Dunkirk (IMAX) - First dogfight

[@donbismo]

I just loved how they communicate at each other, no screaming no acting like a tough guy, just pure clear and calm speaking even at the worst situation, they've nailed it right there

[@nocturnalrecluse1216]

Very realistic.

[@Harvin87]

British understatement culture at its finest.

[@LarryWater]

Soldiers are taught to stay calm in stressful situation.

[@missingthe80s58]

They cussed up a storm. They yelled. Many were restrained and in hunter mode. Not all did. The ladies at fighter direction control heard it all. I believe the ladies and their testimony over a movie.

[@MarcosBGoularte]

Why the heck they would scream??

[@AllahHuSnackbar]

No cheesy, epic music. No fast cuts of planes swooping by each other, barrel rolling and spinning. No wilhelm screams or lazy battle dialogue. Though it only really involves three planes, this is my favorite dog fight ever captured for cinema.

[@okedoke1234]

Finally someone appreciates greatness. Agree totally! Many people on here apparently love the bloated disgusting CGI fests known as "Pearl harbor" or "Red Tails"

[@flyingboi890]

Exactly hahaha felt more intense too

[@spurgear4]

I have been a pilot and an aircraft mechanic for the last 30 years. This feels like the most honest and realistic portrayal of what it was like. Anyone who has flown I think would agree.

[@luis-il2fl]

Rogue One has a better dog fight

[@redcardinalist]

I regret I disagree. "Bandit 11 o'clock" who just flies over and past the Spitfire without attacking. I'm afraid I snoozed through this. Posibly the most dull and boringly filmed air combat scene in a film. I don't care frankly whether this is "realistic" or not (and imo it isn't), I want something that's dramatic and this isn't it sadly.

[@Warrior_of_Sparta]

The sound quality in this film is incredible

[@hughedgar541]

I agree. Getting goosebumps from the engine notes

[@soldat2501]

The creaking of the ailerons and aluminum in high G turns - no one has ever bothered to do that in a movie.

[@soldat2501]

Actually most of it wasn't. A two second search would have showed you that. But I know that's not how people present themselves on the internet these days. kzbin.info/www/bejne/faishoR7pquImLM www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2017/07/28/how-christopher-nolan-shot-those-amazing-aerial-dunkirk-dogfights/513407001/ warbirdsnews.com/warbirds-news/dunkirk.html

[@soldat2501]

Why would Tim Nolan fly in those planes? I am guessing he flew in the chase planes but he's not an actor, he was the director. I'll help you out as it's obvious you never bothered to watch or read the links: "Shooting the furious flying action with real planes, often over the location of the pivotal Battle of Dunkirk, was challenging enough without computer effects or green-screen technology." Three actual WWII era Spitfires and two Spanish "BF 109" copies were used as well as scale models that flew. They used a Russian two-seater trainer to get close up, outside shots while flying in dogfight maneuvers. I am not sure what you're looking for here, actual combat where they shoot each other down? Yeah, that's not going to happen so yes, you're going to get some cinematographic/trick photography and mock combat. You can keep your BJ though, I don't think Tim Nolan is interested.

[@josedominguez26]

Milander just milander who the fuck is Tim Nolan lol. And no, that is not how they filmed this scene.

[@kwaaaa]

This scene is the definition of "less is more". No choppy cut, blaring music, wild chase and unlimited ammo. Just the low rumbling and raw feel that makes it so realistic, as if we're witnessing the real thing.

[@NobleRaider2747]

This IS a Hollywood film...​@@notgadot

[@notgadot]

Dunkirk is all about British soldiers

[@NobleRaider2747]

@@notgadot still made by a big Hollywood studio, Warner Bros

[@nickbuckley4371]

Show dont tell is perfection for any nonfiction movie

[@notgadot]

@@NobleRaider2747 but it took places in europe

[@MrPhenom444]

This scene was a damn treat in IMAX

[@redhotchilifan98]

MrPhenom444 I saw it in theatres but not Imax I'm still so bummed about it lol

[@Six1Nine8Six]

Everything about this movie was a treat, but hearing the Spitfire engines, the Stuka sirens, explosions, and bullet richochets in IMAX was probably one of the best cinematic experiences I have ever had.

[@mattastro4839]

Lol I nearly shit my pants in the IMAX when the bullets unexpectedly hit the first spitfire

[@Mgbn78]

Matthew-Chad Nelson aha yeah same with the opening scene. Everyone shit themselves when the first shot was fired

[@PuddintameXYZ]

I know. I was legitimately so loud that I wanted to run from the theater. I was sweating by the end of it.

[@michelmaxed]

I like how the Nazis were portrayed. Not as the typical Fritz but as an enemy who strikes fast and is terrifying. No face whatsoever, only airplanes and gunshots.

[@whyisthefbihere7742]

If I recall they only say ‘Germans’ once. The rest of the movie they refer to them as ‘the enemy’. Not really realistic but it does help to leave politics out of the movie and focus on the event.

[@strategyking549]

@@peterw3544 "elite" my dude they recruited kids to fly on the He-163 Volksjaeger

[@Lewakaassemme]

@@peterw3544 Sure, all of them Nazis. Maybe go educate yourself. Wars are possible because of people of your attitude, demonize a whole nation and kill all of them, yeah, all of them Nazis.

[@mjhmab]

I find it really annoying and politicaly correct that they didnt mention germany or the nazis .

[@yaz2928]

@@mjhmab Then you're just stupid. Only politically correct movies call them nazis. Dunkirk bravely referred to them as the "enemy".

[@LankyKong-b7d]

He's on me i'm on him

[@TheWelchProductions]

gay

[@sarikatimmi]

mr_moon_is_boss best line

[@jayceecampos6736]

mr_moon_is_boss mark left on my count 3.......2........1 break

[@Sconi71]

Poxow You must be a german pilot.

[@TheWelchProductions]

Nein

[@themegaforce810]

The vibration noise of the aircraft inside the cockpit was incredibly realistic. The best portrayal of WWII air combat I’ve seen in a film.

[@okedoke1234]

We need more WWII from Christopher Nolan!!

[@atch300]

@@okedoke1234 Oppenheimer is cooking

[@swastikdas9687]

it is maybe the noise of the imax camera used to shoot the film

[@alejandro3282]

​@@atch300Let him cook...

[@swastikdas9687]

oh... nice@@themegaforce810

[@Draggis92]

I could watch an entire movie with only dogfighting

[@dariuspk2850]

Frederik if my dreams of a certain film i wanna make when im older comes true you'll get that movie

[@AeroZeppelin998]

Frederik it honestly wouldn’t bother me if Christopher Nolan just made a plane movie😂

[@ryancook6452]

Basically you want to watch battle of Britain

[@MegaCrocosaurus92]

Seriously. Non-stop flying and shooting :)

[@ThePerpetualStudent]

Tkyjen: You are a hero.

[@davej1425]

'He's on me.....I'm on him' Probably one of the best lines of modern times. Hardy played this so well.

[@csdvideouk]

Agreed, so cool the way it’s delivered.

[@ericg7485]

Love it 👌

[@fredfishmonger]

Line goes hard af

[@notgadot]

BRITISH PILOTS ARE THE BEST

[@thesnazzycomet]

@@notgadotty sir! o7

[@radicaljellyfish4435]

I love the fact that both the Spitfires and 109’s aren’t just spraying rounds like lots of other movies. Many WW2 airplanes had only around 30 seconds worth of total ammunition and this movie does a rather good job of pointing that out by having all the pilots do quick, short bursts. Many people believe that these airplanes have minutes worth of ammunition and that they can just spray and pray when in reality- it’s the opposite

[@radlyspain]

polish pilots would only open up at incredibly close range. they wanted to make sure to take the plane down.

[@JT29501]

I think 30 is quite optimistic too, no? From what I have read depending on the model it's between about 14 and 17 seconds! So yeah, really good job on that bit of realism. Makes actually taking your shot at the right time much more important than is often depicted.. not to mention the overheating issues if you fire a machine gun in the commonly depicted way you describe!

[@radicaljellyfish4435]

@@JT29501 That’s interesting and I wouldn’t doubt it. I’ve just read that many airplanes (I guess American fighters more specifically) had roughly 30 seconds but that could be wrong.

[@JT29501]

@@radicaljellyfish4435 I think the Mustang had more guns than the Spitfire, so that sounds like you are probably right! If I had more time, I'd look it up..

[@radicaljellyfish4435]

@@JT29501 I know some variants of the Spitfire had 8 total guns while the Mustang had 6. Something to consider though is many other nations used smaller caliber machine guns. If I remember correctly, the spitfires often used the 7.7mm which is rather small when compared to a American 50 caliber. Smaller bullet often means more ammo but I can’t be too certain on how true this all is.

[@itsstans75]

Good old fashioned aerial cinematography with real planes beats CGI anytime!

[@joshuatumambo5674]

chevalier vagabond Pearl Harbor was a bigger disgrace

[@Edelweiss482]

Oh yeah definitely, one could hardly notice the Yak-52 or the HA-1112, remote controlled German bombers and the really gentle combat maneuvers.

[@patrickmartinez4571]

And I have to think -- when that one went down it was definitely enahnced with a computer. I am sick of people complaining about CG when it has absolutely created stunning visuals. The marriage of CG and practical make the best visuals - - sorry for the paragraph reply. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nIXcmIKiqbGtfrc

[@stevensmith228]

Real time not Computer BS. Besides you expect them to use all those Spitfires just laying around all over the world ?

[@RealityIsTheNow]

Patrick Martinez the only time CGI is acceptable is when you can't tell it's CGI. Look at comic book movies, where characters transmute in CGI cartoons and start doing uncanny, cheesy looking things. It's not great.

[@jaybizzle1995]

as a Brit, this opening shot of the 3 spitfires flying side by side is one of the coolest things I’ve seen in a movie

[@Azraiel213]

Passing over the boat in formation mere meters above the waterline is what did it for me.

[@otyliciu]

Three Spitfires, one and a half Mosquitoes, or three quarters of a Lancaster (i.e. three Merlin engines heard in scene). : )

[@rufus501st9]

Jonno Brown I agree with you as a german

[@balasankarajith2923]

You must be proud of your airforce

[@rufus501st9]

TheGreaterGood80 I’m German and I agree too

[@peterhoughton3094]

Here's an amazing tale. The spitfire Hardy is "flying" is serial number N3200.These planes are real - not CGI. This ACTUAL aircraft flew over dunkirk in 1940 piloted by Squadron Leader Stephenson. He fought several enemy aircraft on May 26 1940 and was eventually hit over dunkirk. He managed to land on the beach... with the wheels up - a belly landing. He was captured.... and went to colditz, where he was the guy who built the COLDITZ GLIDER! He survived the war and became the personal pilot of KIng George the Sixth. He was killed in a flying accident in the 1950s. N3200 stayed on the beach until the 1980s. Various storms covered it in sand and it virtually disappeared. Another storm then revealed it... by now a twisted bunch of rusty metal. The wreck then sat in a museum in Normandy for years... until it was bought by a wealthy American tourist who donated it to the aircraft restoration company in duxford... in about 2013.... where the plane was based the day Stephenson took off for dunkirk! For 2 years the company patched it back together, with mostly new and recycled parts. But some of that old plane is still there. In 2015 it flew for the first time since dunkirk. Stephensons 2 daughters were there to witness it. And then Nolan hired it for this... where once again it set out for Dunkirk in a sequence amazing similar to it's actual history. Several spitfires and hurricanes force landed on the beaches, the most amazing is New Zealander Alan Deere's story. He got out of his spitfire, and got back to the area occupied by allied troops where he managed to get on a boat back to England... after 19 hours he was back to his squadron, by nightfall he was sitting in the cockpit of another spitfire ready to fight. These men saved us from disaster. Lest We forget.

[@rossmonty1911]

Superb brother 👏

[@Oli-Johnson]

Kudos to the wealthy American who didn't just want it for his private collection.

[@Truck-kun_01]

Thank them for their service, if it wasn't for them, I'd probably be a Kraut eating potato salad on my porch

[@Alexandre-nh3ei]

wow

[@JohnDavis_NetSkink_Computing]

"Here's an amazing tale." Yes, indeed.

[@christopherhogg8364]

Key part in this that made a massive difference in battle that's often overlooked - the spitfire was the first fighter where every aircraft was equipped with r/t communication so they could talk to each other and coordinate like this portrayal. Up to that point, only the section leader had r/t and the rest simply followed him and if they broke formation were on their own.

[@Garl_Vinland]

My grandfather flew a spitfire in a formation just like this. He's still alive too, and sharp as a tack. Still cant beat him at chess.

[@UndoingRuin08]

That's awesome and much respect to him. May he live long and prosper my dude

[@reigon5817]

god bless that brit gentleman

[@Garl_Vinland]

@@UndoingRuin08 The mad lad is renewing his drivers license next year and hes 98

[@chadsullivan8013]

makes me happy knowing im alive at the same time as someone like your grandfather

[@crazysithslave]

Whats your grandfather's name and the squadron he flew in,I'll look him up 👍

[@Tommytoolsqueezer]

‘I’m on him’ sounds so bad ass! Especially when hardy says it

[@bruhmomento6691]

Right? I thought I was one of the few that really loved that line. It gave me chills, I guess it was the way Hardy said it.

[@Austein]

@@bruhmomento6691 The other line that's solid and gives me goosebumps is when he counts down and you can hear the vibrations caused by the engine in his voice.

[@loukipp5469]

Herr Austein and with his voice already it’s so sick

[@SplinterAce]

I would 100% trust him

[@mrkeogh]

Great actor. Plus he keeps his mask on most of the time, he's not vain enough to break character and plaster his mush onscreen. Let's his eyes and voice do the work.

[@doid3r4s]

Finally I movie that shows how fucking hard it is to hit a plane with machineguns.

[@haskapaska]

Needs some Ben Affleck yelling "HAMMER DOWN!!!!"

[@RobertKaydoo]

Or TAKA TAKA TAKA

[@HaHawk]

"the majority of victories were scored by the minority of pilots" -- This applies to many things in life, actually...

[@WALTERBROADDUS]

LOL I remember that.

[@davidfortier6976]

Yuri DeKhed Correct. About half of them were accounted for by one percent of pilots. It turns out that they're all psychopaths. What matters the most is being willing to engage in a life and death struggle with other pilots day after day. Psychopaths don't get scared the same way we do. Of course not all psychopaths make good pilots, and they never make good soldiers, but they have their place, in a way.

[@kaloustaphae]

I love this scene. When the wing leader gives the order to break, the tension just ratchets up as the soundtrack suddenly changes and becomes like a hammering engine. The sound design in this movie just kept me on edge the whole time.

[@okedoke1234]

Hans Zimmer at his best

[@MichelKodocz]

The sound of Spitfire engine is one of the most beautiful things I have ever heard

[@MichelKodocz]

Yeah, also very nice. But Spitfire is love

[@sd501st5]

It's quite obvious that you would like both the Spitfire's and the Mustang's engine sound, because the most well known P-51 Mustang(the D variant) has more or less the exact same engine sound as the Spitfire... both planes have the same Rolls Royce Merlin engine(okay, there are different variants of this engine, and some Mustangs and Spitfires had Merlins who were license built by Packard, but they still sound basicly the same). ;) Only the first few versions(the "Mk.1" delivered to the RAF and the P-51A, as well as the divebomber version A-36 Apache) had a different engine, the same Allison V-1710 as the P-40 Warhawk/Kittyhawk had.

[@Six1Nine8Six]

Yes, that Rolls Royce Merlin is quite possibly one of the sexiest engines every created. Got to see one up close at the British Imperial War Museum in London and wow... engineering beauty.

[@sd501st5]

I personally prefer the Daimler Benz 600 series, and the distinct flyby sound of a real Bf 109 with it's supercharger howling. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oqTNhYirramtisU Then again, that might be because I am german. ^^ Still, the sound of a Merlin powered Spitfire/Hurricane/Mustang flying past *is* very sexy! It ranks as a solid second for me. On third place would be the R-2800 on a F4U Corsair, and only the Corsair... the F6F Hellcat and P-47 Thunderbolt use the same engine, but the sound isn't quite the same... it's always a combination of the engine and the plane itself. :)

[@MichelKodocz]

Also very nice sound :-) It is a dream to see those WW2 planes in the air, but it is rare to see them in Czech Republic

[@MikesLeague]

Tom Hardy did such a kick ass job with such little words lol. Just his face alone is so intense in these scenes.

[@danglingdave1787]

he's a top actor

[@irw4350]

@@danglingdave1787 he THINKS he's a top actor - dangling indeed - in the Krays he spent the entire fucking movie with an expression of "I'm going to squeeze out this last bit of shit if it kills me"

[@danbuckner8364]

@@irw4350 You know what Tom Hardy thinks about himself? Damn dude you must be a psychic.

[@irw4350]

@@danbuckner8364 its a gift

[@guardianknight5842]

I still can't believe these planes were real and not cgi

[@AverageAlien]

Practical effects are better

[@BigHorseFilm]

@@AverageAlien This is simply not true. Although I agree in sentiment. A balance between both is what leads to great cinema. Over use of CGI in the last 25 years has led to Practical Effects appearing better, however this film made heavy use of CGI as well as Practical Effects, and that is what, in my humble opinion, made it so effective. The film Battle of Britain (1969) also used Practical Effects, and although it looked great for it's time, Dunkirk (2017) really shows what can be achieved with a good balance. (In my opinion)

[@AverageAlien]

@@BigHorseFilm Like I said, practical effects are better.

[@YasinTheDuke]

WHAT

[@valianthorizon6890]

Jhon D That’s completely false. Compare the cgi from Jurassic World to Jurassic Park, and you can see how many miles better that Jurassic Park’s cgi was compared to Jurassic World’s.

[@chrizz754]

this scene is soo good. I especially love how the german fighter just falls in the sea and thats it. No heroic kill music, no screaming - Also, Fortis leader just dissapearing (probably shot down by the other BF109) feels very real from the perspective of the pilots.

[@carlal.5072]

Those planes are so beautiful.

[@MrDaiseymay]

Yeah---the Germans loved to see 'em in their rear view mirror

[@vasilisdouzas8616]

@notformebeaky regi mitchell the master of it

[@karimshebeika8010]

@notformebeaky tbh I think the Bf looks more terrifying

[@karimshebeika8010]

@notformebeaky though the Spitfire has this sexy wing shape

[@sean-e-boy]

@notformebeaky the p51 mustang? Japanese Zeros looked pretty cool too

[@mattb711]

The shot where the 109 is in his rearview mirror is terrifying. That whole sequence is awesome.

[@mattb711]

Yuri DeKhed, in response to your comment, I know what you mean. If you saw the belly of the plane behind you then you are in some trouble. That indicates the bandit on your tail has turned inside of you which places you inside of his crosshairs.

[@wowliker642]

What almost became his last mistake was not using the spitfire to her full potential. She's a turn fighter, easily capable of out maneuvering a 109. Still this fight was a bit jarring considering the context and the 109's bullets impacting on the spitfire came out completely left field. The guy is lucky to be alive as his lack of situational awareness would have certainly got him killed.

[@HéctorGarcía-j6n]

Is not even a 109

[@HéctorGarcía-j6n]

@@wowliker642 is not a 109

[@gunnerpony1851]

@@HéctorGarcía-j6n yes but it is meant to portray a Bf-109. Do you know how hard it is t get your hands on a genuine Bf-109? Let alone an E model!! The HA model is the closest they could get, and it did a damn good job at that.

[@PeterRadka]

"No one cared about me before I put the oxygen mask on."

[@BryceEdwardBrown]

Something about the delivery of "I'm on him" makes it so intense and cool

[@petedyson1983]

"He's on me" "I'm on him" Matter of fact. Epic

[@sanich0811]

Gachi moment

[@hugodrax71]

"Dunkirk's so far. Why can't they just load at Calais?" "The enemy had something to say about it."

[@TheSecondVersion]

Long ago the Four Nations lived together in harmony But everything changed when the enemy had something to say about it

[@Nightfire-ui9zu]

@@TheSecondVersion lol

[@fistinyourface7053]

@akshay satish that the Germans have taken Calais already

[@bamarine247]

Principle of war: The enemy also has an opinion

[@brandonthesteele]

I love the sound design to bits. The spitfires are portrayed as powerful, yet rickety and fragile. The vibrations and shaking in the cockpit stick with me the most. All that rattling.

[@hd-xc2lz]

Agreed. The rattling both puts you in the seat of the pilot, and alludes to the constant and deadly threat from outside, seems enemy shot will tear the plane apart.

[@paulmichaelfreedman8334]

Good planes built in a hurry, will fly and rattle.

[@loampey1]

I felt the sound was completely unrealistic. Spitfires aren't rickety and even if they did rattle like that you would never hear it. The sound of that 2000 hp rolls royce merlin and that enormous prop would make it absolutely deafening inside the cockpit.

[@VRichardsn]

@@loampey1 They should have inverted the Merlin, like the Germans did with their Daimler-Benz. Much more pleasant to the ear.

[@moeburn]

@@loampey1 Actually the old spitfires were this rickety. Oleg Maddox himself specifically cited multiple accounts from RAF pilots saying that the old 1940 MK 1 and II models rattled and squeaked just like this for the making of IL2 Cliffs of Dover, which is why they sound just like this Dunkirk clip here in that game. The same pilots said that the newer models, Mk V and onwards, had solved this issue. And while they were loud inside the cockpit, they were sealed pretty tight, it wasn't absolutely deafening (although some other planes were).

[@Red-Magic]

I love the sounds in this film. The shaking and squeaking of the airplane, the unexaggerated or dramatic gunfire, the damaged engine of the 109, and the shaking in the pilot's voice from the shaking of the Spitfire.

[@Banginyermamsince93]

British films are usually more realistic like that. We don't need as much flashy colours and music to keep us interested haha.

[@aolson1111]

@@Banginyermamsince93 Lmao, this is an American film. WB is American.

[@musicaleuphoria8699]

I mean, this and Dunkirk could classified as British films with British directors despite Hollywood involvement. Heck, foreign films to one's preferences.

[@Banginyermamsince93]

@@aolson1111 WB gives the directors money.. that's the only influence.

[@sigis72]

This scene is enough to tell that the movie is a masterpiece, the sound design, the way the tention is built, the angles. Easily one of my top 10 films

[@ShizukuSeiji]

Regrettably the film has its weak spots. Kevin Branagh as the dock master just talking and pontificating while the entire complexity and magnificence of Operation Dynamo is passed over. And near the end where a Spitfire gliding with a dead engine shoots down a Ju87 while it is DIVING, which is impossible. It would actually be impossible if the Spit had a working engine at full power. Nothing at that period in the war could dive with a Ju87. So yeah while Nolan was good at some aspects (the time games, claustrophobia) he screwed up at other points. Its a good film, but by no means a great film.

[@hanscombe72]

I love that Michael Caine was the flight lead over the radio. He played Squadron Leader Camfield in the 1969 Battle of Britain movie. "How much longer ops, the engine's overheating and so am I. We either stand down or blow up, which do you want?"

[@WALTERBROADDUS]

Yeah everybody was in that flick. Sad he dies in both.

[@neilhellens8956]

Fighter pilot ,Zulu fighter and nosy neighbour

[@jesuschristneverlived6938]

+hanscombe72 “Let’s make it eleven before Jerry has you for breakfast!”

[@Fearless1247]

@@neilhellens8956 italian job too

[@mtrice5934]

@@jesuschristneverlived6938 that would be Robert Shaw....

[@funkeystudiostv]

They are noticeably trying to hide the panic in their voices

[@ismafalvar]

funkeystudiosTV and the score makes sure that the audience know that.

[@bamarine247]

Also a good dose of engine vibration when they talk too

[@otyliciu]

Very different mission profile... the Spitfire was designed as an interceptor and most pilots were drilled on scenarios that assumed they'd be fighting enemy aircraft over friendly territory with fuel to spare or, at least, the ability to come down on a friendly road and have it delivered after combat if running short. Being tasked with providing air cover over a foreign beach at the extreme limits of the Spit's range understandably produced a whole new level of anxiety. As much as they were defending their own, they were doing so faced with all the disadvantages you'd typically associate with aircraft of the invading power (pilot fatigue, limited fuel for combat, etc.).

[@adamboh393]

Dunkirk wasn’t the extreme range of a Spitfire it could go quite far into France if needed.

[@JM-dy4ty]

Sir Bobo yeah but it couldn’t come back

[@Jared_Wignall]

Michael Caine as fortis leader FTW!

[@lawrencedockery9032]

+Jared Wignall A throwback to him as a squadron leader in Battle of Britain back in 1969.

[@ath3lwulf533]

pity he bought the farm again :/

[@_Braised]

Spoiling two movies with one comment- impressive, you idiot.

[@_Braised]

Exactly. Next time take your own advice

[@_Braised]

Guess you didn't take your own advice afterall. Keep at it, you'll get there one day. Maybe...

[@300thNPC]

One of the greatest war scenes ever made. Just breathtaking. It looks and sounds so real as if you're watching from an actual aircraft in 1940. This is the "Saving Private Ryan Omaha Beach Scene" of WW2 dogfights in cinema. I only wish they could have had a bigger budget for more planes/bigger air battles.

[@notgadot]

EUROPEANS POWERS

[@D.M.S.]

“The enemy has something to say about it.“ British humour and calmness.

[@amirulnafis703]

Typical British Sense Of Humour

[@josueluna7532]

Alfred has jokes

[@robwalsh9843]

The stiff upper lip, a trait that has served the Brits well.

[@overland1178]

Yeah totally then the Americans show up late to save your sorry asses every time.

[@stevenmcguinness2476]

@@overland1178 , either you are joking or you were taught your WW2 history in the USA.

[@dranelemakol]

The shot at 1:11 is seriously some of the most beautiful and epic cinematography I have ever seen. The sense of foreboding and scale is incredible.

[@joserochapinto500]

YES IT IS MY FRIEND

[@thachiefrocka]

I kept whispering to my self "wow" through out the movie. Especially during the dogfight scenes.

[@timmehtimotei9499]

Couldn’t agree more

[@lilvin3610]

What is actually the name of the soundtrack at 1:11?

[@nstice1]

But the foreboding never came...they fought 3 German fighters and a bomber. The UK and German Lutwaft flew over 2,000 sorties in the week of the Dunkirk evacuation. At no point would there have only been 7 planes flying over Dunkirk. Needed WAY more air combat and fighter planes at least 50-100 to really make this foreboding. It’s my 2/3 gripe about this film.

[@vbgggfff]

The way the pilots are so calm about it is what makes it so badass. Ben Affleck screaming like a gutted pig in Pearl Harbor in comparison is fucking pathetic.

[@vbgggfff]

Hahhahahahhahahhahh

[@aliimran4194]

HAMMER DOWN XD

[@vbgggfff]

GON DO SOME BUSINESS

[@theobluebird7283]

I remember some real action recording of british ww2 bomber crew. Attacked by fighter, attacker was shot down. They were so calm, it was like some boring dinner table conversation.

[@kaskyable]

blame it on the writer and director, he just followed them.

[@srbrant5391]

0:10 - Glad they nailed the location down. Don't want to leave viewers in the dark.

[@Gravey91]

I saw this movie in an IMAX. There were only about 10 other people in the room with me and one man was sitting next to me. The whole movie we both didn't eat our popcorn or drink from our beverages. The atmosphere the movie created was so intense and stressful (in a good way). When the movie ended you could here the guy next to me did a deep breath. Sounded like he was holding his breath the whole movie.

[@berishajrb]

I wish they just show it again in theaters so ppl can just see the difference watching this movie in IMAX and not at home. It was loud, i thought i was there. The dog fights were realistic.

[@user-mk7yr8ix5z]

Только это американские сказки, всё с точностью до наоборот, вспомни Перл-Харбор

[@striximperatrix3625]

Saw this in 70mm Imax. Felt like I was going to fall through the screen and into the sea during some of the aerial sequences.

[@Jarod-vg9wq]

I felt the same way.

[@runawayplane6166]

Plot twist: Nobody actually bought any popcorn or drink…

[@dcornejoy]

Fortis leader: Michael Caine Fortis one: Tom Hardy Music: Hans Zimmer Director: Chris Nolan Spitfire vs Messerschmitt What else could you ask?

[@사랑해요문재인-h3h]

Who is fortis two?

[@dcornejoy]

@@사랑해요문재인-h3h Jack Lowden

[@사랑해요문재인-h3h]

@@dcornejoy thanks

[@gillespie9209]

Daniel Cornejo OH SHIT MICHAEL CAINE IS FORTIS LEADER I NEVER KNEW

[@homiej57]

@@gillespie9209 ikr, you only hear his voice

[@n0kiaaaa]

Finally, no extremely fast CGI shots, no barrel rolls, spins or other shit that break every single law of physics, no unlimited ammo, no planes that literally explode mid-air when shot twice, no boring and repetitive epic music and no poor dialogues or hollywood one-liners. True masterpiece

[@eli6797]

Yeah, when you see him lead his reticle twice before the 3rd run that hit him, he doesn’t hit any of his shots and you have that voice in the back of your head that’s like “why don’t you just hold down the trigger while the bf109 is moving into your line of sight, a few of them are going to hit” and you realize he only has 3 or 4 maximum 3 second bursts before he runs out of ammo

[@jpmcintosh9106]

.... and no arseholes shouting "yeehawwwww" like it's a game. Take note, Ben Affleck, Bruce Willis, et al.

[@rosenscharf]

@@eli6797 The early Spitfires and Hurricanes were armed with 7mm guns exclusively. They had plenty of ammo.

[@n0kiaaaa]

@Omni i think it feels slow because all shots are taken from the planes themselves instead of using fast CGI shots that show the planes flying at impossible speeds and doing extreme barrel rolls and side turns and shit like that Red Tails scene where a guy just stalls his plane upwards in one second and falls right behind an enemy fighter. Even if the pilots knew how to do that stuff they most likely would get knocked out by G-force or would waste their ammo without hitting the enemy plane once since they don't have time to lead their shots or even aim at them

[@moistman6930]

@@rosenscharf They had 2600 rounds of .303. You merge with a 109 at 300 mph each. 600mph closing time. Wingspan ~30, adjust gunsight to BASE 30, then 150 Yards. You bank onto his tail, pulling a 4g continuous turn, you then have to correctly lead or deflection shoot a 280mph BF109, while his mate is closing. You pull a 6G turn to lead, loose balance and miss your first volley. You now have 2200 rounds for 8 guns. You pull a sustained turn and do the same. He lands some hits on your number 2. You land a hit on his elevator, minimal damage. 1800 rounds. You ask your 2 to pull him to your lead, he does so. You land a hit on his wing root and he leaks glycol, still flying but out of action. Probable kill. Time in dogfight: ~50 seconds. This is incredibly hard, and many pilots had minimal practice shooting moving targets. In reality, you would probably have to hit his Glycol and Oil to get him out of the fight, and this would probably take you to 800 rounds for 8 guns, with a bit of luck, you could maybe get another kill with this. Not plenty, barely enough. With the introduction of 20mm Hispano, this got easier as less hits would secure a kill, though you wouldn’t have as much ammo.

[@MarcusHelius]

That first shot of the Spitfires gives me chills... the grace of the machines and the perfect formation flying.

[@Frankie-O]

🥶

[@Tavers2]

2:40 is actually a really important little thing. As a combat pilot, you never, ever want to be looking at the same place as your wingman. If both of you were looking at the same thing, focussing on the same thing, then that means that you’re leaving other sectors open, and unattended. As if to prove my point, right as Fortis 1 and 2 are looking at the downed German plane, one of them gets hit by the guy neither of them were looking for. Maintain your sectors.

[@NOOBSLAYER-cw3gd]

nice observation

[@hamzamahmood9565]

Thanks for that dogfighting tip, will come in handy

[@masonmunkey6136]

@@hamzamahmood9565 adds context to the scene

[@Crudmonkey211]

Hamza Mahmood hahahaha

[@zepho100]

Thank you, but this was obvious. 😂

[@tomclaytonmedia6942]

I absolutely adore the sound of violently rattling metal as the planes bank left and right. There was similar sound design in the wormhole sequence in Interstellar. Nolan is the man.

[@Civ33]

agreed. No smooth cinematic audio. Makes you "feel" the forces these vehicles are being stressed under. Like sitting on a plane flying through turbulence

[@Venom-yh7vb]

2:50 - 2:55 "Crashing this plane... WITH NO SURVIVORS..."

[@thecultofjonnybighed]

Hahahahahahaha Venom that's a good one XD

[@matmac888]

He sounds like bane in this movie. lol

[@dalekswartz2092]

You're a big guy

[@thecultofjonnybighed]

Dalek Swartz ...for you.

[@TheBlackLodger]

He didn't fly so good. Who wants to try next?

[@toobasaurus23]

My grandfather flew in the Korean war. Tried out in 1997 for the RAAF when I was 17 to fly the FA-18. Was eliminated for my father's medical history. Wasn't eligible to fly any aircraft. The standards are a lot more forgiving now, but being a fighter pilot is all I ever wanted to do with my life. I will honour him on Anzac Day 25th April this year at the dawn service wearing his medals. Lest we forget.

[@theonlymexicanman4422]

I'm gonna be real disappointed if this movie doesn't win best sound editing/design

[@TheWelchProductions]

A nomination definitely, but it's pretty close with Baby Driver.

[@Venom-yh7vb]

The only movie I'm okay with stealing that category from Dunkirk is Blade Runner 2049, other than that if Dunkirk or 2049 doesn't win it then that's fucked...

[@wwii4591]

I watched it in theaters.......it was as good as it looks

[@TheWelchProductions]

So...outstanding?

[@kaigraw4440]

Elijah York Actually I think Blade Runner 2049 had the best cinematography but Dunkirk they wouldn't be wrong when they give this Category to Dunkirk

[@caseycipriano57]

One of the best IMAX experiences I have ever had! Me and my sister saw it at the Omni theatre in Fort Worth. We knew we were in for a treat when half of the crowd were all old veterans! The fact that it filled the full screen and cranked the volume to the max, I don't think I've ever been more terrified of the sound of a fighter plane before....

[@R281]

Casey Cipriano it was pretty awesome. That sound was intense. A lot of that magic is gone when watching it on my phone.

[@caseycipriano57]

I totally understand! It's a must-see in IMAX. I was so happy when I went to see The Last Jedi the other day at the museum that they still had the Dunkirk reel in their collection. Hopefully it becomes a regular so everyone can experience it!

[@roberto8645]

Casey Cipriano Yeah this movie was great in IMAX. One of the only movies that kept me on the edge of my seat the entire time.

[@mossbrg5]

Saw it in Imax. I had no finger nails left at the end.

[@neilwilson5785]

Yeah, saw it first in a normal cinema, then just had to find an IMAX. Really, really worth it.

[@littleferrhis]

I love that a lot of these tactics are actually used. The spit is good at turning, and deflector shots are it’s strength, so having the one spit cut in front so hardy could get the deflector was honestly fairly accurate. The boom and zoom of the 109 right after is also a very common fighter tactic.

[@notgadot]

Dunkirk is all about British soldiers,

[@blueplanetoff]

I like how realistically is the dogfight done. No big manuevers, limited amount of ammo, and so on. Dunkirk is excellent movie.

[@kpark4503]

1:23 Its just planes splitting up, yet it gives me hype every fucking time i watch it

[@frostbitepokin9520]

Kevin Park I really like the beat in the background when they split

[@Sethpelepchuk]

FrostBite Pokin yeah to bad it's nit in the soundtrack

[@dfmotat3670]

I remember feel a deep empty vertigo when they say "break". Incredible sound editing

[@Six1Nine8Six]

You actually get the feeling you are in a plane of your own breaking off when that ME 109 passes. Superb cinematography.

[@joeduffyy]

The eeriness of the sound creates a feeling of imminent danger and it's bloody incredible

[@J0mzy118]

1:20 ‘Bandit 11 o’clock’ ‘Break’ so good

[@0ako]

At that point and from that angle the German pilot could've probably taken all three of them out by surprise with a well-timed burst lol...

[@giovanna8232]

My favorite scene lol

[@SimonFerocius]

It's funny that Michael Caine as Fortis Leader also play the same role as pilot in Battle of Britain its just like the movie had a crossover with it

[@cripplehawk]

SPOILERS And both characters died :(

[@Mister_Kourkoutas]

Haha maybe both characters were related?

[@2fun55]

Guys! I just discovered Michael Caine starred in a Korea War movie about British soldiers, Michael actually served in the war!

[@kuribayashi84]

@@2fun55 Yeah, "A Hill in Korea" from 1956, right? His first credited Role.

[@Avofan]

TGM had very good aerial shots and scenes but I still believe Dunkirk has hands down the best aerial shot and scenes ever put into a movie.

[@Davecm008]

God damn, that opening shot man...

[@mjjmedia12]

1:11 in the boat below them, Cillian Murphy is trying to open the door and Mark Rylance introduces George to the spitfires

[@arumteguh2762]

Actually, George is not his son.

[@mjjmedia12]

Right not George. He calls out to his son Peter.

[@klkshaq5868]

Matt Johnston No, he calls to George, not to Peter

[@mjjmedia12]

+Andres Jonson damn, you're right actually. just checked the script. always thought George responded with "he didn't even look" but he apparently says "you didn't even look".

[@kierenboimufc5940]

That boy was I believe the youngest fatality of Dunkirk and he was from gravesend in Kent

[@TheSecondVersion]

0:56 - I wanna use that line for random shit "Why haven't you done the dishes yet?" "...the enemy had something to say about it"

[@henryfraipont9343]

I absolutely love how the directors chose not to make this entire movie CGI like the new Midway movie for example. Their use of real planes and real ships makes the whole experience 10x more engaging. If I want CGI I’ll hop on war thunder.

[@Burningwhisky96]

midway was a trash movie tbh, indeed too much cgi and wannabe cool stylish hollywood, if they portrayed midway as they did with dunkirk, less cgi, more intese scenes and more realism (graphic) it would have done allot better

[@bmo5082]

Midway was a total embarrassment of a movie.

[@rycs16]

@@Burningwhisky96 They never could have made midway if they'd done it without CGI they don't have enough old planes to blow up to make midway look real.

[@Check_Vibe0]

Imo the new midway is good, it showed a lot of unknown events that happened, like when the man jumped into an aircrafts gunner to engage the Japanese Kamikaze. That actually happened Of course midway would need cgi because it’s too big for practicals like real planes and ships of course. Midways use of cgi was needed. I liked it because it’s the best movie version we have with decent graphics However it’s my opinion, is it perfect? No but I like it

[@lucid5183]

ig but Midway is an 11/10 movie for me. I absolutely loved it.

[@chrisbullock3504]

In IMAX, These scenes with the Merlin Engines were FANTASTIC! You could feel the vibrations in your chest... Great movie.

[@MrBandholm]

This and "Blade Runner 2049" are the two best film for me in 2017! Both fantastic, but Dunkirk has the hands down best Air combat scenes ever put to film!

[@norwoodreaper4932]

Minimal dialogue and the high concentration between the pilots is what makes this scene so tense

[@ninurtathricemajestic7179]

Imagine the prestige you felt at the pub if you made back.

[@Six1Nine8Six]

Most of those guys were more dismayed about the friends they lost to feel any sense of joy about making it back themselves. Survivor's guilt.

[@UniQue1992]

How can you even think about that. War is HELL, friends, family everyone lost someone.

[@eisaatana96]

Britain was saved as much by stupid decisions by the German high command as the RAF.

[@nickblaser992]

I don't think you understand how close the Luftwaffe was to actually defeating the RAF in the Battle of Britain. it was entirely possible that they could have.

[@mjhmab]

Luftwaffe was actualy almost as effective as the RAF

[@Casey757]

Man those Spitfires at the beginning look so good.

[@TonyAKA30]

RIP Fortis leader :,(

[@The_Furless]

Tony Koter a mysterious man I say

[@jusjetz]

+Boiled Potato u mean "Man"?

[@Unmedicated_Moments]

y0U wHaTT mAATeE Skywalker Wrong

[@Jared_Wignall]

y0U wHaTT mAATeE Skywalker you mean Fortis 2? Collins? Fortis Leader is voiced by Michael Caine and his character in this is a nod to his role in The Battle of Britain.

[@seanw3814]

@@Jared_Wignall I knew it, I knew I recognized that voice somewhere

[@TheBradderzlad93]

This film was a treat in 70mm IMAX

[@jessedaniel4449]

Ciaran Damien Bradley I 100% agree. I also saw it in Imax and my friend was jealous of it.

[@bobtom9849]

You stole this comment. Also, you are fugly.

[@thebatman4279]

@@bobtom9849 Youre alone.

[@Fast.Money956]

Just noticed Michael Caine does the voice for fortis leader.

[@ryanmann1416]

A reference to his role as a spitfire pilot, in the film Battle of Britain

[@angusmcculloch6653]

I know. It's not like there are any WW2 vets left who earned the right to have their voices used in a WW2 movie. No, just use the rich privileged actor.

[@numbah16]

@@angusmcculloch6653 lol in such a rush to be offended. what a snowflake... It's a movie, get over it.

[@mac1975]

Thank god it’s not only me..!

[@Chilly_Billy]

@@angusmcculloch6653, I guess his combat service in Korea doesn't mean anything to you?

[@garyroberts1560]

The whole film was so tense and exciting, and the soundtrack fit it brilliantly. The dogfights were EASILY the best parts of an already superb film.

[@Markus_Andrew]

The Spitfire has to be one of the most beautiful aircraft ever built. The engine note of the mighty Merlin is the icing on the flying cake.

[@taqyon]

Stuka is :)

[@DavidCurryFilms]

It's lovely noise as it flies overhead, very different for the pilot in the cockpit as everything vibrates. The Bf109G and P-51D have their own special intimidating whine from air rushing over the supercharger intake.

[@lapis.lareza]

Sturmovik also but all WW2 hardware are badass

[@Cross-CutFilms]

I do love the Spitfire too, but my first true love was the P-51

[@Markus_Andrew]

@@DavidCurryFilms Cheers for the reply. They do sound wonderful from a distance, but I've never had any doubt that it was a different story on the other side of the canopy. It would have to be, with a power plant like that right in front of you 😁

[@MajorHenryL.]

Love how they used Michael Caine as “Fortis Leader.” Nice touch and ode to 1969’s “Battle of Britain” in which he starred in. Basically Alfred and Bane worked together 😂

[@ryanhampson673]

(Germans start bombing Britain) RAF:...Someone call and ambulance....But not for me.

[@louise_rose]

Yes, I came here just to make a comment about that! :) Excellent touch (and Caine is duch a great actor, the real heir of Bogart IMO). Watched this film with my family on the biggest theatre screen in Sweden, and have since got it on dvd.

[@drott150]

If you examine the scene of the damaged 109 going down, they modeled it after a nearly identical scene in Battle of Britain as well.

[@thelonewanderer6762]

Here's a theory, Battle of Britain (1969) and Dunkirk are connected, fortis leader survived and returned to England where he is allocated to a new squadron

[@TeKillaShot]

The Lone Wanderer it's apparently muchael Caine in both films as well

[@Mrraugut]

Unfortunately, I don't think that's the case. Spoiler alert below: They find the wreckage of Fortis Leader later, implying he was KIA.

[@mjleger4555]

Dunkirk was notorious! Bless all who fought and gave their lives and bless those who survived to tell about it!

[@arumteguh2762]

2:58 that jumpscare could revive a person who died because of heart attack

[@MrBebozz]

i don't get what happend there.. who shoted at who?

[@arumteguh2762]

MrBebozz me 109 shooted fortis 1

[@AviatorBoy1996]

arumteguh that jump scare almost killed me at the movie theater haha!

[@SolidMGSnake]

Dude the popcorn went flying out of my hands when I saw that part in my imax theater lol

[@sd501st5]

Just fyi, the flights name is "Fortress" and there are Fortress Leader, Fortress 2 and Fortress 3. The flight leader is by definition also number 1, so Fortress Leader is also Fortress 1. The RAF at the time(and possibly still today, but I am not sure) simply called the Nr. 1 "Leader" so that the Flight Lead could always be sure that his orders are recognized as such. In the heat of combat, it's easy to mishear one word for another sometimes, but the word "Leader" is distinctly different from numbers and leaves no room for confusion. :) I am not sure about the practice in todays RAF because current NATO standard is to call a flight "Word Number", for example "Enfield 2". Then each flight member has a number as well. The flight lead of "Enfield 2" would be "Enfield 2-1" and so forth. Maybe someone found this little info dump interesting. ^^

[@bamarine247]

“Never fly straight and level for more than 20 seconds. If you do, you’ll die.” -Geoffrey Wellum, RAF fighter pilot

[@lyndoncmp5751]

Robert Shaw also says that in the 1969 Battle of Britain movie.

[@aliimran4194]

Better than Pearl Harbor. Anyone agree ?

[@mattj2081]

That's not saying much.

[@dfmotat3670]

Im not agree because just putting pearl harbor in a level to compare with Dunkirk is disrespectful. Dunkirk is masterpiece, pearl harbor is really bad

[@Andrew_H43]

YES!

[@Megalodon64]

WAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYY better. Pearl Harbor went too far with the explosions. Oh wait it was directed by Michael Bay no wonder. LOL

[@douglasames6495]

Ali 1798 Pearl Harbor was a CGI abomination

[@scarecrowman7789]

No cheesy Hollywood stuff. Just great visuals and noise from Nolan’s masterpiece. Our RAF were heroes 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

[@kunaiguywot]

I didn't even know what happened to Fortis leader, it happened so fast. Then I realized... T h a t w a s t h e p o i n t

[@jamespappas8885]

The bass rhythm synced to the heartbeat of the pilot was fantastic. When he was lining up the shot, the bass starts firing off. You could almost feel like you were the one flying the plane

[@slopcrusher3482]

Especially when the planes shaking in the turns, you really do feel like you’re flying the plane

[@arransykes9465]

You're the only person I have found that has mentioned this! I've only really ever been actually adrenaline scared once and it felt like that heartbeat I recognised it instantly and thought it's such a great touch

[@makismakiavelis5718]

1:11 - 1:17 5 seconds of absolute cinematographic beauty. Photography, shooting, CGI, music and sound design working perfectly in unison. Gives a great sense of space, scale and speed. Inspires excitement, awe and fear.

[@tavishkoul5036]

What about editing and are these planes made by production design yes or no

[@itsikisraeli8967]

Wasn't CGI

[@makismakiavelis5718]

@@tavishkoul5036 If I remember correctly they made a replica of the cockpit of a Spitfire and also recreated parts of the aircraft. The actors were inside this replicas and the whole thing was mounted on an apparatus that made the cockpit move like a real plane. The rest is cgi.

[@makismakiavelis5718]

@@itsikisraeli8967 This movie was a combination of props and cgi basically like every other movie of the last 15 years or so.

[@itsikisraeli8967]

@@makismakiavelis5718 Dunkirk used an incredibly small amount of CGI throughout the film, altough it does exist, you should believe most things you see are practical

[@gsp8489]

I love the vibrations and rattling noises. I just fly small little joy flights but that extra bit of realism is so cool.

[@Jackc3105]

The command voice in the spit is Michael Caine, Alfred in Christopher Nolan’s Batman films

[@otyliciu]

Should have given the Spits callsigns 'Batman 1, 2 & 3' for lolz.

[@heintz256]

Who doesn't know who that guy is?

[@geekkrew2522]

This movie was amazing they need to make a whole dogfighting movie

[@hopelessent.1700]

That'll be hard to pull off I liked Flyboys but I don't think anyone else ever saw it... Its WWI by the way...

[@shinski8114]

the creaking of the airplane is amazing, i barley even thought about that detail when trying to envision what these boys up in the air went through

[@animelovers000]

Just to add to that, the creaking is real creaking from a actual spitfire which really adds to the realism

[@raymondhsu6407]

And the grunting of the pilots as they banked through a few Gs

[@northwestflyersuk6766]

Watched to movie 5 times ADDICTING

[@wfvno]

No cheesy lines, unrealistic maneuvers, just a pure realistic dogfight

[@АлександрАлександрович-т8ж6й]

You are kidding??) All this dogfight is absolutely unrealistic.

[@wfvno]

@@АлександрАлександрович-т8ж6й How?

[@АлександрАлександрович-т8ж6й]

@@wfvno I mean, absoluteley, totally unrealistic. Pilots behaviour is absolutley idiotic. German pilots starting chasing spitfires instead of just use altitude advantege and attack. Looks like this people are on drugs or something.

[@Muzical-Man]

@@АлександрАлександрович-т8ж6й I agree. This one dogfight foreshadows that the movie is going to be stupid

[@t34calliope]

@@Muzical-Man how?!

[@sancheezzzy2712]

The loudest movie I have ever watched in my entire life. My chest alone was vibrating when the planes flew by. (Saw this movie in IMAX) Gorgeous film but my god it was loud.

[@andyrobbins8379]

What amazes me is that all the spitfires in the film are time appropriate Marks 1 and 2. Also, the one flown by Tom Hardy really was landed on the actual beach at Dunkirk with the engine off. Not only that, but it actually fought over Dunkirk, was crash landed on a French beach and buried in the sand for decades before being recovered and restored. You cannot get more accurate than that. All the beach locations, including the pier are the true places. The officer played by Kenneth Branagh really stood in exactly the same spot and directed the real operation. It’s mind blowing. My late grandad was at Dunkirk and was rescued from the beaches. The first boat he got on was sunk and they had to go to the back of the queue and wait again. He told me vividly how terrifying it was and how helpless they felt stood in water up to their waists and being attacked from the air. Nowhere to run or hide, just stand still and pray.

[@olentangy74]

That scene of the 3 spitfires sweeping across the IMAX screen and the sounds of the 3 Merlin engines was epic.

[@TheTrainFan]

These are the professionals that are never portrayed correctly in movies. Just men doing their jobs. They nailed it here

[@stuffedmannequin]

Just imagine the psychological endurance of actually getting into a dogfight in this period. Like actually not only trying to operate this giant lug of steel in the sky but actually leading targets, predicting their next move, and actually aiming and shooting with precision. And shooting at a fast-moving, unpredictable target.

[@slurpeexyza17]

Dogfights in the modern era, however rare, is like this but with everything moving at mach.

[@surplus2720]

@@slurpeexyza17 actually u dont dogfights at match velocity .... its more like the same old manuvers but instead of 2-3 g at 150kmh u do that at 6 g's at least at 300 khm maximum 500kmh .... u dont dogfight at 900kmh/500mph

[@slurpeexyza17]

@@surplus2720 thanks for correcting me!

[@andyrobbins8379]

I read an interview with a WW1 pilot years ago, and he said that the whole dogfighting ‘knights of the air’ idea was a myth. He said that they were basically in a state of terror from when they took off until they landed, because all they saw were tiny dots that suddenly swooped and tried to kill them without warning. The whole tactic was to sneak up on the other guy and shoot him on the back before legging it off as fast as you could before his mates did the same to you. When it was published it caused a real stink because it challenged prevailing views, but then other fighter pilots came forward and said ‘yep, that’s what it was like.’

[@splatoonistproductions5345]

I hope we get a new Battle of Britain type film with these levels of graphics and such, it’d be great to see. i love how it was portrayed in this film tho, I mean this was effectively one of if not THE first fights the spitfire ever saw, and we could still feel the power these things had despite the combat and numbers present being relatively tame compared to other films most days

[@90AlmostFamous]

Why is Batman's Butler giving instructions to masked Tom Hardy ?

[@TheBlackLodger]

Don't you mean to Bane?

[@90AlmostFamous]

lol saying that would have been better

[@somethinglikethat2176]

Some men just want to watch the world burn

[@andreabianchi6156]

As an Italian I must say the Spitfire is one of the most beautiful, aesthetically pleasing designs I've ever seen

[@SprikSprak]

I always thought the chilling part of this is how their leader just disappears - he's obviously shot down but they never hear from him again, he's just gone.

[@joecater894]

thats whats so smart about the movie.. it leaves things to the imagination.

[@wayfaerer320]

This is the most realistic aerial combat cinematography I've ever seen on film and I've seen them all. There are some classics out there, but this one they absolutely nailed. In fact, it's so good (and they even got all the little details right too) it's not even close to anything else in existence. It gives me chills watching these scenes.

[@amidseyed4323]

At 2.15 when you hear BAM, i thought this sound came from the plane but no it is fucking hans zimmer. Sometimes you dont know. Sound and soundtracks are very melted together well

[@JTelli786]

In all honestly I thought it was the sound of the 109s 20mm cannon at first.

[@Snowpeagaming]

I believe 109's shown in this movie didn't have 20mm but 17mm

[@scottweathers1494]

JTelli786 The 109s in this movie didn’t have any cannons, they had only 4 7.92mm machine guns.

[@connorbranscombe6819]

Yeah if the 109 had the 20mm he wouldnt have survived that first pass.

[@loydhackman6855]

That Bam sound was coming from the string hits on the cello. Sadly this did not make it on the soundtrack.

[@joshuapatrick682]

The spitfire man, what a plane! Also, think he slipped his Bane voice in there briefly.

[@mikephi24]

NOBODY CARED WHO I WAS UNTIL I PUT ON THE MASK!

[@copaceticetal]

That second "enemy" plane that strafes Fortis 1 (Tom Hardy) obviously had just shot down Fortis Leader, an event neither of the two other pilots took notice of which makes that German plane feel like a slasher movie villain. Its like Fortis Leader just disappeared.

[@soap_off]

this scene can still be improved but to my eyes this is the best WWII dogfight scene i ever saw

[@maxshakirov]

Ukrainian here...what I admire here as a pure shot of reality of the moment. You have to outwit your opponent, and there isn't cheesy way to do it. You either can do it or not, and that defines the outcome in the end!

[@BreezyE-d3n]

Brit here.... thank you and give em hell...

[@NotEvenDeathCanSaveU]

Yes, but if you get confronted by an ace, you are pretty much done if theres no one to help you, he'll just have it super easy. Modern dogfight trainings proved this quite a lot, and the more experienced guy can many times even come ahead even if hes in a considerable disadvantage. And I dont mean it on the current conflict or w/e, that is a bit other story, ukraine was basically thrown under the bus by the whole west, its being used for a proxy war and money laundering. NATO just had to try and see where the limits are, and so they did, now they have the purpose again they were trying to get so desperately for around 40 years now. People of your country failed to take their country back from these politicians selling you out for over a decade now, and when the things go south, they have the audacity to ask you to fight for them, after they kept undermining the security of your country for a long time. Its pretty sad, similar is happening in my country.

[@kodacv1612]

If your 3 wing strong aerial fighting group gets engaged by a SINGLE enemy airplane You probably do not have to "outwit" him

[@derekwischmann6123]

The fact that pilots can identify and decide to act so quickly is remarkable. I am in awe of the UK Spitfire pilots of WW2.

[@thepoorkid6004]

Also gotta acknowledge the fact they had no radar to detect the enemies whereabouts this early in the war

[@angusmcculloch6653]

Why? They were getting absolutely trounced before Hitler went batshit insane and started making the Luftwaffe target London. The RAF was on the verge of decisive and final defeat.

[@derekwischmann6123]

@@angusmcculloch6653 Someone is delusional!