Dual Y Axis How To | Plus Squaring

The relays are actually wired NC not NO. They open momentarily once one side hits the switch, the waits for the other side. This all happens very fast.
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[@JeredAdams]

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[@dencio1976]

This is a great idea. I have actually come up with an idea something similar to this, but instead of using PLC, I'm using an AND gate. Already drew it in simulation and works good.

[@dencio1976]

Once both switches are hit, both motors are powered back on with probably a delay of less than half a second. Or depends on how fast the relay can switch is the actual delay.

[@KW-ei3pi]

Amazing control box. I will be exploring your channel further as I would like to build a CNC Plasma Table. Thanks

[@JeredAdams]

Thank You!

[@jonassantos4763]

Inspirado na sua ideia, fiz o mesmo sistema utilizando arduino e funcionou muito bem pra mim.

[@JeredAdams]

👍

[@772777777777777]

Hard to follow without a schematic can you pls redo this video and update it..with scematic...to follow

[@adamvu119]

exact setup on my router. nice work

[@fabianotchee]

The Mach3 or 4 should frame the slave shafts using separate limit switches, but I use the mach3 and it's not doing this and for me to work I do it with a mechanical end at the other end, but it's not ideal, what you did is good, but expensive, it would be enough to use a few more relays instead of a PLC which is expensive and not everyone programs, So using more relays to close the contact when the shaft is on top of the end of stroke would be more feasible, but congratulations on the work and the solution

[@JeredAdams]

I don't think you can get this to work with just relays. I am going to come out with a product that is much cheaper than the PLC, but it will be a while before it is released. When I do come out with it, I will make a video to show it to people, and it will be for sale on my Etsy site.

[@briangaskell7595]

Hi I was thinking you could use a arduino to do this to

[@KyleFranciscoDuran]

Hi Jered, your cnc knowledge base is remarkable! I hope you don’t mind a troubleshooting question..😅 x-axis only moves one direction, software shows the axis moving both directions as expected. Hardware, replaced the step motor with known good, didn’t resolve. The hooked up my old controller board same issue. 😩 What else could it be ..?

[@JeredAdams]

If you switch the Y with the X, does the problem transfer to the Y? Also, what software are you using to interface the controller? Mach4?

[@KyleFranciscoDuran]

Thanks for getting back to me, merry Xmas. 🎄 I think I did that test but with the an axis, I will go conduct that again and let you know. And I’m using UGS. do u recommend Mach4.? I only have Mac @@JeredAdams

[@mattivirta]

can this squaring use arduino, not hobby user can buy owerprice expensive PLC, how this working, i have dual Y axis and need squaring system, ewery time zeroing axis this square both Y motor, but how if YL or YR lose some step, this happen sometime my machine. i worry lose step and not come good round etc parts. how wiring this square /sensor system ? sensor/relay/PLC or arduino to motor system.

[@JeredAdams]

You can use a micro controller of your choice to do the auto squaring. You just need to understand how to program it. As for the wiring, I am not really setup to show all that. If I draw a schematic, it would be for the plc setup I have.

[@davidmarrazzo9819]

Hey man great idea, I'm building a large format idex printer and I'm going to barrow this, do you mind sharing what you are using for the delay, I have an idea that might work with out a delay but need to draw it out to see if it will work, thanks

[@JeredAdams]

The delay is one of the many functions of the PLC.

[@772777777777777]

Anybody configure this in masso g3

[@user-oq9ml8jb1t]

Sir, I can see that you are an expert in Such Tech..! Can you help me with some of my doubts? 1) Can We do the same homing sequence you demonstrated here using Brains on Mach3? Can you explain? 2)After watching so many tutorials on YT, I am worried about the reliability and consistency of Mach3 as it is controlled by 5V signals, and hence there is a huge chance of EMI/RF interferance..! This may ruin the entire project by contaminating axis movements..! I am not confident to do proceed as this is the case, I wont be able to do longer projects with ease..! Is mach3 Reliable for longer projects ? Especially it is directly running from PC? I am using RNR Motion card which is a USB Based connection which worries me further I also have a parallel port card both of these are cheap.. other cnc controllers are expensive and inaccessible Can you demystify?

[@JeredAdams]

Mach3 is less reliable than Mach4, that being said, Mach3 will still work and I did start out with Mach3 and used it for years. I didn't add the auto squaring until after I upgraded to Mach4, but it will work with Mach3 as well. If you are able to, I recommend spending the money and upgrading to Mach4 and by an ethernet controller of some sort. I alway recommend CS Labs 4 axis controller. It is a higher end consumer grade controller designed to work with Mach4. As for building the unit to control the auto squaring, it would be the same for either Mach3 or 4. You need to make sure all the grounds of the 2 systems (cnc controller and auto squaring) are tied together. I use a PLC to do this currently. However, I have found that it is much cheaper to use an ESP32 (microprocessor) to accomplish the same as the PLC. Basically, you don't need Mach4 to do the auto squaring, and you might be able to configure Mach to do the auto squaring for you by using the 4th axis for the second Y axis. This is not an easy question to answer though a text, but yes, Mach3 will be enough to get any job done that you need.

[@user-oq9ml8jb1t]

Thank you for typing those long set of words for me..! Keep up Sir..!@@JeredAdams

[@makerdude]

Is anyone interested in buying a self squaring add-on for machines that use dm542t stepper drivers?

[@Motocue912]

Yes , what do u have?

[@TheNeilcoppley]

Yes I’m building a router and I using closed loop stepper drivers would this squaring setup work for me and if so how much do you want for this

[@JeredAdams]

I will reply to you in a video, and then go from there.

[@TheNeilcoppley]

Sounds good to me

[@TheNeilcoppley]

I’m using a ddcs3.1 controller

[@adamvu119]

you can use the same setup even on servo. but most servo controller will have input can be used for homing.

[@timklawinski4998]

How do I get in contact with you on a plc and program for squaring my cnc?

[@JeredAdams]

You can email me at [e-mail] My email is also at the bottom of the description in every video.

[@cam2line]

Do you have schematics

[@JeredAdams]

No. That would require me to do more work 😀

[@wernerschellekens2913]

Do you have a diagram or pseudocode of which you do in the PLC?

[@JeredAdams]

I could send the ladder logic to you in pdf format so you can see it.

[@wernerschellekens2913]

@@JeredAdams that would be very nice. I am trying to make my own setup with a esp mini

[@JeredAdams]

Have you watched this vid yet? Might be easier for you. kzbin.info/www/bejne/omPImKZ7eb16htE

[@wernerschellekens2913]

@@JeredAdams I just checked that, but I don't want reserve my 4th axis for something else. And an esp mini is not expensive at all

[@JeredAdams]

@@wernerschellekens2913 If you want me to send you the pdf with the ladder logic, you will have to email me. Address is in the description.

[@thecnnguy]

Hello Jered. I would like to contact you regarding the PLC.

[@JeredAdams]

My email is in the description at the bottom. Or, [e-mail]

[@mattivirta]

lot more interesting have video how make linuxcnc same, many use liuxcnc because not have windows and mach3 not pay stupid licence.

[@Festivejelly]

Oh man this would be so much more elegant if it could just be done in the firmware like how 3d printers level the daul Z axis using a probe. CNC firmware is still in the dark ages it seems. Having the firmware just read the endstops and adjust the motors would get rid of so much of that hardware.