Dune SPOILER Review - Ending Explained 2021

[@amytaylor555]

Atreides were not hated, just the opposite. They are so well loved by many houses that the emperor finds them a threat.

[@ikuturso7570]

And it was made quite clear that it was really no surprise to Atreides that the "Dune-deal" was a trap.

[@freegadflyathome]

Both of these things were made clear in the movie. (?)

[@mangalegends]

@@freegadflyathome I actually didn't find it all that clear lol

[@gokhan4461]

@@mangalegends Leto literally says "the great houses look to us for leadership and this threatens the emperor"

[@mangalegends]

@@gokhan4461 I'll take your word for it lol. I think im starting to realize that with a lot of movies, I have trouble understanding the dialog and I'm not sure why. Sometimes the characters will say something and I feel as though I didn't hear it, or I kinda heard the phrase but I couldn't make out what was said. Almost like the character is mumbling, but not quite

[@dmfuerte]

Dang Grace I think you really missed the boat. Many prominent characters with dramatic roles were race bended. You're advocating a vision where people of color are always "good guys" that never die. Momoa was an amazing hero. But Isaac was incredible patriarch, Bautista was a menacing heel, Chang Chen was a sympathetic traitor. It's the opposite of tokenism. Many characters died because its a dramatic story, but they were significant and purposeful roles.

[@XManium]

I wish I could like this comment more than once.

[@rodtaylor5476]

It's crystal clear Grace is unfamiliar with the source material.

[@evgeniyaseminenko8594]

Exactly, respect is recognizing everyone is a complex person full of depth, with flaws and amazing qualities, regardless of race of skin colour.

[@DoroteoVilla]

@@rodtaylor5476 I think purposely so. She comes across like a bad faith, air-heady player.

[@stevesaturnation]

@@DoroteoVilla Yep, fairly clueless to a time 8000yrs from now where race is the least of the galaxy's problems. The Bene "Gezerette" with a hard G tells me she didn't do much homework.

[@danhogan1963]

They were taken out BECAUSE the Duke was a good leader. It’s very Ned Stark. Honorable man who people would follow, and therefore a threat.

[@quatzelkettel]

Exactly. And I thought the film got that point across rather well. Actually thought it was too explicit about this and a few other geo (astra?)-political relationships as well. Off topic, but really hoping to see a Navigator scene in Part 2.

[@theCloneman5]

One may say, Ned Stark is very Duke Leto I ;)

[@_cipriano2282]

Shaddam saw him as a threat and he used the harkkonens to get rid of them to not leave a trace in case they'd have to face a truthsayer.

[@ALBINISTAN]

And more practically, Duke Leto have gained such loyalty among his troops that the Atreides forces has grown much stronger than the Emperor's own, therefore he threatens the Emperor's power and he needs to be killed.

[@Kk-fj5tn]

Classic envy. I thought that was clear.

[@nav579]

Regarding Jamis, his visions were not of him training someone else. His visions were of a possible future where Jamis was a teacher to him. But it didn’t come to pass. This is part of the anti-savior theme. He could’ve made different decisions to make that future a reality, but the decisions he did make resulted in the death of someone who could’ve been a great friend. Messiahs, charismatic leaders, are just people, and they make decisions, which are often mistakes. This was the movie tapping into that message. I agree it wasn’t as clear as it could’ve been.

[@CinemaLegion]

haven't read the book or knew anything before, but that was perfectly clear to me at the end of the movie

[@tareksadek9544]

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@sayan2369]

@@CinemaLegion Great, cause it wasn't in the books.

[@Rize_Inn]

I was trying so hard to make sense of it that I started thinking he was going to bring him back to life in the next movie. 😄 You know, to really drive home the Messiah thing. 😄 Your answer makes a lot more sense though. Thanks.

[@Usthereout]

I feel like if you’re not a book reader that’s hard to understand. The message was only clear to me, when Duncan survived earlier, but he later on died so I kind of got confused

[@ghostridah]

As a person of color I never once thought of the people of color making sacrifices as some race thing. Why does it seem like white people are more upset about that trivial stuff than us?

[@shiapitt9490]

Because majority of black people aren't worried about this movie that's why the demographic for this movie is mainly white audience while african Americans are 6%.

[@stalematesibling]

wass gonna say the same thing. she was offended by yueh dying yet suggested gurney haleck should be a ninja. LMAO ike wtf?

[@moviegurl7420]

@@stalematesibling right. Make it make sense

[@dreadelectric7745]

Yeah, tell me about it........

[@baraka99]

Tell all your friends to go to cinema and support this masterpiece.

[@theinitiative3139]

Sorry, Grace. I did not get any white savior vibes from Dune Part One. I think “nobody seems to care” because frankly there wasn’t any of that in the movie. For the most part, only members of House of Atreides died for Paul. While some of the Fremen see him as a Messiah, many have their doubts (Chani doesn’t believe it herself). Other than Kynes, pretty much no Fremen die for him. And Paul killing one of the Fremen (Jamis) is not very white savior of him. Dune also goes against the white savior trope by having Paul learn from the Fremen rather than vice versa. He’s learning and bettering himself through their power and knowledge, while his presence only complicates their lives.

[@lindseym2134]

Perfectly said.

[@CajunJedi66]

Agreed

[@JimmyRussle]

She thinks Paul is a savior lol. Its crazy.....how bout you let the story playout Grace??? This is just part one.

[@PhiphthVyoo]

She can only view the world through a tiny lens, but at least ? she`s consistent.

[@arraikcruor6407]

@@PhiphthVyoo tiny lense of wokeism.

[@pyrobird734]

Grace the only racebended character in the movie is Liet-Kynes, who in the book was a white man, but here they made him a black woman. Read the books. Dr. Wellington Yueh is Asian, Duncan Idaho is Asian and Mediterranean, etc. The movie is very faithful to the books except for the character of Liet-Kynes and to some degree, Duncan. The Dune universe is based on many cultures and religions (especially from Asia).

[@TheOnlyNeptoon]

This

[@chubbyteddymonsterproducti1320]

Thank you!

[@dopus5873]

Ummm.... Chani is a little tanned redhead in the books

[@pyrobird734]

@@dopus5873 yes she is. I forgot to write that. The fremen in general are have olive skin/ are tanned.

[@dopus5873]

@@pyrobird734 and that she was 13 in the books and Paul was 15. They made them significantly older

[@hustler3of4culture3]

I think the fact that Paul kills a man is the climax you think doesn't exist. The whole movie, he is protected. But then everyone who protects Paul either dies or goes missing. Paul deciding to stand up for himself alone, THAT is the climax.

[@LAZISH]

Also, Paul as a human, duke's son dies and Kwisatz Haderach, a god-like freak:)))) is awaken.

[@americanoligarchy8825]

No its actually Paul becoming the tyrant he foresaw. That is the climax. Not that he killed someone lol.

[@hustler3of4culture3]

@@americanoligarchy8825 ok. I guess I missed the vision of being a tyrant. Well put.

[@ekkovisionlol]

Whoa whoa whoa what's with the capital 'that?'

[@hustler3of4culture3]

@@ekkovisionlol ?

[@emeraldo]

I hope Dune becomes a franchise. I love the lore and world building.

[@J_MM]

I hope so too, i feel like it should be 3 movies. This one wasn't enough.

[@what7530]

@@J_MM well there's 6 books. And considering he could only do HALF of the first book (which, let's be honest it's more like a 3rd of the first book), it won't be 3 movies to get the true complete story

[@hamhockbeans]

@@what7530 If Hollywood dishes out Transformers and the Fast and the Furious why not story that has direction from a novel. Those movies have 6 to 7 sequels.

[@shantoreywilkins651]

⁉️

[@richierich7229]

@@hamhockbeans Most people don't care about anything past Paul Atreides.

[@benjib0yyy]

Paul is literally Annakin Skywalker grace, but it’s done way better as far as the books are concerned.

[@stephaniebfi4297]

Especially since Lucas borrowed the story for Star Wars. Remember Dune came first.

[@ICU1337]

@@stephaniebfi4297 and John Carter of Mars. But the rip off from Dune is so obvious. I dont think Grace realizes this when she talks about Luke and Star Wars in comparison to Dune.

[@kluger2222]

Grace is so ignorant to do a research about the books

[@tareksadek9544]

@@kluger2222 She's not ignorant, she talks from the perspective of most of the public, who haven't and won't read the book. She's a movie and TV shows critic, not a book one.

[@briandavis7761]

The white savior bs need to stop. If an asian country made an Asian actor who saved Americans… nobody is going to say it’s Asian savior bs. Grace needs to get off hating white actors in a country who makes movies who have a majority of white people. It’s insulting. Every country makes moves based on their countries races. Only the US is stuck up on hating white people. It’s dumb and needs to stop.

[@TheBeastboy6]

Leto was a beloved leader by both his people and allies, which made him a threat to the Emperor. In the books the Sarduakar (Sar-du-kar) disguise themselves as Harkonnen. If the other houses knew of the emperor's involvement it would cause a revolt. They didn't really take the time to fully explain all the politics in this movie but that's a minor gripe in an otherwise awesome film.

[@quatzelkettel]

Was going to say the same...

[@jimbaker5110]

Very good to know. Did they disguise themselves as the Harkonnen in the movie?

[@TheBeastboy6]

@@jimbaker5110 No. It was clear who the Harkonnen soldiers were and who the Sarduakar were.

[@mrgermanvono35]

They might explain in part 2 more why it happened the way it happened. I. Not sure how but I imagine we the audience (regardless if you read the books) will be told the politics of it at some point in the movies

[@robjohnson339]

If memory serves, the emperor looked up to Leto and hated how he had to destroy him. He wasn’t only beloved by his allies, but even his enemies. I don’t remember which book, but it was one of Irulan’s notes.

[@dantae88]

“At its core Dune is a series about how charismatic leaders should come with a warning label: Caution may be hazardous to your health.” -Frank Herbert

[@dantae88]

Paul is prescient but how future vision works in Dune is he can see many possible futures, which change based on his choices. So he was seeing a future where he and Jamie became mentor-mentee. But Paul made other choices and he ends up choosing to kill Jamis.

[@drewa139]

Focusing in so deeply on what race characters are and if their parts of the story are fair or good enough is so cringe. Try to leave your PC lease at home and enjoy a movie!

[@sillygoober553]

@@drewa139 Spoken like a White Man huh Maybe in 2021, Blacks, Hispanics and Asians want proper representation? And for every POC Cast to be in a position of subordination? Why are surprised people are gonna bring this up?

[@AP-Design]

Well realized in the film, and I'm sure, the book. A great leader is also a great target.

[@what7530]

I don't get the idea that the Dr being Asian (who isn't even race bent, he's actually Asian in the books) is bad because there's "Asian hate" going on the world. Is that to say that if the character wasn't Asian only then could he be capable of betrayal? Did the character need to be white in order to have such a tragic story, because asian characters are forbidden from having that? And Josh Brolin's character should've been Asian because he was like a ninja, Isn't that contradictory? Ur saying that a character can be asian if stereotyped (ninja) but not treated as any other character and given humanity with a tragic story (the Dr.). Because the only people who see a problem are those who make it a problem and focus on identity politics instead of the character itself

[@kevinstfort]

Yeah. Weak commentary by her on this topic.

[@TalesHilaricki]

I love grace, but I *facepalm* when she said the josh brolin raceswap thing

[@Dave_L913]

You pretty much have to ignore EVERYTHING Grace says about race in any of her videos. This is the woman who praised the the Red Room in Black Widow for being racially diverse.

[@what7530]

@@Dave_L913 oh trust me I know she has horrible takes when it comes to identity politics. Especially when she flip flops and one minute, is team "dIvErSiTy" and the other minute, is more rational and saying "this should be more organic, and people shouldn't feel like they're being force fed". I mean she literally agreed that original characters should be made instead of race bending, but then complained that it was only minorities that died in The Suicide Suqad as if it should've been white people that died, not even realizing the setting was an island that would have nothing but minorities. Woman is in it for the clout and can't even keep it consistent

[@Uptown2525]

Well said.

[@hustler3of4culture3]

No. Paul doesn't see a determined future. The future is fluid. There was a future where he was friends with the man he had to kill. There was even a future where he kills Paul. And actually he does kill the innocent Paul and awakens the Paul that will be. The innocent Paul dies, and the fighter Paul comes alive

[@CASSIE_COLE]

That doesn't come across clear in the movie

[@chrisevans5256]

@@CASSIE_COLE It's only very indirectly referenced. In the novel, Paul describes it as being in a valley, and the edge he cannot see over is this confrontation with Jamis. When in the film, the voices tell him "rise" in that moment, they're not telling him to ascend to power but rather to rise up out of that valley. Once he's out of it, it's like he can see ahead to the various futures up to the next major uncertain barrier. Yes--not very clear at all.

[@Ma55ey]

I'll grant that this movie didn't stop to explain things that it might have helped viewers understand what was going on.. but then I think well, there is a part 2.. so that explanation and understanding what Paul is seeing might happen then.. seeing as he doesn't understand what it is he's seeing in this movie..

[@Symmz]

I think Oscar was very much Leto, he played the part beautifully.

[@Rip_Ripple]

Agreed. I saw it differently than Grace

[@mroctober3657]

Villeneuve always has a Leto in his movies.

[@damonmcdowelljr2782]

Hey Grace, that Jamis vision discrepancy is one of a few clues that Paul is only seeing possible futures. Hopefully they'll make that clearer in the next film.

[@Beatness121]

Yeah I feel like they really were unclear about the visions if you didn't read the book.

[@LuisG633]

@@Beatness121 But didn't Mohiam ask Paul in the beginning of the movie if his visions always came true and he said no. I thought that made it clear that they were only possible futures.

[@k1l158]

Granted I read the books so I already knew what was going on but I still felt like they made it clear enough in the film

[@zacpatsmith]

It is an interesting facet of the narrative, then, that Paul is able to benefit from people and their knowledge without actually needing them to be alive (or potentially ever end up actually meeting).

[@markvogel4341]

If only she had read the book this film was based on. Just-say'n (It's a beast of a book, but easy things are not worth much)

[@spqr0102]

Grace, it stuns me how determined you seem to be to create controversy with this movie over issues of race and diversity when you yourself admit that virtually no one else is. Its disappointing and sad, and it makes me wonder if you even remember how to simply enjoy a good story anymore. Oh well.

[@issakelly8071]

Because most reviewers I've read have a least a cursory knowledge of the original Dune books and understand that the "white savior" trope is practically a non issue in the overall story in the book. The movie itself has a scene where Paul understands the threat that the fanatical Fremen would pose on the known universe. I've read the books so I know what's to come. It irks me that Grace is trying to judge a story based on its first half. The full themes haven't emerged yet.

[@Massmilkyway]

Exactly, well said. This review was more like a personal crusade, a Butlerian Jihad, against the best epic Sci-Fi in many, many years. I don't think Grace is able to enjoy or understand these kinds of movies, so shoots them down unfairly with cheap identity politics instead.

[@NGCK-iv3is]

@@Massmilkyway "Butlerian Jihad", really. You guys take this way too seriously. Also, if you don't think Grace is capable of understanding these movies, then why are you watching her videos?

[@VisionStudios1]

Agree 100%

[@PatchesNjose]

She’s not the only person talking about this though.

[@BlazerManiacNumber96]

Is it considered 'white savior' if the white character is the one being saved by the indigenous people?

[@maciedixon3983]

Yeah they shelter him and all he does is manipulate them and teach them a little of different tactics and unite the people on frenzy. Other than that, he’s not a hero. He’s not bad all the time. He’s a gray character

[@soufian2733]

Jamis dying despite Paul seeing him in a vision is foreshadowing that the future he's seeing is constantly shifting. It's also why Paul was hesitant to kill him

[@duncanidaho3740]

I didn't recognize that watching it initially but after watching the review from Quinn's Ideas it makes sense since the books the prescients can see the varied results of different futures. It's also super tragic, Paul learned how to survive from a hypothetical future-friend that he couldn't make.

[@USAShooting27]

@@duncanidaho3740 A “like” for your apt profile name. 👍🏻

[@duncanidaho3740]

@@USAShooting27 Thank you!

[@vinnyfromvenus8188]

@@duncanidaho3740 yeah that was _really_ tragic, I love stories that aren't afraid to *go there* ya know?

[@eyeflip1]

I thought they did a good job at explaining why the Emperor wanted House Atreides out of the picture. At the begining when Paul and Leto are talking Leto says that all the other great houses looks to House Atreides for leadership which threatens the Emperor. They also explained in the very opening scene that the Harkonnen have become even wealthier than the Emperor himself while in control of Arrkakis so by starting a war between House Atreides and the Harkonnens he stands to wipe out both houses he finds as a threat to his rule.

[@ErikDaVinci]

I agree. I saw the 1984 movie and the 2000th tv-series prior to the 2021 movie and kept having a hard time understanding the plot with the emperor. But in this movie this was glass clear and I followed along on a new level. ✨👌

[@stephenferguson9756]

However, the emperor seemed to give all his support to the Harkonens. It didn't seem that he wanted them to weaken eachother as much as just have House Atreides wiped out. He doesn't seem to concerned with the Harkonens.

@@stephenferguson9756 The invasion costed 70 years of spice income for the Harkonnens. The emperor did not wanted to wipe the Harkonnens too, only bankrupt them.

[@vanylaskywalker]

@ That much? It felt like a small battle, not some 70 years savings.

[@popcultureodyssey4459]

I love when we finally get a great movie from Hollywood and Grace spends most of the video talking about race and gender...

[@MaxxRemKing1]

And then when the box offices are low because people are tired of crap, she never mentions that maybe quality matters..

[@vinnyfromvenus8188]

literally 4 minutes of a 27 minute video tho .... ???

[@blakedavis7498]

First time on this channel? Lol.

[@jamesp5301]

That is her jam. I mostly like her commentary outside of her obsession with that. No one who understands the Dr. Kynes, Or Dr Huey, or Duncan Idaho characters and knows the source material would ever think that. I suppose some newb with no knowledge might

[@Jamyes9909]

I had the same thought. She's really into those things.

[@surge8016]

graces white guilt is becoming unbearable.

[@nunezski54]

Ditto - dune published in ‘65….. she’s delusional

[@karencoyle3011]

I love Grace, but she really does have a blind spot; in the sense that she never seems to realize that no one cares nearly as much about which character is which race or gender as she does. I don't think the average movie goer much notices these things - until someone makes a big deal about it. It never occured to me to wonder which of those movie characters were which race in the book versus the movie, I don't think I'm alone in that. The fixation doesn't bother me exactly; but it just puzzles me. Guess I'm old.

[@samuelaganbi8276]

I'm black and I agree with you

[@Nihilist_Porcupine]

I think claiming someone has "white guilt" for caring about diversity is far more indicative of white guilt in the person making the claim than anyone else.

[@ericswag8465]

@@Nihilist_Porcupine let me guess You are white

[@jefferickson5833]

I have watched a lot of reviews and reactions to this movie. You are the only one to bring up this "White Savior" trope. This story is almost 60 years old. You wanted them to change the story? Did you think the Atreides family should have been race changed? You said only minorities died. Every single Atreides died, I'm pretty sure they weren't all minorities. You are seeing things that are not there. I'm not sure what you want. Did you want the story changed so characters from the book didn't die, or did you want only white people cast as those character so its ok for them to die?

[@TheKeyser94]

I actually I would love that they do a makeover of the story meanwhile keeping the core themes of Dune, the original story have a lot of problems, like the Pocahontas Love Story that could be fixed by taking it out all together, hell, even writers now at days, do revisions of old stories, make them better, sure, people love the original version but that doesn't mean that you should hate the new one if the core themes are still there.

[@jefferickson5833]

@@TheKeyser94 I couldn't disagree more. If there is a classic story that is going to be made into a movie. It should follow the classic story. Otherwise, just make a totally new movie in that same universe or just make an "inspired by" film instead.

[@TheKeyser94]

@@jefferickson5833 I really not care if "In name only" if maintain the core of the story intact and throw away all the problematic issue, no shallow mascaraing this issues like this movie does, look at The Mask, The Mask comics are brutal, full of gore and blood, but The Mask the movie is beloved by everyone, Dune should have the same treatment, I love Dune, like I love Lord of the Rings, but I wont pretend that not have issues that need to be addressed.

[@vincejester7558]

@@TheKeyser94 Yup, you really don't have anything serious to say. The half century old classics don't need millennial toddler makeovers. Millennials need to finally start creating something of their own.

[@vincejester7558]

@@TheKeyser94 No. They don't need to be "addressed". Stop vandalizing other peoples' work

[@williamcolgin1987]

While looking at the dead assassin they clearly explained that he was cemented into the wall before the Duke's arrival on Arrakis.

[@Brometheus.]

I didn’t understand that scene. Who put him in the wall?

[@soufian2733]

@@Brometheus. the Harkonnens put him there to activate the hunter-seeker once Paul was alone in the room

[@williamcolgin1987]

@@Brometheus. The Harkonnen's put him in the wall. He was a Harkonnen assassin.

[@Brometheus.]

@@soufian2733 it looked like he had been dead for weeks by the time Paul was in there

[@SkySilverFire]

@@Brometheus. all Harkonnens look several days dead even when alive.

[@Hellkite-er5pg]

I went into the theater not knowing anything about it. Overall, I think it was a great film. Great world building, solid performances from Timothee & Rebecca, and solid special effects.

[@torrhenstark5876]

I agree it's a great film but "solid" special effects is really undervaluing the work that went in here. Marvel movies etc. have mostly "solid" effects - Dune is a huge triumph in that field.

[@V_i_vi_an]

Paul is not a hero, he's a charismatic leader and the point of the books is to show the dangers of blindly trusting charismatic leaders. You could say he's kinda the villain by the end which is going to be interesting to see.

[@YT-mp7ei]

Talk about this movie itself, not the book story that might never be shot into movie.

[@bobsmithy9024]

It might have helped to have found an actor capable of being charismatic. Timothee Chalamet is hardly that. Looked and acted sullen.

[@stellarhyme3]

Don’t give spoilers dude.

[@manantial773]

@@bobsmithy9024 That is very unpopular opinion, Bob, Chalamet is the reason I watched that on a opening weekend on theaters, he have more fans than any other young actor in Hollywood, do not be envy.

[@mikek9297]

Your explanation is wasted here. Grace is a wokescold by heart and seeing a white male being portrayed as heroic and competent is too much to handele for her.

[@kingmanic]

Paul won't become incompetent. He's going to become reluctantly hyper competent at something he doesn't want.

[@omis6610]

Grace wasn’t paying attention. They set up why no one warned the Duke. The other houses didn’t know about it. It was a secret deal between the Emperor and the Harkonens. The Emperor wanted him dead because he was getting too popular with the other houses, and he was afraid he could challenge the throne.

[@ICU1337]

I swear this a common issue with some of her reviews 😑

[@kevinstfort]

While I understood that, I could see how it didn’t come across clearly to her and others.

[@omis6610]

@@kevinstfort Not me, the movie goes out of its way to spell it all out.

[@NOLA-vv3sz]

House Atreides did have allies. They were actually very well regarded in the empire. That was the reason the emperor chose to take them down. The Harkonnen's were just the tool used to carry it out and a way to ensure no one knew the emperor did it. No one else in the empire knew it was coming, and there were very strict rules about house interference in vendetta battles (which is what the Harkonnen's and Atreides were wrapped up in).

[@rodrigosmith24]

totally agree with you there.the way it was filmed, just made it feel like they were doomed from the start. Plus the Duke totally felt like Ned stark in GOT.

[@NOLA-vv3sz]

@@rodrigosmith24 The beauty of it is that the Duke knew very well what was going to happen. He even knew who held the dagger. He did not account for the wild card of a suk doctor being corruptible. Take that out, and he likely becomes emperor himself. He already knew what he had in the population of Arrakis.

[@wssayer]

@@rodrigosmith24 I haven't watch the movie yet, but in the book House Atreidies WERE doomed from the start. Both the Duke and thufir Hawat both saw Arakis for the probable trap it was, but considering the immense wealth and influence to be gained the Duke accepted the risks. Thufir just didn't compute where true betrayal would come from.

[@rodrigosmith24]

that does sound about right. I have all the books, and I will finish them before Dune part 2 comes out. Thanks a lot for the knowledge.

[@hinxlinx]

08:20 Paul’s vision of Jamis teaching him the way of dessert means his foresight of the future isn’t fixed, he is in some degree free to choose his destiny. Killing of Jamis signified the end of Paul’s innocence, and prepped him as an adult to choose the dark path of vengeance, knowing countless people could perish in his holy war. Thus it was a good place to end part one, as Paul completed his first arc as a matured character.

[@PeloquinDavid]

"... prepped [Paul] to choose the dark path of vengeance"? That's not at all an accurate description of the path Paul takes (or the one he fails to take for lack of courage) in the next book in the series.

[@scotlandtheinsane3359]

He also has to take the 'water of life' before his prescience can really take hold. This was novice stuff at this stage...

[@X-101]

No when he saw Jamis training him he's seeing a possible future just like he see's himself being stabbed, so keep that in mind when you see all of Pauls visions

[@maciedixon3983]

Yes

[@erikrungemadsen2081]

Exactly, but in the end the way of the desert is fighting for survival, or dying. So no matter the timeline Jamis teaches Paul the lesson he must learn.

[@maciedixon3983]

Yes. Not everything he sees comes to pass. It is possible futures

[@quizzlybear]

Okay cuz that was confusing as hell for me watching!

[@erikrungemadsen2081]

@@quizzlybear It has some fascinating repercussions, it means Paul allready experienced every lesson he is about to recieve, as well as the lessons he will never recieve from like Jamis.

[@Iamhassentme]

still banging that white saviour drum...Imagine getting to see one of the most anticipated movies of recent years and not being able to see past the actors skin colour. sad.

[@TayronBerlanga]

The fact that Jason as Duncan generates such deep feelings is very telling and those who have read the whole series would know why. I would love to see that payback portrayed at some point but maybe is too much to ask.

[@michaelminjares9141]

I think it’s too much to ask. Unless they create a tv series.

[@mirunaelenabarti]

No spoilers but look up the character named Hayt :)

[@TayronBerlanga]

@@mirunaelenabarti the question is, will we get to ever see all that storyline played on screen? We can only hope

[@789tundra]

Jason is amazing in this film!!!

[@tomgjgj]

Ghola alert!

[@NiteMeir]

Welcome to 2021, where movies are given a rating NOT based on the quality of plot or the level of acting, BUT based on how many people from different ethniticites are in it. Grace, does it ever occur to you that maybe you are the problem you are trying to bring people's attention towards, since you are the one who cannot see people, in this case the actors, past their skin color or ethnicity? I think i speak for quite a lot of people here when i say we watched the movie to see the story of the book come alive, NOT to count the number of people from each race and if they were politically correct enough.

[@moviegurl7420]

Says the women that rarely reviews all black/Latino shows or movies. And Black Panther does not count. Though i was the only noticing she does this a lot. If you wanna be a ally be a ally in your own work and reviews as well

[@v.93]

Amen… I’m getting tired of her constantly bring up this shit!!

[@0Asterite0]

@@v.93 most of the review is positive. Stop being so triggered and get fukt m8

[@Breadking100]

FN A!

[@ericswag8465]

Beautiful. On point.

[@jay999ism]

Knew nothing about Dune. watched it in cinema for 5 times already, absolutely amazed by this world and visual and sound experience Reading the book now

[@Draclobo]

welcome to a mad universe. So many book and prequels!

[@MaxxRemKing1]

Thank you for giving me hope

[@PatrickOMulligan]

Just stick with the original author.

[@dominiccarrano9513]

On the point of "Desert power", the Fremen have incredible power, especially on Arakis where they have homecourt. What they lack is unification, which Paul will bring.

[@mandisaw]

Also tactics. There's supposed to be a marked contrast in military styles between Atreides (honorable legions with defense-advantage), Harkonnen and Sardaukar (brutal, highly-trained fighters who lean on overwhelming numbers & "modern" tech), and the Fremen (small-unit guerrilla cells, later with improved communication & tech). I feel like splitting the movie also splits up the contrasts, in terms of visuals, leadership style, military tactics, etc. Unsure how that will shake out in viewers' minds.

[@maciedixon3983]

Exactly. ThAts it. He does not save them. They save themselves.

[@maciedixon3983]

This is a perfect way of refuting her point

[@sabojezles]

'Unification', (Spoilers)... that would eventually become a bullet to the head willingly until is too late. Damn!!!! Poor Paul, though. Already into God Emperor Dune, daaaaaaaaamn!!!!!!! The ecos of the past certainly affect the future, anyway that's what the Kwisatz Haderach was about about 'directing' more than just 'controlling' time.

[@mandisaw]

@Clever name Her concern that the movie might be read that way, especially by newcomers, was valid. But just like in the comments section, there are plenty of folks on the internet who are familiar enough with Dune to shut down that misinterpretation early.

[@carterjames.]

I just saw Dune here in spain for the 4th time. I knew nothing going in and i absolutely fell in love with the world and the characters introduced. I NEED part 2!!!

[@MaxxRemKing1]

or you could... read the book

[@annstillwell730]

I think the TV series from the 2010s was pretty decent. It at least would give you some material till they make part 2. Read the books though.

[@baraka99]

Tell everyone you know to go and see it. That is the best thing you can do to help make sure that happens.

[@vinnyfromvenus8188]

@@MaxxRemKing1 or maybe I could just wait... ;)

[@kaelosinjin3557]

Grace, every comment in your non-spoiler review tried to explain why this wasn't a white savior story, and the fact that you still see this as a problem shows you didn't read the comments.

[@PhantomAtomFilms]

The other houses didn’t know what was going on. They made note that there were no satellites around arakkis. The emperor himself and Harkonnen conspired against Atredies because of how liked they were. Their rising star was a threat to the emperor.

[@jaredouimette1]

Oh, are they bad at politics? I mean, wouldn't they have the political acumen to guess at what was about to happen or were they dumb?

[@golfer435]

@@jaredouimette1 No Leto knew he was walking into a trap. He didn't have a choice as it was a direct order from the emperor. The whole point of allying with the Fremen was to find some way to defend themselves against the threat.

[@jaredouimette1]

@@golfer435 Not Leto, his allies. Surely they would have realized the honeytrap Arrakis posed?

[@golfer435]

@@jaredouimette1 No, they were all very aware of it. No one was surprised when it went bad, they simply thought they had more time

[@WebSpyder777]

11:48 Maybe you weren't paying attention? Duke Leto was a phenomenal leader and pretty much everyone loves Atreides besides the Harkonans. The whole reason the Emperor set up this scenario is because Leto and House Atreides was TOO POPULAR. They point this out in the movie several times.

[@samkutcher]

Dune finally made me go back to the cinemas after over 600 days, and I LOVED IT!

[@baraka99]

Even if every person in the cinema had covid I would take the chance just to experience this outstanding movie.

[@branm.4661]

I believe even a lot of people back then were taken aback with Paul not being the savior they thought in the books. It’s interesting, it kinda also reminds me of Dany in GOT, they’re going to have to be very careful with how they do this. They do lay the seeds here, especially with the direct line of the Bene Gesserit laying the grounds for Paul to come to be their savior. I am a pretty big defender of this one white savior story, simply because it is a criticism of it. Sadly a lot of people have it go over their heads. It’s more so in the second book, but to me it is glaringly clear in the first one as well

[@wisenige]

Grace over here acting like Annakin Skywalker is not a thing.

[@benjib0yyy]

Exactly that’s my whole point

[@duncanidaho3740]

It's more than that in 'Dune.' In stories like 'Star Wars' there are good guys who should be chosen ones and bad guys that shouldn't. Frank Herbert, on the other hand, argues through the whole 'Dune' series that NO ONE should have such a messianic following. The tragedy is that no one, not even benevolent Paul Atreides, is competent enough to wield a god-like following without causing severe damage to the fabric of humanity.

[@vinnyfromvenus8188]

@@duncanidaho3740 As much as I love that, it's not _very_ clear that they're going in that direction from this first movie alone

[@BKsBullets]

Having just read the book - those elements that you thought were cool as a preview for part 2 are NOT in part 2 - they are part of a holy war Paul wants to avoid. So it's more of a terrible prophecy than a part two tease

[@scotty2naughtty]

As Asian, I'm fine with Dr. Yueh. I just wish they showed his wife in a picture or something, prior to the betrayal... to be sympathetic to his stakes.

[@systemofafox6487]

Yeah and wasn't she a bene gesserit in the books?

[@erikrungemadsen2081]

@@systemofafox6487 Yes she was a bene gesserit.

[@mandisaw]

We didn't get any info on the Imperial conditioning that assures us of his loyalty, or just how much love there is between him and the Atreides family. Dean Stockwell's Yueh had a couple more lines, but got a richer opportunity to endear his character to the audience. Asian or not, I think this Yueh doesn't get enough time to earn the audience's sympathy.

[@vinnyfromvenus8188]

@@mandisaw well said, best comment about Dr. Yueh yet!

[@mkgeiger278]

Grace, WHY do you have to bring in REAL LIFE issues to a Movie based on a Book back in the 60s

[@Nihilist_Porcupine]

Oh yes, I forgot, films and the arts exist inside of a bubble; a little time capsule where they have no influence or impact on anything outside of them. And they're definitely not created by people who are influenced by real life issues or anything. Commentary on real life issues is definitely not a thing artists do!

[@paulamorris7466]

@@Nihilist_Porcupine The greatest movies do not allude to current event or political statements. Dune is great because it stays true to the story and character development.

[@Incogneto1981]

There is no discussion about the 'white saviour' BECAUSE THERE IS NONE IN THE MOVIE !!! OMG Grace, stop looking for something that isn't there! Denis himself has gone into detail addressing this very issue! Stop bringing it up and just enjoy it as it is supposed to be. Apart from that, great review lol I have seen it twice and it is gorgeous. Also, you look a lot into where people are from i.e. Asian, Black etc. where as most of us (I am from Wales) just see people. If they are good then cast them. It shouldn't matter about their background or where they come from. I do wish that they had used Stellan Skarsgård more though as he is fantastic.

[@stephaniebfi4297]

I'm an actual black woman who has loved these books since I was 14. There is no White Saviour problem. I wish she would let this go.

[@kaldur11]

I feel like Grace purposely does this for every movie just to make controversy.

[@kotaac.]

@@kaldur11 deadass , I like her but she always makes problems outta nothin in her reviews

[@Twistedwolf-ru2qk]

Not to mention the fact that Duke Leto is Hispanic That makes Paul half Hispanic

[@TalesHilaricki]

@@Twistedwolf-ru2qk Paul is full white in this (and in the book)

[@moua64]

Also, the SANDWORM was just used so exquisitely. I felt its threat whenever someone was in the desert. The first time we meet it was so amazing. That's scene where they rescue the 21 men and the sandworm is coming and then a sand storm brews gave me chill. So amazing in IMAX

[@baraka99]

The audio in some scenes gave me chills. Outstanding movie.

[@vinnyfromvenus8188]

yessss, the de ser scenes actually made me want to watch Mad Max: Fury Road again in IMAX. I wish they did more screenings of "old" movies :( I saw Titanic in IMAX in 2019 and it was just *AMAZING* I cried so fkng much lol, amazing movie

[@LL03ST]

I have watched Dune here in Switzerland. I had high expectations for the movie and they were most certainly met. Yes, it sets up a sequel, but still delivers as a standalone piece. Truly a fantastic film and I really recommend it.👍🏻👍🏻

[@fortunatus1]

Regarding the door and Duncan's sacrifice: The Sardaukar can blast right through the door. The only way to buy time was to kill as many as possible. It's Paul's fault that he waited too long. It's not that no one liked the Duke Atreides. In fact, it is the opposite. People liked him as a leader in the Landsraad because he was noble, honorable, and honest. It's that they absolutely fear the emperor. Especially his Sardaukar troops, who are considered the strongest military force in the galaxy.

[@fortunatus1]

I think it's also important to mention that Duncan Idaho killed almost 20 Sardaukar by himself. In the Dune lore, this was unprecedented. No single warrior had ever killed so many Sardaukar. EDIT: I should have added... in hand to hand combat.

[@Draclobo]

Agree, also in the book he was said to die in such a manner.

[@alienzenx]

The shields being penetrated by a slow blade was always a bit element of Dune, it is not an "addition".

[@lokithor99]

Dr yueh was cast long before the pandemic. Is it just me or does she seem to be making mountains out of wormdunes every chance she can

[@devongrant7620]

I saw the movie in Imax earlier today and loved it. The White savior element didn't bother me because the side characters didn't believe he was one and he technically didn't save anyone so it wasn't really present to me. Also, the Bene Gesserit set the myth up. They were subtle with setting up a few moments of his potential power. I'd describe it as a mix between Rogue Squadron and Game of Thrones. Also, Momoa's character is a sword master but they didn't really elaborate on that. I was hoping for a bigger action scene at the end but I guess I'll wait for the second part. Villeneuve can maybe make a deal that he'll do 2 more movies if WB helps support his next movie projects like Nolan did, I think. They need to hang onto good talent.

[@maciedixon3983]

He never does save anyone. And he just manipulates people. That’s not a savior. It really is a story of boy trying to survive who gets in over his head.

[@jazzyjones6375]

I gave Grace credit for being a white woman bringing up the issue of the white savior in this movie. However after watching it twice I could not tell what movie she was talking about because I did not see it , and trust me I was looking for it. I kind of wish she hadn’t brought that issue up. But, it is what it is and it’s happens so frequently in Hollywood movies it’s doesn’t hurt to see a white critic bring it up.

[@jaysway9251]

@@jazzyjones6375 just another white critic trynna get brownie points for being “with the people”.

[@lindseym2134]

No disrespect Grace, but I think you missed understood a lot of things in the film. And to be honest, you’re the ONLY person I’ve seen say this whole “white saviour” thing. I also think you’re looking WAY to much into the whole race aspect. They didn’t armour up because they were be attacked on all fronts.

[@baraka99]

This is a faithful interpretation of the book. Grace fails to see it within that lense.

[@tygressblade]

Paul’s visions of Jamie training him were a possible future. What is confusing to Paul about his visions is they are possible futures because the future is not set

[@ladidoschladido5024]

Grace you need to read the books! They are so great, you will get why Dune is the precurser of modern scifi. Its insane when you consider that the book was released in the 1960s

[@jabarimuhammad]

Duncan Idaho wasn’t race bent. He’s described dark skinned in the book

[@sana3843]

So, Jason Momoa is not white? Interesting. I always just assumed he’s caucasian.

[@jzhvaeduh]

@Oksana he’s Samoan

[@haroldbrown893]

@@sana3843 Hawaii

[@rodtaylor5476]

Even the Duke is described as having Olive skin in the book.

[@houseofaction]

@@rodtaylor5476 olive skinned just means tanned. the atreides are of greek origin

[@FoxBatKing]

My roommate and I saw it in IMAX! And he asked me as the credits started rolling, “What did you think?” And I couldn’t respond immediately. It felt like a trance. Like I was truly transported and was caught in the Flow. I loved it. Truly different and beyond my expectations (and the trailers!) 😁

[@blackmanwithcomputer]

Paul comes across as more Anakin then Luke, if that helps streamline his subversion of the chose one trope.

[@Wolfe2318]

Exactly

[@timmytang7965]

Yeah I always get the vibe that Leto II is more like Luke, albeit a more tragic one

[@ksgould1992]

Duke Leto's "damn the spice" line illustrates his power as a leader concerned about people--even ones he doesn't know. He's the ultimate servant leader and this characteristic makes him a popular and respected leader to the other noble houses of the Imperium. This is the power the emperor fears and which drives him to set Leto (who is, by the way, Shaddam's cousin) up for annihilation.

[@manifesteddestiny.]

WB will cement itself as the dumbest Hollywood studio if Dune doesn't get a part 2. This movie was good but not great. Much like batman begins. It has potential to have a great follow up Also, you're right. No one's talking about the white savior....besides movie journalists. Just stop and let us have nice things

[@mandisaw]

No one's talking about it, because the books came out 40yrs ago - either they get a pass for old-fashioned values, or readers already know that the messiah of Arrakkis hasn't even been born yet.

[@aanghedonia9751]

As a person-of-color, I actually think that the white savior element is one of -- if not, the MOST -- telling portion of this tale. Like Octavia Butler's 'Parable of the Sower', it is analytical to the point of prescience in its vision of a future in which both our ideas about charismatic leaders AND unconscious (possibly) white supremacy have not changed for another 8000+ years.

[@vinnyfromvenus8188]

@@aanghedonia9751 that's actually genius tho, it isn't _that_ clear from this movie *alone* but I'm eager to see it developed fully in other entries. Also (replying to the original comment) WB *is* the dumbest Hollywood studio not because they won't give this movie a sequel, but because they'll probably fuck it up like they did Fantastic Beasts, I'm *still* not over that BTW *Hopefully* they get to complete this story in a good fashion otherwise this franchise will become the biggest tragedy of 21st century entertainment, just behind the Star Wars sequels of course ;)

[@manifesteddestiny.]

@@aanghedonia9751 I would say that's bc you're addicted to ideology. Every group in this movie is diverse. The fremen are white, brown and black just like the Paul's people. This is not Last of the Mohicans

[@Zombeastsqurl]

I don’t think you can correlate the current flow of Asian hate with the betrayal of the Dr. character. The movie was made before that was even happening. So not sure what they could have done there

[@Tike22]

I was so confused as to why she even brought that up like they could reshoot significant parts of the movie to correct that one issue.

[@vinnyfromvenus8188]

@@Tike22 yeah that was weird as fuck

[@bani_niba]

Most of the internet and the previous movie has the opposite viewpoint of the galactic politics. The theories are that the Emperor is fearful of Duke Leto as the Duke is TOO popular with the other noble houses. That Leto could eventually lead the other houses in rebellion against the Emperor. Also the Atreides troops were becoming too effective, eventually competing too well with the Sardaukar. None of the other houses came to their aid as the Emperor and the Baron are acting in a SECRET plan. The Harkonnen are the traditional enemies of the Atreides, so the suspicions of the other houses aren't raised when the Harkonnen retaliate against the Atreides for losing ownership of Arrakis. Meaning, the Emperor can appear as an innocent bystander when this clan rivalry flames up into genocide. The Baron assumes total annihilation of all Atreides people will hide the fact that some Sardaukar troops showed up in the battles.

[@mandisaw]

That's not a viewpoint, that's the actual plot

[@oolong2]

I won't lie, Dune is based on a "white savior complex", but to simply call it that and move on misses the meaning in the story.... Dune is the original "white savior" sci-fi story that many other franchises borrowed from (Star Wars, Avatar, etc.). However Dune goes FAR DEEPER than these other stories which is why it takes multiple movies to explain. A big part of Dune at it's core is a story about colonialism and imperialism and how centuries of exploitation makes humanity weak. So if you take out the "white savior complex" part of the story, you lose a lot of the meaning behind Dune.

[@jeancholidis658]

Thanos is great in everything he’s in

[@vinnyfromvenus8188]

@MortalGamerDC1 85 well that was uncalled for

[@m.i.a3532]

Come on Grace, the fact that he was the only Asian character in the movie, and he played such an awesome role spectacularly IS what made the movie more enjoyable.

[@juliobro1]

For me it felt logical; ancient oriental healing. Although, an asian as Gurney would've looked good. Someone like Sanada, maybe?

[@alex_walters]

having watched the movie, how is there a white savior story? he’s simply asking for help from the Fremen they are actually the ones that are helping him it just seems like people are trying to find a way to criticize the movie even though theres nothing there

[@blackflagsnroses6013]

Well it is a white savior trope that’s specifically made. The Bene Geserrit explicitly built a messiah mythology to the natives of Arrakis. Soon people will find that when it comes to power, politics, war, religion there are no saviors

[@Tu51ndBl4d3]

hes literally called the messiah lmao bro stfu

[@ziggystardust457]

It's like she watched a totally different movie,get the feeling you were watching your phone and not the movie

[@forceinfinity]

The omission that bugged me was the Suk conditioning, what it was, and why it’s subversion is next to impossible to pull off. With that knowledge it would’ve made the ‘event’ so much more of a gut punch than it was in the movie

[@valaraukar_595]

Hey, Grace! I've been following your coverage since around 2013 and NEVER have I been at odds with you on anything like this before. It would have helped your review if you were more familiar with the source material. Also, it's the first movie - it does not need to have all the answers.

[@ayudan24688]

I'm already imagining seeing the God emperor on the big screen, with this pace it may take 20 years

[@maciedixon3983]

They cut out the scenes that show how liet comes to admire the duke and Paul (the dinner scene) and since we don’t see inner thoughts, we don’t see how she comes to admire them as much. Watch her face in the thopter

[@vinnyfromvenus8188]

that's a shame we could've seen that :( maybe on the Blu-ray release? 👀

[@MistaJ28]

Dennis never disappoints. Thats for sure.

[@skywalkies77]

It was the most epic thing I’ve seen the theatre since Gladiator. 10 of freaking 10 💥

[@ICU1337]

Personally I liked his Blade Runner, Arrival, and Sicario movies 🤷🏽‍♂️ I never walked away from those movies thinking "boy was this a waste of my time". I do wish this movie had an actual ending though... It just... stops... 🤨

[@EDVenturesFL]

@@ICU1337 he has a second 3 hour movie which is the 2nd part

[@baraka99]

Since Enemy and Sicario I became a massive fan of Denis Villeneuve.

[@Nerevar5me]

The only film of his that I didn’t find amazing was Arrival. Prisoners. Sicario. BR2049. All film study pieces.

[@sebastianholguin2489]

Having read the first four books, I can't wait to see how audiences react to Paul's overall character arc. Cause let me tell you I don't think everyone will be crazy about it.

[@michaelminjares9141]

Skip book two. The general audience will not understand it.

[@maciedixon3983]

@@michaelminjares9141 they seem to not even understand this one so can you imagine how they react to dune messiah. It could be a bloodbath

[@dreadelectric7745]

Dune Messiah is heartbreaking.....

[@gusharris-reid3419]

The 'dragonfly helicopters' are called ornithopters, Grace 😄🦗🚁

[@chrisp21]

Those visions are Paul seeing potential futures. Part of Paul's reluctance is that he already recognizes Jamus as a friend from his visions.

[@henryproctor2193]

I believe the bulk of the people who see this movie are already Dune fans, and I would encourage you Grace to read the books, at least the first 2, so you can truly understand how this complex universe works. Thanks for your review, I always appreciate your take on films.

[@TheKeyser94]

I am a Dune fan, that doesn't mean that I not have some problems with Herbert story, those problems are addressed in the miniseries but no in this movie, yeah, it look pretty, but is totally shallow and have no substance whatsoever.

[@henryproctor2193]

@@TheKeyser94 this movie is most likely first in a trilogy, it was smart to break the story up into chunks. Brian Herbert has provided a lot of backstory his father didn't include. This universe is too complex for any movie to do it justice with the financial demands the studios make.

[@TheKeyser94]

@@henryproctor2193 I had already a watched a trilogy of movies about Dune back in the 90', the miniseries, and even that were TV movies, of nearly or more two hours, they have better done and have more nuances than this movie, using the excuse that this first movie of a trilogy doesn't work when the movie does a poor job in establishing the central conflict between the three houses, Corrino, Harkonnen and Atreides, this movie is all visuals but no substance.

[@TheKeyser94]

@@henryproctor2193 The Dune miniseries was done even before Brian Herbert began to write his books, and already done a better job than this movie, and they were TV movies, so popular that they were ported to other TV Networks. Basically, they were a movie trilogy in their own.

[@chickenporkadob0]

this movie is so well done that i didn't notice anyone's race until this reviewer mentioned it. man what the heck.

[@ICU1337]

Anakin is based on Paul. Luke is not based on Paul. Once you understand that you understand how this story goes. Paul is foretold to be the one, same as Anakin, but it just so happens to be that they were just a bridge to the one. Also both in Star Wars and in Dune, the prophecy foretelling the coming of the one that will bring balance is a made up propaganda story that the universe itself just simply manifests itself.

[@sk8mafia214]

Yup, after reading some of the material and watching the film I see where George Lucas got the Stars Wars idea.

[@TopherACreative]

Not to mention both stories have twins born who are better then their father.

[@Awol991]

The Duke was a good leader and well liked. That made him a big threat to the Emperor.

[@DV-cm3tb]

She is way too stuck on skin color in her review like so many people. I literally didn't and still don't care about any of that watching the movie. I loved the whole experience watching it.

[@Dularr]

I did find the movie completed the story. The story was about Paul deciding his path. The "Old Duke" path was through acts of bravery and machismo. Symbolized through bull fighting. Duke Leto path was through justice and honor. Symbolized through his popularity with the other houses. Paul decided his path at the end of the movie. With Paul deciding his path will be blood and death. (plenty of death)

[@hix7503]

grace, stop paying attention to race. especially when it’s written in the lore. LITERALLY nobody cares.

[@hix7503]

@F.R. F huh?

[@MaxxRemKing1]

I like how this comment has some of the most likes

[@NoticeDesign]

They specifically say why the Emperor wants them dead. It's because the Duke was so loved and respected he was starting to overshadow the emperor.

[@brotherjohnnyxXxX]

Chang Chen was cast as Dr Yueh way before the pandemic started.

[@Uncle_Baby_Billy]

Duncan dies trimming the number of the universe's most elite soldiers so they don't have to deal with a whole squad.

[@jobutony]

If they don't go up through God Emperor of Dune, Jason Momoa's character will be wasted.

[@johnnytutor1692]

Those, who push the view of identity politics in all areas of life, are the ones that judge others by their race rather than their character.

[@bryanreynolds8721]

My biggest problem with this movie is they didn't do a good enough job explaining why the emperor would join forces with House Harkonnen to destroy the Atreides and explaining the mentats. If you have not read the books then you don't know that the emperor hates Leto because he's popular with most of the other houses because of his honor and integrity, qualities neither the emperor or the baron have. Leaving that out will probably confuse people who haven't read the books because, like you said in your review, they don't know why these two forces hate them so much. Other than that, as a fan of Dune, i loved this movie.

[@XManium]

Yeah, the one thing the Sci-Fi Channel version did better than this version was to turn the Emperor's daughter into a major character and use her to provide exposition on the underlying politics.

[@thegrandpotato6014]

Wasn’t that explained in the second half of the book ?

[@XManium]

It was explained in the first half, mostly through internal dialogue. Frank Herbert was notorious for walking the reader through the thought processes of every character.

[@AssassinHunterGamingChannel]

The reason nobody cares because you’re seeing something that simply not there.

[@Evil_Vegan]

I'm asian and I thought I saw it there, and cringed at first at the end. But then I learned there's more to this savior thing, so it became way more palatable. I appreciate Grace when she's pushing boundaries for a more inclusive media.

[@jking4973]

I saw the film at the exact theater you mentioned in Lincoln Square this evening, (it’s my go to theater), and I haven’t seen such a packed theater since Endgame. EVERY SINGLE SEAT was occupied!

[@kwalton7690]

I agree the human computers (Hawat and De Vries) character development were sacrificed in this film. Both had more to do in the novel.

[@maciedixon3983]

Thufir will probably get some in the sequel

[@kwalton7690]

@@maciedixon3983 It's hazy even though I saw Dune yesterday but I feel like he just disappeared after the attack but yes he should be more featured if there is a second film.

[@ibudlin]

Give us a break with colors and races jesus... it's a novel adaptation cmon

[@vinnyfromvenus8188]

and that makes it above criticism somehow? lol

[@Cornerboy73]

I hope the film does well; it would be nice to see it succeed for everyone involved. As an aside, I note this with respect Grace: your rigorous commentaries concerning race, genders and LGBTQ2+ people, while I believe are well-intentioned, have become predictable and are veering dangerously close to pandering; be careful.

[@Yoke103HD]

It's been pandering for almost 2 years now. I try to ignore the social justice side because I like her insider knowledge. If not for the extra info she provides, I would never watch her content because I would always be bitter with no payoff.

[@NGCK-iv3is]

If a movie is able to apeal to a wide range of audiences, then more money will be made. If more money is made, then that movie will get sequels.

[@mikek9297]

They're not well intentioned - it's just branding exercise by virtue signaling to position the channel towards a certain audience (twitter mob)

[@zifan_winters]

Agree with ya mate 👍

[@vinnyfromvenus8188]

finally a comment that criticizes her without dragging her through the mud for no reason. *MAD* respects dude 👏👏👏

[@CurtisIntravia]

At the end of the movie, Rebecca Ferguson smiles when Zendaya says “this is just the beginning” and then when no one is looking she quickly drops the smile and has a sinister and determined expression. I feel like this is foreshadowing that she is going to betray the Fremon. Really hoping for a sequel 🤞🏻

[@ronwells8186]

That’s definitely not what it’s foreshadowing. It’s better than that.

[@CurtisIntravia]

Ooo I’m excited to hear that. I might attempt reading the book bc idk if I can wait

[@davidneil6206]

Its my understanding that the cultures in Dune are supposed to be strange yet slightly familiar. This gives them a unique feel. The Fremen in particular are supposed to be the most foreign to the audience. In the book, they continue to be more and more unfamiliar and incompatible with our own understandings and philosophies.

[@idawg7332]

I haven't read the books and its obvious that paul won't be a typical savior character. Such a dumb criticism

[@timpower4922]

Grace, god dammit. Your first two points are ridiculous. 1. Of course it was an abrupt ending. The story is huge. 2. The book was published in 1965. It doesn’t have a 2021 agenda. Can’t we just have something nice?

[@MaxxRemKing1]

No Tim we can't because everything has to be watered down, "race bent" and explained in detail because the audience can't chew and think at the same time. If the Dune box office holds it will be a miracle.

[@edv8064]

I really enjoyed the movie. Highly entertaining, can’t wait for part 2. I saw it on HBO Max, but will se it on IMAX this weekend. It was quite the spectacle. I will say the ending for me was fine, since in the title It said part one. I kind of figured there would be a part 2.

[@brandstixs7836]

Dune is basically an arthouse film with a multi-million dollar budget. I loved it so much but I don't know how that will fare with general audiences.

[@ekkovisionlol]

Agreed