Drum Throne Mechanics Part II - Avoid Back Pain, Heel Up vs. Heel Down and Weight Placement

[@nikcrocker6380]

Really informative. Very useful and a gateway to furthering skills in drumming thru eliminating ‘lock-ups’ in limbs that bad setups cause to the skeleton&human anatomy.

[@doubler9692]

Outstanding!... I wish I had this information 50 years ago, but I'm using it now and it WORKS! Thank you and keep up the GREAT work.

[@i3zd]

brandon these videos are awesome! everything is so well explained. i'd love to hear you and dave elitch go back and forth on this stuff.

[@Rockin_Ross]

Great video series! This addresses an aspect of our art rarely talked about, yet often complained about. I look forward to the next one.

[@MarkosVassiliou]

Awesome thank you again, this is really great and helpful! Here are some ideas you can elaborate on: -Snare, tom and floor tom height and angle. -Cymbal positioning, height and angle. What would be best for the back, shoulders, neck, elbow? Big thanks to you Sir!

[@sallyhubert9027]

Another very interesting and useful video , thank you

[@m_edrums]

Thank you for this content. Im having back pain after loke 1 hour playing drums and I think you explained the reason, thank you!

[@brandondrummechanics]

Glad to hear!!! Thanks

[@kristenmichael744]

would love more videos pertaining to drumming and anatomy. Thank you so much for making this content.

[@brandondrummechanics]

More coming! Thanks!

[@michaelcoyne1833]

Very helpful. Greatly improved my range of motion.

[@parrattdiddle]

Thank you Brandon. Superb and informative. I have sat too low for years because my heroes did and it’s just how it makes the groove feel good. I’ve been sitting a lot higher as per your suggestion and yeah feels good man. Lots of power because you’re also using the weight of your whole leg in the downstroke. It’s less tiring too. Sooo helpful. Late to the party I’ve just discovered Virgil Donati. Virgil has such nice posture on the kit and a really nice straight back and such power. It also has helped with the snare drum back beat stroke. Really helpful. Thanks again. 😊🥁🤙🏻

[@PlayToxia]

I really love this kind of videos, first things first, first health and then paradiddles hahaha, Greetings!

[@raydrysdale2726]

Just found your channel and I like it! I always applied engineering mechanics to my drumkit posture and hands - it's so much better to be able to see things from an anatomical perspective, thanks!

[@dobosar87]

Can you show in the next video some exercises for the spine?

[@skirwan78]

great video, super knowledgeable and well demonstrated

[@brucevilla7490]

I like using a back rest to relieve a lot of the stress on my lower back.

[@passtheparcel2007]

Excellent, well done. I stopped playing double pedals in the 80s. So no problem for me there..

[@brandondrummechanics]

passtheparcel2007 fantastic! Thanks for your comments

[@eyesonfire4301]

Excellent follow up video. Thanks again for this very helpful info. :D

[@jcbear08]

great videos, keep them coming.

[@dencon310drums2]

Again.... thank you for a great informative video.

[@R.I.P_Itachi]

great video, thanks. hope this doesn't sound like a weird request/comment, but it's kind of hard to see what you're talking about for back motion when you're wearing a hoodie. if you have like an athletic wear shirt or something it might help make it more clear. thanks for the content!

[@taigndrums5465]

Awesome dude, great content

[@jarrahdrum]

Excellent advice. Thank you

[@TheStudioDrummer]

Thanks again, if you do another of this type, please set the cam so we can see your foot technique.

[@josht1901]

Awesome explanation on throne vertical placement, but what about horizontal? Namely, positioning of knee relative to heel. Everyone has different leg length setups, so not sure if there are any consistent things we all should look out for in that area

[@SaketRao_drums]

Great video series! But, I would also love to know about problems arising on the cervical spine while drumming for long hours.. :)

[@ahmadrafiyuddinmohamed2372]

Hi, great content. Does this approach applies to sitting on say a cajon with extension bass drum paddle? Tq

[@EnricoGarciaDrums]

Great video!!! Thanks!!! Would you be able to explain what the best snare drum position is (height, angle, distance, Match grip, traditional grip)???

[@RyanAlexanderBloom]

Wow, a drumming anatomy and ergonomics video that I actually can't find much wrong with! Very nice. I agree with all your major points. I will say that playing heel-up with just an ankle motion is called a floating stroke. It is a type of heel-up but it has its own name. That's literally the only criticism I could think of. Good work.

[@brandondrummechanics]

Thanks for taking time to review each of my videos. I am formally educated as a biomechanics and bio-motor specialist. It is a pleasure to be able to apply my background to helping support the drum community.

[@RyanAlexanderBloom]

Drum Mechanics - Brandon Green Cool, I would gladly watch any other videos like this on range of motion or skeletal alignment and drumming. I'm formally educated in percussion and I teach lessons and write educational books. I came to these same conclusions through 20+ years of practical application and study so it's nice to see it validated through another avenue. My biggest irritation is watching other drummers twist and contort their spines to reach illogically placed second or even third floor toms and associated cymbals around behind their backs. If you're looking for inspiration for another vid, I suggest talking about spinal health and axial twisting, now that you've covered throne height and hip/lumbar flexion vs extension.

[@brandondrummechanics]

Thanks for your comment. Irrationally placed floor instruments (at least based off of what active range of motion will allow for) is something I plan on making on a video on asap.

[@johnmyers9493]

Can you suggest which weight lifting exercises in the gym would be ideal for being in top shape for a drummer? I imagine lighter and higher reps , but which exact moves?

[@PLDrums1]

Just stumbled on these videos. Fantastic information, Brandon! I'm very curious regarding your opinion on the Ahead Spinal-G thrones! Beneficial, or gimmicky?

[@chicharones9640]

If you do more of these please wear something other than black it’s hard to see and no hoodie it hides your back :) thank you for the videos

[@sallyhubert9027]

Could you recommend either heel up or down after a hip replacement, right leg please?

[@bartoszdolewski4915]

I love this kind of information. Also I'd ask about something. I started to play with heel-toe technique a lot. I've noticed that it almost has nothing to do with heels or toes - it's just a visual expression. It's more about first stroke from entire leg (I guess hip is involved) and the second stroke is kind of hitting using angle motion (to press down). And now is the thing - my shin muscle starts to be quite sore after pressing pedals using ankle motion and flexing my feet (like a ballerina dancer lol). Could you provide some exercise to improve my ankles, shin muscles and explain what kind of movement can be ok and what is wrong with heel-toe technique ?

[@sticksbass]

whats that pearl throne called w a cut out for the tail bone?

[@tjhannemann]

I've heard we shouldn't bury the beater with heel-up playing because all the rebound force then has nowhere to go but up into your leg, and it messes stuff up. What do you think about this?

[@dbmdrums1105]

I wish Phil Collins knew this stuff back in the day. 😅😅😅 He would have been playing all of those Genesis reunion shows

[@konstantinoskalais1733]

Hey man . I would like to ask you if there is a specific footboard angle you prefer so as to avoid pain in my knees ?

[@jaykrueger4599]

does throne height factor in pain in the side of the right knee? (kick drum leg) - or is it from being old?

[@AaronLevyDrums]

Got anything for shoulder pain? I ask because this has ZERO to do with cymbal heights. My cymbals are literally below my head level for my jazz kit but when i go to play my ride on the left (right handed) my shoulder tenses and hurts.

[@danusiabeatz]

Hi, I have a lot of pain in my right leg especially after a gig or practicing for 4hrs. I get a hug knot in my right side and I also have pain in my hip area on the right side.

[@arneolson7114]

Danusia Beatz that was me back in the day a knot right where the hip meets the leg. It came from slamming my foot down to be able to hear my kick. Changed to wood beaters and more of a floating ankle medium leg motion happened.In fact had to learn to play quiet sometimes with those beaters. I use cardboard pads in the center as well as sometimes wrapping the beater with cloth to get a softer sound even. It takes awhile and experimentation to hear what you want from your kicks. I felt limited with a felt beater.

[@mingmerci6103]

Hi, are you still accepting emails. I have a few questions relating to my shoulder. The British NHS physio therapist department isn't the best to the point even doctors are aware of the issue. So I was wondering if I could email you my playing style and my physical issues maybe you might have an idea on what it might be so I can get them to look in the right direction. Because of my age they think nothing is wrong even though I struggle moving one arm. They don't understand the damage drumming can cause. I hate to ask but this has been going on for 5 years and my health is getting worse. Thank you in advance

[@drummersbeat-escolatecnica2664]

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[@tonhueb]

hip flexion, dude!

[@ShawnJonesHellion]

Ow dude. The loud kick drum. Now i cant hear music anymore xD

[@chindo88]

I just want to know what the poor guy behind your drumset did.

[@stickwithit]

chindo88 😂😂😂

[@neon_one]

heh you're like "I want to talk about anatomy someone ask to me to make video" I was open to hearing about anatomy. I think people are getting more into learning to be human these days