(t) = -6/(t+1)^4 = (-1)^3*3!*1/(t+1)^(3+1)... , the pattern continuing on up to I^(n)(t), suggesting that I^(n)(t) = (-1)^n*n!/(t+1)^(n+1), which can be proved by induction. Finally, evaluating I^(n)(t) at t = n gives the desired result: I^(n)(n) = (-1)^n*n!/(n+1)^(n+1). Some lessons to take away from this solution are 1) that recognizing and exploiting patterns can be very helpful when solving math problems and 2) starting with a similar-looking problem that you know how to solve can often provide some insight into the solution of a more difficult problem. As an aside, this method of differentiation under the integral sign can equivalently be used to prove that Gamma(n+1) = n!, giving a greater intution as to why this technique gives the same result as that of this video, but I will leave that up to you!
@TheEternalVortex42
@TheEternalVortex42 Жыл бұрын
This is basically the same as iterating integration by parts
@violintegral
@violintegral Жыл бұрын
@@TheEternalVortex42 How? It seems to me that, although both solutions give the same answer, they are fundamentally different.
@Ramsey_erdos
@Ramsey_erdos Жыл бұрын
If u look up cambridge step 3, 2009 question 8 it is on this exact integral and its a very excellent question i remember doing it when studying. Very fun to figure out and pleasing result :)
@MichaelRothwell1
@MichaelRothwell1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this beautiful solution to the Bernoulli integral ∫₀¹xˣdx. Just a small point about the value of 0⁰. At the start of the video you mentioned the apparent contradiction between the rules x⁰=1 and 0ˣ=0, and wondered which rule should take priority when x=0. As far as I am concerned, the x⁰=1 rule definitely takes priority. This is because it is valid for all real x≠0, whilst the 0ˣ=0 rule, on the other hand, only applies for x>0, with 0ˣ being undefined for x0 it is 0, for x0. If we let a→0 and take the pointwise limit of these functions, we get 0 for x>0, 1 for x=0 and ∞ for x
@charetjc
@charetjc Жыл бұрын
0^7 is zero multiplied seven times. Zero multiplied by anything is zero. x^0 is x multiplied zero times. If you assume an implicit coefficient of 1, then you get 1 multiplied by nothing (not even zero), which is still 1. 0^0 is zero multiplied zero times. Again, assuming an implicit coefficient of 1, then you get 1, because that implicit 1 was never multiplied by zero (there are none).
@MichaelRothwell1
@MichaelRothwell1 Жыл бұрын
@@charetjc Agreed. The empty product argument is an excellent justification for 0⁰=1. It is the basis of BriTheMathGuy's video "The Most Controversial Number in Math" (kzbin.info/www/bejne/oH_Lm3VqisuFb6M ). Another excellent argument (but probably too abstract to be understood by non-Mathematicians) is the map counting argument: if A and B are finite sets with cardinality m and n respectively, then the number of maps A→B (essentially, the number of m-tuples with values in B), written Bᴬ, has cardinality bᵃ. This rule is certainly true if A and B are not both empty, so it is logical to extend it to that case also. There is exactly one map ∅→∅, and that is the empty map ∅. So we get 0⁰=1.
@BlankTH
@BlankTH Жыл бұрын
And on top of that, when dealing with integrals we're really only dealing with the open set of values within the boundaries of the integral. And since x^x approaches 1 as x approaches 0 this is the value we're after, not the value at x^x when x=0, regardless of what it is.
@crosseyedcat1183
@crosseyedcat1183 Ай бұрын
Numberphile I think did a nice video about 0^0 and while this intuition works for real numbers, for complex values, it is considerably more... complex. Many of the limits introduced don't converge.
@MichaelRothwell1
@MichaelRothwell1 Ай бұрын
@@crosseyedcat1183 Sure. But the thing is that there are several good reasons to define 0⁰ as a number that have nothing to do with limits. As a limit, 0⁰ is indeterminate, both for real and complex numbers.
@p.kalyanachakravarty7530
@p.kalyanachakravarty7530 Жыл бұрын
Your presentation of this problem is really motivating me to try on my own such incredible integrals !
@DrTrefor
@DrTrefor Жыл бұрын
TYPO 1: I got a bit silly with whether my index variable is called i or n. It doesn't matter, it just needs to be the same throughout! TYPO 2: At 6:30 I use a power rule (a^b)^c=a^(bc). However, I should have make it explicit that there is brackets around all of e^(-u). Clarification: The key trick in solving this integral was writing the integrand as a power series and then interchanging the integral and the summation. If the sum of the integral of the absolute value of a sequence of functions converges, then we can do this interchange (this is a consequence of Fubini's Theorem). In our case, the integrands are either all positive or all negative, depending on n, so taking absolute values is equivalent to removing the negative signs in the resulting series which we can show converges via the ratio test. This justifies the interchange.
@kasiphia
@kasiphia Жыл бұрын
Integral of the cube root of tan(x)?
@stackalloc7741
@stackalloc7741 Жыл бұрын
thanks, I was really confused by the second typo.
@PrasiddhTrivedi
@PrasiddhTrivedi Жыл бұрын
​@@stackalloc7741 me too! I came to the comments to ask precisely that and see it was already clarified.
@zhongyuanchen8424
@zhongyuanchen8424 Жыл бұрын
You also made use of the fact that the integral over the product measure of a discrete counting measure and a given measure is the same as summing outside of the integral.
@TrongNguyen-sz4wr
@TrongNguyen-sz4wr 3 ай бұрын
I be confusion in this equation, but know I understood
@steverainingagain7956
@steverainingagain7956 Жыл бұрын
When he said "i will leave this as an exercise for you" i got severe PTSD of my maths professors at uni. Very rarely did they show us how results came about lol
@ChemicaLove
@ChemicaLove Жыл бұрын
The answer is intuitively obvious and left as an exercise for the student..
@steverainingagain7956
@steverainingagain7956 Жыл бұрын
@@ChemicaLove what is intuitively obvious for a college professor who has years of research under their belt may not be the case for students. I dont feel like leaving properties or theorems for students to find on their own is particularly useful when the work is relatively new to the students. Feel like it rarely had the desired effect and instead led to a lot of acceptance of mathematical facts without knowing why, a teaching practice which is holistically frowned upon in mathematics
@badnoodlez
@badnoodlez Жыл бұрын
​@@steverainingagain7956so you don't think students should work and obviously the prof spent their PhD ruminating over trivial exercises. 😂😂😂😂
@steverainingagain7956
@steverainingagain7956 Жыл бұрын
@@badnoodlez what an absolutely gross misinterpretation of what I said. You don't think students have enough work to do without being left to piece together theorems and properties from work that is relatively new to them (the entire concept of 'proofs' was a very new thing to myself in my maths degree)? Challenging students to discover for themselves is a great tool when used correctly, but was totally abused by professors during my own degree experience. It came across that they clearly prioritised their other work and research over lecturing and used this "leave this to you as an exercise" as a mere shortcut so that they didn't have to bother spending any more time elaborating. Most of what they asked us to prove on our own as students we were not capable of and they rarely provided solutions for those who were unsure. Myself and many others had to resort to online tutorials and lectures over our own professors.
@JaimePenaAlvarez
@JaimePenaAlvarez Жыл бұрын
Absolutely loved this video. Thank you Trefor for bringing this gorgeous integral ^^
@DrTrefor
@DrTrefor Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@michel_dutch
@michel_dutch Жыл бұрын
x^x is such a bad boy. You've gotta be a math nerd to understand, but I just like that function. I am curious however whether it actually represents something in the real world, in the same way that n! expresses the number of permutations of n objects.
@bengal_tiger1984
@bengal_tiger1984 Жыл бұрын
How many possible mappings are there of a set of cardinality n with itself? Each element can be mapped to any of n possible elements, since there are n elements, we have n times n times n... n times, so n^n. Combinatorially, a^n is more versatile. If I have a 4 digit pin, there are 10^4 pins I could choose from, since for the first number there are 10 options, for the second 10 options, same for third and fourth. Similar principle. This kind of discrete math appears a lot in applications.
@cara-seyun
@cara-seyun Жыл бұрын
n^n occasionally came up when calculating entropy, but I’m not a thermodynamist, so I can’t tell you how often it useful it is
@abdefsdf
@abdefsdf Ай бұрын
The sum at the end is basically 1/x^x for odd x - 1/x^x for even x. For even x this sums to pi^2/6 as in the Basel problem. But no one has been able to find the 1/x^x odd ones yet, hence why he doesn’t show the exact value of convergence
@MamouSimo
@MamouSimo 7 ай бұрын
Great video thanks, In the challenge examples at the end, the first one should be : Int 0 to 1 (1/(x^x)) dx = sum (n=1 to inf) 1/(n^n) and not 1/(n^2)
@terryjwood
@terryjwood Ай бұрын
I remember discussing difficult to integrate functions in my undergraduate computer science numerical methods class. And I remember thinking the Newton was genius to see that infinite trapezoids could be used to solve the problem. I also felt badly that Newton lived in a time before computers, but thank goodness I was alive NOW! 🙂
@sirB0nes
@sirB0nes Жыл бұрын
Sorry if I'm the 80th person to point this out, but your final summation is indexed by i while the terms are indexed by n. It was correct when you first introduced the Maclaurin series for the exponential function but, after you computed the integrals and put the whole series back together to finish the problem, that was when the i showed up.
@terrycole472
@terrycole472 Жыл бұрын
What might be fun is a short video discussing what I was taught to call "Indeterminate forms" such as your example - zero to the power of zero - but including: - anything divided by zero, - infinity (or at least the cardinality of the continuum) to the power of zero, - anything to the power of infinity, and so forth, with attention to the way some make even less sense than others.
@padraiggluck2980
@padraiggluck2980 8 ай бұрын
Excellent presentation, professor. ⭐️
@jonschwann
@jonschwann Жыл бұрын
Using the Basal problem and the steps to solve it, you can get a final solution to this as n goes to infinity of pi^2/12
@farhanahmed2508
@farhanahmed2508 Жыл бұрын
Professor you blow my mind
@hamunami
@hamunami Жыл бұрын
すばらしい。どうしても解けなかった問題を解いてくれた。
@vichea24
@vichea24 Жыл бұрын
Thanks 🙏🏻 teacher . Me from Cambodia 🇰🇭
@Daniel-yc2ur
@Daniel-yc2ur 9 ай бұрын
To finish it off split the series into the odd and even parts to get rid of the (-1)^n, then re index the two sums to get the Basel problem and plug in pi^2/6
@PeterParker-gt3xl
@PeterParker-gt3xl Жыл бұрын
This beautiful solution by Johann Bernoulli is justly shown here by the professor, involving e/ln, integration of x, lnx b/w 1 and 0; IBP was not used then, the same Johann who was stumped with Basel problem, and got to admire Euler's solution, (sadly w/o Jakob). You are a teacher I am looking for.
@Alex-jk2qy
@Alex-jk2qy Жыл бұрын
Lovely integral bud
@tamatratsu7756
@tamatratsu7756 Жыл бұрын
The answer is 0.5
@belalsherif553
@belalsherif553 Жыл бұрын
that's one great piece of math right there!! thank you
@DrTrefor
@DrTrefor Жыл бұрын
Glad you think so!
@belalsherif553
@belalsherif553 Жыл бұрын
@Dr. Trefor Bazett I really learned a lot from you and am still learning. I appreciate your great work.
@SolomonUcko
@SolomonUcko Жыл бұрын
integral from 0 to 1 of x^x dx = - sum of n from 1 to infinity of (-1)^n * n^-n
@looney1023
@looney1023 8 ай бұрын
This, along with an even nicer integral, is collectively known as the "Sophomore's Dream"! The other integrand is x^-x and the result is even nicer: integral(x^-x) = sum(n^-n)
@nikitasidorov8722
@nikitasidorov8722 Жыл бұрын
This constant is clearly irrational by the rate of convergence. Is it known to be transcendental?
@artelcampos
@artelcampos Жыл бұрын
6:30 it looked like n+1 was the exponent on -u alone so I didn't think you could do that step like that
@Lory_1502
@Lory_1502 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same, then I rewatched the video and saw that it come from x^n --> (e^-u)^(n+1), so it's correct what he did. It's for the notation that it seems wrong. Anyway, very good video
@jebarijihed
@jebarijihed Жыл бұрын
Well we could make it even more cleaner by assuming that (-1)^n =-(-1)^(n+1) than make a shift by one in the serie expression to fin the resulat equal to the sum from 1 to infinity of -(-1/n)^n
@grant1390
@grant1390 Жыл бұрын
Your Challenge Examples at the end are wrong.
@Straigo
@Straigo Жыл бұрын
Oh neat, the tetrate x^^2. Wonderfully done. I throughly enjoyed your process and pacing.
@michaeledwardharris
@michaeledwardharris Жыл бұрын
That was pretty crazy.
@genekisayan6564
@genekisayan6564 Ай бұрын
Typo. 8:09 for example the infinite sum's index shall be n and not i.
@sebastiandierks7919
@sebastiandierks7919 Жыл бұрын
5:44 The brackets should enclose the entire e-function, not only the exponent. There are already a couple of other comments wondering how you simplified further using the power rule, which was correct, but didn't make sense if the brackets are only about the -u in the exponent.
@DrTrefor
@DrTrefor Жыл бұрын
Yes, I should have been explicit, I'll add a note
@jadenb6281
@jadenb6281 Жыл бұрын
Really trending video, great job!
@skyetharsis7136
@skyetharsis7136 6 ай бұрын
i once actually did the n-fold integration by parts cus i thought it was interesting. honestly im surprised i haven't seen anyone cover that method in a video
@mattikemppinen6750
@mattikemppinen6750 Жыл бұрын
hippotenuse!
@ericfielding668
@ericfielding668 Жыл бұрын
I've got a print of a painting of two brothers Bernoulli deep into some maths hanging above my desk. They wore curly hair wigs like judges used to do.
@moshyroth
@moshyroth Жыл бұрын
That was pretty creative
@GenericInternetter
@GenericInternetter 6 ай бұрын
x = x * 1 x^y = x^y * 1 x^0 = 1 (there are no x's to raise to y) Therefore... 0^0 = 1 The only real debate to be had is whether -0^0 and/or 0^-0 are 1 or -1
@MrMichkov
@MrMichkov Жыл бұрын
It has some real values for negative xs, so like the gamma function. 😀
@toomanyhobbies2011
@toomanyhobbies2011 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this journey down memory lane. Once we realized that Calculus is Algebra with limits, mostly Algebra, it became much easier. Just remember that the endpoints of an integral are not included in the value, because it's ultimately a limit operation. Using a program to evaluate something like 0^0 is just accepting a definition, they simply define 0^0 to be 1. Computers are detrimental to understanding.
@HRNDRX
@HRNDRX 8 ай бұрын
in 9:31 the "challenge examples" in the first integral of 1/x^x the result is not the sum of 1/n^2 it's the sum of 1/n^n
@fahrrad187
@fahrrad187 Жыл бұрын
great explanations! Could it be that you you messed up the variables i and n since the sum counted the variable i but you used n?
@fahrrad187
@fahrrad187 Жыл бұрын
regarding minute 7:38 onwards
@DrTrefor
@DrTrefor Жыл бұрын
Quite right, thank you!
@runenorderhaug7646
@runenorderhaug7646 Жыл бұрын
I admit I like to think about the way interections within the function suggest limitations on them. For example consider this, the existence of the power rule for derivatives seems to suggest that for whole number all odd slope that are on a x of odd power will have come from a fraction and that for a whole number c that could represent any number, there is potentiolly a limit on how low it can actually be if all numbers are whole due to how power will keep multiplying up. I have a 44 page paper on the collatz conjecture, but my record of passing math classes is admittily not perfect due to several issues with hand writing and expression of knowledge on tests themselves... your channel is always a good reminder for fun. Sometimes difficult to find less known rules that you discover yourself but that makes it interesting until you want to confirm they exist already lol XD
@YienLiu
@YienLiu 4 ай бұрын
I know I’ve learned too much in math when I can understand everything he’s doimg
@Brownerskull
@Brownerskull Жыл бұрын
Can you make a playlist on series and sequences
@DrTrefor
@DrTrefor Жыл бұрын
Check out my calc II playlist!
@laplace3945
@laplace3945 Жыл бұрын
Man I wish I could just study math and physics and still live well. I hate my IT job.
@blankj5250
@blankj5250 8 ай бұрын
Could you tell me where you purchased that beautiful T-shirt? Plz :)
@BarnBurnerz
@BarnBurnerz Жыл бұрын
Great integral
@derderrr7220
@derderrr7220 Жыл бұрын
i think i need to learn more algebra absolutely love it.
@bengal_tiger1984
@bengal_tiger1984 Жыл бұрын
This is more in the lines of analysis.
@Inception1338
@Inception1338 Жыл бұрын
I want to write something in between: "I am fully confused, but also satisfied now." to "pfff... Wasn't that clear in the first place?"
@lbigmikei6788
@lbigmikei6788 Жыл бұрын
love the "hippotenuse" shirt
@DrTrefor
@DrTrefor Жыл бұрын
Thankyou!
@EnginAtik
@EnginAtik Жыл бұрын
It is also interesting that x^x has a minimum at x=1/e.
@bengal_tiger1984
@bengal_tiger1984 Жыл бұрын
It's interesting but there is a simple reason! Taking the derivative of x, we find it to be ln x+1(x^x). Now if we set it to 0 and since here 0^0=1, we see (ln x+1)(x^x) is attained when ln x=-1, so x=e^(-1)=1/e. We can verify it is a minimum by checking if f''(1/e)>0: d((ln x+1)(x^x))/dx=(ln x+1)(ln x+1)(x^x)+(1/x)(x^x)={x^(x-1)}{(ln x+1)^2+1} (feel free to correct errors!) We see this as a local minimum as when x=1/e, it turns out to be (1/e)^((1-e)/e), which is positive.
@EnginAtik
@EnginAtik Жыл бұрын
​@@bengal_tiger1984 I think there is a solution without assuming 0^0=1. y'/y=ln(x) +1=0 => ln(x)=-1 => x=1/e
@EnginAtik
@EnginAtik Жыл бұрын
And y'' = y'^2/y + y/x is always positive.
@sergiolucas38
@sergiolucas38 Жыл бұрын
Great video, you're an excellent professor :)
@kyintegralson9656
@kyintegralson9656 2 ай бұрын
@ 5:45 it shouldn't be e^((-u)^(n+1)), but rather (e^(-u))^(n+1).
@aimersclasseslko9089
@aimersclasseslko9089 Жыл бұрын
Sir Pls make a Video series On Beta and Gamma Function Seperately 🙏.
@DrTrefor
@DrTrefor Жыл бұрын
Good idea! I've done gamma in a few places, but beta function would be a good one.
@putin_navsegda6487
@putin_navsegda6487 Жыл бұрын
nice video, thank you!
@airsquid8532
@airsquid8532 Жыл бұрын
Love your content !!
@DrTrefor
@DrTrefor Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy!
@andrijanovoselec7971
@andrijanovoselec7971 2 ай бұрын
I think that uniform convergence justifies the commutation of series and integral, but correct me if im wrong
@druzicka2010
@druzicka2010 7 ай бұрын
why did you transform the sum n=0 to n=infinity into sum i=0 to i=infinity at the end without change n from gamma function ?
@brianswift3991
@brianswift3991 6 ай бұрын
At 7:44 -- I am sure it was just an oversight, the equation evaluates correctly replacing the i with n, but I was looking to see if anyone else noticed it.
@MrCook-if5wo
@MrCook-if5wo Жыл бұрын
Is there a closed-form solution to the infinite sum?
@DrTrefor
@DrTrefor Жыл бұрын
I don't believe so!
@bogdangarkusha8727
@bogdangarkusha8727 10 ай бұрын
you can switch order, integral of a sum is a sum of integrals 😊
@edcify8241
@edcify8241 6 ай бұрын
Not necessarily
@coffeeconfessor4747
@coffeeconfessor4747 Жыл бұрын
This was a fun one. Made a good break after my finance class. Question, do you think a Fuchsian group can be rendered in 3-dimensional hyperbolic space? Since hyperbolic space is weird, and Fuchsian groups are just projections into the hyperbolic space. (Sorry, doing research on Fuchsian groups and the question has been niggling at my brain for a minute.)
@DrTrefor
@DrTrefor Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I have no idea, I'd have to think about that one:D
@Risu0chan
@Risu0chan Жыл бұрын
Eeeeh waitaminute. @8:40 The condition of absolute convergence is not a thing (it has other properties, though, such as the re-ordering of the terms). In order to swap the integral and the summation signs, you need either: 1) uniform convergence; this is the case, because the exponential series Σ y^n /n! has a infinite radius, therefore UC, and even normal convergence is guaranted on [-1,0] or whatever interval (x ln x) spans; 2) dominated convergence; on the interval [0,1], | x^x | = | exp(x lnx) | < 1 and ∫ 1 dx is well defined on [0..1] so it's ok; 3) monotonous convergence; (x lnx)^n / n! < 0 so the series is strictly decreasing as n goes to ∞, so it's ok. Forgive me if I'm completely mistaken, because it's 1 AM, I just came back from a festival, I'm exhausted and I'm doing math, ah ah.
@toanhockhaiphong
@toanhockhaiphong Жыл бұрын
Very good computation ❤
@saphir7632
@saphir7632 3 ай бұрын
When taking eˆxln(x). Since we are working on an integral from 0 to 1, x can be egal to 0 and so ln(0) isn't define. Have we still the right to use ln in this case? Like isn't replacing xˆx by eˆxln(x) impossible since the 2nd expression isn't defined in 0?
@mikkokormann6814
@mikkokormann6814 7 ай бұрын
1:18 You can't you L'Hopital here, because the limits of of numerator and denominator aren't the same, right?
@michaelbaum6796
@michaelbaum6796 Жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation - great👌
@Calculsus
@Calculsus Жыл бұрын
All I did was use upper rectangles. After all, it needed to be approximated either way to obtain numerical values.
@gamerpedia1535
@gamerpedia1535 Жыл бұрын
I did this in a relatively easier way, although not as rigorous. Int 0-1 (x^x) x^x is e^xln(x) which can be represented as Sum(n=0,inf) of (x^n × [ln x]^n)/n! In this case the integral and summation signs can be swapped so you get Int 0-1 x^n × (ln x)^n Applying integration by parts you get = -n/(n+1) Int(0-1) (x^n (ln x)^(n-1)) Doing it again = n(n-1)/(n+1)^2 Int(0-1) (x^n (ln x)^(n-1) And by following the pattern you get (-1)^n×(n to the falling n power)/(n+1)^(n) × (Int 0-1 x^n dx) This simplifies to (-1)^n n!/(n+1)^n × (1/(n+1)) (-1)^n n!/(n+1)^(n+1) Which when we plug into the summation becomes Sum(n=0,inf) of ((-1)^n)/(n+1)^(n+1) Which can also be rewritten as Sum(1,inf) of (-(-n)^(-n)) It's easier though not as rigorous, as it makes an assumption about the pattern of the integral. However this assumption is easy to prove via induction, I just didn't wanna put that here cause it would take a little bit.
@MyStuffWH
@MyStuffWH Жыл бұрын
Have you ever considered setting up a patreon page, or something similar? I would love to support you and this channel in a more meaningful way.
@DrTrefor
@DrTrefor Жыл бұрын
I actually have the KZbin channel memberships turned on, but regardless I really appreciate the sentiment!
@arnfinos
@arnfinos Жыл бұрын
Love the t-shirt!
@pradipbandyopadhyay9689
@pradipbandyopadhyay9689 Жыл бұрын
So so elegant
@eartphoze
@eartphoze 10 ай бұрын
when Tom cruise flies on army planes
@buidelrat132
@buidelrat132 Жыл бұрын
It feels like this integral 0.78343... should have some closed form solution involving trig functions and pi.
@DrTrefor
@DrTrefor Жыл бұрын
If only! Sadly I don’t believe it is the case here
@buidelrat132
@buidelrat132 Жыл бұрын
@@DrTrefor The midpoint at .5^.5 being sin(pi/4) is interesting and tells me I'm missing something about how exponentials relate to rotations.
@venkybabu8140
@venkybabu8140 Жыл бұрын
Substitute x equals one then 2 then 3 Etc. Afterall integration is sum.
@MathOrient
@MathOrient Жыл бұрын
Fascinating.
@mohammadjaveed7404
@mohammadjaveed7404 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic method.
@46swa
@46swa 7 ай бұрын
Why do you not use Keppler: A = (b-a)/4 * ( f(a) + 2f((a+b)/2) + f(b)) = 0,79
@toastyPredicament
@toastyPredicament Жыл бұрын
And he was a Dr.
@jesili2634
@jesili2634 Жыл бұрын
great answer thankj you
@TrueRyoB
@TrueRyoB 4 ай бұрын
this is nuts
@nako7569
@nako7569 Жыл бұрын
*Casually applies the power rule*
@bryancheung5630
@bryancheung5630 6 ай бұрын
07:45 The symbol in the summation sign is wrong! It should be "n" instead of "i".
@qpr543
@qpr543 Жыл бұрын
He reminds of my maths professor who used to gesticulate a lot, in funny manner. 😄
@hoschi49
@hoschi49 Жыл бұрын
2:02 its Not a Trick. Its the Definition.
@danielstets8649
@danielstets8649 Жыл бұрын
When you switched the integral with the sum in the beginning even before you said it I was thinking dominated convergence theorem or monotone/bounded CT
@derschwarzerabe9848
@derschwarzerabe9848 Жыл бұрын
good job
@luismijangos7844
@luismijangos7844 Жыл бұрын
7:57 the index in the bottom of the sigma symbol should read n=0 instead of i=0
@derekdonner3115
@derekdonner3115 Ай бұрын
Dominated Convergence Theorem could have justified the change of limits...I mean, you just can't expect to be able to do that
@redroach401
@redroach401 6 ай бұрын
7:36 isn't that pi function since gamma function would be n-1 instead of just n.
@powerfulmath1914
@powerfulmath1914 Жыл бұрын
You are my inspiration Sir!
@abe1433
@abe1433 Жыл бұрын
Hmmm, the last two integral challenges don't check out. 1. If the integral of 1/x^x from 0 to 1 is the summation of 1/n^2, then it equals pi^2/6 which is about 1.645...but the integral is about 1.2913, and 2. if the integral of x^sqr(x) from 0 to 1 is the summation you show, then it equals the Catalan constant (about 0.9160), but the integral is about 0.6586. Nice video though! Thanks! 🙂
@grant1390
@grant1390 Жыл бұрын
Yeah - he put down results that are wrong for those two challenge examples.
@alexandermorozov2248
@alexandermorozov2248 2 ай бұрын
6:36 - 私はそれがどのように起こったかよく理解していませんでした - (-u)^(n+1) = -(n+1)*u ?
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