The Win98 Machine Finally Gets an SSD

How did this video even get made?
How the hell did this work?

[@FrozenIce]

" *_IT INCREASED THE BOOT TIME BY 8 SECONDS AHHHHHHHHH_* "

[@rrrohan2288]

that converter is a really good IDEa

[@vicr123]

IDE SSD!? That exists? Wow. "You learn something new every day" :D

[@vicr123]

Well, it was quite interesting to me. Merry Christmas to you too :D

[@radostin04wastaken]

THE MORE YOU KNOOOOW!

[@chryastosslapat]

+Victor Tran Didn't know one till now lol.

[@memesoverload9957]

but do u know what is more important than ide ssd, KNOWLEDGE!

[@KernelPanic0]

+ybnrmalatall SCIENCE

[@plaidzior]

You can't deny the power of the HDD CHANGER GENDER!

[@radostin04wastaken]

+Plaid Yeah, HDD CHANGER GENDER, much better than HDD GENDER CHANGER or CHANGER HDD GENDER

[@Bruno-Guitarist]

Or the HDD GENDER BENDER

[@alynicholls3230]

so basically it just needed an 80 pin ide cable instead of 40 pin.

[@LuckyPotatoKat]

Now put vista on a pentium III pls...

[@sw2719]

+Bob Pony (MERRY XMAS!! Oh wait.) Well actually technically impossible :3

[@oldchannel6511]

+Bob Pony (MERRY XMAS!! Oh wait.) Or some sort of lightweight/modified version of the OS.

[@Gamer-df9xt]

I've only gone as low as putting Vista on a Pentium IV.

[@alex-yj9jx]

Gamer 101 im going to try windows 7 on a pentium 4 lol

[@ppcb]

windows 7 works in pentium ||| so windows vista will work too

[@Y10Q]

Remember the scene from Office Space, when Peter is trying to avoid Lumbergh, he backs up a file and it takes him 10 minutes to shut down his workstation, and Lumbergh catches him because of it.

[@NiebaumCurran]

The SSD may not have worked with the first computer because you where connecting it with a 40 wire IDE cable, newer hard disks required 80 wire cables which supported higher transfer speeds like UDMA 133 which appears to be the blue gigabyte cable you used at the end of the video.

[@markusTegelane]

Good luck clicking on annotations, 2020 people!

[@zevin83]

Druaga1 I really like your narration style. Keeps your videos entertaining. I feel your videos should have some more views anyways keep on keeping on with the computer videos. It's nice to see people still playing with the older machines. On a side note I think you went through waaaay too much crap to to shave 8 seconds off the boot time here :D

[@TH700R4]

A video from Druaga1 on my birthday? Ok! Very awesome to see this work. I've looked into those adapters since I have a few of those old laptop hard drives laying around. Nice to know that they do. Also that old cable you used may have not been an 80 wire ide cable. Newer ide drives don't like those lol.

[@WedgeBob]

Actually just pulled the trigger on a 128GB IDE SSD on eBay from Super Talent for $65 after watching this video. Let's hope that will work well in my old Dell OptiPlex GX110.

[@LoneBraixen]

Rip annotations

[@DxDeksor]

Did you activate the DMA mode ? It can increase the speed of the transfert and reduce the cpu usage. Well, since your motherboard is quite newer than windows 98, it may activate this automaticaly

[@eila2088]

Put a SSD in a joint.

[@EricMcTrainshit]

16:25 "Is there something I don't know about P/ATA?" Well, ATA is Advanced Technology Attachment and with the advent of Serial Atdvanced Technology Attachment (S/ATA) we threw a P in front of ATA for Parallel Advanced Technology Attachment (P/ATA) which actually applies to the little 44 pin interface and the big 40 pin interface.

[@Draco04]

80 conductor cable for the win

[@SilverX95]

19:30 never understood why this happens on some ide stuff even the old stuff were you think the 40 pin cable would work fine but no you have to use the newer 80pin ide cable apparently the 40pin is just plane junk.

[@kevinbarton9052]

Very good one, lad. That is something Windows 98/2000 and XP desktops all need solid state drives.

[@BobM925]

Another great and entertaining video! Love that USS Enterprise wallpaper man!

[@V1VISECT6]

Druaga, try Crysis on a pentieum 3 with a ssd, because why not?

[@speechocalschannel1127]

You know, DosBox on your phone is kinda like an SSD also. Try downloading the image and inject Crysis 3 into the image file.

[@stends113]

To me, that carpet is SCREAMING ESD. :D Nice tubes tho

[@KnifePlushie]

Hah, your narration/commentary sounds like the type of talk I do when by myself. YA NERD! :O Very entertaining video, btw, and I liked that false ending. :P

[@youtubasoarus]

Them gash dang converters. :( Seems like it was a pain to get going. But it's cool to see it working.

[@dyllanlove9179]

I think it was because the grey IDE cable was for slower speed drives and the adapter needed the gigabyte IDE Cable which is designed for faster IDE Speeds

[@benmmaddog]

looks like the problem is the IDE cables , the old one (gray) he show is a 40 pin and the new one (gigabyte one) he had plugged in was a 80 pin. I had a similar problem on a DVD drive of mine

[@nilswegner2881]

yeah i have an msi m6156va, that will not come past the hard disk listing, if i do not plug in an 80 pin ide cable into my 80gb harddrive. With a 4gb drive it works just fine with the 40 pin cable

[@retroguy74]

I think the difference was you were using a 40 pin cable and that new one is an 80 pin. Good catch!

[@WaybackTECH]

Shows how much boot time is taken just initializing the hardware.

[@Blurredman]

I guess the HDD (excuse me, SSD) requires an 80, instead of a 40 cable.. Either that or the 40 cable is broken :( Most of my 40 cables have broken through age and use.

[@oso2k]

The adapter board probably is interfering with Master/Slave/Cable Select signal.

[@Deadpixelator]

When you've got 6000 subscribers can you do a q&a

[@Druaga1]

+Deadpixelator Sure!

[@Deadpixelator]

Druaga1 yay

[@_ben.]

+Deadpixelator 11.7k now

[@henryjohnson1071]

21,659 subs now... $&@# !!! Keep up the good work, Druaga!

[@venichen1]

+Deadpixelator Nearly 30k now! Keep it blazing buddy!

[@swartzbay30]

That other white cable is an older PATA design. I think for IDE 33 bus... if you look at the Gigabyte cable, the strands are fine which is for high speed bus... The white one has only a few larger very visible and for older PATA and that likely was the problem. I'm from that era and that makes sense to me.

[@jhj22]

Thank you so much *.* Finally ^^ This Ssd and the Win 98 have got better love story than Twilight xD

[@bnmc]

The legends are true? IDE SSD's exist? Wat?

[@kd7bwb12]

This video was in my KZbin recommended page... Ah yes, let’s all return to the days of FAT32 file structure, and all that entails...

[@OopsieGoopsie]

I was playing rock raiders while watching this. when his started to play music i was like "WAIT WOT?" Mine never played music. Even with and without the cd...

[@mitchellwodach2215]

7:45 lol. I lost my shit lol 😂

[@antecxaser3]

I'm sure you know this but the reason why the gigabyte cable worked is because its a IDE 80pin cable and the one you originally were trying to use was a 40pin.

[@VictorFugazzotto]

I put one of those 64Gb SSDs (it looks exactly the same as yours except its plastic) into my thinkpad 600E when the hard drive died

[@xaer0knight]

now looking back, it was because of a 40 pin IDE cable instead of a 80 pin IDE Cable? if that is the case, very weird, they are cross compatible... all 80 pin is better shielding.

[@nilswegner2881]

it isnt the adapter, it actually is the missing 80 pin cable that is the reason for such problems

[@plainsabertooth7828]

you can get a ide to compact flash adapter. a 64gb cf card should do wonders.

[@adg1355]

It should be possible to buy a PCI SATA card, e.g. SIL3114-based one. They are bootable (got an option ROM) and they have Win 9x drivers so SATA SSDs should be blazingly fast there

[@DJDjoer]

well great try... but remember... the ide bus could also be the bottleneck. would nice if you have a machine can run the full speed of the ssd. the second could be also the sdd could run in a slower mode. but at your test you could say the max of the id bus with the ssd output speed... logical a really fast ide drive would do the same. (like 32 or 64mb cache with 7200rpm)... cool project

[@aweoTV]

a very old SSD, the standart SSd have a SATA Connection, with Sata Power connector..... his one have just pins....... first generation.... Adapter can work, or mistake

[@NowAndyPlays]

Fuck, i didn't give my computer an ssd, i gave it STD's

[@OopsieGoopsie]

holy fucking shit i almost broke my screen trying to kill that fake fly! Good one bro.

[@awsomDixie]

YES. Another video that is guaranteed to be awesome

[@DJBla2e01]

My old Windows ME machine from 2001, with the original Hard Drive and Windows ME, boots in like 25 seconds!

[@DMahalko]

I've installed Windows XP on a 75 mhz Pentium. It's not exactly fast, but maybe an SSD would help.

[@SarpErsoy]

put windows 10 on a pentium 2

[@bpoolxantx15]

Excellent Vid Dude... well entertaining thanks so much :-)

[@vieldcs]

For cdrom sound track laggy. I always set cdrom to 2x speed. smoother while playing/changing music

[@dr.cheater8927]

PATA (Parallel ATA, like Serial ATA) is a synonym to IDE. So mini-IDE is mini-PATA.

[@TomasGregovich]

The "i don't work" part cracks me up every time.

[@thedataflo]

this will work if u use the thinner ide cable atasomthingsomthin cant remember but its a ide cable whit thinner individual cables and for some reason ssd´s work 10 times better

[@lqb.e]

Im here early better make a joke.... The apple watch

[@Deadpixelator]

#unoriginal

[@lqb.e]

I know :) Bye Now

[@alex-yj9jx]

Loris Giuliani shots fired

[@HuntersMoon78]

The whole CrApple company is a joke.

[@BetaMaster2]

hahahahahaha good joke

[@Snowwie88]

I think you would have been cheaper just buying a regular sata ssd and combine it with an IDE->sata converter. Now you purchased a relatively expensive pata ssd and you still have to use an adapter.

[@aidanmontgomery9772]

Apparently that combination didn't work on that machine.

[@maman89]

It introduces sata controller which 98 doesn't support natively unless u spilt stream the driver in 98 or get a floppy driver installer.

[@redey1290]

I love watching these videos since only because i love learning about this stuff. like I've never heard of pata until this video

[@ocass66]

How about an Ultimate Windows 95 Machine?

[@HarvssLadd]

I have a couple of those stupid adapters, they never work. Ive tried reflowing the solder on them and it never worked. Worst case scenario was one of them started to smoke. Buy a HDD hub or something

[@thelazywanderer_jt]

+Harvs Are there hubs with ide connectors?

[@GreenNekoProductions]

15:16 What's the name of the beige tower on the left? I used to have one of those.

[@hycron1234]

What did I learn today? .. Druaga1 is actually a sith lord.

[@weisnoobs]

" Teh annotation Lul" Lmao

[@xaer0knight]

A Solid State Drive on a Windows 98 Machine ROFLMAO! In a circa 2000 machine better off using a 32 GB CF Card (at x600 speed) to IDE Adapter. Most at the time only supported IDE drives at 66 or 100 (and rarely 133, Maxtor had the corner of that buzzword). You ain't going to close to 50MB/sec! It's all about the IDE Controller chipset. My old HP Pavalion Laptop is ATA/IDE 33 even tho the drive itself is ATA100! I an happy to see it get 21MB/s!

[@smpark12]

18:56 who else tried to click one of the things? xD

[@dynamitedinosaur4601]

i hovered over one, but then i realized it was fake XD

[@Omer.6]

8:22 hello darkness my old friend

[@megabojan1993]

I had no idea that IDE SSD's existed at all :)

[@ComradeRachel]

+MegaBojan1993 they are soo pricey tho, i looked into getting one for a powerbook i had but decided was not worth it. 7200rpm drives allready get close to maxing out the data ide can handle. Cant really see real reason to get a ide ssd unelss you must max the performance of a old laptop

[@megabojan1993]

FrostyExchange You're right. In most of the cases it's not worth it to buy a IDE SSD drive for an old PC or a laptop. Also probably the chances are, the SSD will be worth more than the old PC itself :)

[@SidneyCritic]

I was thinking of getting one for my PII laptop but $50 for a $10 laptop sounds a bit steep. I can't find many direct speed comparison vids but the comments I keep reading is that it's not much faster, and that is a deal breaker.

[@TumbleGamerTK]

I'm currently doing ICT BTEC in college

[@robertmosen6126]

All that work for 8sec. Totally worth it!

[@datashe]

17:41 an evil witch has possessed Druaga's body

[@paytonbostwick2899]

How about this video:win 10 on win 1 computer and win 1 on win 10 computer

[@averagegilo]

i would be interested in seeing if it boots up 8 seconds quicker 2 more times (windows 98 was finnicky). Could you show this in another video?

[@ChaseGolem]

That SSD would fit in my External Thingy

[@megabojan1993]

Old PC's benefit from SSD drives, but apparently very old PC's do not benefit very much :)

[@TheRedneckAtheist]

excess CD access time is caused by the SSD flooding the channel

[@TechStache]

Fack I love this videos, i'm such a nerd :B

[@davidp4456]

He makes me feel sick

[@psychoticgiraffe]

try a faster IDE ssd like silicon power or transcend

[@rogernorimaki3318]

My Windows 98 PC boots in less than 25 seconds using an IDE 40GB hard drive, i think yours would be faster because of the SSD¿?

[@FaSMaN]

Can you open the SDD (remove the steel cover) and post some pictures of the SDD itself, it would be interesting to see if its native PATA or if they just got lazy and attached a Pata to Sata to the controller.

[@SoulcatcherLucario]

i know it's six years late, but it's just an m.2 sata ssd with a converter inside :D

[@gmoleivas]

min 21.12 was something, i dont know.

[@adamtheman17]

Why not get a SATA TO IDE adapter board / also IDE uses PINs to make it master or prim / also you wont get the full speed of the ssd because its not a SATA6 port witch has higher speed

[@benjaminslayton4335]

I have Windows vista on an old laptop booting in 48 seconds.

[@benjamin5028]

One the best solutions is VMware pro ver 12.

[@delta_cosmic]

how about installing windows 7 on a SSD

[@tylerhuertas1421]

Why not use a SATA drive with an ide to sata adapter?

[@bigdisme5622]

Merry Xmas bro!

[@legend4646]

the more of your videos i watch the more your voice kinda reminds me of rogueamp, neato

[@anonymouspepper2012]

Click on an annotation *where?*

[@TrilobiteVideo]

sadly, annotations are gone in 2019.

[@25143J2]

i know this is 7 years later but have you tried putting windows 3.1 or dos on an SSD (with an converter to IDE of course)?

[@chadlane9150]

I have a Pentium 4 and it is running xp I have to Pentium 4s but try I'd windows 98 and it would not installed yet that are both have 1 GB of ram and a 3.2 gigahertz processor and it said insignificant resources so do you know why one's a HP and the other is a dell

[@jr540123]

All that shit for an SSD. Jesus Christ and I thought I was a madman.........

[@pokedude104]

wouldnt an IDE ssd be kind of... Counter intuitive? IDE is a slow technology

[@dmcintosh1967]

did update the bios

[@3xclu5iveOfficial]

Lego rock raiders! :D Ah, my childhood!

[@georgealexandru8872]

Make more videos like this ,they are cool,and classic :)

[@a4l1f3]

You sound like the joker from batman

[@thestamper]

80 pin vs 40 pin ide cable.

[@Ratich]

these things exist!?

[@matthijsveldkamp8027]

Teh Annotation was very funny in the beginning of the video, because lul means dick in Dutch. :-D

[@spinn360]

why? SSD is good reason for things that might fall or get bumped, but usually desktops... well they sit on your desktop. Normal Hard drives spin and can get damaged by bumps and drops, but like I said. .. desktop.

[@casperas2]

the problem @ 8:40 happend 2 me as well when i got an ssd for my main pc, had to reinstall everything

[@BUBBA20100]

Sweet