DUMPSTER FIRE | Patriots Get Steam Rolled vs. Miami Dolphins In NFL Week 12 | Instant Reaction

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[@mrow7598]

MVP for the Phins was Vederian Lowe.... Got them so many yards.....

[@obarbeito]

We are upset mostly with the mediocre coaching. We didn't expect to win many games, but we expected the team to have some sort of identity, make less stupid mistakes every week, make some type of progress as the season goes by. Nothing. What we have is a mediocre Jason Garrett type of coach and a mediocre coaching staff and GM.

[@manchesterexplorer8519]

Mayo is soft; players don't fear nor respect him as the team has zero discipline. It's also a horrible decision to hire a coach with 0 experience to rebuild a horrible team.

[@jayy88]

Y’all overrate coaching. I bet you thought Dan Campbell and Nick Siriani are bad coaches. Siriani has a higher winning % than Bill, why because he has a lot of talent.

[@obarbeito]

@@jayy88 Dan Campbell was a good coach from the start, his team didn't win at 1st, yes the talent wasn't complete, but the team had an identity, played hard and got better every week. Siriani may not be a good coach, but he does make changes during the game and yes he has more talent, but he's more competent than Mayo. In the NFL coaching does matter, this is not MLB

[@redmonkey35L]

This game was just hard to watch. The penalties were so frustrating because they were incredibly avoidable

[@doubles7533]

That thumbnail 🤣

[@brucelindsay5751]

We should not have gotten our asses kicked like that!!

[@ginob615]

We don't have anyone to replace the coaches with honestly.

[@stevenearle5857]

If we had even a half capable O-line I could agree with this rant but we do not. The idea we can just run out and start signing top level linemen is absurd there are just none available right now and haven't been. What's out there are no better maybe even less capable so why in heaven should Kraft start throwing money at a lost cause? Somehow the term REBUILDING YEAR has never sunk in here. Geeeeeez!

[@brucelindsay5751]

I feel your pain but you’re jumping the gun here!! Division games are always the hardest and we are in a rebuilding phase. It’s called growing pains, relax and we will get better. No need to fire anybody!!

[@guillermomartin8248]

unfortunately we will have to endure Mayo and this front office for another year. No way Kraft will fire his prodigy pick this year and look foolish (even though he already does by anointing Mayo without at least interviewing candidates).

[@brucelee4357]

What happens if Mayo takes this team to the playoffs next year? I bet you’ll eat your words right?

[@BostonBob81]

Preach Allie !

[@hantonvaldez3292]

Allie Robert Kraft made huge mistake getting mayo as a head coach he screw himself

[@manchesterexplorer8519]

I'd bet that it was Kraft who wanted Mac Jones as well.

[@theblackflame4002]

Lowe needs to go. Covington needs to go and there is no reason to wait until the end of the year. The entire O-line is still awful Maye's turnovers-and this is the first time I'm saying this-are becoming an issue. But I'll still add that the fumble and int were under duress because every time you turn around here comes another unblocked rusher....

[@worldsgreatestdude1784]

Robert Kraft won’t make any changes because it would require going out of house for changes

[@arthur-ri4zo]

Stop complaining, we have the best punter in the league. He gets plenty of practice during the games and doesn't even have to show up for practice during the week to stay in shape. The Patriots can start by releasing the biggest stiff on the team. I'm tired of hearing Vederian Lowe called 2-5 times every game for penalties. If he knew his job. Maye would be a premier rookie qb. Then release big fat BOOTY and Polkadot. Two most useless receivers on the team. Then release the entire coaching staff. Useless and over paid. December 3, 2020: Earlier this fall, Florida prosecutors dropped charges against New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft for allegedly getting a rub-and-tug at the Orchids of Asia Day Spa in Jupiter, Florida. Wondering if he went back for some cheering up.

[@davidguzzetti6609]

This goes way beyond a rebuilding year. This team has no discipline. Just look at the penalties. This is a coaching problem.

[@jayy88]

You commit penalties when you lack talent. False starts and holding are a talent issue players cheating because they aren’t that good. Do you think they coach Hooper to lineup offside?

[@brucelee4357]

A new coach won’t fix this. It’s the players this dumbass thinks some new coach will magically make this team a playoff contender with the same roster lmao.

[@andyhoude4647]

i dunno what everyone upset about .. with this roster its amazing we have had any success at all

[@obarbeito]

We are upset mostly with the mediocre coaching. We didn't expect to win many games, but we expected the team to have some sort of identity, make less stupid mistakes every week, make some type of progress as the season goes by. Nothing. What we have is a mediocre Jason Garrett type of coach and a mediocre coaching staff and GM.

[@jayy88]

@@obarbeitowhat coach could win with this roster?

[@drew3354]

Mayo gotta go…

[@manchesterexplorer8519]

and he knows it.

[@theblackflame4002]

This is why even if it was for a sixth round pick they should have traded Jones. He's not worth resigning and he's going to walk for nothing

[@richardrobertsii4401]

We should've done more to keep Steve Belichick

[@jayy88]

Washingtons defense sucks they gave up 40 to Iowa.

[@phamos9710]

I agree totally 100%%!! U stay on point!!

[@Paul-717]

It's easy to score 4 TDs when you only need your first read on every play

[@phamos9710]

I still say there is a consistant problem with the O Line!! Smh...

[@corypalazzi8155]

We need to drag an edge rusher or Will Johnson with our first pick

[@corypalazzi8155]

Because the offensive tackle class blows.. And before you say that you love Will Cambell Ali he has sub 33 inch arms and is viewed as a guard by most nfl teams and I wouldn’t take a guard in the first round ah la Cole Strange lol

[@BillyBob-ti2fz]

Yeah let’s not give Drake Maye any help at all

[@corypalazzi8155]

@@BillyBob-ti2fz there are picks after the first round and free agency

[@damonlist6244]

The look on Allie's face during the live said it all

[@Gabe-ue8xs]

New England needs NEW LEADERSHIP

[@MuggleKarp]

This game should've been 50 to 3. Defense looked like a D3 school going against a pro playoff team. Maye's only issues are learning to protect the ball, tuck it better and faster and "when in doubt". Learn how to take a sack, but otherwise this kid looks really good, regardless of his age. -- We should also be going for more 4th downs, and frankly hail mary or tricky play just before halftime, you're down by a million points as maybe the worst team in the league, DO SOMETHING. We also need to throw downfield MORE where big catches and big penalties can happen in your favor, when the offensive "line" and TE's allow it, of course...

[@shonwest1539]

Through this WHOLE TIME in tha dumpster 😂

[@brucelindsay5751]

Peppers not playing REALLY makes a difference

[@Tylerjames-xt3md]

Covington gotta go

[@ziffiny]

This is a rebuild year. Wolfe nor Mayo knows what they have till they see what they have. Last year Colorado State only won 4 games this year they only lost 3 games. Firing coaches don't change the roster. This team exhausted their practice squad due to injuries on the Oline. Unlike prior seasons they been picking up new players on other people practice squad to give themselves depth. Mayo going to revamp this entire team post season but he stuck with what he has till then.

[@A_New_Wavy]

I hope your right

[@jayy88]

Exactly people forget Bill “the greatest coach ever” won 4 games last year with a healthy Barmore Bentley Peppers and Andrews. This roster blows

[@BillyBob-ti2fz]

@@jayy88it’s Belichick’s fault why this roster is so bad

[@jayy88]

@@BillyBob-ti2fz Right. Expecting the worst roster in the league to win games is pure delusion.

[@papifuego5273]

Firing coaches is just going to make things worse. Gotta keep working and look to next year a bit

[@johnhebert3855]

The worse receiving corps in the NFL and the worse offensive line in football...ALL football. Pat Mahomes would have a hard time winning with this bunch.

[@2112jp]

It’s sad that not so long ago that patriots were beating every team….guess it’ll one day happen to KC

[@cobra4642]

Now it's your time and I enjoy watching the Patriots get their ass kicked every Sunday.

[@manchesterexplorer8519]

@@cobra4642 As a Pats fan, I am actually finding this mess entertaining, as we have just had 20 years worth of winning, as being in a rebuilding process is also a form of entertainment. I'm 48, as I can vividly recall the pre-Brady era Patriots, as striking gold is rare. Look how long it took the Chiefs to win the trophy.

[@Paul-717]

Well we coulda had McDuffie but we traded him to the Chiefs for.......?????

[@BillyBob-ti2fz]

Cole strange smh

[@LindaMarino-rr9xt]

Fire Covington. How do you turn a top 10 Defense into a dumpster fire injuries ain't the problem either cause last year we had injuries and was still top 10

[@jayy88]

They were 15th in points allowed last year they’re like 18th this year. They also played 10 scrub QBs last year.

[@MuggleKarp]

​ @jayy88 Points Allowed is a terrible metric that rewards and punishes Defenses for Offense and Special Teams play. For average-per-play, looks like Pats were #1 vs the Run and #7 vs the Pass in 2023 on NFL site, and like Linda said, that's WITH a couple huge injuries early on. Zero excuse for this wet paper bag defense we have now, it's the DC, he's gotta go.

[@brucelee4357]

That defense fed on crappy teams it was never good. Judon, uche, barmore weren’t playing.

[@theblackflame4002]

I don't put all the blame on AVP. He did not pick this O-line and what can you do when they can't run block and they sure as hell can't pass block, really limits what can be done.

[@jayy88]

Exactly nobody could win with this talent. Look at McVay McDaniel and Shanahan they lose when guys like Nakua Tua and Deboo don’t play. The rams and dolphins were terrible when guys were hurt. The 49ers have a ton of injuries and suck this year.

[@phamos9710]

Amen, somebody needs to be FIRED!

[@jimbradley8823]

Horrendous! I’m NOT even SURPRISED!

[@polandfresh101]

Covington for sure needs to be fired. I’m not a fan of AVP either, but I’m not sure any high value OC would even want to come to New England. I would be shocked if Mayo was fired after one year. Kraft’s ego couldn’t take admitting he was wrong to hire him this early.

[@mikaylarivera1337]

ive been a big kyle dugger fan bc hes a dawg he will play thru injuries and he never complains and will play hard. but he doesn’t look right at all😭 and its sad bc we wasted prime years of dugger and jon jones or bently bc we made them carry this team and do more to keep this team relevant bc we couldn’t build a proper offense to help these guys out 💔

[@nicholasmechak4207]

I think the defense can get back on track with a few additions, but not this year. Nobody can win with that offensive line.

[@emanstatom]

I wasn’t surprised by this, because if you think about it the dolphins have way more “talent” than we do. It’s a rebuild year at the end of the day. We have new coaching a defensive coordinators first year and Jerod Mayo’s first year as well. We also have a rookie QB that doesn’t really have much to work with, especially with how bad our offensive line is as well. That’s why since he is in such constant duress there are turnovers that come into play. He ALWAYS has to play HERO football which means he tries to make plays no matter what the costs are, as I said before he doesn’t have MUCH to work with. So it’s not on him. We have a young WR core besides Bourne, but we have a bunch of WR3s at best. Douglas, Boutte have the potential to be a WR2. I feel like most of the play making ability has came from Hunter Henry and Austin Hooper. They are both ballers and I hope we re-sign Hoopet for next season. Gonzo is our number 1 lockdown corner, but when it comes to both of the “Jones’s” they are both a liability at this point. We also cannot create pressure on defense so it gives the opposing QB all the time in the world to make plays downfield which hurt our CBs and Safties. I also feel like Kyle Dugger is still hurt, he hasn’t been making plays. I think he should really take the time to heal before he starts to degress. I just hope that we address the OL situation this upcoming FA and get a LT and RT, hopefully Tee Higgins as well. If that’s the case and we hit that, we should go pass rusher in the first and then CB. Because if we draft a WR in the first, they’re going to have this “young” mentality where they aren’t disciplined.

[@quentongilliam5803]

It's not the coach! Our players are 💩

[@drew3354]

It’s the coaching staff

[@obarbeito]

Mayo is a mediocre Jason Garrett...

[@jayy88]

Finally another person who understands sports. Talent wins games not coaching

[@vbrown7801]

Come on lady. He didn’t almost complete 70%. Tua completed 72.5%. Details matter

[@AlvinButler-o7b]

Guys…it’s the FIRST year … let’s start talking firing in year 4 of a less than 500 season

[@thesoultruth]

When an offensive line is this pathetic, then in order to establish a running game, you need a fullback to lead the way. That strategy saved the Cowboys, when Aikman was a struggling QB. Then, they hired better OL and receivers. But...Maye stop trying to be Superman. When you have nothing, then do not throw the ball... take the sack. Are we paying these guys? There has to be internal discipline so severe to wake up these guys. Such as sitting out the first team on both offense and defense. Give Coach Mayo and his staff a Sunday sick day. Let the cheerleaders call the plays. Have a raffle and allow patrons from the stands to play.

[@Facelessmotivation1]

I agree people need to chill on to Drake ab turnovers and the int was tipped he said in his press conference it was tipped

[@elmerrobinson7126]

I been saying that something need 2 change when Jacoby was the quarter back

[@LindaMarino-rr9xt]

He has a TO problem. He's tryna do to much

[@manchesterexplorer8519]

He's 22 years old; just 4 years ago he was in high school. This team also stinks at the moment, so yes, he is trying hard as he's there best player, which is sad considering he's a 22-year-old rookie.

[@jayy88]

@@manchesterexplorer8519why don’t you give the rookie coaches the same grace?

[@bigbaby090989]

Kraft quit being cheap it’s the reason why we’re in this situation the first place

[@derekdumas7612]

Fire DC and OC. You should never look this bad on both sides of the ball.

[@SameerSultan-jd4ul]

The players are way too undisciplined, mayo has to step it up. Fire the DC and give mayo 1 more year.

[@theblackflame4002]

I'm not sure Mayo should get the one more year. He has nothing to add to help the other coaches and whatever he's selling-other than rah rah-they are not buying.

[@manchesterexplorer8519]

@@theblackflame4002 Mayo is not a leader.

[@jayy88]

@@manchesterexplorer8519he was the captain of a Super Bowl defense

[@manchesterexplorer8519]

@@jayy88 Yah Bill's defense.

[@jayy88]

@@manchesterexplorer8519 the same defense that had Justin Fields looking like a top 5 QB

[@paulmann5328]

I don't think alot of the fanbase understand coaching 😂😂yall really out here thinking discipline turns a trash player into a well rounded no penalty drawing player? If youre bad at you're job, your manager can't magically make you something you arent capable of 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@davidguzzetti6609]

Well, if they're bad at their job and they aren't improving, that's the coaches job to hold them accountable, and if they don't improve, they need to be replaced. Each week, there should be improvements in some fashion. It's not like they were playing the Lions,they were playing the Dolphins.

[@paulmann5328]

@davidguzzetti6609 replaced with who? And how do we know that they aren't being held accountable? Because they keep repeating the same mistakes? The players are bad, that's why they keep repeating the same mistakes. There's nothing he can do. There's only so much running up the hill you can make them do, it doesn't make them better. Your only option is to get rid of the players....IN FEBRUARY.

[@davidguzzetti6609]

@ These are fundamental mistakes they are making they just don’t give a crap no desire no self discipline. Really if you make it to the NFL you’re doing something right. How about benching them play the practice squad it can’t get any worse then it is. Mayo doesn’t have the qualities of a rebuild coach in fact there aren’t many coaches out there that can handle a rebuild. He’s a players coach which in itself isn’t bad but for a rebuild it’s disastrous.

[@polandfresh101]

Why bother having a coach then?

[@paulmann5328]

@@polandfresh101 if you were a coach who had the ability to collaborate with the GM, would you want to coach bad players or would you try to better the roster? The key is the players. THEY ARE BAD GUYS. Not all of them of course but too many at impactful positions that rookie coaching is not overcoming.

[@cyberzoom828]

The defense has gotten worse instead of better. The offense obviously the OLine we have talked about all year, they still suck, it is a rebuild but the foolish penalties, double digit penalties and unpreparedness starts with the coaching staff. They are all rookies too!!! D Cord & O Coordinator both are terrible. Have to take a serious look at off-season changes

[@hellothere6761]

We should’ve kept Bill smh

[@mrsnoopyaaaaa]

Robert Kraft has to stop being so cheap!!! clean house get a brand new scouting department pay the people people that know how to draft get a new general manager. That’s not an idiot like Elliot Wolf get some very experienced coaches or your gonna have another two or three win season again an empty stadium. Listen Robert you’re a business man, to make money you gotta spend money stop being cheap and open your damn wallet up

[@Natedogg1981]

100% agree with everything you said.

[@manchesterexplorer8519]

It's funny how everyone used to blame Bill for being cheap. I can also just about guarantee that it was Kraft who wanted Mac Jones, as he reminded him of Brady. Bill knew Mac sucked 6 games in and basically gave up on and sabotaged the team in revenge.

[@TheChamp601]

You don’t follow the offseason or football period do you

[@TheChamp601]

@@manchesterexplorer8519and your even dummer

[@mrow7598]

I only half believed that until another team signed a decent OT vet for 2.5M a year last week...

[@Nikhil-gq6wx]

The narrative for this team will switch fast when we face the colts and their horrible defense. jerod mayo is urban meyer 2.0 for ruining another generational qb

[@macbarrett4019]

Didn’t hear any blame pointed at Wolf in this video. Take a look at his draft and FA classes from this year and tell me he isn’t at fault. Only hit has been Drake and that was the only choice to make at 3. Management is the issue and we need better scouts and player development or my God the Patriots will be at the bottom of the barrel and wasting Drake’s talent for years to come.

[@paulonikit]

GM moves were horrible, we have no OL, Judon goes bye bye, wide receiver coach needs to be fired, together with defensive coordinator.

[@Kwonny-w7h]

MAYO SHOULD NOT BE FIRED. Remember when Dan Campell had that horrible year on his first year? Remember when Belicheck had a horrible first year? Don't worry, Mayo isn't the reason why we are doing bad. Yes, he could definitely do better, but he is not the main problem. But honestly, i would give Van Pelt another year, he had to work with a shitty offense (other than maye). But with covington, GET HIS ASS OUT OF NEW ENGLAND. These were about the same players as last year, and he isn't able to do anything with them.

[@Facelessmotivation1]

I agree I think the defense coordinator needs to be fired tho

[@manchesterexplorer8519]

@@Facelessmotivation1 Mayo is a defensive-minded head coach.

[@jayy88]

They don’t like mayo so they want him fired. The people who won’t shut up about firing him never wanted him in the 1st place. Even if the team was 6-6 they’d still want him fired. Like you said people laughed at Dan Campbell, now he has premiere talent all over the field and look he wins a lot. Look at Mike mcdaniels without Tua he’s 2-8 with him he’s 24-11

[@jayy88]

@@manchesterexplorer8519so was Bill and Tua is 7-0 vs him. Gave up 5 touchdowns to Lamar Jackson and got embarrassed by Justin Fields. Talent wins not coaching

[@MuggleKarp]

I think I agree with Kwonny here. When the announcer put up the starting records of the last 4 Pats HC's, it was really a good reminder that we need to slow down and breathe. Let's also remember that even at his very best BB made some idiotic decisions in games, so no one is perfect. 100% about the defense, we have some solid personnel, with worsening numbers, get Ludacris outta there asap. We finally have a QB with the skills to STEAL a close game, as long as the Defense shows up. We're leaving wins on the board with Covington.

[@Billfish57]

Wrong, it should have been worse. They got 15 as a gift at the end. It was worse than the score.

[@kenttalamo7225]

All three of them but they are not bad coaches. 😞

[@BigRel_on_VR]

Yes, jabrill peppers can play

[@jimbradley8823]

I don’t know what WE DO BEST!

[@josephbachota]

The coaching staff sucks

[@NB-cn9uk]

FRIES MAYOOOO I BEEN saying it From the being he’s trash

[@manchesterexplorer8519]

He's the perfect example of a DEI hire.

[@jayy88]

@@manchesterexplorer8519is that why they hired Macadoo and Springer and a wolf and AVP? You sound uneducated

[@manchesterexplorer8519]

@@jayy88 He's a DEI hire.

[@jayy88]

@ why because you say so? So if they hired Demico Ryans would you have said the same thing? What would be your excuse if they hired a white coach that was 3-9?

[@Freezageeza78]

Kraft isn’t going to change & start splashing the cash no coach stands a chance, BB was lucky enough to have Brady for the bulk of he’s tenure

[@Tsepete]

All coaches and GMs get lucky in the draft. The good ones capitalize on that luck. BB did that.

[@edbrit4893]

Back the train up, Allie!! Coaching changes will not address the primary issue, which is the worst talent in the AFC, maybe the league. It might cut the mental errors, but i doubt it. Most of their errors are by guys overwhelmed by greater talent of tge opponent.

[@asaadsarvis9977]

Patriots have been terrible since Tom left. This isn't on Mayo. Cut it out it's year one

[@tylerkittrell9569]

Trade Kyle Dugger. His effort is terrible every week

[@paulletendre425]

somebody got to go....

[@williegarforth7961]

Allie, love your expectations, but look at reality. 3 out of 5 of the O line were poached off of practice squads. The tackles had at least 4 false start penalties. Defenses that slow the Dolphins down take away the middle of the field and make Tua use more than 1 read.Covering Achane with a backer no way. The question becomes,will Bottom Line Bob every spend money on talent.

[@Gabe-ue8xs]

New England SUCKS LIKE COME ON MAN

[@GJohnson4]

do not tell my pookie drake maye to take a sack while down 30

[@Gabe-ue8xs]

FIRE THE COACH AND HIS TEAM A BUNCH OF LOSERS

[@jeffreygnoza7057]

The ol. SUCKS TO MANY STUPID PENALTIES

[@mattharding94]

Offense line is literally comprised of practice squad players and waiver wire claims what do you want AVP to do? He developed drake maye beautifully I would say coaches are safe and see what the gm does with the off season

[@HowardND9]

head coach has to go. hasnt shown an ounce of competence before, during, or after any of the games

[@jackthequarterback]

FIRE EVERYONE EXCEPT MAYE

[@LmFaO_BroJustStop]

All 3

[@jay9me]

Drake Maye needs to go. I am tired for his excuses and people making excuses for him.

[@manchesterexplorer8519]

🤣

[@jayy88]

I wouldn’t go that far but I agree the idea that you can only glaze him is going to get old quick.

[@brentwebster3999]

Tom Brady

[@mixmaster1825]

Clickbait ! Nobody wants to here this bs how bad we are we already know !

[@gsmlolyfe1308]

F burger

[@jimbradley8823]

Yes! Fire THEM ALL! They ARE ALL INCOMPETENT!

[@edbrit4893]

Step away, take some deep breaths, and look at who made all those penalties. It was guys with inferior talent. Coaching cant cover the lack of talent. Except for two or three players, and coaches, miami had better talent.

[@kenttalamo7225]

N F-

[@Bukk7k3]

D

[@jimbradley8823]

CMON! 10 penalties for 75 yards; THATS POOR COACHING; ALL of THEM NEED TO GO! This IS NOT PATRIOTS FOOTBALL

[@jayy88]

The ravens lead the nfl in penalties, are you going to fire Harbough

[@jimbradley8823]

This TEAM HAS NO HEART; SOFT !