DUNE: Part Two (2024) Movie REACTION | First Time Watching | Movie Review

[@NikkiStevenReact]

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[@Husky92223]

Dune part 2 reaction! As it was foretold! The chosen ones finally released the video!!

[@palags4860]

Please try to check and maybe react "Mayor of Kingstown" you won't regret it. Its absolutely amazing

[@youvalentinart]

Thanks for the amazing reaction! I believe you can still watch the movie on a big screen. Regarding Paul's arc and Anakin's arc, they are different despite some similarities. Paul understood the way he was trying to avoid, but Anakin just followed it impulsively. For me, it makes Paul's journey more dramatic to some extent

[@ryanbvisuals]

You guys should start the show Shogun!

[@ryanbvisuals]

@marcs1951 dang it! Did he say why?

[@rasmuspedersen3563]

Guys dont forget the book is older than Star Wars... Everyone is comparing this to star wars when it should be opposite

[@killy_brystal]

rolled my eyes every time they brought it up 🙄

[@lynnjohanssen6552]

​@killy_brystal why roll your eyes, though? It's easy to see why people could and would draw parallels between this and Star Wars. Why allow yourself to be annoyed simply because not everyone knows what years the Dune books were written? That's a pretty lofty standard to hold people to, no?

[@ygkemosabi8280]

@@killy_brystal you dont think everyone spammed that to them after the first one and in the comments everytime they said it here... its obviously not that serious

[@killy_brystal]

@@lynnjohanssen6552 it is easy. i roll my eyes at the amount of times star wars was referenced during this. one, two, three times cool but after the seventh time, naturally i’m like “i get it🙄”. i, myself hold no standards on how people compare dune vs star wars; just simply voicing my annoyance with redundant references

[@lynnjohanssen6552]

@@killy_brystal Fair, but Star Wars is Steven's all time favorite movie franchise and he has always been very vocal about that. I didn't see anything wrong with the comparisons especially knowing how much Star Wars means to him.

[@jcs1025]

Very happy they used Princess Irulan to narrate the opening via her diary entries. In the books she is an important historian who documented the history of Muad’dib. Snippets from her writings were used as openings for chapters.

[@TheJordanK]

Same it was a fantastic way to deliver some exposition without it being detrimental

[@TheBillproject]

...from the book of muad'dib by Princess Irulan

[@immortaljanus]

Inspired by Anna Komnenos, princess of the Byzantine Empire, daughter of Emperor Alexios Komnenos. Her historical writings were preserved until modern day and contain the only physical description of the original Crusaders.

[@70briareos]

@@immortaljanus - I did not know that! :O

[@Urd-Vidan]

​@@immortaljanus oh, cool fact! Thanks!

[@Linda-zf2ps]

Timothee and Austin rehearsed that final fight scene so many times, that by the end of the shoot, they could perform it at full speed without even thinking about it. They've both said they were bruised black and blue from the violence of it...but both of them had this gleem in their eyes as they remembered something so masterful and awesome as that scene.

[@maggierappa417]

Which is amazing. I think people simultaneously don’t give actors enough credit while also overhyping the amount of work they put into a movie. I think it’s easy for actors to have stunt people do the bulk of stuff like fights and whatnot. Seeing actors really take the physicality aspect of characters seriously is really impressive to me. Also stuff like Austin mimicking Stellans accent so they seemed related also makes me happy. I think so many people behind the scenes add so much more to a movie that it’s so fun seeing actors take their craft seriously and really put their all into their work. There needs to a reason we pay popular actors so much money

[@JeshuaSquirrel]

When Jessica took the Water of Life, her fetus became completely aware. You can see her possess Jessica from time to time. Alia will be born with all the knowledge and power of a full Reverend Mother.

[@NikkiStevenReact]

that was wild, when her eyes were fully opened

[@fryaduck]

If you read the Lore of Dune you will find she is pre-cognitive.

[@noseminoru6975]

She didn't possess her !

[@NumberFiveYT]

Was she possessed though? I thought Jessica was just doing what the previous mothers expected her to do.

[@BlunderMunchkin]

What possession? You're seeing something that isn't there.

[@JeffreyWilliams-qv5kp]

I find it to be a good bit of writing, that Paul is known as "muad'dib" or "desert mouse" and rabban constantly refers to the fremen as rats.

[@NikkiStevenReact]

awww yes, that's a good catch

[@northwind2538]

Muad'dib also sounds similar to Mahdi when you say it out loud.

[@Roach_Dogg_JR]

@@northwind2538hmm, maybe that ha something to do with the BG religeon manipulation. I have no idea if that is anywhere in the lore but it would fit the idea of the BG myths being warped over thousands of years

[@derps0n839]

As written!

[@pseudonymousbeing987]

​@@Roach_Dogg_JR Nah it's moreso that in Arabic مُؤَدِّب (mu'addib) means teacher. The mouse teaches children the ways of the desert, and points the way north in their constellation.

[@samuraishamploo3343]

Fun fact: Timonthee Chalamet was a large wrestling fan as a child, and Dave Bautista was actually one of his favorite wrestlers to watch

[@ygkemosabi8280]

the batista orton h alliance was probly going strong lol

[@John_Locke_108]

He was a wrestler? I watched a lot of wrestling in the late 80's and don't recall seeing him.

[@mosesjones5376]

@@John_Locke_108 Look up Batista and you'll see him. He looked quite different.

[@XeonAlpha]

Villeneuve apparently told him he’s a great actor but needed to stop holding back. I guess he listened 😳

[@SonGoku-tp8gb]

@@John_Locke_108 My man said 80s... How old do you think Chalamet is lol? He was probably watching it early to mid 2000s. Also, Dave being in this shape makes me think he's not that old either. So my guess is he started wwe late '90s to early '00s.

[@danielbaldwin8220]

Paul wins that final fight with the same move that Gurney used to win their sparring match at the start of Part One.

[@sleepyalexa]

Oh wow, nice catch!

[@lanwyacaere9274]

And also similar technique Feyd used in the arena fight

[@halflucan]

"I HAVE YOU" "Yes my lord but you would've joined me in death"

[@csachleb]

ultimately he's toying with him; at that point Paul can literally see the future in real time

[@frmthefuture]

@@csachleb in the book, like with his fight with jamis, paul matches feyd move for move. but unlike his fight with jamis, paul's very much toying with feyd. so when everyone on the emperor's side began to talk trash, the fremen stayed quiet. they [the fremen] recognized what paul was doing and knew what was about to happen. mohiam realized it too late [paul calling feyd "cousin"] and couldn't warn the emperor in time. paul's killing blow was a very sudden action, it's meaning being he [paul] could've killed feyd at anytime he wanted. paul just wanted to prove a point to everyone watching, so there wouldn't be any doubt.

[@mawortz]

the black and white is because it was shot with infrared cameras. its supposed to represent the light spectrum of a "black star"

[@northwind2538]

Yeah it seems to me that scene's features go over peoples' heads often, as with how the characters themselves aren't wearing white makeup or anything, (even though the actors obviously are) but that's just genuinely what they'd look like under the light of a black sun. When they go back inside after that scene, they look normal.

[@earth2saka]

Here we go. Aragorn actually broke his toe so the scream was real.

[@David-cg1lh]

​@@earth2sakaand he really deflected that knife! And Leonardo dicaprio kept going when he cut his hand and heath ledger explosive boom boom hahaha.

[@paulkellerman2603]

Black sun.

[@Sif3r]

@@paulkellerman2603 yes, what do you think a star is? 😂

[@to0muchtoan]

Timothee is so freaking good. Paul's speech is CHILLING. Every. Time.

[@draum8103]

Yep. His 'transformation' when he takes the water of life is excellent...right after you can tell he's a changed person just by the way he looks and speaks during the 'I can see possible futures...' moment in the temple, and then he gets real badass after that.

[@Pink.andahalf]

When the movie ended, I leaned across the theater aisle to my mom and asked how she'd have felt if she'd had to listen to me and my brother's idiot thoughts through her pregnancies. She smacked my shoulder.

[@to0muchtoan]

At least she didn't go "SILENCE"

[@jitendrakulaste2365]

😂😂😂

[@WhoTFisthatguy]

🤣🤣

[@kaleiohulee6693]

Dune was one of the major inspirations for Lucas making Star Wars and after so many decades we finally have a director armed with the technology that could do it justice on film. Dune really is to Sci-fi what LotR is to fantasy.

[@NikkiStevenReact]

They’re building an amazing world in the big screen

[@lanzknecht8599]

Austin Butler really gave Feyd his very personal interpretation. The second kiss with Baron Vladimir was not scripted and he made the way Feyd spoke sound like his uncle, since the character had been raised by him.

[@webx135]

Yeah. There were a lot of cases where the crew would look at each other and be like "Holy shit he sounds like Stellan".

[@a.morphous66]

His accent gives a fun detail, immediately implying that he’s far more favored than Rabban who sounds very little like the Baron.

[@aryssobral]

I just dont like his personality, i mean hes supposed to be a badass psycho, no? And he just won that fight in the arena because the fighters were very drugged.

[@p.a.681]

@@aryssobral ??? The last fighter wasn't drugged. And whether he's a badass or not is up to the viewer's interpretation, but we can't deny that he's definitely a psycho.

[@aryssobral]

@@p.a.681 Dont get me wrong, movies awesome but i wanted more for Feyd. Like i said, would be cooler if he was a psycho badass, killing powerful fighters and not just 2 super duper drugged, and one less drugged.

[@axelord4ever]

I think Villeneuve pulled off what many considered an impossibility in Hollywood by not only adapting Herbert's books without losing the spirit of it, but hitting it out of the park! For such a long time, it was pretty much a truism that Dune could never be adapted to the silver screen successfully. I'm more happy about the movies getting the reception they have over the actual work (though, the works themselves are fantastic in and of themselves too, obviously), because it's both a breath of fresh air, and ostensibly a fat middle finger to the generational naysayers. Let's also recognize that that Dune I&II are far above the movie median of these past few years. Used to be we got true blockbusters multiple times a year, true classics that, ironically, allows this sort of YT content to flourish, but now we're pretty lucky if we get one true crowd pleaser a year.

[@Chris-tp2sc]

In regards to Chani, remember Paul said "She'll come to understand. I've seen it."

[@dustinwilson4815]

She has to. In the books, she stays supportive of Paul throughout the entire process. They've drastically altered her character in this version. She always knew ahead of time that Paul planned to marry Princess Irulan for political control, and that she would be the one he treated as his true wife. To avoid altering the future story too much, they'll have to get her back on board with Paul. This shouldn't be too hard, though, because Paul's choices are based on what he KNOWS will work, versus what he KNOWS will lead to disaster.

[@Novacification]

​@@dustinwilson4815 I think a lot of things like this was changed to underline the point that this isn't a hero's journey, in case the next movie wasn't greenlit. If everything goes to plan some people might think that Paul "winning" was supposed to be a happy ending, so adding these story points in as twists promotes a feeling of unease.

[@Chris-tp2sc]

@@dustinwilson4815 They needed to drastically alter her character. Chani barely exists in the first book besides being Paul's kissing pillow. In the movie, she actually is a character.

[@leapinggrotto4926]

​@Chris-tp2sc they also did this to Feyd too lol. But in the book Feyd was an arrogant bitch who fought with treachery (poison, trigger words, etc.) They made him way too bad ass in this movie😂

[@ayaretgonzalez27078]

Maybe she realized she’s pregnant and has to come back

[@meadmaker4525]

What they did with Chani at the end was NOT how it went down in the book. After killing Feyd-Rautha, Paul did indeed subjugate the emperor and claim his daughter's hand in a political move to seal his claim to the throne, but Paul made it very, very clear to Chani that the princess would lead a barren, isolated life, as he would never touch her. Chani would officially be known as a concubine, but in every way that matters, she is his wife, his only love, and the mother of his children. She understood this and remained at his side. I think what they did with Chani at the end of this movie was kind of a cliffhanger setup for a possible 3rd movie based on the next book, Dune Messiah. I grew up loving Star Wars the way you do. But when I first read Dune and found out George Lucas "borrowed" heavily from Dune for the creation of Star Wars, it really changed the way I see it. Dune is literally the grandfather of modern Sci-Fi.

[@SilentSooYun]

This. The changes were done for the sake of "modern audiences" who don't understand the way royal marriages work. In history, marriages were used as a means to seal agreements and solidify alliances: they had nothing to do with love. That's why Duke Leto never married Jessica: no matter how much he loved her, no matter that their child was legitimised as his heir, he was saving his hand to wed one of the Emperor's daughters to secure a clear path of ascension to the Imperial throne. It's a major reason why the Emperor feared Leto and his ambitions: he fully expected Leto to dethrone him

[@Tyrgalon]

@@SilentSooYun It also just makes Chani a better character Imo

[@ZemplinTemplar]

Even though it's one of the changes compared to the source material, I actually liked it, because it makes her a much less passive character. She also has some moments of doubt or skepticism in the first novel, but largelly keeps them to herself, and more of the same in the second novel, when she's a little more outspoken. I think Denis worried that if Chani was just a passive follower, a loyal yes-woman to Paul who objects to few things, it would be somewhat jarring if she became a bit more critical in the sequel. So he's setting the stage. I think Villeneuve also brought a good consitency to Chani's motivations: She wants the liberation of the Fremen and will never hesitate to fight for it, but she doesn't want it for the sake of the Fremen falling into the political machinations of others, and ultimately paying the price for the ambitions of others. She wants to be with Paul, but only if he is true to himself as a person, not as some would-be saviour or prophet. She fell in love with him because she found him sincere and principled, and interested in becoming a member of her people, but then he gradually betrayed that. Despite what he himself had feared and what he promised her. Yeah, "she'll turn around, she'll come back to me" and all that, but there is a tension between them, one that doesn't remove their love for each other, but shows that Paul's privileged background and giving in to fear and cynical motivations has driven a wedge between them. "Dune Messiah" has the same tension. Neither the end of Dune or the end of Dune Messiah are meant as happy endings, and Villeneuve clearly understands that. I don't know if Chani's still meant to be Dr. Kynes' daughter in the film series (Villeneuve apparently indicated 'yes'), but if she is, her motivations also make sense in the bigger picture. She cares for the Fremen, she cares for her homeworld, and making it a bit greener and livable in certain areas, but that deep respect for the planet and her people also makes her intensely skeptical of any claims someone from the outside will come and set everything right. She instead believes, like Dr. Kynes (at least most of the time) that the Fremen can achieve this themselves, even if it takes time and they have to avoid scrutiny with their efforts. The fact that she symbolically turns her back on the cheering crowds of Fedaykin soldiers boarding captured ships and going to war, and decides to wormride back into the desert, holding onto what makes a Fremen a Fremen, shows her heartbreak that people are abandoning what made them Fremen and turning into conquerors instead of stewards and defenders of their home planet.

[@kingscorpion7346]

yeah, I was a little disappointed about that.

[@galwitprifor001]

Space opera, yes, sci Fi, no. Frankenstein is the grandpappy of modern sci-fi. And Dune itself takes a lot of ideas from Foundation, but adds a lot to it.

[@SilverEye91]

@52:21 Steven's reaction here is the exact one I had during this movie. I was speechless and shaking. Paul is terrifying, and this movie affected me very deeply. It is a testament to the source material and how great Dennis translated it to the screen. The story is a warning. Paul is charismatic yes, but he is also a villain. A villain others helped create.

[@xavvi]

You were...shaking? Watching this movie?

[@huehuehuey]

@@xavvi Shitting and pissing even

[@saileshnaidu8102]

he nothing close to a villain. the guy is closer to a hero than a villain

[@ExistentiallyDreading]

​@@saileshnaidu8102 You understood nothing of the movie.

[@Tyrgalon]

@@saileshnaidu8102 You have seriously missunderstood the character of Paul.

[@GreenFalcon926]

When combined with Part 1.. Dune is one of the greatest pieces of science fiction ever put to film. Part 2 is a masterpiece. It's a shame you two didn't see this in IMAX, it was such an experience, but great to see your reaction.

[@1243fad]

I love how you guys and other reactors picked up on Paul’s walk and how it changes towards the end of the film. It’s such a subtle detail, but so important because it speaks to the confidence he’s gained from the knowledge he learned. Also, all the Anakin references are because Star Wars was literally inspired by DUNE

[@sindarion16]

"That should feel like a triumph, but feels the complete opposite." Oh buddy, you don't know anything yet.

[@Killerkwoi13]

I was gonna say the same, I think that reaction is the perfect way to feel after this movie because if you understood what was being conveyed, you’d realise Paul’s rise to power is not a heroic feel good story, but a giant tragedy

[@sindarion16]

@@Killerkwoi13 absolutely!

[@tiah1927]

@@Killerkwoi13I feel bad for Paul. He just wanted to honor his father and the woman he loved. I feel bad for Jessica, she’s a cog in the wheel of the BG, whose worst mistake was falling in love with the Duke…. I would never want to live in the Dune universe… and Denis sums it up in a line that Paul says at the beginning of the movie, “This world is beyond cruelty” … the whole Dune Universe is.

[@17thknight]

"A moment that should feel like a triumph... feels like the complete opposite." Bingo. Steven nailed the entire series with that sentence.

[@dustinwilson4815]

Sandworm riding 101: You use the hooks to lift the rigid outer plates and expose the tender flesh underneath. The worm instinctively rolls over to keep the exposed section out of the course, hot sand. The rider then anchors themselves and rides the worm. The worm stays on the surface to keep the "wounds" away from the sand. When the rider wants off, they simply remove the hooks, and the worm dives as the rider jumps off.

[@violetgreer2443]

Ok but how do 20 people with a raft get on and off the worm

[@dustinwilson4815]

@@violetgreer2443 The same way one person does it, Very carefully.

[@Blanche-ie5yy]

The 1980 version had much better worm capture and showed primary weirding device weapon

[@dongiovanni4331]

@@Blanche-ie5yy The weirding device was dumb. The Weirding Way is just space kung fu. How was that hard for the writers to incorporate? Could have saved time to un-rush the back half of the movie.

[@senpainoticeme9675]

@@dongiovanni4331 at the very least it gave us Sonic weaponry in the Dune games by Westwood. As to the topic on hand, Lynch most likely misunderstood what the "Voice" was supposed to be and mistakenly thought they were a kind of sonic amplification technology.

[@VanDavis]

This movie had you guys so speechless (understandably) that several of us were wondering how the reaction would turn out. 😂 You did a MASTERFUL job of cutting all this into an enjoyable watch. 🤘🏻

[@NikkiStevenReact]

thank you for that - it was a very challenging edit - everything in this movie felt important so it was hard to cut parts out. This movie certainty does leave you in awe.

[@Eternitycomplex]

Denis is such a gifted director. The idea of a mother and a fetus having full blown conversations is absurd and laughable. That choice in lesser hands would have been disastrous to the film. But in Denis' hands its profoundly unsettling, even frightening, and ultimately brilliant.

[@mickaelsflow6774]

In fairness, in the book, she gets born and it's a 3 year old behaving like a possessed, smart adult. She is the "Abomination". An error that shouldn't be created. It is thus easier to have this absurd and frightening conversations between a mother and a fetus. I wasn't expecting that and I loved it!

[@amrosoronar1853]

Frank Herbert wrote this book as a warning against belief in a false messiah or prophet. He was so mad people misunderstood the intent of the first book (Dune), reason why he wrote Dune Messiah.

[@performensch]

Yeah, but at least Nikki & Steven picked up on Paul not being the hero here. I saw many reactors completely miss that point and still trying to justify his actions. Now I understand why Herbert had to write Messiah and make it very obvious. :)

[@kitsune303]

"He's NOT the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy!"

[@faded1to3black]

And to make matters worse, they're now misunderstanding Messiah, assuming Paul is a 'villain', which also was not what Herbert was trying to argue. Charasmatic leaders can rally groups to do whatever they want, for better and worse. Leadership itself comes with weighing very hard decisions, often between "bad" and "worse". Would the Imperium have been better off in the long run if Paul died? Well.. No.

[@alexjohnson5677]

Finally, someone with a little nuance… far too many people in the comments saying “Messiah figure bad”, while completely missing the point that most of life is choices between hard options and harder options. Clearly, power can (and probably always will) be abused, but even those who can see all possible futures must still make some hard decisions that will be disagreed with.

[@Wurzelknecht]

Well if he didn't want Paul to be seen as a hero, maybe he shouldn't have written him as a hero. At no point in the original book was I inclined to believe that I'm not supposed to root for the guy who bravely leads the downtrodden natives of Arrakis against the obviously irredeemably villainous Harkonnen and the Emperor. The book ends with Paul heroically triumphing over the treacherous Feyd in a duel and takes over as new emperor. What were we supposed to think other than "yeah our guy won"?

[@JimFinley11]

Paul's arc is heartbreaking. Frank Herbert, the author of Dune, had things to say about cults of personality and charismatic leaders; Paul is not a hero at this point. Chani said it: the world is making choices for them. Paul saw this coming and didn't want it, but it was like a black hole pulling him in and changing him into a different person in spite of himself. The "water of life" transformed both Jessica and Paul into strangers to their original selves.

[@MrShagification]

It's the same for almost every character in the Dune series, but Paul's story is a depressing one. He's forced to become a being who can see everything. No surprises, nothing to ever look forward to, just a future that creates the present. And then he's forced to become a god and have his subjects carry out atrocities in his name whether he wills it or not. He is just as much a cog in the machine as everyone else. There's no good decisions he can make, they are already determined. His story is just depressing. From birth to death, he never really had a choice in anything.

[@jagdtony]

59:00 I’ve heard a lot of ppl say they hoped for a longer fight between Gurney and Rabban but remember House Atreides was known for having the finest fighters and legions in the entire Imperium. So an easy death was perfect. Which is also why the Harkonnens needed to employ the Sardaukar to take Arrakeen in part 1

[@mohammedashian8094]

Plus both josh brolin and Dave Batista agreed that it’s for the best. Brolin said that no country for old men did the same thing where you thought that Llewelyn Moss and Anton Chigurh were gonna meet and do an all out shootout but that didn’t happen because moss was killed by a random group of gangsters and Batista thought it would’ve been gratuitous and would take away from the overall story. Do I wish it was longer like others do? Yes but I understand why they didn’t do it

[@guybenson3528]

Yes, the fight between Rabban and Halleck was perfect. Rabban was a monster of a human, but Halleck was the War Master of House Atreides. No contest.

[@katemoon1594]

Frank Herbert did something really special when he created Dune. Paul's vision of an ocean on Arrakis gave me Dany in her house of the undying vision vibes.

[@JeshuaSquirrel]

I am in awe of the face acting of Timothee, Christopher, Florence, and Zandaya in the scene after the fight with Feyd. They didn't need to say anything, you can tell what they were thinking.

[@randomgeneratedname6035]

When chani leaves and he looks down and to gurney his face to me almost says that he knows that the great houses are going to say they wont honor his ascendancy, its almost likes hes waiting to be suprised and be wrong but he cant because hes already seen it happen

[@NikkiStevenReact]

yes!!! excellent all around.

[@ethanbrock5453]

Zendaya was the worst part of the movie

[@Rob_F8F]

​@@ethanbrock5453 In the movie, Chani represents the audience and its shock and horror that Paul has turned evil. He is no longer Fremen, but a God who will throw them across a thousand worlds to subdue and conquer them for him. Paul has become what he feared and what Chani has been warning of.

[@mrdavman13]

Yup the looks Irulan and the emperor have after they cut back from the scene of feyd laying dead, is amazing acting. And also film direction, because they ever so subtlety raised the camera. The difference in perspective shift and shadow play on their faces from when the camera was slightly above their faces vs below (as it was in the throne room for most of it and before the fight, giving a sense of power imbalances in the favor of the emperor and irulan) makes you feel like you’re looking DOWN on them as their eyes shift and their hearts drop, as they exhale and almost audibly swallow. It is amazing and so much is told with the most minor facial twinges and just moving the cameras position a bit, as Tim slowly limps forward with his OWN blood dripping off the emperors knife he pulled out. Pssssh I literally cannot 😅

[@mrdavman13]

It took them 40 days to film the sand worm riding scene! A lot of it was done practically. From giant models Tim could actually stand on and ride, to building that sand dune he was running along, and even dumping huge multiple pound sacks of real sand on Tim thru several giant industrial fans. Absolute dedication.

[@John_Locke_108]

Can't imagine it was easy to train the sand worms.

[@691ratatataa3]

Literally watched 5 different channels, ALL reacting to this movie, and still going😂never get tired of watching this movie.

[@radicaladz]

The real villain of the Dune saga: cults of personality and charismatic leadership.

[@Tman001100]

And how relatable it is now, especially in the atmosphere of U.S. politics right now lol.

[@devildante9]

That... has always been the case since humanity began, we just like to pretend we are smarter and don't fall for that. I'll even go a step further and say that humanity cannot function properly without a charismatic leader, we are hard wired by evolution and biology to do so, which is why the most charismatic people always wins, even if there is a more qualified one in the running (in an ideal situation, that person would be chosen to be number two). You can see how as soon as the charismatic leader dies everything falls apart, like the with alexander the great of attila the hun.

[@di3486]

Everyone falls for it. EVERYONE.

[@di3486]

@@Tman001100even more relatable if you come from an authoritarian country.

[@ahmedharris4746]

@@di3486 I’d say there’s a difference between authoritarian leaders drawing on bureaucratic structures to come to power and those who truly embody the will of a people and through their will power exert a force on history. I respect the the latter category far more than the first.

[@jackcrofts-mullin461]

Paul Atreides' arc in these films is EXACTLY how I envisioned Anakin Skywalker's turn to the dark side; a kid who started out with good intentions, but was ultimately consumed by temptation and his own goals and it led him down a terrible path. If Timothee was born earlier, he'd have been an amazing choice for Anakin in the prequels

[@MTech07]

Well George Lucas copied several ideas and stories from Dune. Even Paul’s children are twins…

[@JeffreyWilliams-qv5kp]

With hundreds or thousands of generations of genetic memory, personally, I believe Paul, the individual consciousness, became subsumed by thousands of years of bene geserit reverend mothers memories and personalities of his predecessors. His foresight shows him the path to take, and though the remnant of him knows it's wrong and against his wishes, it's unfortunately what the human species needs to have happen.

[@ravissary79]

​@@JeffreyWilliams-qv5kpapparently this is something that can and does happen in the books, but not to Paul or Jessica. They can control the overwhelming wave of past minds, but others who come after are touch and go on this. I'd explain, but it's a potential spoilers issue.

[@JeffreyWilliams-qv5kp]

@@ravissary79 lol That was just what I got from the movie. I was lucky to see both movies in a row online before I got lost down the rabbit hole of lore. I plan to read the books, and am having a great time with dune after being a Star wars fan for almost 30 years.

[@BlunderMunchkin]

Doesn't matter who they cast as Anakin. The script and directing sucked, so the end result would still have been crap.

[@kona883]

Paul didn’t need to interact with the Spice to have visions!! Remember he had visions on Caladan lots of them! Duncan dying many of Chani! And there was NO Spice on the planet!

[@Fidel_L.Bousquet1970]

Yes, he had prescient powers already. But the spice gives him a "boost", it's like he was on steroids but on a psychic level.

[@diacanthusreef3609]

Spice is a staple in the diet of many in the Dune universe, particularly amongst aristocractic classes. Following in that manner, Paul was already exposed to spice prior to his interactions with the Reverand Mother Gaius Mohiam (the one who administered the gom jabbar box test). Its a matter of spice magnitude which scales his visions, becoming most pronounced via consumption of the water of life.

[@p.a.681]

@@Fidel_L.Bousquet1970 Right, and the sandworm's poison ("water of life") helped boost and sharpen those abilities even further. I'm surprised that op didn't notice all that in the movies.

[@andrewwiggin]

So glad you mentioned Anakin and Khaleesi. Dune is so embedded in the sci Fi and fantasy genres that you can see, in each distinct genre, the influence of Frank Herbert's story.

[@OhnnyTsunami]

Stilgar being a solid hype man, respect🤙🏽 Lisan-Al Gaib! Also, I love the fact that the Fremen kicked the Harkons eyes with some dirt by burning their bodies, as they were not worth their body's water.

[@NikkiStevenReact]

he was awesome

[@Jason_xofilos]

As written.

[@Roach_Dogg_JR]

I also read that that is supposed to symbolize the beginning of the end of their culture. Paul has changed them so much that before they wouldn’t even dare shed a tear for their dead, now they will burn piles of bodies in the name of their mahdi.

[@mrdavman13]

@@Roach_Dogg_JRalso shows just how similar Paul and the fremen have become to the Harkonnens, as we saw the Atreides bodies burned at the beginning. Shows how charisma can change people

[@faded1to3black]

​@@Roach_Dogg_JRthey do change, but there's also the fact that they will now have full control over what happens on Arrakis, and will have access to worlds beyond it, full of water. The need to conserve water isn't as severe any more.

[@lorin3894]

I love how Paul says "I will love you as long as I breathe", and when he drinks the blue cool-aid he stops breathing for a minute.

[@technofilejr3401]

59:25, Two conversations from the book that are missing from this final scene. 1) Thufir Hawat Duke Leto’s Mentat advisor actually survived the Fall of House Atreides. The Harkonnens captured him and forced him to work for them. In secret despite being brutalized constantly, Thufir was still loyal to House Atreides. So he found out that Gurney was still alive and started feeding Gurney information to hurt the Harkonnens spice trade. In this final scene, Thufir lives long enough to stand at attention in front of Paul and address him as “My Duke”. It is a bittersweet moment for both of them as Thufir was like a grandfather to Paul. Thufir died happy to see Paul live to avenge his father and reestablish House Atreides. He had served Paul's grandfather Paulus Atreides and then his father Leto Atreides. So with his last breath Thufir let Paul know "I'm still your man now and for always". Denis Villanueve did film this final scene but left it on the cutting room floor. 2) Paul and Jessica letting Chani know that the marriage to Princess Irulan is merely political. They explain that Paul will never spend time with Irulan, show her any passion or sire children with her. The Imperial marriage is all for show. Paul basically marries Ireland then goes home to Chani. They never mistreat the Princess but everyone knows that she is Empress in name only. David Lynch the director of the 1984 version of Dune actually filmed both of these scenes and they can be found on KZbin.

[@malexander4094]

Fun fact about the infrared camera gladiator scene...The un-drugged man Feyd fights is played by the movie stunt coordinator. (He is also briefly seen in part one, playing the lieutenant leading the first defense against the Harkonnen night attack in the palace hall.)

[@Royal_Chief_Architect]

Chani being upset is in part about Heartbreak but it’s also about what he told her, that this path would lead to the death of billions across the galaxy. After taking the water, he became someone else than the man is father was proud of. It’s about prophecy now, which means destruction. He chooses the path made for him, not his own. He told her all of this so knowing that, how is she supposed to feel? I think it made since for her to leave, at least for the time being.

[@sillylittlesheepjax6009]

it was dumb scene more for teen girls that love zendaya and drama than anything else bec we know from books she is with him and gives him children

[@laurine____7543]

​@@sillylittlesheepjax6009 yeah in books she is a spinless woman write by à men who say yes to everything her hubsand ( who is a dictator did and tell) Sur this is so much better

[@neomimzyneomimzy5095]

The sound in the movie theater was the most amazing thing ever - thank you for waiting to react at home.

[@irishinnj72]

Austin Butler's portrayal as Feyd is the best yet.

[@NikkiStevenReact]

awesome character, that's for sure.

[@NumberFiveYT]

I wanted more of him tbh. Shame his character died in this movie.

[@georgeprchal3924]

You fought well Atreides.

[@TheJordanK]

Princess Irulan: In the shadows of Arrakis lie many secrets. But the darkest of them all may remain... the end of House Atreides. Honestly just beautiful writing.

[@zackarymccurren8643]

As an avid Dune book reader, it's awesome to live in a time where so many non book readers are absolutely loving the movies and the Dune universe, makes my heart happy.

[@chanhw]

The novel Dune was published in 1965. The movie Star Wars was released in 1977. It was “inspired” by the novel Dune, not the reverse.

[@lphaseonel]

I remember watching it in the theater and the audience was dead silent the entire film. No one cheered or clapped. Everyone was just in awe, one by the cinematography of the film and two by the start of the holy war.

[@radicaladz]

59:41 - one of the few instances where I feel the original nailed the dialogue slightly better. Paul : You have some idea of what I could do. [the Reverend Mother Mohiam growls at him] Don't try your powers on me. Try looking into that place where you dare not look.You'll find me there, staring back at you. Reverend Mother Mohiam : [Using the Voice] *You mustn't speak... * Paul : [Also using the Voice, which overpowers her] SILENCE! [she is knocked backward against several Guild Workers] Paul : I remember your gom jabbar, now you'll remember mine. I can kill with a word.

[@Gunnar001]

The new films are definitely great…but the original Lynch film had TONS of memorable badass dialogue.

[@PasserMontanus]

Lynch's Dune is not "the original". Herbert's book is.

[@radicaladz]

@@PasserMontanus- obviously. But that exchange does appear in the book.

[@jgrado3]

57:42 Not just “in the neck.” Remember the Gom Jabbar scene where the Reverend Mother held a poison needle to Paul’s neck? “An animal caught in a trap will chew through its own leg to escape.” Since the Baron always viewed the Fremen as diseased and he finds himself caught in a trap, he literally meets his end at the hand of the Atreides Gom Jabbar, with Paul being the poisoned needle.

[@DerHerrMitR]

What always fascinated me, and is overlooked in the movies because we don't have the technology: The worms and basically all of Arrakis smell like various forms/gradations of cinnamon wherever Spice is located/used. They use it to make fabrics, beverages, food, oil for lamps, so I'd imagine a constant smell of cinnamon everywhere you go. And the worms smell like Spice, but thousandfold. So the scene where multiple worms just charge at the emperor's troops...The place must smell like if the world was made entirely out of Big Red.

[@aeliusdawn]

They didnt really touch on it in the movie but Paul uses the voice when giving his speech to the fremen. We can hear a hint of it at 52:09, his tone shifts at the end. Also at 54:20

[@mjw1111]

You absolutely got the point of the ending. It is not a happy triumphant ending.

[@JeshuaSquirrel]

I am in awe of the face acting of Timothee, Christopher, Florence, and Zandaya in the scene after the fight with Feyd. They didn't need to say anything, you can tell what they were thinking. Also, "this is very Anakin". No need to apologize. You totally get it. That is Paul's arc. He's not the hero.

[@jcs1025]

I’m glad you commented on the short blade fighting technique. Because of the shields they had to develop a whole new way of close combat fighting, because you need to get in very close to be able to maneuver that blade in slowly to get it past the shield. It’s a very personal way to fight.

[@Cambria358]

Been watching you two for years when I see your videos pop up. I Really respect this reaction because you’re one of the few I’ve seen to understand the message. The “what should’ve been a triumph” is really the beginning of a very dark path for the “hero” of our story

[@Bleakmidwntr850]

“You die like an animal” when he killed Vladimir was really when he transformed,he’s now the Lisan Al-Gaib,it struck me,Tim was outstanding in this film

[@goblin2bis707]

You cannot use energy blasters against shields, called Holtzman field or generator, this lead to a huge explosion ! the shield is unstable under this kind of energy, this is why they use swords and knifes. That's in the book Dune serie.

[@draum8103]

Lol your faces around 12:10 when Jessica takes the water of life are hilarious 'Dude this shit is SO interesting' it was AMAZING to see this in IMAX, the speakers and sound made it seem like the theatre was shaking. When Paul and Chani kicked ass during the spice harvester attack it was SO freaking cool!!!

[@mattturner7531]

The opening fight scene with the little mindbending anti-gravity devices, the wormride scene, the black/white Harkonnen coliseum scene and the final battle scene - big time epicness from Denis.

[@scottedwards8895]

It's what Paul feared the most is the great war that would be waged and all the death that will follow in his name. He knew that after he drank of the water of life he couldn't stop it and he couldn't turn back.

[@emperorhakimiv7745]

If it's still available in theatres near you, do yourself a favour and go see it there. It's absolutely worth it.

[@neonoires]

The fight scene at the end was so good. I have been a fan of Timothée Chalamet since seeing him in Call ME By Your Name in 2017 at the Sundance Film Festival where I was working. I found out he was going to be in Dune and I hoped he would be able to pull it off since he had only been in small indies but after seeing him in The King, I was fully convinced. I think you guys would appreciate it. It's a Shakespeare adaptation of King Henry where he plays King Henry V. Despite the historical inaccuracies, it's still a cool movie and he was great in it.

[@uzik00sh65]

Paul isn’t at all like Anakin….Anakin is in all the ways like Paul tho 🤣🤷🏻‍♂️

[@mltorrefranca]

What I like about the natural sounds of that last duel, you don’t hear hardly any hint of blade to blade contact. We get evasions and weapon arm blocking/checking. So good.

[@jsmith1214]

In first part, Paul said to his mom that emperor has no son and that he plans to marry the princes. Thats why in this part Jessica says to him that he is blinded by love and that he should save his hand for best match.

[@gguddaye1]

1:04:03 great comparison. "Lead them to paradise" is basically the Dune version of "Burn them all"

[@bigbleum24]

The best line I’ve heard about Paul’s change after the worm poison is that he is the protagonist…but not the hero.

[@radicaladz]

One big tweak they made to Feyd-Rautha in this version is his twisted sense of honour, which he doesn't demonstrate in any other iterations - in the book and adaptations, he was prepared to use a hidden poisoned blade to kill Paul during their duel, and his gladiator matches always use drugged opponents - one of them being undrugged is treated much more as a sign of the uneasy nature of Feyd and the Baron's relationship in the book; Feyd is the Baron's favourite nephew, but both are constantly on the lookout for assassination attempts by the other.

[@JayAze]

“SILENCE!”

[@HydnellumSol]

The design of the guards in the arena Feyd yells to stay back look awesome!

[@salvadormartinez8577]

The downside of being a reactor is you miss movies the way they’re meant to be experienced. This was one of the most amazing theater experiences ever in IMAX. I hope you’re at least watching on a 50 inch TV or bigger.

[@NikkiStevenReact]

The upside is we get to watch lots of things we likely would never watch

[@salvadormartinez8577]

@@NikkiStevenReact I respect that! Love your channel

[@cpfishfan14]

in the books there is a longer gap between parts 1 and 2. Chani gave birth in between, and Paul's personality changes when his son is killed just before the final assault. Also Paul would never touch Irulan, because he knows that's what the Bene Geserit want. She is just married to him in name only.

[@beastlydevil777]

I just got finished watching Alex Hefner's reaction to this film and he was soo hyped! Now my favorite couple is doing it now!? Automatic click.

[@NikkiStevenReact]

lets go!!!!

[@Burke1O1]

bro im the exact same lets goooooo

[@masamune2984]

So glad to see one of my favorite reaction channels, “Reverand Mother and Steven React,” actually TOTALLY understand that this film is a tragedy, and a warning, while also getting the inspiration for Star Wars. So many other reactors miss all of that, and even cheer the ending 😬😳😅😊

[@dustinwilson4815]

When Jessica took the water of life, it awakened her previously limited bene gesserit abilities. The bene gesserit can channel their ancestor's past lives, tapping into their wisdom, and piecing together a limited prediction of the possible futures. For example, up to the moment she was conceived, Jessica will have access to the Baron Vladimir Harkkonen's memories. All his wisdom after that is out of her timeline. As she took the water of life, Jessica's unborn child, Alia, was also awakened to become self aware. Alia has all the powers of a bene gesserit witch in the womb. It stands to be noted that in the books, Jessica was forced into labor and gave birth to Alia on the spot. They seem to have decided to alter that premise in this version. The "abomination" the bene gesserit fear is that someone made to be a full reverend mother might lose control and become possessed by their past lives, channeling them fully. They train the acolytes to control their natures, which is tested by the gom jabbar (poisoned needle and pain box). Those who lack the ability to self-regulate are killed. Alia was never tested this way, so she will become the abomination they fear. Jessica was simply channeling her daughter in a few scenes, but had not lost control herself. Paul was the kwisatz haderach they predicted. As a man, he should have died like all the others that tried to take the water of life. However, they were trying to make a man who would be able to take it and live, as the books were adamantly clear that when a man took it successfully, he would be able to do it better than the women. More importantly, his mind would be able to go where no woman's could go. They left this out for "politically correct" reasons that infuriate me. It should be noted that, in the books and earlier movies, Paul never required any help from a woman to accomplish this. That was added out of a devotion to f3m1n1st ideology by the people making this movie. They couldn't just leave it alone. I saw it coming in the first movie when they left out the language about a man being able to do what no woman could. As the kwisatz haderach, Paul can see all potential futures (like Doctor Strange did in the Avengers movies to see the one way they might win). He calls it the golden path. Once he took the water, it changed him. He saw and knew the only future that would include his revenge and the survival of the house Atreides, and the freedom of the Fremen (albeit, far into the future). His actions following this were decisive, as it was necessary. Everyone who questions his choices does so only because they cannot fathom what truth he sees that they never could.

[@Tman001100]

Right, but Reverend Mothers, including Jessica have access to only their FEMALE ancestors...not the males. However, since her unborn daughter, Alia, was pre-born and shared Paul's genetics as a sibling, once she became affected by the Water of Life, she gained access to both female AND male ancestors and it might be through Alia and through that deference that Jessica learned of male parts of her bloodline and that she was the daughter of Baron Vladimir Harkonnen.

[@dustinwilson4815]

@@Tman001100 It was simpler than that. Jessica had her mother's memories, who no doubt knew the father, the Baron. She'd have known that way. Her mother was killed. The Baron is quite gay, and was manipulated by the bene gesserit as part of their breeding program. Alia is the first woman to be able to access her male ancestors. But when she channels them, they eventually start to take over, possessing her. Hence being the "abomination."

[@Tman001100]

@@dustinwilson4815 Wasn't Reverend Mother Gaius Helen Mohiam Jessica's mother? I mean Mohiam was killed but not until end of Dune: Messiah I think by Alia/Stilgar after Paul walked into the desert completely blind originally planning to die.

[@chasesmith7495]

pauls mother is the daughter of Vladimir harkonnen and the revrend mother of the emperor. thats why he calls feysd routha his cousin and the baronen his grnadpa.

[@chasesmith7495]

its also why when she tells paul " your father didnt believe in revenge " and paul says" well i do " that is his harkonnen side coming through

[@technofilejr3401]

@@chasesmith7495 Got to much Harkonnen in him.

[@cangaroojack]

Fun fact since you mentioned liking the black and white aspect of the arena scene! The planet orbits a black star, so how do we rapresent the light emitted from a black star? Well Dennis thought it would be cool if said light instead of giving things colours like our sun, it takes colours away! Plus all those scenes were filmed with an infrared cameras, which is why the blacks are sooo blacks and the skins have this waxy textures

[@ciregnosis123]

Paul's Knife move and or (Trick), in the fight with Fade Harkonen, was taught to him by his his Mom in Dune Part 1, in the beginning of that movie. Go back and watch it a couple of times. Man-Solo Out!

[@Endreseen]

Extremely impressed by your editing skills Steven. I appreciate the effort you put into your videos, and ofcourse the reaction itself. thanks to you both.

[@NikkiStevenReact]

Thank you Martin!! Really appreciate that.

[@rask004]

Thinking of what you two said about how the moment felt when the holy war began, how triumphant became sad, this could relate to the major themes of the original book, the dangers of faith, how religious power can affect people (leaders and followers), and how someone can be both hero and villain at once in these contexts.

[@D25Bev]

Really, it's the first time since i saw the LOTR films in cinema that I've felt so amazed & engrossed as i have been with the Dune films.

[@toddmarryatt443]

In the book this was an apparent assassination attempt but Feyd was using this to get the Baron's attention. Feyd was in some danger but the prisoner was conditioned to freeze when a certain word was used and then could be easily killed while looking dangerous.

[@thedarkknight2221]

This truly is a perfect film. The directing, writing, acting, set design, cinematography, soundtrack, EVERYTHING IS FLAWLESS! And Lady Margot Fenring says the best joke in the movie. Who WOULD’NT be sexually vulnerable at the mere sight of Léa Seydoux?!?!

[@di3486]

If Zendaya and her terrible character script weren’t there, it would be perfect.

[@thedarkknight2221]

@@di3486 oh yes, the one and only person that actually called bullshit on Paul being the messiah, who didn’t want her people to become religious fanatics that start a holy war, and who left Paul because she didn’t want to be a part of this new empire, is the “weakest” written character. Hell you sound like someone who ACTUALLY believes Paul is in fact THE ONE when Frank Herbert himself said the theme of the book is that it shows the dangers of false prophets. It’s why he wrote Dune Messiah in the first place.

[@di3486]

@@thedarkknight2221 The idea is that you root for Paul because that would show you that YOU can fall for charisma. Don’t think you are immune to it. Yes, it was a mistake to make Chani the skeptic one. It was a bad executed change.

[@thedarkknight2221]

@@di3486 well you’re in the very small minority because every critic and fan reaction to this movie has said that Chani was amazing.

[@EddieHenderson92]

Perfect? I wouldn't go that far but a good movie.

[@BarrettSendrowski]

YESS! Waited so long for this, I’m super excited to watch your reaction!

[@iamandynewton]

"silence" chills...... such an amazing acting job by Timothé !!

[@aswinosbalaji4224]

guys she is lea sedoux. she is the bond girl in spectre movie😅

[@Ryu62Alpha]

not black and white, it's infrared which makes it even cooler. How they created those shots was freaking amazing!!! Highly recommend the BTS for this shot

[@kzh2313]

U guys have to rewatch this in imax when they rerelease it otherwise you are doing a disservice to the movie

[@traydevon]

56:22 “This feels so big.” That’s what she said.

[@darthyves]

You need to check out "The King" came out in 2019. Timothée Chalamet killed it in the title role.. probably something to watch privately

[@jonathon9581]

The reason you see so many similarities is because Star Wars was inspired by Dune. Dune was written in the 60's and it was a massive inspiration to Star Wars and Star Trek. Dune is largely considered the birth of modern science fiction, and its influence can be seen in all the major sci-fi universes popular today. The Sarlak pit of star wars a nod to dune's sandworms among MANY other references. Frank Herbert was very deliberate that he wanted the Dune universe to feel real and not just be a bunch of cowboys with laser guns. The reason the armies fight with swords is because if a personal shield comes in contact with a laser weapon discharge, it creates a nuclear blast. That's why in the films laser weapons are not used in personal combat and they have to destroy shield generators before they fire a laser at a ship to destroy it. I HIGHLY recommend reading or listening to the audio books for Dune. It is hands down the most incredible sci fi series you will ever read, and even though the movies did an amazing job, I can't list here the amount of things the movies simply didn't have time to include.

[@Cadinho93]

Watching this reaction made me realize why Herbert was so explicit with Messiah, the message of the movie really flies over so many people's heads. Also, they don't show it in the movie, but Fremen Stietches have factories in them where they manufacture Stillsuits, Thumpers and all the other equipment they utilize. They're not a primitive people, they have advanced technology just like the rest of the universe.

[@khalduras784]

its kinda funny because the movie is trying to make the point come across clearer

[@NikkiStevenReact]

Did we get the message or did we miss it too? honestly curious

[@18shuh]

@@NikkiStevenReact I know there is a person that writes a similar comment under every reaction to this movie, regardless of whether you got it or not

[@Bluegreenagency]

@@NikkiStevenReact Simply put, the idea of Paul being a Messiah or anybody being a Messiah for the Fremen is purely an illusory, fake prophecy spread across the Fremen’s culture by the likes of Paul’s own mother. But witness how the Fremen and Stilgar are cursed by blind faith. That’s the message of Herbert’s ‘Dune: Messiah’. This might come across as a spoiler for those who haven’t read the book, but it really isn’t because it is really shown in the movie in clear dialogue.

[@Fritz0id]

@@18shuh LOL, yeah, i was just about to write that. But hey, that commenter clearly loves the books and all the power to them. Nikki & Steven, it was a wonderful reaction and there is no “right” way to experience anything.

[@Ugnutz]

The Cool thing about the Geidi Prime scenes is that Black Suns do exist they only emit Infrared light that why it looks black and white.

[@CoL_Drake]

Black and white as the subtitles said "under the black sun"

[@jmillzoryan9763]

After he drinks the water of life, there is a quick, and i mean quick shot of a knife in someone's belly. This represents that Paul has foreseen his bout with Feyd, and the only way to best him is getting stabbed, and when Feyd thinks he's won, use Feyds arrogance as his own weapon. Also, it has already been mentioned that he won the same way Gurney does in their training duel in Dune Part 1.

[@jasonhastings5607]

The announcer in the arena deserves a raise

[@simonaulman5058]

I agree - those are astonishing moments in the film.

[@fearthehoneybadger]

The reason they use knives is that they all have energy shields that will stop a fast-moving projecttile and, if an energy weapon is used, it will create a reaction that will kill both the shooter and the shielded fighter.

[@Kyoril]

The difference between Dad jokes and regular jokes are so obvious it's apperant.

[@FinCrow84]

This was a MUST see in theathre with at least IMAX. It was GRAND like you said. Also have to remember that originally in the book, Paul was not a hero.

[@chaost4544]

40:53 what's crazy about this scene is Steven's mind being blown Paul uncovering 92 warheads yet at the height of the Cold War, both the US and Soviet Union had over 20,000 nuclear weapons on both sides including the Soviet Union in the late 80's having close to 40,000. The amount of nuclear weapons the major powers had and still have is mindbogglingly scary.

[@josephnarvaez9507]

I think it's more because one family owned it.

[@johnmarkjames5447]

@@josephnarvaez9507Yes and no. For context, atomics are banned in Dune’s lore. The amount of effort and planning to amass 92 warheads that also probably take much more effort to produce for various reasons is what makes it mind blowing.

[@dustinwilson4815]

Paul is still himself, he's just playing the part he now knows he has to in order to preserve a future for himself and the Fremen. His actions are not that of an usurper, he's simply forging a path to the future that he desires and sees without flaw. Additionally, he's not like Anakin. Anakin was modeled after Paul's character, as George Lucas was inspired by Frank Herbert's Dune.