Dungeons & Dragons - Episode 22 - The Dungeon at the Heart of Dawn

[@jodejack]

This cartoon was legendary. Loved this episode as a kid and it freaked me out. The one time I saw Dungeon master get pissed.

[@DJDizzyStorms]

I didnt notice that but what I noticed was since Dungeon Maser obviously has kids it must be possible that Zandora is his wife & a Dungeon Mistress.

[@brianpeck2694]

yepper he was def irritated wtih Hank the "Ranger"

[@Interfaune]

"Come on, Dungeon Master! Who is it? Or... or what is it?" "His name is not for a Saturday morning cartoon, barbarian..."

[@geraldbrice3878]

So do you know what channel is it if you know please tell me

[@seven0929]

66 likes on this comment, I'm scared

[@seananderson4525]

@@geraldbrice3878 this cartoon aired on Saturday mornings on CBS back in the 80s. I loved watching this cartoon as a kid

[@christopherclark8788]

I think it was Asmodeus

[@buckster2575]

30 + years later this cartoon is still awesome

[@edsonribeiro4829]

I agree 🔥👌🏼

[@john-rossevering5370]

Yes

[@EricT3769]

Absolutely!

[@slizzardshroomer9666]

It's pretty ordinary. Nothing setting it apart from other cartoons at the time.

[@buckster2575]

@@slizzardshroomer9666 you must be a millennial.

[@TraciPeteyforlife]

When the nine hells or the abyss open you run. Even Venger knew better! Elder Evils are not to be fucked with.

[@e-man1634]

This and the dragons graveyard were two of the best episodes

[@EricT3769]

Definitely!

[@Maxshade7]

This is the scariest episode..

[@papahudz69]

You said it buddy. Talk about a no win situation at the beginning

[@THE_MAQ355]

Yeah hands down..!!

[@stephenmcgorrin6907]

One off the best in it watch the last episode made at last on u tub

[@PozerAdultRacingTeam]

It's pretty good.

[@VITAS874]

Lovecraft is good book.

[@kilroy987]

This episode has such production values. A sense of urgency, strong characterizations and voice acting, and the animation to go with them - even the music timing is some places is so effective. Real effort was put into this show from all involved when the episode design was well aligned. The animation of Venger's intro, the music as Bobby is burying the box, Eric feeling the weight of Dungeon Master when he reappears, Sheila calling out to Dungeon Master at the end, the wind reversing as Dungeon Master emerges. All wonderful. When I saw this episode a second time, I realized how much was packed into it - it was impossible to recollect it all from the first time.

[@RainerLuizFonseca]

This is one of, if not the scariest episode of the show. If you think about it, it seems to have been inspired by Locevraftian work: an ancient, multi-dimensional evil so powerful that it's beyond human comprehension. You can't speak his name. You can't look at it without going mad (though Eric did haha). That's pure cosmic horror and I don't think it's a coincidence.

[@henrysalami7593]

I recall this as being one of the scariest d&d episodes .. perhaps too much for little viewers and also feared looking at his face! I was fearful of this storyline as a child

[@WesterosWolf]

Great episode for a series that merges life lessons plus mythic, philosophical, religious and historical allusions. The Box of Balefire is an intriguing reference to Pandora's Jar and the Nameless One both the metaphysical and demon being common in many legends- the threat to civilization the heroes have to defeat and in doing so make paramount decisions to save it and their comrades.

[@karabrice]

There is an even more overt reference in "The Box" with Zandora.

[@rossh7186]

One thing I'd like to add - "Dungeon at the Heart of Dawn" is an amazingly arresting episode title. Pure poetry.

[@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812]

Sounds like a Star Trek title from the original series

[@Dizzy247365plus]

"But I have NOT FAILED!! I have earned NO PUNISHMENT!!!" When Venger's crying like a bitch...u KNOW ur in trouble! This was the season 3 premiere of Dungeons& Dragons--& they came out swinging!! I remember this episode so vividly from my childhood. It had the weight & feel of THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK. Fantastic script that led to fantastic vocal performances from just about every member of this extraordinary cast!

[@WizelBalan]

Tells you how strong that entity is, DM used up all his power and the 300-year charge of the magic weapons in a few seconds, and it barely slowed that thing down.

[@stuartburns8657]

Very good point yes

[@pedrourbano501]

Also, let's not forget that Venger was able to hurt Tiamat while using their power, even when they were just about completely spent, so those weapons are no joke but it was like nothing to the nameless one.

[@CommodoreGT]

This has always been my favorite episode. The urgency and dread at the beginning is done so well. And I absolutely love the way they animated the scene when dungeon master uses the kids weapons to launch a defense against the evils attack! First beam fight I ever saw, long before DBZ came along. So dramatic! Visually, it really showed how powerful this evil being was.

[@DarthSironos]

3:13 and 5:48 man, Even LOTR didn't have sound effects this evil, love it!

[@jaredelizardo201]

Question who's LOTR DarthSironos.

[@philevans6935]

@@jaredelizardo201 Lord Of The Rings

[@navilluscire2567]

10:22 This show really knew how to make the magic feel awesome and yet strangely...'80's-ish', like a rock concert with one hell of a pyrotechnics budget! XD

[@themonk2288]

This terrified me as a child because it emcompassed what I always thought, would happen if the Devil was Rral and manifested on Earth, I was 7 years old at the time... Nightmares. And it was on a TV Kids Cartoon, No Voice no Body, just Dread Unending and Boiling Malevolence

[@kilroy987]

When I first saw this I was 17. I was concerned that some kids would think this represents reality. I thought it was a bit extreme to characterize this being as a ruler of many universes.

[@RainerLuizFonseca]

@@kilroy987 this episode is terrifying for kids. It's pure cosmic horror, with clear references to HP Lovecraft's work. You can think of the "thing" as the devil, but this is not related to the bible at all.

[@jaredelizardo201]

@@kilroy987 Well that's your opinion He was Literally a Hugh Fucking Tornado Bru

[@brianbearco]

one of my favs! love this show. still do, 30 years later.

[@scottmahoney1230]

Even Venger's ghostly face is whiter with fear when Shadow demon announced that the Nameless One arrival.

[@brianpeck2694]

I loved this from 1983-1985 great cartoon. I have seen all 26 episodes at least 2-3 times! Also some great sound effects!!

[@U2QuoZepplin]

Dungeon Master says you must not look upon his face and what does Eric do ; he only goes and looks it/ him square in the face ! 🤣🤣.

[@thecappeningchannel515]

The balls on that guy!

[@BenDaresAll]

Absolutely terrifying episode! They had no hope of winning. If the Nameless One didn't leave on his own, they'd be slaughtered.

[@dansby37]

They would need the help of the Almighty One to defeat the Nameless One.

[@DeadDevilDying]

Yeah, but it begs the question of WHY he left, what did he just go, "Meh, I'm bored now, put everything back the way it was." and leave?

[@BenDaresAll]

@@DeadDevilDying the land was still desolate tho.

[@Eric.1I37]

@@DeadDevilDying It is not omnipresent, it has other realms to rule and subjugate. It wants the entire cosmos, it thinks it can rule everything. It can not. To rule everything you have to be everything. Then you would not be one, but all and lose what made you one.

[@Orphus]

Due to an ancient pact, the Nameless One can only inhabit a world his herald has not claimed for a few hours after the box of Balefire is opened. If he destroys the chosen champions of the world in that time, the world is his. If he cannot, he is driven out for a millennium until the Balefire is ready again. Well, that's my version.

[@mrwill1779]

"Never abandon your leadership "life long lesson

[@henrysalami7593]

"Or your hope"

[@DV80s]

Never send kids to do something world-ending without telling them what's at stake, DM. Don't blame them for your failures afterward.

[@richardhaynes3925]

A line full of wisdom

[@DJDizzyStorms]

I get it The Nameless One is supposed to be Venger's master since that's who made him who he was & he had turned his back on Dungeon Master because he wanted power & he felt like he wasn't getting what he wanted with DM so he had no choice but to seek out The Nameless one, But Dungeon Master made a vow to never give up on his son which is why he needed help in bringing him back which explains where the kids came in.

[@mbuckley3828]

You'd think Dungeon Master would learn his lesson by now that Eric will always do the opposite of what he says. "Don't look at the Nameless One's face." All of them should have turned towards Eric at that point. "You hear that Eric?"

[@silky_merkin]

6:43 Venger: "So anyway, I started blasting."

[@imgayareyou]

It really killed me when at 20:18 Dungeon Master tells them, "prepare yourselves, my children" and I remembered that *spoiler* Venger is really Dungeon Master's son, so even though DM is mostly referring to the kids as a term of endearment, he is also referring to his actual son. After he tells them that there is a clip of them getting ready to fight and it shows some of the gang as well as Venger. Some foreshadowing perhaps? (Seeing as they didn't actually release the relationship of Venger and DM at this point, I like to interpret it that way.) It is also a little humorous when you think of it as a father-son relationship when Venger calls Dungeon Master "old man" at 20:37.

[@lokithecat7225]

Episode 20, 20:40 DM says to Venger "Rise my son" as he helps him stand.

[@flavioluizdiassouza1758]

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[@seananderson4525]

@@lokithecat7225 I just finished watching that episode, and I noticed that. When I used to watch this show as a kid, I didn't think anything of it. I figured he was just saying it as an older person would say to someone younger. Now that I know that Veanger is his actual son.....

[@jaredelizardo201]

@@seananderson4525 true and turned too the dark side just like Han's son Ben aka Kailo ren

[@stuartburns8657]

That's a good point Tenor.

[@SpreadingtheMuse]

6:45 Someone should do a count on how many castles Venger has lost by now. He lost several in the first season alone so he has to be running low.

[@jackjackson4543]

This is Satan / Lucifer .... the evil of many worlds. It's one the darkest episodes , yet I would have loved to seen more characters return .. Zandora , Deckion , the celestial knight , Martha and any other characters who helped them.. even Vengor getting Karina , and any of his followers to aid together with the children to save the realm from the nameless one.. even Tiamet .... would really built this even a a good two part episode ...

[@TraciPeteyforlife]

jackjackson 4 That would have been cool. Then we could have seen Tiamats God form.

[@navilluscire2567]

late reply But yeah for an old 80's cartoon set in a dnd-esque world it had a suprising amount of great and memorable, one-off characters that I would've actually liked to have seen made reappearance! Maybe have alot of these originally episodic characters seen both in cameos and even brief scenes interacting with the main cast, y'know for that juicy continuity! *I would've loved to see a return of Lorn, Eric's one true friend he made in the dnd-esque realm along with his adopted tribesmen, especially that that sweet woman whom stood up for Lorn. (forgot her name, if she even was named..)* P.S. I also would've liked to have seen a return of that man who acted as a father figure to the main characters, the kids, he seemed like a wise and kind person! (also forgot his name..)

[@RainerLuizFonseca]

This is in no way related to the bible. This whole episode is pure cosmic horror, a clear reference to H.P Lovecraft's work.

[@sirellyn]

It's likely Tharizdun if Gary Gygax was involved in this.

[@corjonbett]

It wouldn't hve worked. Tjhe Nameless One can destroy entire realms at a whim if it suits it. By that logic, eve if every powerful creature in the Realm had stood against it, it would have wiped them all out instantaneously. When Dungeon Master decides running is the only answer, you KNOW you're in deep hooey!

[@U2QuoZepplin]

Bobby using the only genuinely offensive weapon in the kids’ arsenal . There is Hank’s bow but that doesn’t always prove very effective.

[@humbaba2762]

i remember this cartoon vaguely from my childhood because i watched only one or maybe two episodes but as an adult i m still enjoying to watching this. it s kind of nice surprise for me.

[@sjbro1000]

My all-time favorite Saturday morning cartoon episode!!😎

[@VeritechGirl]

5:51 when you're so scared your eyeballs start twitching in their sockets !

[@veronicahispana]

This episode scared me as a kid, but I still thought it was awesome. My opinion hasn't changed. :)

[@SodaPopinksi]

Best episode, dragon's graveyard a close second.

[@terrybeal2252]

You know you're in deep shit when EVERYONE including the Dungeon Master gets their asses kicked! 😬

[@themonk2288]

06:40 #ShadowDemon ... A True Friend

[@BlackburnBigdragon]

The unwritten rule number one of D&D is "NEVER SPLIT THE PARTY!!!". It's a cardinal rule that they break right from the very beginning and keep doing through the whole episode! Haha!!!

[@joshuaclabeaux1470]

Yeah, and you see what happens, right?

[@VITAS874]

Thats why solo party. In nwn 😂

[@pedrourbano501]

Technically they didn't split because they wanted, they needed to help dungeon master to have any chance of winning so they didn't have time to rescue anyone.

[@DV80s]

Michael Reaves wrote a real stinker with this episode.

[@travisdonaldstanley6420]

​@@DV80s It had potential, but I didn't care much for it.

[@heruapocalypse2021]

This Episode really Scared 😨 The Mess out of Me like nothing ever before in My Young life during that time.

[@johnetheridge5833]

I’m 60 years old and i love watching cartoons .

[@beauferret5414]

10:10 Eric just looked into the eyes of evil.

[@manofsan]

I thought Evil would have a scarier face than that - his body looked scarier

[@VITAS874]

Even monsters better draw that in newdays.

[@Nunya_Bidness_53]

This is probably their best episode. Very close second, the one where they almost kill Venger but think better of it.

[@manofsan]

*That's a damn flimsy box, for something that can summon the worst evil in the universe. Dungeon Master could've given a little heads up warning, like he usually does.* 🤔

[@DV80s]

Blame Michael Reaves and his crappy writing.

[@travisdonaldstanley6420]

​@@DV80s Michael did a poor job this time. I usually like his work.

[@FrozenVaIkyrie]

Dungeon Master: It's too powerfull. I can't stop him. Young me: YOU ARE THE FREAKING DM! 😵‍💫

[@FrozenVaIkyrie]

Do you know what a joke is dude?

[@SunnyTacos]

When you walk into the secret boss under leveled.

[@VITAS874]

Eye of beholder game 😂

[@nateescobales6930]

15:12 Nice memory...real neat on the nostalgic, referencing.

[@willanderson716]

This was the best episode ever.... I woke up one morning and it was most dire... No quarter asked... No quarter given... Old DM wasn't playing any of his regular cat N mouse games either! I was dialed in from 9 to 930!

[@mac9061]

This is my favorite episode

[@ninedragons1]

Me thinks I should get to work on some 'D&D the cartoon series' action figures. I think somebody will want some.

[@presidentsnow7315]

You think correctly.....

[@radiofiendify]

A Venger action figure would be pretty damn awesome 😜

[@trunks9296]

This was my favorite episode...

[@r2roger]

Dormammu...I've come to bargain.

[@jamesmartin4857]

Eric never gave him permission to open the box

[@jimbobeire]

Dungeon Master seemed to gloss over the fact that he sent a teenager and an even younger kid to retrieve a dangerous box without giving them any safety warnings.

[@DV80s]

@@jimbobeire Yep, the fault falls on Michael Reaves. Crappy writing on his part. Terrible episode.

[@antoniusbritannia8217]

Knock the lock off? Knock the lock off? You have a two rogues in your party and neither thought pick locks was a useful skill to have? SMH

[@theodorecarter6601]

1:56 you guys can’t tell me that Hank and Sheila don’t like each other.

[@thecappeningchannel515]

Probably just banged, is that what you mean? 😮

[@drewcounts4238]

I’m 32 years old and I still love this show

[@nateescobales6930]

13:29 Oh hey, Venger ain't dead after all.

[@hrtreaper72]

At 10:46 did anyone notice either a city or the remains of an amusement park?

[@jimslav6973]

Incredibly bleak episode! Builds your expectations until you're ready for anything. Then you remember you're watching an 80's Saturday morning cartoon. But for a second there, this episode had a palpable horror and suspense we wouldn't experience in a cartoon again until Batman: The Animated Series.

[@petercampi2840]

+Jim Slav Actually it'd be even earlier than that: Spiral Zone in 1987.

[@MephProduction]

@ Maybe they have poor eye sight? if so it's easier to type with caps. Dickhead.

[@AlvaroChuquiureZadig]

Best episode ever!!

[@brianbearco]

I agree

[@gainthailand]

Made me think of Venger as Sauron and nameless one as Morgoth.

[@TheEyez187]

Good call! :D Most people think Sauron is utter evil (they're not wrong), but as bad as he was, he was only a Lieutenant In the real evil guys (Melkor/Morgoth) regime. The third age had it easy, a Balrog here, a dragon there, a large spider elsewhere, try first age evil madness with Balrogs riding dragons and Ungoliant, a spider big enough to make shelob look like a money spider! :D Silmarillion and Unfinished Tales rule. Tolkien is the Eru Illuvavtar of the D&D world :D True fans know! :D

[@gainthailand]

Noah Body What is the name of the new book? Thx bro.

[@VITAS874]

​@@TheEyez187thanks to professor. We have dnd

[@TheEyez187]

@@VITAS874 Thnx to the Woke they're ruining it! :(

[@davidkoudelka10]

@@TheEyez187 Don't forget Ancalagon the Black, a dragon so big its wingspan were MILES LONG!!!! (some say over 10 miles in fact!) Along with the Nameless Ones, which could be considered post-Lovecraft cosmic horror (though probably unintentional on Tolkien's part)

[@Blitzwing39]

If the Nameless One is the true definition of Evil. I wonder who's the rival that defines Good that can match him and live to tell the tale?

[@corjonbett]

There is none. Evil does not require god to combat it, but sadly, the same cannot be said vice-versa. Good must always be balanced by Evil, but Evil does not always need to be balanced by good. The Nameless One is dewstined to destroy everything in its path, to return all to nothing.

[@heruapocalypse2021]

@@corjonbett You've just said a very Huge Thing here.

[@wiglafsfilms8418]

Galactus. Why not?! The better of 2 evils!?

[@VITAS874]

Tiamat can

[@soundwarehouse9524]

This was my fav cartoon as a kid by far, the story line would make a great 🎬

[@marlawhite1430]

One of my favorite episodes! Love the sacrifices everybody made to save the othersl

[@Deined]

16:34 I always thought that this shriek/growl/whatever was pretty unnerving. I believe it's first heard in the first G.I. Joe episodes, when the Joes and Cobra face off against similar worm-like creatures deep underwater.

[@kwhite2538]

Wonder would Peter Cullen what to do another few seasons of Dundgeons and Dragons-

[@deyran]

I never saw Dungeon Master spend much time with them

[@mikedski9698]

You are stripped of your evil powers, Venger!

[@nomadkaiser]

Tiamat wouldn't have a chance against the who's name cannot be spoken.

[@tonycampbell4982]

Timat would laugh at the nameless one🎉

[@danivarius]

You have to admit, Dungeon Master put up one heck of a struggle against the nameless one… far more than Venger! Shows how powerful he is, himself!

[@jimmycooper5888]

You got to love Ralph

[@jimmycooper5888]

Happy day's are here again

[@kenyattasimpson8468]

Crazy how bobby the baby of the family had twin bravery like Hank and his older sister Sheila couldn't stop him

[@Office_De_Receiver_Complaints]

If you look hard when they board the coaster during the intro, you can see Stan Lee in line.

[@nicolajohnson1887]

This episode is probably in the top 5 for the series, But the dragons graveyard is still the best episode, the fan made finale would he number one but some of the voice acting isn't quite right for obvious reasons.

[@stealthninja5]

At around 16:09 was when this episode which was both recorded onto VHS tape and dubbed in Korean got cut off while I was watching as if the tape had reeled its last and had to be fully rewinded back to the beginning! 😵 But now by watching this full episode, I'm finally able to see how this episode ends.

[@TheCycloneTrooper]

Fckin A - loved this episode, remembered it after 20+ years still, such a memory this one. The Nameless One is such as bad-ass \m/

[@PlexusCaeruleum]

Ok, this is pretty much Azathoth they're dealing with here.

[@zachmcmillan4060]

Dr Shrekyll Beans Wow,now that's an elder God if I've ever seen one!

[@jasoncaldwell5627]

We desperately need a new D&D series that continues this one. Set it on Netflix and maybe five years after this series, so the teens are all early 20's and have mastered their weapons and become legendary.

[@navilluscire2567]

@TET - COM With the relative great success of the new Voltron cartoon I'd say it's the perfect time to try out a rebooted version of this dnd-esque cartoon series, maybe more of a soft reboot. Like have all the first 27 episodes be remained into a more 'morden' take of older, 80's cartoons (accompanied by much 'smother' and clean-ish animation) with almost the same plots from the originals (some of the episodes I'd love to see redone in a modern style!) but...the catch being that this version would be allowed to tread darker waters (there were quite a few dark moments all ready and even more implied heavier stuff as well) while still retaining much of that charming cheesy-ness we all love! (it was the 80's after all..) In fact the 28th episode was set to be the darkest one to that date, were the main cast, a gang of tired, angry and homesick kids were fed up with Venger and dungeon master and were even going to try and kill Venger, ending his reign of terror once and for all but would in the end decided to show mercy. I think a modern 'soft' rebooted dnd cartoon would really do well, let's hope one day soon-ish someone will pick this up and make a classic out of it I know I'd watch it!

[@presidentsnow7315]

@TET - COM I agree. The writing would have to stay the same but I doubt that would happen. Some SJW agenda would be pushed. They'd probably make some of the characters gay or trans or something.

[@PlexusCaeruleum]

Actually on second thought, it's Hastur the yellow king. He's sometimes called he who must not be named, and if Azathoth were awake he would wind up destroying the universe.

[@hollywoodpmillz5383]

Fucking classic hands down best 80s cartoon fucking classic

[@originaluddite]

This gets me wondering what, out-of-story, is more powerful than a table-top DM?

[@liemdang298]

his/her spouse saying it time to break it up... dinner is ready.. :D

[@jasonhaynes1838]

The only thing that Venger is afraid of is TiaMat the dragon.. For Venger to be afraid of something ,you know that it's pretty Grimm.

[@jaredelizardo201]

Yes but he call that demon master as in his Big key word Big Boss

[@abdulmuhammad-wc9do]

Amen bro, you know a series is built different when other villians are even worse then the main antagonist.

[@TheGrapeFairie]

In which Eric summons Nyarlathotep and then later faces a shoggoth. Without going completly insane.

[@corjonbett]

Only one explanation: He's too stupid. You can't lose what you never had to begin with!

[@davidkoudelka10]

@@corjonbett In Call of Cthulhu rpg, stupidity can actually be considered a boon, as you have far more Sanity (aka being more grounded to our reality) while those highly educated or deal with the occult have less Sanity (as eith this leads them to start seeing the "Truth" or realizing their basic principles of reality mean little to what lies beyond)

[@pedrourbano501]

​@@davidkoudelka10you know I never got that concept of something being so out of this world that we mean nothing to it, like ok, so what does that affect in my life? I'll still live and die and I can do nothing to that thing so why should I even care something so big and powerful exists since I can't do anything anyway.

[@kennethdemuchest3985]

I must have missed this one never seen it.

[@teknogothyk]

I would love to see an updated D&D cartoon, but have the characters jump from D&D world to D&D world while trying to get home "Where are we now?!" "You're on the Demiplane of Dread, Cavalier!" "Well, fuck."

[@presidentsnow7315]

If they updated this cartoon today, they would probably just use it to push some SJW agenda.

[@teknogothyk]

@@presidentsnow7315 That's pretty jaded.

[@VITAS874]

​@@presidentsnow7315true

[@philswiftdestroyerofworlds1988]

@@presidentsnow7315 True indeed

[@stuartburns8657]

​@@teknogothyk He's right sadly. Looking back, would the original series benefit from lesbian lovers, and a transgender Hank. Would it be more empowering? No. That's why every recent movie or TV series is a flop, or massively undermined by sjw and gender identity nonsense

[@Cynidecia]

they summoned basically Satan. thats scary.

[@GAURAV-TAK]

I watching it after 20 years.

[@migcasas1]

The Nameless One is either an Obyrith or one of the Lovecraftian Elder Evil.

[@davidkoudelka10]

The Obyrinths deserve more attention!😞 And yeah, anyone making an adventure based off of the series could easily rebrand The Nameless One as either the former or an Elder Evil.

[@davidmccormick6975]

i thought they could of made this episode better.by getting all the characters zandora tiamet vengers sister karina n the rings etc.n even the other amulets in the dragons graveyeard to have a final battle against the being out the box.with dungeon master venger n the pupils aswell.

[@darktrooper2099]

FULL & TOTAL KUDOS TO YOU DAVE!!!!!!!!Couldn't agree with you more!

[@kilroy987]

I would have been sad to see Tiamat batted around by this thing.

[@joshuaclabeaux1470]

@@kilroy987 I don't know; Tiamat is a goddess, and a primordial one at that, I bet she might stand a chance against this "nameless evil".

[@VITAS874]

​@@kilroy987she is god. She can win

[@kimopuppy]

I miss this show

[@navilluscire2567]

*A bit of a LATE repost but...* With the relative great success of the new Voltron cartoon I'd say it's the perfect time to try out a rebooted version of this dnd-esque cartoon series, maybe more of a soft reboot. Like have all the first 27 episodes be remained into a more 'morden' take of older, 80's cartoons (accompanied by much 'smother' and clean-ish animation) with almost the same plots from the originals (some of the episodes I'd love to see redone in a modern style!) but...the catch being that this version would be allowed to tread darker waters (there were quite a few dark moments all ready and even more implied heavier stuff as well) while still retaining much of that charming cheesy-ness we all love! (it was the 80's after all..) In fact the 28th episode was set to be the darkest one to that date, were the main cast, a gang of tired, angry and homesick kids were fed up with Venger and dungeon master and were even going to try and kill Venger, ending his reign of terror once and for all but would in the end decided to show mercy. I think a modern 'soft' rebooted dnd cartoon would really do well, let's hope one day soon-ish someone will pick this up and make a classic out of it I know I'd watch it!

[@nateescobales6930]

5:23 Silly!? Is he cracked to the brim!??

[@BYERE]

So, a question comes to mind... Venger has obviously been to the Underworld before, having enslaved Uugar (sp?) and his people. So it begs the question, after the end of the episode, when Venger is at full strength again, why doesn’t he travel back to the Underworld and travel to the Heart of Dawn (now that he knows the way), and drink from it. That would likely give him a massive boost of power, and could easily take on the pupils afterwards. A few counterpoints: His travel there drained him - Only because he was protecting himself and Shadow Demon from imminent obliteration. Under less pressure, transporting himself there wouldn’t be an issue. The Heart of Dawn is depleted - Certainly a possibility, and something that tremendous would take a long time to recharge, if it wasn’t a one-off like the Hall of Bones.

[@gstringalation]

Most magic has to be restored and has a usage limit

[@Dan261178]

I`m a little late here I know but its possible that the Heart of Dawn doesnt boost a persons power it just replenishes it to the level it was previously at before they were drained so it wouldnt have any effect on a full powered Venger.On an unrelated note I cant believe people didnt give credit to Venger for bringing Shadow Demon along with him,most evil characters would have just saved themselves and let their minions fend for themselves.Shows once again that Venger does have a certain honour about him.

[@BYERE]

@@Dan261178 It's certainly possible that it would just be a full restore, but that honestly seems like a bit lackluster. Why then would Dungeon Master be willing to try to take on The Nameless One after a little refill, when he was so scared before, and didn't think they had a chance even with the combined strength of his power and all their weapons? I definitely agree with you on Venger having a certain amount of honour. He is Dungeon Master's son, after all... I'd say he's Lawful Evil, rather than Chaotic Evil. We saw that after to destruction of Demodragon, where despite likely knowing that Presto had nothing to do with the victory, he accepted that balance had been restored (Venger being the one who screwed up by creating/freeing Demodragon), and parted amicably, despite how he could've just ordered his orc horde to capture the kids and take the weapons right there and then. As for protecting Shadow Demon... good minions are hard to find, so a good evil overlord makes sure to protect a valued worker :P

[@Dan261178]

@@BYERE All excellent points that,I admit I hadn’t considered :-)

[@DV80s]

Crappy writing by Michael Reaves. Making up BS as he goes along.

[@nateescobales6930]

11:26 Dead!? Like...Venger?

[@markwatson5763]

Dungen master said don't look at him and what does Eric do... Looks at him. We never see that guy again... pity. It might have been a good episode.

[@lampshade8818]

From 20:00 Dungeon Master gets everyone together, but they get together on his command after he says so- but he doesn't realise that and makes comment on them doing so just a little before they actually do.

[@darktrooper2099]

Yeah,so?

[@VeritechGirl]

Favorite episode next to Dragons Graveyard

[@nateescobales6930]

6:14 So...Venger has a master?

[@WizelBalan]

Venger basically made a deal with the devil for power, it is what transformed him into what he is now. He used to be a good wizard named Merlin.

[@xCoatlicuex]

@@WizelBalan He used to be a good wizard but not Merlin, Venger is dungeon master son.

[@devertonpasley4942]

I hated Shadow Demon as a Kid. Such a spy...

[@tonycampbell4982]

Am i the only one wanting to know the pull out scene at the very end what is it reference to?

[@travisdonaldstanley6420]

Wow! The DM is actually helping them, for real.

[@cmcjss]

Incredible

[@ankeshDr.]

It was the most intense episode

[@debasishdas6784]

Plz add all episodes