Drums are Never Animated Correctly...Right? (part 9)

[@EMCproductions]

What animations should I review in the next episode?

[@Mapex_178]

Curious George Is the nicely animated episode I think u should check it out

[@toddm9910]

Sauerkraut solo in the music video from Albuquerque by Weird Al.

[@EthanMaphosa-g7j]

Fresh beat band of Spies

[@AndreasEldhSweden]

Mickey Mouse has a short drum solo in From all of us to all of you: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qom6mnamo9lsjac And there's also Dopey and Happy in The silly song: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJbbkoJ7ptp2j6s

[@meandjd]

Yellow submarine.

[@aampudia8]

in the Bluey episode, Bingo is supposed to be a 4 year old girl playing drums for the first time. you are correct

[@dominicamato679]

She celebrated her fifth birthday in the show, so she is five now 🎉

[@marykateharkreader4646]

Love the dedication to Heeler Family accuracy! 😃

[@revarinhighwind6720]

She kicked butt for a 4-5 year old on her first time!

[@roxassora2706]

​@@revarinhighwind6720I mean her dad does play instruments. And she has instrument toys, going off of memory.

[@WoodlandDrake]

considering Bluey's show runner is a drummer in every way, it better be 100% accurate

[@imaplaygames633]

The Steven Universe one just getting deleted from existence sent me, though the chapter still labels it as there.

[@dumbbumsc5329]

Oh I thought the scene just ended after the sticks hit together lmao

[@imaplaygames633]

@dumbbumsc5329 my best guess is it for claimed or struck by copyright

[@abbyh.3619]

I was so pumped to see SU and then it vanished. Just my luck lmao but at least bluey was in there

[@himura-miki]

If you take a look following Cyberpunk, you can at least see it got a D.

[@PazuzuDeamon4horsemen]

It because it has to be big woman which the song itself is copyright by a real bang. Disney didn't get the rights of the song when the episode aired. All Disney did was chance the words to the song.

[@NunofYerbizness]

Not to be the 🤓 but in the case of Steamboat Willie, this was in basically the beginning of synchronized sound and film, where the original method was to do the film first, and then create the soundtrack later. So technically, it's the recording of the drums and stuff that doesn't match with the animation, rather than the other way around.

[@Omlet221]

That’s crazy though the animators basically came up with that iconic melody and it was mostly the same between the pans and the teeth if they had no soundtrack to work off of

[@offbeatgaming777]

Whether that was nerdy or not, that’s actually really interesting to know, cool!

[@crazychris960]

@@Omlet221 This melody is mostly an old tune from the 1800's called Zip Coon / Turkey in the Straw, though the percussion arrangement is original to Steamboat Willie to my knowledge.

[@michealpersicko9531]

​@@Omlet221considering the song used is an old marching hymn that was well known at the time this steamboat Willie short was created kinda ruins that magic a bit. they didn't need the music to line up the animation cause they already knew the song before hand.

[@minhuang8848]

This pretty much still describes like 99 % of the industry, very very few movies or shows ever plan this out properly, and certainly nowhere near to the degree of a movie like Whiplash. Hence always the same weird club or dancing sequences where just about nobody seems to be dancing to the same tune - because nobody cares to provide any sort of consistent metronome. Understandable, even people who notice barely even care about it beyond, say, making a YT channel series about it (or something, dunno) - and there are very few who do in the first place. It's pretty much a waste of resources until we get some more sophisticated techniques to author video and audio at the same time... without having to meticulously plan out a sequence over the course of weeks or months.

[@asheronthedruid]

I'm not surprised that Bingo's drumming was animated correctly. They put a lot of care into their production, and the guy that voices the dad is a drummer himself. It wouldn't surprise me if they animated it first, then got him to record the audio for it.

[@ludamillion]

Not to mention the musical director for the show is S-Tier himself. My kids watch it in the car sometimes and it's honestly one of the only things they watch that I don't mind only hearing the audio. The sound design and scoring is so well done.

[@icemaster-]

​@@ludamillionYeah, bluey is such a great show! I'm 16 and I like it.

[@feastmode7931]

@icemaster- I'm 35 and learned about Bluey from my friends who have young kids; surprised how much I watch it now! Big time stress reliever imo

[@icemaster-]

@feastmode7931 It's just so deep for a preschool show.

[@SGresponse]

Let us sperg collectively over how Bluey is a show you wish you were able to watch in your preschool years when it would actually support our emotional development. As it stands watching it today at 30+ only makes one sad about how stifled that development still is.

[@Nails077]

So relieved you did not torture a real duck for that part.

[@Lycanthromancer1]

A goose would've been fine, though. Geese are evil.

[@wardrich]

4:10 The unhinged duck solo fucking sent me. Somehow the chaos of what was *actually* being played was even funnier than the original.

[@paulrozier1325]

7:30 Fermata on “Racist Banter” took me out

[@mrowlsss]

"God damnit"

[@evilbob840]

I don't read music, so I had to look up what a fermata was, but that is hilarious!

[@beljihnwahfl9903]

LMAO the cut from SU to cyberpunk is INSANE 14:22

[@you.exe6665]

But why tho...

[@sbemail]

​@@you.exe6665 SU probably got DMCA'd :/

[@anonymoussaid9970]

@@you.exe6665i figure they cut it out for copyright

[@beljihnwahfl9903]

@@you.exe6665 copyright probably, youtube gives you the option to cut out the copyrighted content instead of taking down the entire video

[@pixel-genius]

Guessing that was either editing out a copyright strike from yt or an editing mistake. But the idea he just saw the drums and decided "nope, moving on!" is hilarious!

[@mattavenson7542]

Steamboat Willie for the time it came out should be A. The frame rate limitations of the time probably were what made the snare part seem so off. Everything but the snare animation was actually really good and generally was in time for how slow the frame rate was.

[@Coolshows101]

See the highly up voted comment by NunofYerbizness They did the sound after the animation.

[@playmusic8056]

Yeah I donn't think he's being fair on the multi bounces. As long as they get the first strike timing correct, I think you can generously give them the double or triple bounce or whatever.

[@Jeff-ss6qt]

24FPS? As in, frames per second? Is the drummer The Flash?

[@mattavenson7542]

@@Jeff-ss6qt You do realize that it takes more than 1 frame to do each stroke, right? If you were to do each stroke as 2 frames and get maximum 12 strikes per second, which is straight 16ths at 180bpm which is quick but not even close to requiring superhuman speed to play. You need to line up the music to the animation and eliminate the phasing issues that come from music not being perfectly aligned to a grid, which if it's music worth listening to or if it's old, it won't be aligned to a grid.

[@digitaldeathsquid3448]

6:45 Her name is Bingo. Bluey is her older sister. They are cool. Bluey is basically the kids show every parent binge-watches after the kids have gone to sleep. It's actually brilliant. I cannot speak from experience as a parent, only as an uncle.

[@Ghi102]

She's also canonically 4 years old. So yeah, pretty amazing for her age if she could actually play halfway decently like that

[@ecstasycalculus]

I don't have any kids at all and I watch Bluey stoned all the time. The 7 minute episodes are great for a stoned attention span, and the minisodes even more so.

[@RedDogMamaHD]

I didn't know Bluey is a girl. All I know is that my Grandson/Granddaughter-in-law want to buy Bluey stuff for my Great-Grandson.

[@ecstasycalculus]

@ 5 by this episode, she had already celebrated her 5th birthday in a previous episode

[@joshuaharvey8046]

Have you seen the episode where Muffin steals a cop car. Definitely worth the Google.

[@BriggsMullen]

The Mickey one is really impressive also because it looks like it was animated at 12 fps, which doesn't allow for the most accurate rhythmic animation (unless the tempo happens to match that, which it very well might)

[@scottspeig]

In steamboat willie, the lenght of the duck's neck was to change the pitch. Similar to a slide whistle. Slightly disappointed you didn't elaborate on that part.

[@nikdoesstuff9338]

5:14 the intense focus radiating from this man with his chicken

[@danieloconnell695]

So glad to see the Bluey animators car as much as we expect they do. And I will confirm. there is no larger context outside of the 2 minute episode. Mom wants to get her violin lessons because she thinks she'd be good, and she proceeds to spend the entire time they are there playing e-drums and is pretty good for what we all assume is the first time picking up sticks (at least drum sticks, sticks from the yard and imagined to be drum sticks are a very real possibility in this universe).

[@Lycanthromancer1]

That's probably how Bingo *_thinks_* she sounds, but in reality it's just a bunch of random banging of sticks.

[@eeveeongirl]

​@@Lycanthromancer1 that's part of the magic of bluey, is that it's sometimes hard to distinguish real from imagination. However, she puts on the head phones that would let her hear the melody that she starts drumming with

[@s0david]

5:13 Only way you did this with a straight face was if this was take 48 and you were 100% done with this 30 minutes ago.

[@kolbystar]

Playing a triad with two mallet grip is my favorite part of percussion

[@user-ii8rq8zo2o]

Good times

[@Glavanovibes]

Um actually it’s a quartal voicing 🤓

[@TheInaneAsylum]

My favorite part was making fun of the trumpet section

[@Ruraldrums]

@@TheInaneAsylumfr

[@aaronadams7710]

Not as fun as quad stops with two mallet grip

[@TheSalPic]

I see Bingo Heeler and I click.

[@kamikeserpentail3778]

NGL, same.

[@harlows.journey]

same

[@uncolaman99]

He chose a good thumbnail for this video.

[@Pissnburg]

I saw Bingo Heeler, on the drums. That’s what I needed today

[@Deviantygr]

Yeah, seriously smart engagement farming, as I'd never heard of this guy's channel, but I saw Bingo drumming, viola, here I am!

[@MNSweet]

Bluey has a lot of Musically inclined team members. Even the voice of the father has a band back in Australia. But it's an ~adult~ *correction: grown-up* show pretending to be a kid's show. 100% worth a watch

[@danieloconnell695]

Custard! We been starting to listen to them as a supplement to the bluey albums in the car.

[@doomsdayrabbit4398]

It's a _family_ show. We need to start calling things correctly.

[@MNSweet]

@doomsdayrabbit4398 there is nothing "family show" about S2 EP26 SleepyTime. It was solely created to give me the feels... kids may giggle at Bingo swimming through space but I will always be there for you and warm you up like a sun watching over their planets... I'm not crying, you're crying!

[@SGresponse]

@@MNSweet You should probably listen to Gustav Holst. His "Planets" suite has a similar vibe.

[@clancykohl]

@@SGresponse the episode literally uses music from the Planets at one point, namely "Jupiter: bringer of jollity", with Jupiter fittingly representing the dad. Though they use another part of it when the episode reaches the sun, representing the mom.

[@Tera_B_Twilight]

Your "realistic" duck scream is the biggest laugh I've had all day! Thanks!

[@phlosen7854]

5:20 that serious focus on the sheet music while "torturing" a rubber duck was gold :)

[@HunterSentinel]

4:45 I legitimately like the fact th at you basically just assigned notes to each tooth… I was actually wondering howd you go about that, and I think it’s legit acceptable to do this instead of “what hitting teeth would actually sound like”…. But that’s your next project… make those scenes horrifying by making the sound what it would actually sound like.

[@ThePixelPolygon]

13:46 Girls Band Cry is 3DCG (and a very good one at that), so all the performances in the show are fully mocapped. Each member of the main cast is also a part of a real band that was formed at the same time this project started, and thus also lends their voices to their in-anime counterparts.

[@rakninja]

yea, prolly not going to get anything meaningful out of analyzing mocap for something like this. provided the mocap artist actually played the song, it's always going to be spot on.

[@StarryScribbles]

Context for the Bluey one, it was a short episode where Bluey and Chilli (her mum) were looking at a violin or something and Bingo, the younger sister, found a drumkit at the shop haha, It's cute cause it's a nod to how the dad's voice actor was a drummer in a band.

[@joshuaharvey8046]

When I seen the bluey episode my 3 year went to my drum kit and started to play. Screaming at the top of his lungs “I’m Bingo, I’m Bingo”.

[@SnorlaxWhisperer]

Ohh my god, never on my life would i have expected yo-kai watch to be anywhere near a channel like this. These games were a major part of my childhood so seeing this makes me so happy

[@CaloBrown]

That drum solo was sick, I'd hate to have to battle you as a boss, I'd have to use a gameshark to win.

[@HallyPorter]

Chicken portraying the duck in the WWAP, and the spocklassandos were interesting. Bluey sounded like a WWAP to begin with, they really nailed the beginning drummer sound; S Tier.

[@NautilusGuitars]

If you have kids and you're not watching Bluey with them, you're seriously missing out. It's so freaking wholesome and inspiring for both parents and kids. It teaches kids good character with compelling stories, and it gives parents a lot to think about and aspire to. Not only that, but the soundtrack is exceptionally good, and the animation is super meticulous and pushes boundaries without being abstract or too "artsy". I noticed how spot on all of the musical animations are. It's really incredible. Glad to see it here!

[@eeveeongirl]

Heck I don't even have kids yet and I've watched a ton after my nephews made me watch it with them while babysitting. It's a beautiful show that deserves all the praise it gets. Great for kids, amazing for parents, inspirational for soon to be parents

[@NautilusGuitars]

@eeveeongirl Couldn't agree more!

[@citizenkang01]

I know it isn’t animated. But Animal’s drum solo in Muppet Christmas Carol would be fun. Or any Animal drumming.

[@poppyfrancis7338]

I saw a clip from Yo-Kai Watch 3 in the intro and that single drum solo is why that particular boss is the best boss in the entire game to me, whether or not it's animated correctly. I can't think of any other game where you fight a guy playing an instrument where the fight stops to have a full minute long solo with a frickin shamisen accompaniment.

[@Noone-of-your-Business]

The real problem with instrument animation in the South Park clip is the bass, but I guess others have covered that. Nice work. Appreciate the detail.

[@shiningarmor2838]

13:14 F tier for realism, I don't know any drummers that would ever use Pearl branded cymbals.

[@TheVoitel]

Probably sponsored by Pearl or something. But these Cymbals look quite cheap, so I guess they got that at least.

[@brain_drops]

Something about the cyberpunk2077 clip that I love is they Mocap'd the hand positions for the guitarists as well. I had a friend reverse engineer the song on his own guitar just by watching the gameplay

[@J.PC.Designs]

This is actually how I learned to play Chippin' In, by watching the game. Very cool.

[@worldsheaviestjamband93]

It funny how more disturbed Mickey looks at 4:15 without the music.

[@kaitlyn__L]

Dude. I binged the 30-60 second videos when this was first a meme, like 5 years ago, but you've really gone above and beyond! Wow!

[@Kavukamari]

YO BINGO'S SHREDDING WTF

[@drummer8946]

Bro I think that rubber chicken needed to smoke a cigarette after that one. 😅

[@tso040]

The Maters tall tales episode 'Heavy Metal Mater' is so well done. I think you should review it for episode 10 cause I think it might be S tier👀

[@tenshio]

This is such a cool idea!! I love it!! So often I would watch cartoon characters (or video game characters) play an instrument and know 100% that what was being portrayed visually didn't match up with the sound. This scratches an itch that I've had for YEARS!!

[@beaudure01]

I always struggled getting enough dynamic contrast whenever the score asked me to play a duck.

[@Squrtie]

Not even rotoscoped, I think Girls Band Cry is mocapped

[@crithitjace]

A lot of 3D anime is now mocapped. Great animes with that include Bocchi the Rock, Girls Band Cry, and Bang Dream It's My Stage are all great.

[@kyegutierrez25]

This is an incredible idea. Love the content. Thank you for doing what I’ve always wanted to do 😂

[@PyroKidGamer]

10:45 u killed it! Better than the original

[@TsadiqP]

The quality of this video is off the charts. Really well done.

[@jesseglenn8803]

Wow man, excellent technique with the rubber chicken. I think the art of a good spockenspeil gliss has been lost over time.

[@ethandowler4669]

The Yo-Kai Watch one was absolutely insane. Def S tier for you!

[@lizardizzle]

Yo recreating that yokai one was so good. Great work!

[@alricfremanosrs1509]

While it would be an unreasonable amount of animation budget for a game, seeing that frog in a toupee drumming boss animated accurately would honestly go so hard. You made it look sick.

[@RoyBeerZ]

4:04 Skipping into this video with Mickey just torturing this poor duck without any context for almost half a minute ... oh boy

[@celisewillis]

I work in animation, and accuracy in the visuals basically only happens if we get time to do that research. Or someone on the crew happens to have first hand experience with that instrument/hobby. Many shows have tight schedule, and no extra time for polish. If i got that scene with the Family Guy marimba, i would have drawn those same 3 cycles, bc i have to get 10 more scenes done by EOD haha

[@brycedidericksen2677]

I've never seen someone so seriously play a blue chicken toy. You've got a like and subscribe from me.

[@kooooons]

One day some animators are gonna be like: you know what, forget animating what was actually played, let's rickroll that KZbin guy.

[@SimoneSaviolo]

Bluey being the GOAT once again. I expected it to be accurate, the quality of the animation is top-tier and it just aligns with every other metric. It's a great show, anybody who think they'll ever have anything to do with children should watch it over and over.

[@PopLadd]

I'd recommend it to anyone even if they don't want to have kids or deal with kids, it's just such a soul-cleansing show.

[@genepark9440]

I knew the rubber duck was coming, but it was waaay funnier than I could have ever imagined

[@david199086]

That dead serious straight face while playing the rubber chicken. 😂

[@Catbel]

I'm so glad I found this series of yours, I already binged watched it. I NEED MOAR

[@garretsimpson4924]

Bro almost everything about Bluey is S tier.

[@PeachyPixel28]

mf just pulls out a rubber chicken I'm losing in LMAO

[@norandomnumbers]

Definitely deserved a like with that one haha!

[@Omlet221]

Are you new around here? (That’s like his favorite instrument)

[@eaglescout1984]

Watch the Bluey episodes "Bike" and "Rain" which area awesome from the perspective of a music-lover.

[@Deviantygr]

...and also "Sleepytime". But be prepared for major feelz.

[@ryanlinke6162]

The anime "Given" would be great for this series. Would be interested to see how it stacks up.

[@joshsmith950]

The look of intense concentration when playing the rubber chicken sent me

[@abbeyv4148]

GOD I’m so impressed by you!!!! Also, no amount of likes can compensate you fairly for the amount of work that went into figuring all of this out! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@FunOAW]

The WWAP on the youkai fits the scene so much better though imo LMAO

[@GarrettPetersen]

Watching the Steamboat Willie part and thinking, "how's he going to attempt that on a real duck?"

[@kaylasilverstein4137]

This is completely off topic but I love how, from the Disney park live shows to the Disney Jr shows allllll the way back to that black and white cartoon in this vid, Mickey’s signature dance move is that BOOTY shake

[@SUBKOLOR]

laughing out loud literally. Love this series. Great job again.

[@ammonblueeyes7218]

Glad to see that you're still keeping this type of video up! I love these. I've got 2 for you. Any Rock Band/Guitar Hero game animated the drums almost perfectly. There are a ton of cuts, but I've seen that whenever I play. Understandably, when the developers had to do some adjustments to some of the songs not having a kit part but still having percussion (for example, Viva La Vida by Coldplay has percussion but not a kit also the beginning of Low Rider is cowbell and they animated it like it's a low tom but then it's accurate), the rhythms are right, but not the drum. Rock Band 3 in particular introduced the pro drums where you could hit cymbals and one of the stages even has a double kick. I'd recommend checking various Rock Band games since they all do it a bit differently, but there are a ton of songs that are probably copyrighted, so I don't know how you'd do it in a video. Long rant over, the other one that's probably an easy F is A Charlie Brown's Thanksgiving where Snoopy plays the snare near the end. It's a low frame rate, but it still is just nonsense.

[@Whainaut]

Dude you recreating the yokai one was fucking maniacal. I almost punched the wall

[@moyamedia9]

Check out "Pizzicato Pussycat," an old Looney Tunes short where the cat pretends to play piano but eventually finds his real talent on the drums.

[@MinionMI]

Holy smokes, found you in the wild! -Frag

[@Duecenage]

A thing I had learned in recent years, in some cases in animation they only give us a click track for us to make our movements match the tempo for music that may come later. I did get a rough midi track for one of my episodes, which helped us determine rough, but still inaccurate, hand placements(like air guitar, but with instruments in their hands). Also, we had alien instruments, so it ended up being whatever kinda made sense, movement wise. I love these episodes though!! They're always so great!

[@maxruggiero4338]

3:18 the fact that it says “tortured duck” as the instrument is so underrated

[@micahdavisonpercussion]

Not gonna lie, it was kinda refreshing to see you shred on some vibes. 😎

[@jabelsjabels]

since GBC is 3D animation, I assume they use mocap. How long did it take to learn that dang yo kai watch solo? That thing was nuts lol

[@bofaybaykweh]

Shoutout to kids on the slope for having the best musical animation I’ve ever seen

[@DarthBil1]

Let me guess: Steven Universe got copyright claimed or something?

[@scubor]

Steven universe drum analysis is now lost media

[@0cheeseburga]

Hitting the Chicken just right has got to be the best percussionist accomplishment I've ever seen.

[@showproVince]

Awesome job with that drum solo from Yo-Kai Watch 3!

[@jorrellds6520]

I am so happy you bought out the pans!!!

[@rodeointblud]

This is incredibly time consuming to produce. Great content!

[@bigthrobbingunicorn]

I laughed too hard at 1:28

[@bigthrobbingunicorn]

Nevermind the funniest part was 4:14

[@BlaireSnorlax]

​@@bigthrobbingunicorn Yeah, I went to the comments looking for a comment like your first one. I was about to be like, "What about 4:14?" But you beat me to it, lmao. I agree, prolly the funniest part of the video

[@dion8895]

Token's "God damn it" in the Faith +1 episode will never stop being funny :D

[@michaelhee-heeson4451]

An interesting piece of media that you should definitely feature in this series is a Warner Bros 1946 cartoon entitled “Book Revue” featuring a Gene Krupa traps solo.

[@isabeld.paredes4923]

One of my favorite 1940's Looney Tunes cartoons, especially (albeit unrelated) because of Daffy Duck's "version" of La Cucaracha. Gotta check the drumming footage next time I watch this short

[@isabeld.paredes4923]

I'm glad that this series is still around. Seeing the footage from the Mickey Mouse cartoon "Steamboat Willie" (the oldest ranked in the series), I remembered that I suggested previously (DANAC part 3) some animated shows from the 1960's to the 1980's in which there were cartoon bands just to see how they stacked up. Still interested, but now I'm adding a 1990's cartoon series: Sonic Underground, which has scenes with Sonic and his siblings, Manic and Sonia, in a pop band (Manic played the drums)

[@ser_igel]

16:33 AYOOO that's my video :3 i recognize the dark lettering tattoo by demonland on the left hand

[@amuro9624]

You should have found an actual duck to capture the true authenticity of that magnificent musical instrument

[@pdonettes]

where have you been? I love your videos, and I don't even play percussion anymore. I love how you busted out the pots and pans for steamboat willy!

[@Napalm30308]

As a newcomer to this series, I'm supremely happy to see Kids on the Slope not once, but twice in S tier

[@amg0534]

Good morning, great video. There’s a scene in cars 3 where there at a restaurant and there’s a scene where someone is playing drums and it looked accurate

[@PopFictionVideos]

You are amazing and deserving of a like and follow!

[@pevvyndrake]

Steamboat willie proved its timelessness here, your renditions sounded awesome on both counts

[@spectre2575]

The Family Guy scene being lazily animated kind of fits with the gag

[@nellAx19]

5:40 can't wait to see this technique appear in future WGI or DCI shows.

[@Helping_hand224]

"Invent the nonuple stroke, then you kinda just go up the drums while doing them" - The Drum Tech

[@mikayla_collie]

i already thought this video was awesome, but then... 5:20 watching you play a squeegie chimken as if it were an 'actual' instrument, was the cherry on top. never mind that i don't really like cherries... 😅 awesome video!! :3

[@arthurrosensmith-gr5ji]

You are very s tier. Honestly i like the f tiers more to see your drumming

[@d500dev]

You gotta do Shellbeat from My Singing Monsters

[@nicholasscott3287]

Going straight from Bluey to South Park now has me womdering how Bluey and the South Park kids would react to meeting each other

[@saboo480]

This is highest effort tier list video I've ever seen.

[@scarhz]

the rubber chicken bit makes me smile, gj

[@mondospark]

Love this series