Dune Imperium has ONE major problem . . . Dune Uprising | Review & Buyers Guide

[@sedraniM]

I don't get the point of this video. The entire statement is, that if you start with DI, you shouldn't buy DI & DI:U to begin with, but both are good and different enough to buy later on, if you love the game. Why does this need to be said? It's like saying, don't buy Brass Birmingham & Lancashire, but start with one. Or don't buy Wingspan and Wyrmspan, just start with one. Why would anyone buy both to start with?

[@Quackalope]

I think a lot of people get both to start with. I also think the experience of both is significantly different enough that groups will significantly prefer one core over another. I understand you not needing this review . . . but a lot of people seem to think it is worthwhile.

[@sedraniM]

@@Quackalope If you really buy both games without even having played one, nobody can help you.

[@Quackalope]

@@sedraniM . . . I don't know if you understand the core consumer in this hobby. How many games are on the shelf . . . and never played.

[@sedraniM]

@@Quackalope Well those people have a serious problem to work on.

[@MakeYourHeartBeat]

@@Quackalope You should make a "Don't be an absolute unsustainable consumer" video instead, or a "Don't buy games you don't play" video. The title was super missleading. It suggests that one Dune game is better than the other. If you love Dune Imperium and play it a lot, buying both makes a lot of sense. A title like " Beginner's Buyer Guide" would fit much better.

[@suanniiq]

Thanks for review and time putting this video together. I am going to pick up the base game, new at deck building / draft games (outside of MTG). Having LOTS of fun with Dominion and 7 Wonders, Dune will be a fun addition.

[@Quackalope]

Thank you so much for your kind words! I really appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment. Enjoy your journey into the Dune universe!

[@KDSBestGameDev]

My take is this: I own Dune Imperium + both expansions and we played it alot. Awesome game. Movie 2 came out we loved it made fun of the taxi easy to handle sandworms BUT Dune Uprising came out. I thought to myself I wait for Movie 3. I guess they will milk the cow again and make another base game. Why go with the middle child 😂. I have one rule: I must have played all my games at least once (a stopped session because I didn't like the game counts) before I buy a new game. And this should be common sense IMHO.❤

[@moo2k4]

I have Uprising in it's physical form and the original in digital, and I do prefer Uprising as a whole. The worms make combat more interesting. The spies add some added intrigue to the gameplay. The only reason I play the original more is because, well, pulling up a game no Steam is far easier than unboxing a game and setting it up on my table.

[@Quackalope]

Ah, the classic dilemma: epic gameplay vs. convenience. If only we could merge the two-like a hybrid worm that sets up your board while you enjoy a snack!

[@Alphan0va777]

Jesse...you know this is the game I love...great content as always!!!

[@Quackalope]

Love it too! Just remember, if you start seeing sandworms in your living room, it might be time to take a break from Dune! 😂

[@mordoten]

DI:U killed DI for my playgroup. Tighter, better and faster. Luckily we got to play loooots of DI before DI:U came out. Now we're awaiting bloodlines. This game (DI:U) is awesome!

[@Quackalope]

Sounds like DI:U really rocked your world! Glad to hear you’re loving it. Can’t wait to see how Bloodlines shakes things up next!

[@danieltaylor3755]

Liked this video. Make more of these comparo videos. Its what us new gamers need to see.

[@Quackalope]

Thank you so much for your kind words! I'm really glad you found the video helpful, and I’ll definitely keep the comparo content coming for all the new gamers out there!

[@sensational304]

great review...i picked DIU two months ago since i thought it made more sense to pick the latest one, since probably designers worked on correcting issues about the first DI on this new one....but not really strong reason. I definitely feel myself more backed up on my decision. Looking forward to your review on the expansions. Most probably i might buy bloodlines for what you just brought on this video.... what is that drink? Whisky? :D

[@Quackalope]

I really appreciate your kind words! It’s great to hear that my review helped validate your decision. Bloodlines is definitely worth considering, and I can't wait to dive into the expansions myself! The drink - is indeed whisky / bourbon. I think this was a pour of Markers mark 42.

[@EvinyxTheGamer]

Is there something different with the audio this video?

[@Quackalope]

Yes, I am using a Lav mic. Is it good?

[@EvinyxTheGamer]

@@Quackalope I'm not personally a fan, but after looking at past videos (Arcs), it looks like there is a lot less echo comparatively. For me, the audio feels very flat here though

[@Quackalope]

@@EvinyxTheGamer Good note! Thank you = the Lavs let me film in any location / angle (however, I need to find the right balance for them in the edit).

[@patriziopastore9895]

I have all Dune Imperium with expansion... still questioning if I need uprising. I understand that the new expansion works with both game.

[@Quackalope]

Totally get you! If you’re already all in on Dune Imperium, Uprising could be a fun addition. Just think about how often you get it to the table at the moment - do you need more variety or not?

[@afrose71]

If you don't get the first one and its expansions, you won't have all those leaders. Probably worth it to get both if you love the franchise.

[@Quackalope]

Totally! If you’re into the franchise, you gotta grab the first one and the expansions. More leaders, more fun, right? This is about where you start the journey :)

[@robertthurman9866]

Thanks, few reviewers have gone into this much depth. When asked which is the best, your explanation makes the confused looks on other reviewers understandable.

[@Quackalope]

Awesome to hear! I just try to break it down in a way that made sense to me . . . even keeping my long winded style :P Glad it helped!

[@MagdalenaMichowska]

excellent review! one of the few that gives base game Dune it's due.

[@Quackalope]

Thank you so much! I'm glad you enjoyed the review and found it helpful. Dune is such a fantastic game!

[@B00kMaidenMandy]

Which is the best for two (casual) players?

[@Quackalope]

Hey! For just two of you, I’d say go with Dune Imperium. It’s super fun and not too heavy, so you can chill and enjoy the game!

[@B00kMaidenMandy]

@Quackalope I was leaning that way, but others mentioned that it wasn't good for just 2 players and I didn't know if uprising might be better for that. Thank you so much! My husband and I love the Red Rising game, and now I'm on a mission to match all my favorite books with their games (if ones available) , and find other (non-book related) games we might enjoy together. I was excited to see Dune highly recommended! Imperium it is. Thanks again!

[@Quackalope]

@@B00kMaidenMandy Both games have week points with 2 players vs 3 and 4. The worker placement is just not as rewarding. However, I think DI is fun and solid for 2p and would be where I started.

[@wayfarervisual]

@@B00kMaidenMandy DI or DI:Uprising at two players asks you to introduce Fairly good AI opponents which are pretty easy and quick to operate (especially with the app). It will never be as crazy and intense as with four players but I still like it a lot. I think either box works just fine. Uprising isn’t that much more complex. Just a couple more little systems.

[@AndresCarrera]

Excellent message at the end

[@Quackalope]

Thanks! Just trying to ensure everyone knows that even in the sands of Dune, there are important lessons to be learned!

[@chickentruck75]

the choice tension in dune imperium is missing in uprising with the intro of spies.

[@Quackalope]

Totally get what you mean! The spies do shake things up a bit.

[@wayfarervisual]

@@chickentruck75 I agree, to an extent. But because the board spaces are more nuanced and resource “dry” affecting choices in how you’ll scrape together what you need, a strong enough sense of tension remains, I think anyway. It seems to play out, in my experience, that there is more chance of pulling off a keen strategy with spies, but also more chance others will do the same. I love both honestly. It’s all pizza, with different toppings. It just depends on how picky an eater one is. 😂 And perhaps I’m just not picky (or perhaps discerning enough 😬)

[@MarcosAugustoAqq]

I love seeing Kandel behind (and how you say “holds the candle” at 26:00) and it opens so many questions … this decision is so deep that we need to understand neuroscience before choosing between both, or are you just reading about mechanics of emotions to care less about same lame comments down here 🤯🤯🤯

[@Quackalope]

Haha, I guess we need a PhD in neuroscience just to pick a side in board games now! Who knew strategy could be so cerebral? Maybe we should start offering degrees in "Candle-Holding Decisions!"

[@MarcosAugustoAqq]

@ lol chatgpt you’re so funny

[@wayfarervisual]

I love Dune Imperium. Def top 10 games for me. I play mostly online now though, as Uprising just feels more intense and crazy at the table, in a good way, also less cluttered and more cohesive. For my group, we are all aware of the “swingyness”, so we see less of those big 5 point underdog wins. But I don’t feel one is necessarily better than the other, only different in tone and pace. I prefer Uprising, but perhaps because that’s what I played first and what I’m used to as a base experience, though I own it all. And really just allows “DUNE IMPERIUM” in general, more life and variety.

[@Quackalope]

Well said! It’s like comparing spice to spice-each has its own kick, but it’s all about how you season your gaming experience.

[@wayfarervisual]

Lol 😂 no shortage of dune puns. My basic thoughts about DI is,in essence: if you love it, get more. ALL OF IT!! If you haven’t played before, play either. And then GET ALL OF IT!! Win win. 😂

[@trojan403]

Fantastic video! Thanks :)

[@Quackalope]

I'm glad you enjoyed the video! If you have any thoughts on the game or want to share your experiences, feel free to drop them here!

[@trojan403]

@@Quackalope Yeah i've played the basegame once.. came second and couldn't help thinking about it afterwards. Then played my second game and got hammered lol. Always wondered what would be the best buy (versions) but my friend own the original and I think thats all we need for now. It's hard enough to get us together to play that. So yeah, if i was immortal, Uprising would the one I would get. But the original is good for now. Thanks for such a great in-depth video. I really enjoyed it. Keep it up!

[@Quackalope]

@@trojan403

[@trojan403]

@@Quackalope Yeah man, you shared some great thoughts. Keep it up!

[@JacobPorterLadder]

Great timing with the Finspan announcement. Inakways orefered Arnak over DI, but with all of these expansions then new versions ive been even more turned off from DI. Arnak i believe is doing a new expandalone, but apparently they all work together if you choose so thats fine with me assuming its done how i think

[@Quackalope]

Totally get where you're coming from! Sometimes too many expansions just make things messy. Arnak’s new stuff sounds cool, though! Let’s see how it all shakes out!

[@enr1l]

To me Dune Imperium and Uprising are both best games of all time, however I can't decide wich one i prefer.

[@Quackalope]

It's awesome to hear you enjoy both games so much! They each have their unique strengths, so it's tough to pick a favorite. What aspects do you love most about each one?

[@Walt80]

In the deck builder worker placement world in my opinion REVIVE beats them all. It's so under rated.

[@Quackalope]

Thank you for sharing your thoughts! It's always great to hear different opinions on games. REVIVE might just have to go on my list to check out!

[@Walt80]

@@Quackalope You will not regret it. Super great game The hype was killed due to distribution

[@Akula_Rauth]

I am addicted to Dune so I have them both

[@Quackalope]

That's awesome! Both games offer such unique experiences. Which one do you find yourself playing more often?

[@Akula_Rauth]

@ I combine them because the imperium uprising cards does more than the cards in the first game. And because it’s more easy to get victory points than in uprising

[@cryptorcd9352]

Man love the recent consistency in uploads and the style of these 'let's talk' videos! Hopefully algo picks them too ^^

[@Quackalope]

I really appreciate your support! It means a lot to know that you're enjoying the 'let's talk' style. Here’s to more great content ahead!

[@Corey_Adler]

You never said which friend of yours it was that let you borrow that copy of Dune Imperium: Uprising (who also played it with you last night), but I have no doubt that that guy is one ruggedly handsome, very intelligent, and incredibly humble person. You should really have that guy on your channel more often.

[@Quackalope]

Oh, you mean that guy? Yeah, he's basically a modern-day hero-saving the world one board game at a time!

[@wayfarervisual]

@@Corey_Adler classic.

[@thomhenne]

Dune is top2 for me!

[@Quackalope]

Top 2? So, what's the other game? Is it as epic as sandworms? Because that’s a tough competition!

[@thomhenne]

@ revive, Dune (imperium/uprising) hegemony and ark nova are my top 5

[@Quackalope]

@@thomhenne We should hang out XD

[@thomhenne]

@@Quackalope that would be great! Let me know when you are in Brasil 🤩

[@JeffCyber]

I wasn't going to buy the deluxe upgrades box... but, you know... now it's to help out a creator and not my addiction to hard plastic figures. Thanks for the review.

[@Quackalope]

Haha, I totally get it! Sometimes you just gotta treat yourself-and support creators while you're at it! Enjoy the upgrades!

[@JeffCyber]

@Quackalope you're on a roll lately man. Happy to see it!

[@Quackalope]

@@JeffCyber Doing the best I can!

[@euriconunes6217]

I appreciate the video review, I was excited to get myself a copy of Dune but I didn’t know which one was the right fit for me to start, so this video was really helpful giving me a better idea on what are differences between them.

[@Quackalope]

Awesome! Glad the vid helped you out. Dune's a wild ride, so you're in for some fun-hope you love it!

[@thegamesninja3119]

I am awaiting Quackspan, where one builds a game review channel run by rubber duckies.

[@Quackalope]

If your ducks have good taste in games, I can see them becoming the next big influencers in the board game community. Watch out, world!

[@thegamesninja3119]

@Quackalope time for SM Games to get Quacking and get on this game!

[@burgsrus]

I was really upset with Direwolf when they released Uprising so close to the Immortality expansion. I had just finished blinging out my Imperium game with all their expansions and they release this other game that seemed better. Had what I considered better mechanics, and I was not happy. I've not taken the Uprising plunge because of my fully blinged out game of Imperium and all the expansions. But at some point, I probably will, mainly because I know there is a way to bring over all those expansions.

[@Quackalope]

I totally understand your frustration! It's tough when a new release feels like it overshadows the game you’ve invested so much time and effort into. Hopefully, Uprising will offer some unique experiences that complement your fully blinged-out Imperium!

[@fan-i-am]

Uprising feels even TIGHTER if that makes sense. There's a bit less moving parts & spaces to be mindful of but trying to get the things u need feels just like a struggle to survive! And I guess that's the point ;)

[@monoludico6166]

Totally agree. Same frustration.

[@dariomunoz2212]

Excellent video. You did a great job explaining the core differences between the two games, providing a detalied perspective of the pros and cons of both. I think we need more analysis like this one where we discuss if one clicks better with you than the other instead of the neverending DI vs DIU debate which always ends in "this one or that one is better". For example, for me Dune Imperium fits better. Due to the sandworms mechanic, Dune Imperium Uprising feels different, it has a another type of tension, it has a more explosive arc, with big ups and downs. Having a clear winning strategy makes the game stops everytime someone is trying to pull a big worm move, because when that happens everybody have to drop their plans and try to stop that player, otherwise they can score a big chunk of VP, even 5VP in a single conflict which is half of the points you need to end the game. I find that very one dimensional and anticlimatic. Also, game length can vary a lot if someone uses the worms effectively. And due to the spies I find the less tighter experience of Dune Imperium Uprising less engaging, but I totally can see the other way around for someone else. Dune Imperium grants a kind of vibe that resonates more with me. You have to scratch point by point and one single VP feels like a victory. In comparison, winning VP on Dune Imperium Uprising doesn't feel as rewarding since there is a constant and always present threat of someone pocking a boatload of VPs in a single conflict resolution. And of course, expansions are a big deal when comparing both, since Dune Imperium Uprising works great alone but Dune Imperium needs at least Rise of Ix. Dune Imperium works better for me, yes, but for another group could be Dune Imperium Uprising, and that's an indication that both are good games.

[@Quackalope]

I really appreciate your thoughtful comment! It’s fantastic to see someone engage with the content so deeply. Your perspective on the mechanics and experience of both games adds so much value to the discussion!

[@mattforthelikes]

I am picking up Uprising next week after careful deliberation on which to get. I think another good reason to get Uprising is value (for a lesser boardgame hobbiest like me). Its more complete than DI and is more on par with DI+expansions from what i understand. Not having to commit to expansions on a probably better anyway better game makes it an easy sell for me. I can always buy the expansions later if i really want to!

[@Quackalope]

Thank you for sharing your thought process! It’s always great to hear how others decide on their game choices. I hope you have a fantastic time with Uprising!

[@GamerplayerWT]

I buy all of them. I’m a completist.

[@Quackalope]

That's dope! Gotta respect the completist life. Hope you’re ready for some epic Dune battles ahead!

[@TWoodard]

Dude! I saw you’ve got that JBP book on your table. Love seeing that by the game!

[@Quackalope]

Haha, can't play Dune without a little literary spice! Just trying to channel my inner sandworm while I strategize! In all honestly - 12 rules (or the original 42 rules) changed the direction of my life around 22-23.

[@TWoodard]

@ that’s amazing man! He really has done a lot of good. He helped me to see that confrontation isn’t a bad thing. I’m much better at being having difficult conversations because of his work. I’m loving the channel! All these games are right up my alley and I like your approach.

[@TheTabletopMisfits]

Damn your new studio looks sweet.

[@TheTabletopMisfits]

And I agree.. the expansions that came out before Uprising work best with the base game, and Bloodlines works better with Uprising.

[@Quackalope]

Thanks, dude! I’m loving the new look too. Can’t wait to share more content from here!

[@GameOnBoardGame]

Played Uprising for the first time last week and loved it! Our first experience of either version, but what you're saying about the swinginess already makes sense. We had a definite come-from-behind victory based on a couple big combats in the last 2 rounds. I don't see that as a problem personally, especially if it's something we can be aware of from the get-go as we continue to explore the game.

[@Quackalope]

Nice! Glad you had fun with it! Those last-minute wins can be a blast. Just roll with the swings and keep playing-it's all part of the game!

[@wholesomematt]

I’m here for the Rockspan review, wrong video i guess 😂 (love you quack!)

[@Quackalope]

Haha, no worries! The Rockspan will be here before you know it! Thanks for hanging out!

[@monoludico6166]

28:09 beautiful, I needed that. Thank you!

[@Quackalope]

Quack

[@concon424]

Not sure why wingspan spinoffs are getting so much hate despite wingspan being the best selling game of all time and likely the best gateway game of all time. There’s like 10000 dominion and catan spinoffs that don’t get any hate lol.

[@Quackalope]

Maybe it’s just that people are tired of birds in their games. After all, not everyone can appreciate the fine art of birdwatching! In all seriousness. I think it is partially due to the "new ness" of wingspan. It is one of the new generation of games - where monopoly, catan, etc are all a bit more ld school. I also think the names are cheesy and the gameplay is worse. I did not like wyrmspan much - compared to wingspan.

[@aeryellae5837]

Wingspan is not the best selling game of all time. Chess, checkers, and monopoly are likely the big three. In terms of hobby board games, Catan had sold over 40 million copies by 2022. Wingspan had sold 1.3 million by September 2021. I think Ticket to Ride has sold over 8 million, Dixit has sold over 6 million, Carcassonne has sold over 12 million, and Apples to Apples has sold over 15 million. Pandemic has sold over two million.