DUNU DAVINCI DEFINITIVE REVIEW

[@jayyaudio]

Typo for the Hype 2 EQ, supposed to be: Low-shelf, 100hz, +2-3dbs, Q factor 0.5 👍 Testing equipment: TOPPING G5, stock cable, S&S tips/ sancai/ divinus, songs are listed in the test playlist + more

[@Oun104]

Great review as always man Thanks for being honest ❤

[@haomingli6175]

when we hear bass, we are not just hearing what goes on in the bass frequencies. rather, we are hearing "bass instruments", which have frequency components in the mids and treble, and these things will determine the speed and texture of the bass. if you play audio that contains only 20-300hz frequencies, you will hear that there is no "attack" or "texture" in the sound at all.

[@HobbyTalk]

Haven’t tried the Ziigaat offerings… but I loved DaVinci bass, found it very enjoyable.

[@jayyaudio]

Ya it was fun!

[@Hijynx87]

You would love the doscinco! If you like the hype 4, it’s basically that but not quite as resolving…it’s like 90% of the hype 4

[@HobbyTalk]

@@Hijynx87 I didn’t mind hype 2 and 4 but I found them a pinch shouty for me. Would like to try the Ziigaat offerings

[@Hijynx87]

​@@HobbyTalkActually you might like the aful explorer more, but I don't consider the doscinco shouty at all. The Hype 4 is more vocal forward.

[@StarBuccaneers168]

Thanks, welcome back. The boy came from his trip as a new man. Excited to see updates on your collab!

[@jayyaudio]

thank you man

[@benmacdhui]

Honest review Jay. I agree 👍🏻

[@torjones-7]

I love my Doscinco. Paired with ifi XBass ... *chef's kiss*. I was expecting you comparison with the DaVinci. Great review!

[@Morphishful]

Totally agree. The Cincotres is a more technically proficient set with better micro details and less BA timbre. But the Davinci is a lot of fun to listen to. I don't regret the purchase. But I'd rec the Cincotres above it for sure. And the Supermix4 has even more resolution. At a lower price. What a time to be alive.

[@jayyaudio]

Yup

[@Hijynx87]

I just got the sm4, color me impressed! Between that and aful explorer I'm very satisfied in my sub $150 range. I think I like the sm4 over the cklvx as well..... id still have to a/b them. The Sliivo mk2 might be bettter though.

[@kr33k00]

Yeah, but what to buy between the DaVinci, the EM10 and the Project Jay?

[@Morphishful]

@@kr33k00 I've only heard the DaVinci out of those three. It is one of the more fun and satisfying IEMs I've heard (especially in that price range). But if you are a detail-head (as I am) or timbre-head, you might look elsewhere.

[@elasmojones]

Very pleased with my Davinci with SS tips.

[@anomgus8277]

I love the DaVinci bass, it very soft, enjoyable, like the purring cat, the best to chill listen while sitting in bus after work

[@AronAddams7]

Great review man. Its nice to see a bit different take on it.

[@AndrewYouTubehandle]

Nice review as always. I got the Davinci and love them for all the genres I listen to, including classical and dance. They've replaced my Pilgrims (disappointed by the lack of engagement) and my Simgot EA400lm (which i loved). I love the DaVinci for demale vocals such as Loreena Mckennit and for tracks by Louis Armstrong that some IEMs really have a hard time with. Also prefer the DaVinci with the likes of the Kodo drummers. They pair beautifully with the Onix Alpha dac.

[@xxxDMxxx]

Good to hear that, I already got Onix Alpha and Im planning to get the DaVincis :)

[@millsjonah]

I was going to get the DaVinci, but the nozzle size is just too chunky for my ears. I'm very satisfied with the Cincotres, but it's maybe missing some treble detail retrieval for me.

[@LyuboA]

my Doscinco and Davinci are almost 1 to 1 on Bass but Doscinco is a little more detailed that been said i really live both and these plus Letshuoer S15 and Kefine Delci are now my daily drivers btw for anyone that likes Doscinco and Davinci you will also really like Letshuoer S15 it's a planar but it literally has DD quality Bass Letshuoer has new cheaper planar with the same tuning S08 so you may try it instead of S15 but trust me it's nothing like other planars on the market

[@c4monkey]

For a budget planar, Artti t10 also has that dd like bass and vocals especially with some eq and tip rolling. Best bang for the buck so far for me. Lacks in resolution and details when a/b with pricier sets but just by itself, it's great

[@flashjor98]

It's a really good set for passive listening. Love mine.

[@jayyaudio]

Yup, thick and fun bass

[@chinmayrasam]

Checkout the IO audio volare and Dita Project M

[@lmartins2797]

How does Yanyin Canon II compare with DaVinci ? Thanks for the review !

[@jayyaudio]

Haven’t heard yet sorry

[@jaroslavfricek7772]

Thanks for the review 👍 ❗️I am just writing this in response seeing your ranking list. I have to say I have both og Oracle and Symphonium Meteor and for me if Oracle is 7.5 then Meteor is 9😆❤️ I have been listening to both IEM for quite some time and I have the Meteor in higher and higher regards longer I own them 😎🙋‍♂️

[@jayyaudio]

great sets~

[@EricJorgensen1]

Thanks for this

[@quantum_m3chan1c]

Is anyone else having a hard time fitting these in their ear canal? The port itself is HUGE and i've tried all of the tips... it hurts to try to press it in and I just feel metal and the thing is not sitting flush in my ear at all.

[@jayyaudio]

Ya it’s huge lol

[@kr33k00]

❤

[@walkerstandard2373]

New glasses just dropped that’s crazy

[@jayyaudio]

🫡

[@misterfinerthings]

Jay, do you think the Aful Explorer is worth adding to the collection? I'm looking for a good relaxing set. The Explorer sounds promising.

[@LyuboA]

yes the Explorer has very relaxed and smooth tuning with very good sub and mid bass with slow decay so it's a warm set but done very nice i wasn't thinking about it but ones i heard it i gotta get it it's good that it's cheap

[@bhavearth]

Yes aful explorer the perfect alternative

[@jayyaudio]

Ya they’re nice

[@misterfinerthings]

Thanks gents.

[@JohnClarkW]

@@misterfinerthings I have Doscinco and still enjoy the Explorer, which says a lot about how good the Explorer is, and the Explorer is crazy smooth, but doesn't have much sparkle to it.

[@TonkyTronicus]

Have a good week, bro.

[@jayyaudio]

You too bro

[@veratium]

Dusk bass EQ’d is awesome

[@rustyshakelford1466]

Why I skipped the Davinci, Hype 4, and 61T: Just too much bass. I get that people like "fun" tunings but when I'm paying for this level of IEM I want detail to be the focus, so I'm more attracted to sets with lower and more linear bass.

[@kr33k00]

Bro what’s the price for row #26 in the ranking list?

[@lordofhell]

Nice review! The MidFi scene is changing because of the offerings from Low/ChiFi. Would you be able to get your hands on the 7hz Five and compare to its peers? Thanks!

[@jayyaudio]

yup on the way

[@kozuta8858]

havent saw you without the sunglasses yet 🥵🥵

[@PerfectViolation]

I simp for Jay 🔥

[@Gustavo-gh8ym]

The guy is hot... I'm not guy but also not blind

[@nashdiz]

Binary Dynaquattro review coming?

[@WillA-wf4uu]

How does CKLXV compare with DaVinci and Project Jays

[@jayyaudio]

Check ranking list

[@shaunbrady15]

Bro Davinci is solid. Use wider tips and it helps

[@PerfectViolation]

Post tip Shaun!

[@jayyaudio]

It is solid, like I said in the video. I tried Sancai, S&S, and others

[@Steve11079]

Cant wait for the oracle mk3 review

[@xeabel]

Miss the old classes 😔

[@haomingli6175]

also there is no real correlation between the number of cross-overs and smoothness/resolution. the more cross-overs you have, the easier it is to tune to a specific frequency response. however, the target frequency response itself might not be a smooth one. and davinci doesn't graph smooth in the treble, especially on 5128 rigs. i think this is on purpose and it is trying to mimic studio 4 in the treble, where there is a dip around 8-10k (on 5128, with tilted DF as baseline) and a peak after that. So vocals don't sound grating but airiness to the instruments is still preserved.

[@damtran993]

welcome back from your well-deserved trip Jay! So, after all the crazy hype for this IEM, this is quite ... disappointing lol. The syrup analogy is great, giving me a good chuckle lol. I'm a details/resolution-oriented guy, therefore the lackluster technicality of this IEM means absolutely a no-go for me, especially when there are IEMs that perform better technicality-wise at nearly half its price. The 4 great pillars at mid-fi market still remain at Hype 4, Pilgrim, EM10 & epz 530 for me. Next stop: Oracle MK3 mate !!

[@Viewer13128]

Great review. Is it confirmed the Doscinco has unit variation, not silent retuned?

[@jayyaudio]

Ya variations

[@Viewer13128]

@@jayyaudio Ty for the confirmation! Based on comments I've read, does it mean that the Doscinco's variation is so bad that ppl thought it was retuned? They said it sounds completely different. Are we able to send it back if we receive one that has variation?

[@jayyaudio]

@@Viewer13128that I’m not sure about, you’ll have to ask linsoul

[@bozardo101]

I have the Hype 4 and I think the timbre on the Da Vinci is MUCH MUCH better. The Hype 4 sounds artifical compared to the Da Vinci in my opinion. Both are good IEMs and I still think the Da Vinci is definitely worth it or at least trying it out. Keep in mind this is subjective sound.

[@jayyaudio]

What do you mean by artificial? I haven’t heard anyone say the timbre is artificial lol

[@bozardo101]

@jayyaudio What I mean is that the treble can sometimes be "scratchy" on the hype 4 compared to the da vinci. The da vinci sounds smoother on the upper range. I am not sure if this is the correct way to say it but maybe the Hype 4 is way "too sparkly" where it can sound scratchy sometimes. Like I think even the Tanchjim Origin and the Da Vinci are smoother and less scratchy compared to the Hype for in the upper range. I hope it makes sense. I would like to hear from your perspective as well what you think

[@TheRebelLion13]

Hey! What happened to your groovy dot-matrix shades!? Where's Jay??? What have you done to the real Jay?!?!?! Jaaaaayyyyyyy........!!!

[@AliR03]

RIP 🕶

[@nyandavid]

got mine after 1 whole month of waiting, very different to my Moondrop Variations, very mid bassy, more musically then vocal, there is some flaw, and it definitely not as detailed, still i will keep it curious what your view on Davinci, maybe Hype 4 still better value than Davinci?

[@Daniel-lq5qq]

Has the Variations better vocals? Hype 4 should be better a little

[@jayyaudio]

Hype 4 better imo

[@JFKaufmann]

Did you use foam tips for the testing? I ask because that increases the sense of boomy bass, congestion and lack of detail. The DaVinci really start to shine with wide bore tips like the Spinfit W1, the Tangzu Sancai or the Divinus Velvet wide bore. Hope this helps to get the most from them.

[@jayyaudio]

I only use wide bores, Sancai, divinus, S&S, tried many, but the bass is always boomy

[@Tsukasa941]

Great review Jay, bias aside how does this compare to your colab? Looking forward to your thoughts on the s08 mine just shipped from Amazon and will be getting them in a week

[@jayyaudio]

check the ranking list and you'll get your answer ;) S08 and Explorer are unique, hope you like them (and try tip rolling the S08)

[@mayonotes9849]

Bro why would you ask him to compare with his own collaboration, of course he's gonna say his is better.

[@k.w5804]

I got them for the accessories, look, and bass. Why? Cuz I didn't know project jay's coming!

[@jayyaudio]

Haha

[@wiesolos]

Bro got new eyeglasses

[@pleasehelp623]

Havent watched yet, (waiting for premiere) but have you tried it on low power source like dongle or phone? Ive heard davinci doesnt do better at high power and im liking it a lot compared to other iems just on android which is plenty power for it Satisfying bass, Amazing treble and not sibilant

[@jayyaudio]

Tested with topping G5

[@LKsai4D4]

Great review as always, Jay. However, I do feel the Hype 2 is a step down in terms of technical performance in comparison to the DaVinci. To me, it sounds a bit too dark. Not by a lot, but enough for it to not fall into my preference. The DaVinci goes for a similar sound but the bass hits noticibly harder and has more detail (not basshead level obvi but pretty hard) and it's treble may be smooth, but it is nuanced (at least to my ears). Maybe I'm crazy, but the Hype 2 doesn't even compete (in terms of detail retrieval) with the best $200 iems. Outside of the Hype 2 mention, I pretty much agree with everything else

[@jayyaudio]

That's most likely a qc issue with your unit, the Hype 2s sounds more detailed, and graphs so, the bass does hit harder on the Davincis tho

[@anatol1204]

I wish they could make it custom.Lot of us with small ears feel unlucky not to be able to wear these multi driver iems

[@jayyaudio]

Haha custom costs a lot lol

[@anatol1204]

​@@jayyaudioyes but customs and ups (return..) are costlier..😅

[@coderintrovert]

Please review Ziigaat Arete

[@jayyaudio]

I’ll try to get my hands on one

[@brijidolerma9447]

Hey budd..what iem do you recommend for hip-hop..rap..some rock, edm..etc..i dont listen to much classical or "romantic songs" lol. Price range. 300-400 bucks! Thanks man.

[@jayyaudio]

Project Jay for more details, or Hype 4 for more bass presence

[@brijidolerma9447]

@@jayyaudio thank you!!!!

[@jakeRemains]

Ight.........where is jay at ?

[@Smackedem]

Audio levels are low again homie.

[@jayyaudio]

Oh snap, thanks for letting me know homie

[@tanjacky5780]

😎Sunglasses？

[@jayyaudio]

Next vid

[@watdanot5076]

🧃👂🦋redundant? Excited for project jay💪

[@Mixail747]

wdym, like, artificial flavoring?

[@jayyaudio]

No like the sound is more different, hence maple vs regular syrup

[@chinmayrasam]

Why are all IEM graphs U shaped, no matter how neutral they are claimed to be? Headphone graphs are flat in the bass and mids with peaks in the treble. Speaker graphs are straight line all the way. Is that why speaker audiophiles hate IEMs and headphones?

[@jayyaudio]

You mean balanced? If it’s a straight line it’s neutral, if it’s U-shaped some people say it’s balanced

[@chinmayrasam]

@@jayyaudio I mean neutral. no IEM has a straight line. It's always a gentle U. For instance even the Mega5est which is considered neutral with the best mids is a U. The mids are lower compared to the bass and treble. But that's not the case with open back headphones. They mostly have a straight line with the bass. And speakers have a straight line all the way. The ultimate goal of speaker guys is to get a straight line (from my understanding.) But even with the straight line, the speaker or headphone doesn't sound neutral. Even headphones with rumbly bass have a straight line with the bass. Why is the difference? Are IEMs are speakers incapable of delivering all frequencies to their fullest.

[@Morphishful]

@@chinmayrasam It's because an IEM bypasses all the outer ear anatomy that focuses and amplifies some frequencies while de-emphasizing others. Speakers in a room get to interact with your whole head. IEM just gets your ear canal and has to do the work of boosting/damping some frequencies the way your outer ear would have. That's one of the reasons why IEM preferences are so subjective. We all have differently-shaped outer ears. Speaker preferences on "realism" are a lot more uniform from one person to the next.

[@chinmayrasam]

@@Morphishful thabk thank you for the explanation

[@molin1978]

Maybe I rushed to buy DaVincis... based on all previous reviews, I thought these will be perfect for me. I love bass, but on the other hand I also like the sparkliness in the treble and davincis are little bit too neutral in the treble region. You should do this review a month ago 😅

[@jayyaudio]

was on vacation haha

[@damtran993]

The IEM is a Timmy's collab and also from Dunu, hence the tendency to say good things about it within the audio community in general and reviewer's circle in particular, and also, monthly FOMO hype plays a big part as well. After all, the only thing you should trust is your own ears.

[@demondjackson2875]

Jay!! My Doscinco were not bassy

[@jayyaudio]

uh oh unit variance here we go

[@igorzovko5854]

You didn't mention your testing equipment ( source, dac , dongle , amp, cable, tips....) . What music do you use for testing? Jazz, classical, indie, rock, blues ?...or cartoon music , i.e. modern pop music (not related with true pop music Brian Ferry, Ledisi, Rufus Wainwright...). Without that your review is no valid...shallow at best. 80% suscribers cannot affort $300 iem , so respect them and try to give more important information. Don't get me wrong ..I like you and your reviews...it's just me ..old grumbler.

[@jayyaudio]

Playlist is in the description Topping G5, stock cable, Sancai/S&S tips

[@igorzovko5854]

​​@@jayyaudiothanks for your quick response. Testing Devinci I notice few interesting facts. Avoid Topping nx7 and any dongle solution . Avoid Topping desktop amps. Sound directly from smarthphone ( Redmi 9) is suprisingly engaging and correct . Fantastic and endgame sound with Xduoo ta-26 , Beyerdynamic A20 and Xduoo ta-22 / Van dem hull The first ultimate interconect/ Topping D30pro/ Audioqiest carbon/ Dunu 75 Ohm adapter/ Tidal . So, in conclusion...Devinci responce from moody to well controled sound depending on equipment...wondering...is it G5 enough to evaluete Devinci ? Warm regards.

[@lercorbu9242]

Worst iem ever in my life i will put Timmy(Gizaudio) in my blacklist.

[@jayyaudio]

LOL

[@PoFryRice]

I actually have the opposite thoughts on DaVinci vs Doscinco. While the Doscinco is slightly more technical, airy, and vocals are cleaner, I think the DaVinci is more energetic and fun to listen to (I go to a lot of metal/rock concerts so I do have a slight preference for upfront sounds). I find my DaVinci unit's bass much more impactful and smoother than the Doscinco and I listen to mostly metal/rock. I do listen at higher volumes than most people so that might be a factor as well besides the potential unit variations.

[@jayyaudio]

Oh that's probably a different unit where the Dos had less mid-bass/low-end in general, but ya you'd be right in that case

[@PancakeAndRiley]

I agree that the Davinci doesn't compete with peers in its price range. The CKLVX/Pula PA02 has better bass in my opinion, is half the price, and is more detailed.

[@CovertOperative]

Da Vinci are fundamentally flawed in the low frequencies that adversely imoacts the clarity and tonality of the mid-range