DRUM Recording MASTERCLASS with Nick de Virgilio at Sweetwater Studios

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[@Producelikeapro]

What are some of your favourite microphones for recording drums? Share below!

[@drindy5166]

Aside from individual choices on drums, one of my favorite over top overall mics to use is the Rhodes NT1 A mic for a mix I can bring in stereo and broaden the over all sound.

[@metalman3227]

Hmm SM57 LOL

[@metalman3227]

AKG D112

[@andreirlmeier]

Snare : sennheiser 421 ( from the 60‘s)

[@kristianmarschewski1590]

i do a lot of live sound, and i like the od5 from austrian audio on snare, because on a huge pa the room fills with a nice midrange, but snappy snare.

[@jj-hb8cy]

This has got to be the most expensive drum recording session ever.

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks for the comment! Not even close! Haha any classic recording studio with Vintage Mics would have cost so much more than this! The whole idea of this is show multiple duftend ways to record drums with multiple Mics

[@sixstringalliance4417]

Any old established recording studio would have many hundreds of thoursands more mics! These are all new off the shelf mics

[@DamienTheCat]

It's pretty funny when someone who points 2 AKG414 at the floor (almost 3k right there) and has 2 Neumann's all the way in the back as room mic number 15 and 16 "just in case" just kind of laughs off being told this is maybe a bit too expensive of a setup because vintage mics exist 😂

[@jpilot07]

Definitely lol😂

[@Producelikeapro]

You don't have to use expensive mics! The video is about the mic placement and how they sound!@@DamienTheCat My favourite room mics for The Fray and Aerosmith albums I did were a pair of SM57's against the wall! They sounded amazing!

[@josephdzingomvera1232]

You can never have enough room mics

[@Producelikeapro]

Haha very true!

[@LeChapeauMusic]

Whenever I track drums in untreated rooms, I need zero room mics xD

[@Producelikeapro]

Do you not baffle tight to the kit to prevent excessive bleed?@@LeChapeauMusic

[@LeChapeauMusic]

@@Producelikeapro not on the OHs :)

[@rolandklasen9225]

Nick after playing for an hour straight: “Hey guys, are we done yet? My arms are about ready to fall off”. “Oh sorry, we went to lunch. Can you start over?” 😂

[@Producelikeapro]

Haha he did an amazing job!

[@Nikkie_jurnigan]

@@Producelikeapro i what to know how to mix song in Alternate Version no video how to do that on KZbin

[@isaacleedrums]

“I wish I would have played guitar”

[@walkingdeadlands]

Rofl😂

[@andrewjacobs3731]

Glyn johns has entered the chat… 😂

[@TomCawoski]

Very cool seeing a different approach to recording drums. Yep, that's a lot of room mics - nice having options. It would be interesting to know what kind of drum heads were used and how much muffing was actually used as both of these contribute largely to the sound of the drums. Thanks for sharing.

[@Producelikeapro]

Interesting point! Thanks for sharing that Tom!

[@sweetwater_studios]

The drums have a mix of Remo heads, coated Emperors on the tops of toms, clear Ambassadors on the bottoms, coated Powerstroke 3 on the batter side of the kick drum and a Fiberskyn on the reso head with kick drum pillow touching both heads. Snare was Coated vintage Ambassador and clear Ambassador Snare side.

[@TomCawoski]

​@@sweetwater_studios Thank you for responding, that is helpful. I suspected that Emperors were used on the toms so you confirmed that. It's hard to tell from the video though how much muffling was used on the toms which also changes the sound as well. People like Todd Sucherman of Styx, Dave Weckl and many other pro drummers are using Remo Ambassador heads on tops and bottoms of toms with no muffling for a more open tom sound. I'm more of an ambassador guy myself and I just prefer that more open sound. Thanks for sharing your recording drums process, very interesting.

[@rockinchairboogie3222]

Good video, the one thing I would have changed is the tom sound. They need to ring alittle, they sound like dead boxes. Everything else is great.

[@Producelikeapro]

Absolutely! Tune the drums how you hear them

[@doug.heartstringssound]

Thank you so much for putting this together Warren! You Rock!

[@Producelikeapro]

My pleasure!

[@marc_leblanc]

I always enjoy Nick's playing and sounds. Glad to get some awesome samples!

[@Producelikeapro]

Me too! Marvellous drummer!

[@XenoTravis]

These kind of setups always make me wonder if it actually is a benefit. Like the microphone on the floor or the two microphones up in the corner. I am surprised he wasn't like "this microphone will pickup my fart noises as I air drum" "this microphone is outside. It pickups the windowed noise. Then lastly we have this microphone on a drone. It will catch the atmospheric frequency and give a reverb effect."

[@Joey-rp5vg]

Thanks a million Nick, that was indeed a masterclass, great stuff. Big thanks to the PLAP team

[@Producelikeapro]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@richardsmith1487]

NDV such an amazing drummer listen to him on Big Big Train

[@Producelikeapro]

Yes, wonderful drummer and great guy!

[@pablovazquez8386]

Nick de Virgilio, such a great drummer!!!

[@Producelikeapro]

Wonderful drummer and great guy!

[@pablovazquez8386]

@@Producelikeapro for sure!

[@Producelikeapro]

@@pablovazquez8386marvellous

[@nopeoplecorp]

Maybe you have covered it already, but I would like to see micing options under £1000.

[@Producelikeapro]

Yes! We’ve done lots of drum recording with one mic, two or even three Mics!

[@metalman3227]

Absolutely superb content!

[@Producelikeapro]

Glad you think so! Thanks ever so much

[@buhlir]

@5:11 not a fan of Hi-Hats...?!? lol who isn't a fan of the main time keeper on the drum kit.. its one of my favorite, and one of the most interesting things about the drum kit..

[@Producelikeapro]

He's not saying he doesn't like hi hats specifically, it's about how they balance in the drum kit. Bleeding into the snare in particular is a big problem and getting g drummers to have them above the snare enough can be an issue, using darker hats can help too of course!

[@mypetdrgn]

In other words… there are no rules. Do your own thing

[@drindy5166]

Amazing content as always!!! Love it 👊🧡👍

[@Producelikeapro]

Thank you 🙌

[@FranksDrumCave]

That is a lot of microphones😀😀😀😊😊

[@boblogiii8869]

With love to see this kind of tutorial in a Home studio situation...... My guess is. Not a lot of people who watch your channel have million dollars studios with live rooms and three thousand dollar mikes...... Still cool to see how the pro's work

[@Producelikeapro]

Of course! I have a lot of one mic, two mic etc videos! Most of my mic reviews use very simple drum recording set ups!

[@Dan_Mahoney]

These are the videos I love to watch! Had to try a live stream after watching it!

[@Producelikeapro]

Glad you like them!

[@splashesin8]

:)

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much

[@mrsayang]

Good show and great course. They are showing how to get at least a 32 channel board filled up with a very small dum kit. If you want to record a whole band.....the engineer must say "sorry, no more channels left, we used them all for the drum kit" LoL.

[@walkingdeadlands]

😂

[@Producelikeapro]

Haha well of course showing a multitude of micing techniques iOS going to require that! Better than just showing 0ne way to record drums!

[@mrsayang]

@@Producelikeapro ​​⁠yes true, amazing to hear all those different room mic options and techniques. I have miced my kit aswell and use very good mics and 500 series preamps and outboard gear. But I don’t have a single room mic, just because I have no space for it. My drum room is a very small room inside a world war 2 bunker from 1941 in Frankfurt/Germany. I wish I would have s bigger room, maybe in the future.

[@sixstringalliance4417]

Great video

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much!

[@HR2635]

funny thing that perspective thing.. i'm a drummer, but ALWAYS use audience perspective. I dont produce drum tracks for drummers, but for the audience, the band and the producer. That's my reasoning. And my customers love that.

[@nicefish10]

Sean is an incredible engineer and has just given all of you noobs an incredible insight into how important processing different types of room mics is. Jason… hats off to you as well my brother for inputting only what needed to be said and letting Sean speak about what he was doing. That shows a lot of maturity on your part as well as a willingness to learn from a great engineer.. this video should be mandatory to watching for any aspiring engineer. Nicely done on all accounts!

[@compucorder64]

I don't have such a problem with the fact that this is mostly quite an expensive mic collection. Since, for most of these mics, there are more affordable budget, or midrange alternatives. A cheaper alternative to a real U47 FET, is Warm Audio's and they use the even more affordable United 47. The Lauten snare mic isn't that expensive. Alternatives to Beyerdynamic M160s might be the much cheaper GAP R1-A, or maybe Cascade Fatheads with some bass cut and high-end lift. Austrian Audio OC16s are good cheaper alternatives to C414s. Line Audio CM4s are good budget alternatives to the Schoeps CMC6, or Oktava MK012s. A Cheap alternative to the AEA R-88 might be the GAP R1-ST stereo ribbon mic. And there's Warm Audio C-12 clones (& Mojave M-200 tube mic is really nice too). My budget is lower, so I use Beta 52A & JZ Vintage 67 on kick, and on snare ShureSM7b (bottom) & SM57 (top), Audix D4 (floor tom), Audix D2 (rack tom), Line Audio CM4 (overheads) & Austrian Audio OC16 (stereo room, or sometimes toms/snare bottom), GAP R1-A (mono room ribbon, front of kit, on-axis). Planning to get a second R1-A later for stereo. Would like Beyer MCE930 or Soyuz 013s for better overheads.

[@coreymikus485]

Great video! Most important takeaway…Nick is a badass player 🤜

[@Producelikeapro]

Haha yes! Indeed!

[@tekis0]

What monitor speakers were you guys using? I didn't notice you switching much.

[@aaronaustin7760]

Imported the multitracks and set all the close mics and overheads to nominal and all the "room" mics to -20. Sounded fantastic. I barely had to touch anything. These drums were tuned and recorded to perfection. Well done!

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much

[@ThvonS]

The legend Jan Erik Kongshaug (ECM Godfather of sound engineering) would have given an appreciative nod regarding microphone placement. Thanks a lot for a brilliant review of a complicated and interesting topic

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much! I really appreciate it

[@CashMattock]

That XPressor is killer!!! 🔥🔥🔥

[@Producelikeapro]

Pretty awesome!

[@DamienTheCat]

I learned from this Masterclass that to get a good room sound you need to be rich

[@Producelikeapro]

Haha not at all! You can use different more affordable Mics! It’s the placement that matters! And of course the room!

[@Producelikeapro]

My big room sound for the Fray and Aerosmith albums was a pair of SM57s! $99 each!

[@thesongacademy5017]

Marvellous video

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much!

[@NatureSleepSerenity]

I hope Nick gets some physical therapy for that left hand/arm. Keeps shaking it like it's bothering him!

[@salvadorsuau1198]

Amazing video! But those fast moving arms around an open bottle on a Neve are ruining a little my experience😮... did you that on purpose...? Hahaha, I can t concentrate! Di Virgilio is a monster 🙌🙌🙌!!

[@1loveMusic2003]

Love it!

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks!!

[@niklassilen4313]

Flipping the top mic polarity is what I always do too. It makes sense physically because if you think about the drum itself, it's membrane is being pushed away from the mic first, aka a negative wavefront (low pressure) hits it first.. and of course the exact opposite for the bottom mic. So yeah, flipping the phase on the top is the way to go. Further more, you can also flip the phase of ALL microphones that point down towards the drumkit, including the overheads. This all makes physically sense and will usually yield in a more coherent drum sound when summed at the bus.

[@Projacked1]

Hmm, if you record from the drummer-perspective, don't you reverse the image against the vocals? I never got why people do that. But hey, that's just my view on it. In my head it's the audience that has to listen to the 'performance' in front of them. If you reverse the drums it sounds off, right? The hi-hats f.e are in the wrong spot, they sound more to the left instead of right ,i f I'm looking at a live drum session. It sounds great nonetheless. Does he flip the stereo image in post?

[@robertopistolesi2735]

I can't figure out one thing: there is something that appears to sound like pre-ringing on snare mics, or maybe one of the two. I hear sound coming before the snare hit. Can anyone explain that please?

[@wyattstevens7789]

There sure are a bunch of mics on that set. Sheesh!

[@Producelikeapro]

Yes, download the multitracks and listen to them in any combination you like!

[@slimkickens]

I love 545s on snare

[@Producelikeapro]

Agreed 100%!

[@rainbowmade1880]

I’ll take one of each please… How much? Oh.

[@madaboutwhisky4637]

D112 on kick, SM57 or Audix i5 on snare, Audix D2 & D4 on toms and Rode NT5 matched pair for overheads. Pretty standard stuff, but works really well.

[@Producelikeapro]

Marvellous! Thanks for sharing

[@mikaelsnare]

Kick: Avantone Mondo, Snare: SM57, OH: pair of Se7, toms: t.bone CD55, room: t.bone SC1100.

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks for sharing!

[@slipknotcollector515]

great tutorial! thanks!

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much

[@drmrzrul12]

Feeling a bit insecure about my Audix drum mic set at the moment. Thanks guys! hahah ;P Thanks for the video.

[@Producelikeapro]

Haha I love Audio Mics!

[@dustinthiessen]

mics and drums are cool and all.... but can somebody tell me about these lights hanging off the mic stands?? I need some of those in my life!

[@Producelikeapro]

Haha I can't! Sean would know! Sean?

[@MuddyGunns]

Man. Thats a lot of room mics.

[@Producelikeapro]

Yes! All done to demo how the different variations will sound!

[@oneammonday]

The room mics alone are worth over 50 grand. Oh, there might be more, I don't know, I can't see through my tears.

[@Producelikeapro]

You don't have to buy the same mics! Haha You can use the positioning though!

[@mistersounds2006]

As a bass player can i just say WHAT A GROOVE!! Awesome informative stuff!!!!

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much!

[@thomaswhudson]

I love this, however, you guys should do another video where you are in a very small room where you are not micing so much of the room. This is great though. I have never seen someone use so many room mics, on axis and off, wild stuff!!

[@Producelikeapro]

I have a lot of videos using one mic, two mics, three etc in my small studios live room!

[@marksextonmarkeaux4181]

I got a bunch of cherries out of this session guys! Great communication and solid concepts and logic. Sometimes I need to be reminded to experiment and this session had many great examples with great results. Thanks a bunch!!!

[@Producelikeapro]

Hi Mark, Thanks ever so much!

[@KennethACrashwaggonMusic]

Nice to see I'm not alone in going with the m160 on hihats. Love that sound. And obviously Nick is one of the greatest drummers out there.

[@Producelikeapro]

I L:OVE the M160!

[@StereoAnthony]

Somehow I didn't even know the 545s were around! I've never seen one. Looks like I'm going to have to go buy a few of them.

[@Producelikeapro]

Aha! Yes, there’s been a renewed interest since people found out they were used extensively to mic drums on the first few Van Halen albums!

[@DBMedia1000]

Am I the only one freaking out about the open bottle on top of the console?

[@jazzhausmeister]

You both are so great! Thanks for this demonstration of knowledge, experience and art! In this times, everyone have possibilities for digital music production, you show us the difference!

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much! I really appreciate it

[@Kevinbabbmusic]

a few more room mics and then we'll have it

[@Producelikeapro]

Haha indeed! For educational purposes I wanted them to show MANY room micing options!

[@Kevinbabbmusic]

@@Producelikeapro absolutely. Those tom mics are incredible

[@Producelikeapro]

Absolutely!@@Kevinbabbmusic

[@knight0708]

The drummers amazing playing makes it hard for me to focus on the actual masterclass 😅

[@Producelikeapro]

That's a quality problem

[@flyingjewelstudios]

One of the best learning vids I've seen for drums... very informative. Nice job Warren.

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much!

[@DustinShowers]

Could you share what you mean by "flip the mix analog on the console" right around 42:30... Are you going thru your mixer to an interface and then back out of the interface into the same channels on the mixer? or are you doing patching between tracking and playback? would love to see a diagram or video of your connections! great video, btw. you guys are getting some great sounds!

[@paolotonolo1140]

When I retired from performing, I had to sell my Ludwigs in Order to get some high quality recording equipment,but before I sold it, I spent a week. Sampling my drum set. So now whenever I play my electric kit I can hear my ludwigs haha

[@greganikin7003]

Those drums sound fantastic!

[@Producelikeapro]

Glad you like them!

[@joelarmendariz8876]

great video, awesome info and gear working towards that...

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much

[@madmuso5]

Great vid. At the 51:33 mark, the close mics are un muted as certain room mics are playing and the kick sounds punchy but then he presses some buttons after that and the kick/kit loses its bottom end and punch. Whats happening there?

[@Producelikeapro]

He’s playing the parallel processing then adds close Mics then blends. Might be best to rewatch. All about getting the balance between the elements

[@thesongacademy5017]

Parallel processing brought up all the low end, super compressed, then it's blended in lower. I suggest you download the tracks and hear for yourself

[@Producelikeapro]

Exactly! It was the same mics, however they were crushed so the low end was exaggerated@@thesongacademy5017

[@mikaelsnare]

Nick D'birgilio, one of my favorite drummers! Spock's Beard, but also Big Big Train, both superb underrated prog bands, he also played with Tears for fears live and Genesis in the studio. You should visit Rich Mousers studio , he's recorded and mixed most of the Spock's Beard, Transatlantic and Neal Morse Band records, and mixed the latest Liquid Tension Experiment as well 💪

[@tillsommerdrums]

What would be the Overhead positioning approach for the following: - Big drumset with 3 rack toms (in typical positions) and two floor toms - On the floor tom side there are a lot of cymbals (ride, big crash, big stack, china) - One crash cymbals sits in the middle of the kit (basically over rack tom 3) - There are a mini stack and a splash directly above toms 1 and 2 - One Crash on the hi-hat side I have my overhead mics (SE8 small diaphragm cardioid) set up with equal distance from the snare center. The one on the floor tom side is a bit further away so it gets lowered. The one on the hi hat side is obviously a lit closer to the snare so it sits significantly higher. Floor tom side mic sits more or less in the middle of all the instruments on that side. Hi hat side mic sits above the outer edge of the crash cymbal. I'm just not sure wether they are too far apart or not far enough and if I should gain match them or not (since floor tom side gets bashed with a lot more sounds than hi hat side). And if they maybe are to close to the drums or not close enough. Hi hat side mic is probably 1 meter above the crash cymbal and floor tom side mic is probably half a meter above the cymbals there. I know it's hard to say without pictures but what are everybody's thoughts on this ? Thanks!

[@BBfanfun]

without the proximity effect of Cardioids, i tend to boost the low end. ... then you learn it leaves more space for Kick & Floor Toms.

[@PurpleMusicProductions]

Those drums sound fantastic! It goes to show capturing a great sound at the source is critical and makes a huge difference. That drummer is a beast for real. I am crafting out a percussion room with sennheiser small e906s close mics and e914s as overheads with a Neumann Tlm 102 as a room for now. I thought about trying to make a drum room but I do not see that is possible just yet, because the room is just as critical as the equipment itself.

[@codycreepcore]

Ahh I like that Nick said he flips the polarity of the snare top, instead of the bottom. I remember seeing a video from Jeremy from Recording Studio Loser, where he likes to keep the initial attack of his drums in the positive polarity, and the snare top is usually negative as the head is going away from the mic. Gives them all a bit more punch since the speakers are pushing towards you and not away. Nice to confirm that method for myself.

[@BeesWaxMinder]

🤯👍

[@sixstringalliance4417]

Some people flip the overheads for the same effect.

[@Producelikeapro]

Flipping the polarity of the snare top may make it sound more in phase with the overheads (reversing the polarity of the overheads will do the same), however the mics are pointing in the same direction so the snare would actually be inverted. That was one 'old skool' solution some engineers did. These days we can delay the snare slightly to the overheads or some people like to use autoalign software. I hope that helps?

[@Producelikeapro]

Indeed Sixstring!

[@alexmagor]

All my favorite recordings were done on analog tape. In those days you didn’t have the luxury of so many mics due to track limitation. Usually close mics and 2 room mics was all you got. So you would need to really choose carefully how to set them up, what mics, how far you want them, where to point them and with what polar pattern, etc...

[@greenfingersw1]

This is so good! Inspiring.

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much

[@jobstmonter3910]

Schoeps und die 160 er stehen auf meiner Liste zum habe wollen….das Lauten klingt lecker .Warum wird im Studio so wenig Grenzfläche als Kick in benutzt? Von Beyerdynamic gibt es eine kleine hervorragende grenzfläche? Wie wäre es im Raum Kleinmembran Mikrofone zu habe da die gewöhnlich den Raum besser darstellen?🤔 aber interessant 😉 das ev Mikro ist oft unterschätzt

[@kristianmarschewski1590]

Grenzflächen werden benutzt, vorallem für Metal, weil die sehr clickig und direkt klingen, die "Standard-Kombo" ist Sennheiser E901 und ein Audix D6 (als Kick out). klingt schön fett, aber kontrolliert in die Fresse :). M160 sind richtig geil, leider sind die in den letzten Monaten im Preis deutlich gestiegen :( Kleinmembraner sind tatsächlich eine Gute wahl für Roommics, man muss nur aufpassen, dass die Becken dann nicht zu schrill werden, und mit großmembraner, oder sogar Bändchenmikros hat man deutlich mehr Mitte

[@jobstmonter3910]

@@kristianmarschewski1590 jipp da hast du recht…deswegen war ich froh das mal einer die Schoeps genommen hat,die klingen nicht so überbetont und den Raum bringen die auch hervorragend……suche nach kleiinmembranern ohne Presentzanhebung und gute Raumaulösung😉 hab selbst line Audio cm4

[@kristianmarschewski1590]

True schau dir vielleicht mal die kleinmembraner von austrian audio an, die könnten dir gefallen

[@bahgo]

WTF? I'll stick with one ribbon mic.

[@Producelikeapro]

That's in there too! It is a demo of multiple ways to record drums! You can blend any combination you like!

[@HolyGhostDrummer]

“We have never used this mic before” - lmao there’s nothing but drum stick dust ALL over the mic 😂😂 I love it

[@Producelikeapro]

We just put it up that day! It came out, that day! Haha Nick had been recording with it that day! So yes, there was drum stick dust on it. Haha

[@sixstringalliance4417]

Yes the Lauten snare mic came out a couple of weeks ago LOL! No way they could have used it for any period of time before

[@Producelikeapro]

Yes!! We got it that day!!@@sixstringalliance4417

[@tracyeaves4847]

Seem like everybody has there own favorite mic'ing and placement

[@BlackenedNL]

Incredible to watch! Man that TG1 sounds so damn cool the way it is compressing

[@Producelikeapro]

Marvellous!

[@Producelikeapro]

Love Chandler!

[@emankayker8257]

i have the opposite haircut, short on top and long on the sides, can i still get a good sound?

[@Producelikeapro]

Can you get a great sound with a Mullet? Good question! Sounds like you’ve got a Billy Ray Cyrus haircut! Go country!

[@dtonesmith766]

That tall drink next to the console is trouble😮😅😢

[@andreasbreitwieser1449]

I'm overwhelmed by the sound!

[@Producelikeapro]

Marvellous

[@douglasmarcolinotrio]

Super top🫶🏾

[@mathenoo]

those stands to hold pencil condensers

[@Producelikeapro]

If you've got them use them!

[@davidreidy5750]

Thats alot of room mic's, 🤖🛸

[@Producelikeapro]

Yes! As a demo it shows multiple ways of micing and you can use any combination of Mics you want to use

[@avelord6135]

How many mics should we use for this? yes.

[@hancockgeorgejohn3309]

What's the measurements of the room mic ratio to the overheads mics?

[@brianmcrae2053]

Great Video!!!

[@Producelikeapro]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@mechanismstudios3459]

You'd figure they'd have a better screen setup

[@Producelikeapro]

I taught a masterclass there for a week and didn't;t have a problem with the screen, what issues do you have with it?

[@mechanismstudios3459]

@Producelikeapro I don't have a problem with it, it just looked kinda out of place with top of the line everything else in there ya know.

[@Steviee8]

THAT WATER BOTTLE!!!! ON $$$$$$ NEVE!!! Love it!

[@mrmusic21]

I think they need more mics.

[@Producelikeapro]

Haha it is a demo of multiple ways to record drums! You can blend any combination you like!

[@slinger169]

42:19. Perhaps the best pause screen of all time

[@micahalston8974]

Do you have a track list

[@sweetwater_studios]

Kick In - Shure Beta 52a Kick Out - United Fet 47 Snare top - Lauten Snare Mic Snare Bottom - Shure 545 High Hat - Beyerdynamic M160 Rack Tom - DPA 4011 Floor Tom - DPA 4011 Overhead Hat - Schoeps CMC-6 MK4 Overhead Ride - Schoeps CMC-6 MK4 Off Axis Blumlein - AEA R88 Off Axis Pair - Telefunken 251 Off Axis Far Pair - AKG 414 XLS On Axis Blumlein - AEA R88a On Axis Pair - Telefunken C12 Boundry Pair - Earthworks QTC 40 Dynamic Pair - Electro-voice 635 Far Mid Hight - Mojave MA-37 Far High Hight - Neumann M149 Vocal Mic - Telefunken U47 - 1176

[@steveSticksE]

excellent

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much

[@kronbakeren]

thank you heaps!!

[@DerrickMatindo]

Henry Hart works at Sweetwater now?

[@Producelikeapro]

I imagine that's a joke? However I have no idea who Henry Hart is!

[@DerrickMatindo]

@@Producelikeapro he's from the shoe 'Henry Danger'. Find a picture or a video clip and you'll instantly get it!😅😅

[@MarshallorFender]

Warren, I record in Logic Pro and use the AI Drummer’s they have. Because it’s so easy and convenient! However, you once said you sampled your 74’ Ludwig snare. I think 74..? Anyway, I’d basically like to get a recorded sample from your Ludwig snare, any kicks you’ve recorded, overheads etc and substitute the midi files for the midi’s that logic has. All to get a higher quality drum sound with the function of Logics Drummer. Is there a way to do that and can you provide some details and or a video tutorial? I know I’m not the only one that likes the drummer function in Logic but wants to have different samples then what Logic has. Am I making sense :). Any help is appreciated and you are awesome to watch and pay attention to.

[@Producelikeapro]

Here's a link to my free drums samples and more! producelikeapro.lpages.co/plap-free-stuff-without-trial/

[@MarshallorFender]

Appreciate the link and appreciate you. Thank you!!

[@Producelikeapro]

You're very welcome!@@MarshallorFender

[@zolwikwkurwik]

Let's connect every mic we have in the studio and that's how we record drums

[@Producelikeapro]

Haha if that were the case there would be several hundred, possibly thousand more! The studio is owned by Sweetwater haha

[@vminator]

Those M160's definitely don't look "matched" lol. That is also an insane amount of mics. You probably don't use 50% of those mics in the mix.

[@Producelikeapro]

Exactly! The idea of doing a recording Drums masterclass was to show off multiple ways of recording!

[@Producelikeapro]

Also, I will overdo it and then pick and choose on the final mix

[@Producelikeapro]

Better to have and not use than to not have!

[@jobstmonter3910]

Haben ist besser als brauchen 😉🙃

[@vminator]

@@Producelikeapro I guess it seems like more mics because all the room mics are stereo pairs. But Hey, if you have pairs of R88’s and 251’s, Use them!! Haha. Those overhead mics sound great. Been tracking drums pretty heavily, I appreciate you touching on this subject again.

[@eweesplace]

Really glad they addressed the lopsidedness of the equidistant mics. I will sometimes see overheads that are much more even in height and I always wondered what drove the less equidistant choice.

[@mirkomarkovic3438]

Depends on the drummers setup, but most of the time they are not lopsided

[@eweesplace]

@mirkomarkovic3438 so, for standard spaced pair? There's the concern of it pulling the snare to one side though, yeah? And maybe that's okay. I'm no expert, and just curious how that is addressed in those scenarios

[@mirkomarkovic3438]

@@eweesplace equidistand from the snare doesn't mean they can't be at the same hight. As i said it depends on the setup, if he has a wide setup with more toms or cymbals you can get the same height

[@eweesplace]

@mirkomarkovic3438 totally makes sense, thx.

[@micahalston8974]

Can you give us a track list.

[@sweetwater_studios]

Kick In - Shure Beta 52a Kick Out - United Fet 47 Snare top - Lauten Snare Mic Snare Bottom - Shure 545 High Hat - Beyerdynamic M160 Rack Tom - DPA 4011 Floor Tom - DPA 4011 Overhead Hat - Schoeps CMC-6 MK4 Overhead Ride - Schoeps CMC-6 MK4 Off Axis Blumlein - AEA R88 Off Axis Pair - Telefunken 251 Off Axis Far Pair - AKG 414 XLS On Axis Blumlein - AEA R88a On Axis Pair - Telefunken C12 Boundry Pair - Earthworks QTC 40 Dynamic Pair - Electro-voice 635 Far Mid Hight - Mojave MA-37 Far High Hight - Neumann M149 Vocal Mic - Telefunken U47 - 1176

[@micahalston8974]

Can you tell us where you used the compressor for parallel compression. Which set of room mics you use the parallel compression on.

[@mucous-membrane]

He knows his onions. Hahaha!!!

[@Producelikeapro]

Haha indeed