Dungeons and Dragons Lore: Demonweb Pits

The Abyssal domain of Lolth, demon queen of spiders and the goddess of the Drow elves. Explore its many secrets and its history.
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[@Zasek2112]

Quite often the BIG spider that owns a web doesn't sit in the middle. They sit on the edge where you can't see it just feeling the vibrations. It makes sense (at least to me) that Lolth wouldn't be in a predictable and obvious spot.

[@BrotherSlow]

6:25 - Absolutely killed me. The sheer whiplash of hearing AJ talk about Eldridge horrors, to then seeing a picture of Spongebob, and then realizing it's a goatse reference. Magnificent.

[@AJPickett]

THANK YOU!

[@Greenscyth22]

Seeing as how the Demonweb Pit is such a soul crushing plane, I can’t tell whether any Drow would consider it a blessing to walk amongst it’s sticky strands of doom. Almost all Drow wish to be so close to their deity, but seeing as how Lolth treats her own subjects so harshly I can’t imagine how long your basic Drow would last down there. Dressing in arachnid motifs and sacrificing hapless innocents can only carry so much weight in the Demonweb Pits, it sure as hell won’t stop stray monstrosities from preying on a unsuspecting Drow.

[@AJPickett]

Drow are rarely completely at ease, some find the plane close to comfortable, they don't mind spiders crawling over them and having webs all over their body, others, not so much. One drow felt like the entire plane was seeking to cocoon them in webs, down to the very air being filled with invisible strands of web that were coating the lungs.

[@FFStalin]

All weak ilythiiri must perish, Lolth tlu Malla!

[@AJPickett]

For those of you who have not encountered a New Zealander going into "speaking faster than a were-squirrel" that two minute summary of the Abyss was fast even by my standards.

[@zimattack9994]

So whens the were spuirrel vid my mind is all ready coming up with ideas!

[@dboot8886]

Huh, well... Lore Librarian Ability: "I'll Summarize" As a Quick Action the lore librarian can add a temporary modifier equal to their Int bonus to another character's skill bonus. They will forget this lesson after the next use of that skill, should have taken notes!

[@AJPickett]

@@dboot8886 that is awesome 😎

[@StraboSE]

You haven't met someone from Indiana have you?

[@Luirru55]

What is the creature it contains? Draeden? Where can I read more about this?

[@strike732]

Omg this is perfect - my part is going here soon omg I was gonna have to research it my self - you are a god send

[@AJPickett]

Angel or Archon (or bolt of lightning)?

[@anthonyromasco3528]

Kwakul Anansi, though chaotic neutral,would be an interesting deity to bring into a plot involving Lolth.

[@stain1095]

@@AJPickett Archon

[@ozzymandius666]

I played all those modules when I was a kid, right when they came out, 1981 or so. The D1-3 were cool, because there was lots of opportunities for the DM to add his own stuff.

[@nomadjensen8276]

Love of DnD and the war of the spider queen books brought me here. I hate spiders but I can't get enough of the dark elves lore and anything underdark related.

[@fatguyfrommy8421]

Demon Weeb Pit....now that is more terrifying.

[@robk8463]

The War of the Spider Queen series was really good! The characters descending the plane on MASSIVE spiderwebs was so cool!

[@AngelusAnsell]

Every time you mention those old old modules, I feel like old DnD was more complex, and likely a lot harder. I also find myself really wanting to try out the ancient ways of playing the game...even though I have hardly any actual playing experience with even modern DnD.

[@robk8463]

2nd Edition AD&D is for me the truest form of D&D. I think it requires more roleplaying and was more a theater of the mind. It was exciting!

[@gigatwin5298]

You've peeked my interest with that eclipse order of vampires sworn to some kind of vampire demon lord. Now where's the button to learn more?

[@AJPickett]

The subscribe button my friend

[@gigatwin5298]

@@AJPickett but I'm already subscribed

[@havilar3095]

i heard the name Vlad my my my mind screamed Vlad Tepes Vlad the Impaler Dacula then it said or Vlad the bunny who makes cookies! yus now i look forward to a video about the eclipse order!

[@stephenclements6158]

I'm not even 10 minutes into the video, and the amount of cosmos-breaking knowledge you've dropped on me it astounding! Drinking from my TMG mug as I listen. :)

[@AJPickett]

A fitting vessel for a Mighty Brew!

[@MrCoryinnocence]

I love the art on the cover of "Queen of the demonweb pits".

[@neonavaro25]

Can we take a second to appreciate how far Aj has come, being able to summarize the Blood War situation in a neat 1 minute and 10 seconds? 2:25

[@AJPickett]

Was it that fast? Holy shit... !

[@josephsorrendino9645]

Played these modules when I was 13. Made friendships that have lasted to this day. Glad to see that there's still interest in it. Oh yeah I'm old😁

[@thinking-ape6483]

According to Monsters and Mythology, Kanchelsis is a full-blown Intermediate Power, not a demi-power, unless something has changed since then and I missed something, which I very well may have.

[@OroborosDuskcrow]

The last time I was this early, Tharizdun was still sane. :)

[@zenvariety9383]

And now he's trying to break free and may use Caleb Widowgast and Beauregaurd Lionett to achieve his goal. Pretty sure he's masquerading as the Somnovem.

[@AJPickett]

100% on topic joke, 50 points Ravenclaw house.

[@philurbaniak1811]

Something in my gut is telling me that far more than we know is centered around Our Queen and it is unsettling.

[@elwoodbrown7005]

You have me fasinated with ghuanadaur and tharizdan and the origins of the planes.

[@AJPickett]

Correct.

[@shamusfarmer]

LOVE these descriptions of abyssal layers, can't wait to hear more. There's too little of this. This and the Franz Urbloob or whatever vid are some of my favorites because of that.

[@torbjornlekberg7756]

She entered the creatures ... body opening ... to make a deal. How very drow.

[@AJPickett]

Right?

[@shamusfarmer]

I really wish you had rattled off weird encounter locations all day!

[@AJPickett]

Well... I do a podcasty series of videos where I may do that sort of thing.

[@shamusfarmer]

@@AJPickett You know what? I watch your normal videos religiously, but I don't think I've ever watched one of your podcasts. Maybe I'm biased against them because I've seen in other live shows and podcasts and such the people tend to go way off topic, rambling on for hours. If they would just focus on the subject at hand i'd be far more interested. But maybe yours aren't like that? Maybe I should give your podcasts a try...

[@jgr7487]

•Lolth is one of the 4 Fearsome Ladies (along with the Lady of Pain, Pale Night, & the Raven Queen, all of the 3 are far more powerful & important than we imagine); •Lolth has one of the biggest & most intricate Abyssal domains; •Lolth is just a subracial supreme deity. one of these doesn't match the other 2.

[@kendrickrochelanzot2053]

Lolth when heroes enter her lair: execute order 66

[@Arius_Astronomy]

The Abyss is basically the meat grinder campaign setting. Everything could kill you. Short rests are few and far between. If you live long it will only be long enough for you to see yourself become the villain... or a mad man... or undead if you piss of Orcus.

[@TheKing-qz9wd]

Or if you're insane you may have put yourself in the strangest, most brutal war yet.

[@jtjames79]

I'm a mad man and a villain already, so I should be fine.

[@TheKing-qz9wd]

@@jtjames79 Wanna team up and deicide the pantheons? Should be able to consume all of the abyss as well.

[@Arius_Astronomy]

@@jtjames79 lol. Might as well add undead to that.

[@uglyweirdo1389]

Satispidering

[@AJPickett]

Nice

[@uglyweirdo1389]

@@AJPickett You put the work into spider content. We can at least do a spider bit.

[@johngleeman8347]

Lolth: I'll teach those impudent adventurers the price of defying me. Fire the photon torpedos! XD

[@jacobmendonca8571]

Lolth: release the spiderKraken!

[@skrog907]

A new video from AJ? Gotta love it.

[@basicallyafk7494]

This is exactly what I've been waiting for!!!!! Love it, the Drow, Lolth and the entire pantheon!! My campaign involves the affects from the temporary death of Lolth herself. So this gives my mind more fuel about the setting before my party goes snooping!

[@brightglory5734]

This is a fine video Mr. Pickett.

[@brianh4880]

An alliance between Lolth and Vecna...that is a few steps past terrifying and i honestly don't want to think about it. Well done sir.

[@A_real_Ha_So]

God of The Ropers? I shouldve known Norman Fell was associated with an evil Deity 😂😂😄😄😊😊😞 .. Don't judge me for being old enough to know why that's funny

[@BaneRain]

People with ropes around their necks don't always hang. Even a filthy beggar like that has a protecting angel. A golden-haired angel watches over him.

[@anthonyromasco3528]

Scariest team-up ever? Lolth, and Anthraxus. I know, he's not the oinodaemon any more, but he totally rocked. Venom and pestilence, the ultimate nightmare

[@ryanulrich2147]

This Spider Week(s) 🕸 series is the best ever!!! I love hearing about the Abyss. Keep it up!

[@brianbrianbification]

"wheezing, splattering, sphincter" with the SpongeBob.. Has me crying

[@PattPlays]

21:40 so organic matter is chaotic in nature dope. Makes you wonder where the obyrith came from in their own world, and if they were as we are.

[@Mixedpuppy]

Wow your detail and explanation on this subject was amazing. I read a number of books but the detail of the material and what is known is great. Thank you.

[@AJPickett]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@nyarparablepsis872]

That was a fascinating exploration of a place I always skipped over! Thank you, oh mighty sage :)

[@AJPickett]

You are most welcome Nyar

[@smilingbear7430]

A video on vhaeraun would be amazing!

[@AJPickett]

Demi-human gods are my favourites.

[@jackingwads7513]

I got my snack of siracha and tater tots ready

[@brightglory5734]

War of the Spider Queen is a fun series for anyone interested in drow or their pantheon.

[@idylehandz3911]

currently working through for the 2nd time. audible this go

[@purplehaze2358]

I only just now realized that the nine hells were likely a recaptured layer of the abyss thanks to this video. It honestly makes too much sense that they’re a complete shithole for more reasons than just the devils therein.

[@BaneRain]

I always thought baator was another planet

[@HenriFaust]

It's also said to be a planet seized from the prime material plane.

[@AJPickett]

Now imagine a campaign where the nine Hells become the 11 hell's and Lolth loses the Demon web.

[@almitrahopkins1873]

@@AJPickett Imagine a campaign where a layer of the abyss is spat out if the conquering demon lord is any alignment other than chaotic evil. A lawful good paladin kills a minor demon lord of a layer and suddenly there is a new layer of Celestia...

[@Insane-Howl-Cowl]

I like the way you are building up to Lloth.

[@Insane-Howl-Cowl]

The method actually makes me think WE are trapped in her web and she's just slowly making her way over to devour us.

[@itzybitzyspyder]

Always found the concept of a web to be too lawful for the Abyss but it's still terrifying

[@jupiterrising887]

Depends on the spider. Some webs are extremely orderly and patterned. Others (such as a black widow) are extremely chaotic and messy.

[@itzybitzyspyder]

@@jupiterrising887 I mean the concept of a web. It's essentially planning for the future and lying in wait as a constant. I guess what they are going for is how the web interrupts the normalcy of what it's connected to but that would almost require law to juxtapose the web as chaotic.

[@itzybitzyspyder]

@@Fgway yeah. I like that.

[@jongreene5000]

Wondering if you have read the trilogy of novels.... White Plume Mountain.... Descent into the Depths of the Earth... and Queen of the Demonweb Pits..... Lilith actually dies towards the end of the Demonweb Pits.... The books are a fantastic read.... Paul Kidd wrote those and did a great job.....

[@jongreene5000]

Your reviews are so spot on...... Do a review of the books.....

[@ProgZombie]

Thank you so much AJ, rediscovered your channel after a few years away from D&D and you've completely reignited my passion for the hobby and even got me DMing again. I'll be supporting you more directly henceforth but thought you also might like to know you'll be featuring in my campaign as a wandering monster ecologist. Thank you again!

[@boldbearings]

Terrifyingly terrific. And great art selection.

[@cordelking6110]

Thank you sir, perfect to get some more info on lolth since im running out of the abyss, having 3 drow players, lolth has had a huge impact thank you🕸🕷

[@almitrahopkins1873]

3 Drow players? How many new characters have the other players had to make so far?

[@JohnA...]

This lore is good, its so very twistingly intricate and well created... why does it have to be spiders though.

[@AJPickett]

"Snakes, why does it have to be snakes" *Indiana Jones*

[@jameswright4640]

I loved the giants/drow series when it came out and I spent my paper route money on each module. I dm'd it, our party played it and loved it. So much fun! I remember the guy that played a Paladin coming up to me after the fire giants saying hey, this is going to get a little easier, right? And I don't remember what I said but apparently I laughed so evilly that we had two new players the very next time. Good times, good memories. New subscriber, really enjoying your videos. Great stuff!

[@ProgZombie]

Thanks AJ. Just finished my campaign with a heavy focus on Lolth and the Demonweb pits are this video helped me to no end. You rock!

[@AJPickett]

Glad I could help!

[@Wraithing]

You're a marvel, AJ Pickett. Like an alchemist, creating a distilled concentrate of listenable researched lore, where previously was a, much conflicted, mangle of sourcebooks and adventures. Thanks 👍

[@venkelos6996]

The Drow are a weird topic for me. I've been into D&D for the better part of 30 years, reading monster manuals, and lore sources; mostly Forgotten Realms, but because the 2e Drow were such Saturday morning cartoon villains, and on the other side Drizzt was basically just a giant fan-meme, I didn't pay too much attention to them. It's funny because, since I love FRCS, I feel I actually know a decent amount about the Drow, but since so much of them seems to be the RA Salvatore books, I know next to nothing about the Drow of NOT Faerun. I think that Oerth has an Underdark, too, but without things like Drizzt, the Baenres, and Menzobarannzen, it can be tough to find details about the Drow of the Greyhawk setting. I know Eclavadra, but only because she is in my 3e ELHB, and nothing else comes to mind. 😊 At some recent point, however, the Drow drew an incredible amount of focus from me, and a number of story characters I have written, or backup characters I might want to have for unexpected gaming opportunities, have been Drow. I'm nor sure if it's because of the recent push to steamroll their current lore, to replace it with "kinder" fare, which I mostly don't support, or just because my mindset can eek out various RP opportunities with them, but they have strolled around in my head a lot,of late. As to Lolth's domain, I personally find it a difficult place to make use of. I find it funny that OotA suggests having the party of that campaign storm the Demonweb, and seek revenge on Lolth, as if theyvare leveled for the exercise, and striking a deity in their home plane is simple, but I'm not sure how to do anything with it. I'm also somewhat surprised that none of the other Demon Lords can't try and seize it from Her, since ownership of layers can, and does change, and a bit surprised that Lolth never found an opportunity to co-opt the Spider-Fiends to Her service, with Miska MIA, and the Queen of Chaos sort of doing nothing, these days.

[@MidraLOFF]

They don’t seize the pits from Lolth because she absolutely dwarfs them in power. That and there’s already more prominent and existing rivalries in the abyss that occupy the strongest of the demon lords. None of these include Lolth, Orcus and Demogorgon obviously hate eachother, and Graz’zt kinda just waits for the right opportunity to seize layers.

[@zacharyhawley1693]

The Abyss is okay, the B&B's aren't the greatest but if you can block out the screams of the damned its easily 7/10

[@AJPickett]

I don't know what that was in my latte.. but it wasn't milk.

[@almitrahopkins1873]

The only thing on the TV was Cats, for some reason...

[@zmishiymishi5349]

Im finding a new respect for Lolth here

[@Thorn99855]

So Oogershek is the name of the disgusting portal in the Demonweb Pits; And it is also the name of this Drayden that lets Lolth dig around in its brain for forgotten memories? In exchange for letting it know if she finds where the other Drayden are located? If I got any of that wrong, please clarify. This one was kinda hard to follow.

[@AJPickett]

Sounds like you got it.

[@Thorn99855]

@@AJPickett Ok cool. My brain was trying hard to wrap itself around the concept.

[@KiX-K4T13]

Thank you, sir! That was rather informative. Imagine that army of Bone Dragons! Terrifying if you were on the wrong end of thar war, to say the least. I doubt I could keep my composure in such company. Winning that ordeal would require divine intervention. "Lolth, darling. We need to talk about your recent hobbies..."

[@kramooo9666]

can you please do a video on the one Good Drow Goddess Eilistraee

[@AJPickett]

Yes I can.

[@MrCSeay]

Love these realm/ God reviews

[@lunar_lotus4841]

When I heard that a branch of the lower pits led to ''a dimension of yellow sand and purple scry, formed out of chaos stuff- located there was a massive machine fortress in the shape of a colossal spider. Said to be where Lolth's lair resides.'' I immediately thought of Achaea, a 'MUD' text based rpg game that's played on line. Basically it's a spinoff of Pathfinder's Dark/Black Sun.

[@Im-Not-a-Dog]

Does Lolth have a presence in Chitinspace, the Crystal Sphere inhabited by only insectoid creatures? And if so, how is she viewed there?

[@AJPickett]

I have no idea.

[@Im-Not-a-Dog]

@@AJPickett Chitinspace: *Exists* Lolth: "It's Free Real Estate."

[@kadoj]

The mind of the trapped tharizdun was shattered into many fragments, hence becoming the ‘mad god.’ When his mind was shattered and he was sealed away, Some of those fragments were left to wander the multiverse as unknowing aspects because their identity is locked up in the cosmic slammer.

[@Im-Not-a-Dog]

@@kadoj That has nothing to do neither the main comment nor either of the two replies. In other words, Whatcha on about?

[@kadoj]

@@Im-Not-a-Dog oh shite. my bad lol I guess I somehow replied to the wrong comment, whoopsie. I was very tired...

[@Kholan95]

I was surprised that Zarassu wasn't brought up 🤔

[@simmonslucas]

So deep so nerdy 💯

[@dragonlord498]

interesting video gets me thinking what would be the best way to get rid of that spider web

[@AJPickett]

Megaversal Solvent

[@JohnDowson100]

28:05 oh that's cool. When did it happen? Are Ghaunadaur and Juiblex aspects of Tharidzun in the end? Was it ever confirmed?

[@AJPickett]

It's an good an explanation as I ever found.

[@justafloofbean2342]

I'm watching this to refresh myself and I realized something I didn't know the first time I watched this At the time I didn't know what a bebilith was Now that I do.... The fire suddenly starts to make more sense.......

[@miketerran4140]

I shouldn't be amazed but as always the great D&D repository that is TMG and it's world renowned Curator A.J. Pickett leave me in awe.

[@gabrieladerre2862]

This is so awesome! I'd love to see invidual videos on the Dark Selendrine! As well as the expanded, and updated, videos on dragons! Particularly the Chromatic, including Deep/Purple Dragons. I personally don't care about the good ones! They're not as fun, in my opinion! Hope you're well, AJ! I've not commented much, lately, but I'm still watching, and loving, your work!!!

[@AJPickett]

Hey stranger, yes it has been a long while since I heard from you! I will have more elf stuff soon, demi-human deities and more visits to exotic realms.. and dragons :)

[@nicolaezenoaga9756]

Thanks.

[@squirrellordsgaming2772]

As a fan of horror, I could use and abuse a dark and scary setting like this one. My poor players (Evil Smile Intensifying).....

[@AJPickett]

Tell me oh lord of the nuts, what do you know of were-squirrels?

[@IalporVpaahi]

@@AJPickett Were-squirrels?! That sounds like fun.

[@squirrellordsgaming2772]

@@IalporVpaahi Yes, Yes, Killer squirrels. I remember a comedy game where you play as Chitulu who was forced to become an Adventurer to save the world. I remember the swarm of undead murder squirrels was one of the tougher early game fights.

[@squirrellordsgaming2772]

@@AJPickett I think you've just gave me enough ideas for a good home-brew for a group of hired hit-men for an evil Druid villain. Thank you very much!

[@delenaa9312]

You talk about the chromatic dragon devils

[@rutgerkemperman2830]

Awesome video as always AJ! Couldn't help but take special notice of you naming Tharizdun and his agents in this video; one of my players has Shothragot, Tharizdun's greatest servant, as his otherwordly patron. I was wondering, any chance you know more about him or got plans for a future vid on Shothragot? It's very difficult to find more on him online heh

[@AJPickett]

I'll take a look into it, sure :)

[@AJPickett]

Rutger Kemperman you may want to... ahem... take a look at this, and wait until the penny drops. kzbin.info/www/bejne/q2HNm4d3bMZkfKM

[@samuelciprispuches9548]

Thanks Rutger! Shothragot is the BBEG of my campaign and i would like to know more too.

[@rutgerkemperman2830]

@@AJPickett Fantastic! I totally missed this one when looking around, I had seen the one on Tharizdun but I think I accidentally skipped over the one from Shoth... thanks for pointing me AJ :)

[@charlesjameskelly7689]

Please do more on elder evils and far realm stars

[@1337karm]

Wait, Ghaunadaur is an aspect of Tharizdun? I read somewhere that Juiblex is an aspect of Ghaunadaur. So the mad god is less chained that I thought. Dude gets around.

[@fistimusmaximus6576]

A interesting video would be about some tanarri demonlords who oppose the obyriths, ive not seen any lore to cover said group..wonder as they are individually weaker if they fight their chaotic nature and band together...also do they eventually gain their own individual form once they own a layer/gain power..

[@AJPickett]

That is essential to the concept of the tanar'ri as the revolted and overthrew the obyrith

[@fistimusmaximus6576]

@@AJPickett ahh was wondering if it was like pathfinder that has actual demon lords but are essentially just op balor.

[@fistimusmaximus6576]

@@AJPickett Sorry ive another nerdy question, with the beta release of wrath of the rightous was curious if DandD had any demon lords who are greater balors similar too Khorramzadeh. Curious if any notworthy tanar'ri who are on par with the obyrith.

[@theatagamer90]

Just in time for my PCs to meet a metric ton of Dark Elves and other lovely things. This series(? I suppose) is carrying the entire first 1/2 or so of the campaign. The 2nd Bit is Mind Flayers. Or Vecna, not too sure yet.

[@frankyflowers]

i thought of a cool video for you to make. spells from early dnd that are now possible in reality because of technology. i thought of this watching an fpv drone and that flying eyeball spell. the self aiming rifle is kind of like magic missile fireworks and leds are catnip dancing lights. stuff like that.

[@AJPickett]

Hmmm, like Sending!

[@squirrellordsgaming2772]

Nice, very nice.

[@skylance25]

This is one best vids yet

[@1337karm]

I can’t wait for deep dives on Ghaunadaur and Vhaeraun. Unless I somehow missed them?

[@Torlonus]

I was wondering if you could do a video on the the well of darkness, I can't find much on it but the idea of a prison in the abyss seems interesting.

[@psyberklown3434]

Elfrick hmmm two questions, does he have a reality shattering jet black demon sword and is he an albino?.

[@AJPickett]

Duke Alfric is just an elven noble. Elric is more like a ... hmmm... LeShay maybe?

[@wolfsbanealphas617]

@@AJPickett who is more powerful in your opinon arioch, slannesh or lolth

[@AJPickett]

@@wolfsbanealphas617 Slannesh

[@wolfsbanealphas617]

@@AJPickett thanks for responding so fast

[@wolfsbanealphas617]

@@AJPickett who do you think is nicer out of three

[@lenardf.1683]

Wow thanks for this Video! Will you do a Video on the draeden, the ancient evils etc that were there before every thing else?

[@AJPickett]

Seems to be a popular demand for it.

[@sickofwashington]

All the spidery things leading to the Queen herself! 😊🤓🕷

[@TheHornedKing]

When he hasn't even said the "grab a bewerage" line, and already you have to pause the video to absorb what you've just been told. On another note, I really wanna play a cleric of Eilistraee in a campaign centered around Lolth now.

[@FromAgonyToLight]

Absolutely amazing. I wish they would make a 3.5 or pathfinder remaster of the mega module and the demonweb pits into an epic level 20+ sandbox adventure. Can't stand 5e personally, but if it was ever remade they would do it in 5e sadly. Thank you so much for the read!

[@stunity1767]

Thanks AJ. Loving all these spider videos.

[@delenaa9312]

Oh can you talk about all the layers of the nine hell and the layers of abyss

[@AJPickett]

Its a big task I am working on gradually.

[@erickhart8046]

Ooh the dark web.

[@fistimusmaximus6576]

So im interested in the link three Elder Elemental Gods, one as Vilp-akf'cho on Oerth, one as Ghaunadaur on Toril, and a third, unknown and unnamed Elder Elemental God and Tharizdun...now you say lolth stumbled onto this connection...could they be pieces of tharizdun that where scattered and developed into deities in their own right?

[@AJPickett]

Aspects of him, yes.

[@fistimusmaximus6576]

surely when she became a god again it would hamper her ambition as you are constrained by laws set by Ao so have less interaction with the physical plane. Explains why Acererak never decided to follow vecna's example.

[@AJPickett]

Ao only restricts activity in Realmspace.

[@fistimusmaximus6576]

@@AJPickett true but say her avatar appeared the enemies would counter say like happened with tiamat.

[@fistimusmaximus6576]

@@AJPickett I should have mentioned possibly the other gods would intervene to stop the imbalance.

[@AshersAesera]

3:26 Wait, where can I learn more of the celestials becoming devils? o _ o Do you have a video on that?

[@bayoubilly5176]

To be fair if we're talking faerun after war of the spider queen... Lolth kicked Ghaunadar several times mocked him for being a mewling whiny jealous simp then as he spazzed tossed him back to his hole and sealed it shut.(much like the eiliastrean(sp?) priestesses did to his oozes and avatar).

[@jacobfreeman5444]

Which shows you how brave the spider queen is. Ghaunadar is stronger than she is then and now. It is her skill that won her that exchange and some measure of respect from the ancient being. Lolth shows how savvy she is in mocking a superior opponent into throwing such a shiz fit that he couldn't extract himself before ruining himself. She did the godly version of giving a big greesy nerd a nuclear wedgie then laughed while he soiled himself.

[@trajanfidelis1532]

How can a shard of tharizdun exist outside his prison?

[@AJPickett]

An aspect of a god is like a presence of that god in another dimension, so, it is possible for one to be separated from the rest, particularly if very powerful and immortal.

[@HowtoRPG]

Thanks AJ.

[@Arius_Astronomy]

Imagine if your character is an arachnophobe but HAS to explore this layer. Also, who wants to explore the Abyss?

[@Im-Not-a-Dog]

They'd go catatonic from pure fear after realizing where they were, then would quickly be either taken prisoner and tormented or, if they're lucky, killed and eaten outright.

[@teddys5775]

@@Im-Not-a-Dog when you’re an arachnophob and the best case scenario is being eaten by a giant spider

[@Arius_Astronomy]

@@teddys5775 *Welp guess I'll die*

[@iainzo7]

Please do more of those encounters. They are really interesting. I'd love to play in this setting. I'd love a 5e module of it

[@professorsponge1554]

Praise the Elder Eye. My favorite god in FR Minor thing to add: I love Hackmaster's take on Lolth's fall. That there were 2 races of elves that turned on the Seldarine. The elves who ran undergroung and became the drow, and the ones that stayed above to continue the fight called the barbaric Grel, or Grunge Elves.

[@samuelciprispuches9548]

Beautiful video! As always I should say. Can you do a video on Ghaunadaur? I would like to know more about this sneaky god

[@jonmichael6746]

AJ, random question I've been meaning to ask you, have you ever done a video about the Girallon?

[@AJPickett]

Not yet

[@jonmichael6746]

@@AJPickett YET!