dupreeh opens up on Vitality & Astralis; is MR12 any good? | HLTV Confirmed S6E71

dupreeh joins HLTV Confirmed to talk about his record-setting career, winning the Paris Major, getting benched in Vitality, and his plans for the future. Other topics are MR15 vs. MR12 debate, flusha retirement, VP getting n0rb3r7 back, and Gamers8 results.
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0:00 - Podcast intro
2:51 - Introducing dupreeh
Hot seat with dupreeh
4:31 - dupreeh became dad!
6:58 - Winning the Major
9:11 - Ranking Paris Majot win
11:51 - Coming into Paris Major
18:25 - Weak Major?
21:56 - What it takes to win?
26:35 - Getting benched by Vitality
33:15 - “I don’t feel like I’m finished” - dupreeh
35:55 - Dealing with benching
42:20 - “I want to play the new game” - dupreeh
44:00 - dupreeh’s legacy
47:03 - Would dupreeh be IGL?
48:41 - dupreeh’s memories
56:26 - dupreeh on CS2
58:30 - MR12 - VoxPop by 22BET
1:03:10 - Nerves of Steel by SteelSeries
1:06:07 - Beast teammate ever?
1:07:00 - 3 favorite achievements?
1:08:57 - device or ZywOo?
1:12:31 - Why did dupreeh REALLY leave Astralis?
1:19:10 - Partner system
1:21:48 - “There’s no bad blood between me & zonic” - dupreeh
Recent news
1:25:15 - Emotional throwback break
1:29:04 - “We could have shorter games with MR15”
1:34:37 - The meaning of observers
1:35:45 - MR12 from the industry perspective
1:51:09 - VP bring back n0rb3r7
2:01:45 - flusha retires from CS
2:07:11 - Skinionaire by TradeIt.gg
Gamers8
2:15:15 - Overall G8 impressions
2:19:33 - G2
2:25:10 - ENCE
2:31:00 - Cloud9
2:32:55 - Vitality win, jump to #1
2:38:25 - NAVI; s1mple not insane anymore?
HLTV Confirmed is a CS:GO (Counter-Strike: Global Offensive) talk show featuring Chad "SPUNJ" Burchill, Zvonimir "Professeur" Burazin, and Milan "Striker" Švejda, with guest appearances from community members such as s1mple, device, ropz, Twistzz, karrigan, shox, TaZ, GeT_RiGhT, HenryG, JW, smooya, YNk, Maniac, Pimp, seang@res, CarlosR, and more. The show is based around interviews, breakdowns, analysis, and discussions about the esports and casual side of Counter-Strike.
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[@daansmits8345]

I love how emotionally mature dupreeh is. He's mature enough to consider the different sides of his benching. But he's also mature enough to openly share his frustration and disappointment.

[@arep7771]

u can see he almost cry every time he talk about that matter(his future n benching) but for some reason it sound super depressing when he talk in gloomy voice n thing he say. i just hope when he know hes done done(in csgo or cs2 which i think gonna be soon) he can fully move on cuz the way he express himself here sound like the guy that is ready to commit sudoku.

[@ALYPE]

@@arep7771 You sound like you need a therapist

[@arrowlance7569]

@@arep7771 seppuku?

[@tylerfedeli2004]

@@arep7771 LOL WHAT IS THIS COMMENT

[@ThomasTheConqueror]

Dupreeh, I miss you 😢

[@sargeant45]

I love dupreeh, nothing will ever match the comradery of that original astralis core for me... What a beautiful team, with amazingly consistent players from top to bottom. Dupreeh you are one of my absolute GOAT players and I can't wait to see you back in T1 cs.

[@fVNzO]

He has to be a top 5 player of all time simply because he has every single major attendance and 5 wins. Not to mention to highest earnings ever iirc. Puts him above many other players with higher ratings.

[@valdemar91]

By original do you mean the Karrigan, Kjaerbye, Dupreeh, Xyp9x, Dev1ce, or do you mean the 2018-2020 iteration?

[@WesthCo]

@@valdemar91 in what world is Karrigan, Kjaerbye, Dupreeh, Xyp9x, Dev1ce an original lineup? :D

[@jimmycallens5237]

The one and only GOAT!

[@AsgerSchmidt]

Most lovable guy in cs.❤

[@andreasargyrou9758]

2:20:00 That explanation about G2's lost was super accurate from Spunj. Its a very common scenario even in lower level , where your best player is trying to the play because he feels he has to. And suddenly he is dead 2-3 rounds in a row at the start of it.

[@rekonmaster]

I swear to god if dupreeh joins gamer leagion they will be very strong in cs2

[@Kerttis]

im not sure if he would do any better of a job than keoz does

[@d.cirovic1695]

​@@Kerttisnot necessarily stats wise. But a super veteran like dupreeh will give different things.

[@rekonmaster]

brush keoz does like 0.5 rating vs top teams @@Kerttis

[@Cxs1a3]

💩

[@janoycresva919]

0:00 - Podcast intro 2:51 - Introducing dupreeh Hot seat with dupreeh 4:31 - dupreeh became dad! 6:58 - Winning the Major 9:11 - Ranking Paris Majot win 11:51 - Coming into Paris Major 18:25 - Weak Major? 21:56 - What it takes to win? 26:35 - Getting benched by Vitality 33:15 - “I don’t feel like I’m finished” - dupreeh 35:55 - Dealing with benching 42:20 - “I want to play the new game” - dupreeh 44:00 - dupreeh’s legacy 47:03 - Would dupreeh be IGL? 48:41 - dupreeh’s memories 56:26 - dupreeh on CS2 58:30 - MR12 - VoxPop by 22BET 1:03:10 - Nerves of Steek by SteelSeries 1:06:07 - Beast teammate ever? 1:07:00 - 3 favorite achievements? 1:08:57 - device or ZywOo? 1:12:31 - Why did dupreeh REALLY leave Astralis? 1:19:10 - Partner system 1:21:48 - “There’s no bad blood between me & zonic” - dupreeh Recent news 1:25:15 - Emotional throwback break 1:29:04 - “We could have shorter games with MR15” 1:34:37 - The meaning of observer 1:35:45 - MR12 from industry perspective 1:51:09 - VP bring back n0rb3r7 2:01:45 - flusha retires from CS 2:07:11 - Skinionaire by TradeIt.gg Gamers8 2:15:15 - Overall G8 impressions 2:19:33 - G2 2:25:10 - ENCE 2:31:00 - Cloud9 2:32:55 - Vitality win, jump to #1 2:38:25 - NAVI; s1mple not insane anymore?

[@weedosh]

We need Apex or Magsik on the show! ❤ Would be amazing to hear from them about the dupreeh situation and more!

[@madsrishoj]

Get Zonic. Would be nice to hear from a coach again as well.

[@jordanlimantara1814]

Would love to tune in on a dupreeh stream😊 Hearing him say xyp9x was his favorite teammate made me smile😊

[@zeddy88]

same but a while ago he was asked the same thing and he said zonic\

[@ssss22041]

@@zeddy88 yeah and now zonic basically stabbed him in the back, so no wonder that has changed

[@ujaku_]

I'm happy to see dupreeh continue. I hope he will try another international team perhaps

[@esox86new]

Patrik Lindberg and you my man the true goats of CS. I hope we can see you 2 play in T1 soon.

[@Jonsson95]

I enjoyed the discussion around mr12 but there is 1 point I havent heard. Why mr12 specifically? Why not mr13? One thing I dislike about mr12 is that half can end in a tie. In mr13 one team always wins the half just like in mr15.

[@raz6446]

U will see why mr12 is so bad with CS

[@Jonsson95]

@@raz6446 I havent tried mr12 but on paper definitely prefer mr15. I just enjoy the discussion around it. I would make matches shorter by reducing round time 1:55->1:45 and bomb timer 40->35sec (also defuse without kits 8sec).

[@raz6446]

@@Jonsson95 I see valve really tried to make the game really fast paced like val

[@vedser]

@@raz6446u will see why mr12 is so good with cs

[@weagles_fan7467]

@@Jonsson95 Off the top of my head, the round and bomb timers you mentioned are about what they were in pro play years ago, until Valve decided that they wanted to keep it the same across both matchmaking and pro play. They lengthened out the pro rounds and slightly shortened the matchmaking version (it was 2:00 rounds and 45 second bomb).

[@xlpha888]

Bit of a hot take but i think closing the "partner teams' system is a wrong call for the scene. People say that this decision will bring in more orgs but tbh looking from org's perspective, any org will be much less enthusiastic on spending knowing that their team might not even qualify. This will straight up discourage them from picking up teams. Also, benching and changing players will also take a hugh hit as any team which swaps player takes a hugh hit in ranking and thus missing out on invited slots. Idk, lets see.

[@decadent5341]

Would love a bigger throwback show as a closing chapter of csgo. Invite Walle, Taz, Potti, Threat, Zonic and some of those dudes

[@caesarsco]

On the topic of Ax1Le playing worse recently - he definitely seems to be being pushed towards going for more T-side entries. Seems much more aggressive in this version of C9 than the one of old. Might need more sample size to find out if this is true but on maps like Vertigo & Anubis he seemed to be very regularly challenging for openings, which I don't really associate with Ax1Le's normal playstyle. His T side rating in this new C9 is abysmal. In 2022, his T side rating was 1.11 vs Top 30 teams. Tied 4th highest in the world with KSCERATO, the only 2 riflers in the Top 5. In the last 3 months, his T side rating is 1.01 vs Top 30. Big drop off.

[@8milestreet]

Dupreeh is such a good sport

[@Astrix321]

i think he hides really well how much it really hurt him.. and the fact that he has a family surely helped him in the process because family life instantly took over like he says

[@FireBreathingg]

Imagine having Dupreeh in your team

[@Spetsnazty]

We all love dupreeh.

[@rasmuserikandersen4786]

I bought red Adidas panths with White stripes bc of dupreeh wearing them during lock down:)

[@UNSCRIPTEDCORNER-]

Dup Dup. legend❤❤

[@Valtemar69420]

he deserves better

[@Astrix321]

imagine if dupreeh went back to astralis instead of trash borup.. dupreeh and devve back together would be a dream.

[@Shanarai]

Even if Dupreeh wants to have more success and play on a good team, I just don’t see any team of that championship caliber looking for a roster change right now, let alone wanting him. It is unfortunate for him as he would have won more tournaments and maybe a major next year if he was still in Vitality.

[@thesilentassassin1167]

Return to Astralis makes most sense imo, they should remove Borup, or maybe eveb Ence, as strong as Ence has been lately, Dycha is their obvious weak link, would love to see Dupreeh Replace him

[@Shanarai]

@@thesilentassassin1167 Astralis could work for him. The problem is his age, he doesn’t have many years left and he is past his prime so I don’t know whether Astralis want to have a player that will be replaced not long after. It could be bad for team stability.

[@GulagEnjoyer]

@@Shanaraiage don’t mean anything you got brainwashed and btw he won last Major while younger and more fresh players didn’t even qualify, Monesy Niko, s1mple b1t Electronic, Broky twistzz Ropz they all failed to win last major. Navi and G2 even failed to qualify to playoffs lmao, Monesy never played on Major playoffs after he joined G2 so there goes your younger generation. Dupreeh is experienced and an elite player a legend. Vitality wouldn’t be able to do shit without him or Magisk as they didn’t before them. They already lost Cologne with Flamez.

[@Shanarai]

@@GulagEnjoyer I hope Dupreeh will get a good team. Since he got replaced on Vitality, it is not fun watching the team play now.

[@jrmayun]

@@GulagEnjoyer they already won without him as well.

[@christiansrensen3675]

golden drops :))))

[@JustusS2036]

bookmark: 1:51:00

[@beastfr0meast93]

It should be easy to fix aim gear. No one can move the mouse in a straight line.

[@haggai6964]

dupreeh to heroic

[@chase4013]

Idk 6-6 at halftime seems weird. At least needs to be mr13 so someone can be up at half imo.

[@roblovvorn8564]

MR12 Economy Round Win=$3750 -same Bomb plant and defusal bonus T Loss Bonus 1-$2000 2-$2500 3-$3000 4-$3500 CT Loss Bonus 1-$2250 2-$2750 3-$3250 4-$3750 After Pistol rounds both teams get an extra $1000 per player Ex: 2nd round: winning team about $5000 each; losing team about $3000 each

[@Khneefer]

You can made MR15 shorter - just add "save option" for: -CTs after bomb plant, -Ts when is low time (30s?) or number advantage of CTs (2 or more?). Saving team has bigger propabality of succesfull save, so they are incourage do use this option. After save is call, there round is over with this standard few secound of delay (as after normal end of round. It would be a vouloutary option - you can always choose to not save (almost instantend of round) and go for a clutch. With this We would ge shorter matches, but same number of round.

[@J0EN1DAS]

imagine g2 add dupreeh

[@quincylinder9738]

Gotta say, I just think about adblock as objectively saving me time and cleaning up cluttery websites. I dont feel at all for the advertisers. The internet would be much cleaner to look at without them. Especially the fake download button ads. Those guys should get lined up against a wall

[@LevelTheOrange]

take a shot everytime dupreeh says in some sense

[@noiceman]

No more comebacks with MR12.

[@Spetsnazty]

but less saving, which im sick of

[@noiceman]

@@Spetsnazty let's just do away with the economy then. We can call it counter duty 2.

[@tech4172]

Great seeing Dupreeh. @ the part about ads and adblocker ur sitting there doing the same thing the people ur talking shit on by thinking you have the right to tell them to use or not use something just a thought. Once hltv started throwing ads after ads every 5 secs even if u exit them I'd use a fucking adblocker as well kinda annoying when ur trying to look at something or even a few things and you have so many things on ur mind and then these stupid ads that ruin the experience just start blocking everything we saw it start when prof through the hltv twitch stream sub only like u guys don't get paid enough??. Most the ads are just useless

[@thejoe9065]

Yea i mean, let everyone use it or not. He uses adblocker too, just not on HLTV. so he cares about his own but other companies (there is humans like spunj working too!) he doesnt care. thats understandable, but u cant get mad on others who also use adblock in their own "bubble". but well, its just typical Spunj the preacher, dont put too much into it, he just gets emotional, which is completely cool. i remember hltv from the beginning, dont remember that many ads. they have increased to a point that ppl are fed up, which is why adblockers exist. not my problem. find a better way of making money then. sorry spunj, dont wanna make u mad. :l

[@dalr5803]

No hesitation, he said zywoo. Fuck all people who don't take in consideration skill, just trophies. zywoo the real goat.

[@garbandgulyberdimuhamedow4604]

Nope

[@44r0n-9]

he didn't say ZywOo was the GOAT...

[@vedser]

Lol

[@l1ghtningcs]

What if Dupreeh Xyp9x Gla1ve Acor/nicodoz And then an anchor like mistr

[@killerh8486]

not hapenning xd

[@l1ghtningcs]

@@killerh8486 if it happens you owe me 1000 usd

[@k4lternate]

Why would acor leave GL for this team lmao

[@l1ghtningcs]

@@k4lternate i said acor/nicodoz. And iys hypothetical

[@janoycresva919]

Average hltv armchair take

[@VERYR4RE]

prof needs to get rid of the comb over

[@swaghaver56]

JUST SAY "THORIN AND HIS BOYFRIENDS" - QUIT TREADING LIGHTLY (1:10:41)

[@phips914]

MR15 matches that don't go to overtime certainly are NOT too long. jesus. what happened to people's attention spans??? if you want the matches to be shorter then just cap the # of overtimes at two and after the 2nd overtime make it a BO1 round.

[@Richard68434]

love the man, the most decorated player/bigger winner in csgo, but clearly his time has past lol.

[@Andy-kv3xy]

How is it clear? Please enlighten me, he just won Rio and Paris

[@Richard68434]

@@Andy-kv3xy 1. He’s got 0.90 ratings for a second entry and anchor. Thats worse performance than apex who is first entry and a bait for zywoo. And he is igling. 2. He was carried to victory in Paris, unlike the first 4 major where he performed stellar and took himself to victory. 3. Enlighten yourself Go watch a game of his for yourself. He could barely react in time against all the little kids peeking him.

[@Andy-kv3xy]

Haha you are exactly what he refered to in this pod when he said all people care about nowadays is stats, all good, you do you bud!

[@Richard68434]

@@Andy-kv3xy dont ask to be "enlightened" and then get triggered over the first 5 words next time. you didnt read the part where i highlighted he has decent spots to play with, but has worse performance than apex who clear and away has the worstspots? and are you going to deny his reaction time has became so slow that you can see people peeking and then one tapping him before he could even react? or are you too emotionally hurt to read past that portion?

[@egonzz5494]

@@Andy-kv3xy brother you are coping way too hard if you think dupreeh is still worthy to play in a top 10 team

[@singh9418]

“Community opinion on zywoo” It’s just a fking fact, he drops off against better teams in higher pressure matches. THAT IS WHAT IS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN. Normally you can’t get 1.5 rating every match and every team. He’s still the best player in the world. It’s just when fans start saying this is the best individual level ever and stuff, then sane people pull out the stats and criticise. Ignoring the fact that zywoo performance tapers off in playoffs is that same as ignoring s1mple has dropped off his game entirely. S1 is still probably top 5 player but just not the absolute best.

[@Obantrash]

brother, Maniac made entire spreadsheets debunking this nonsense lmao

[@tracque_5677]

I think the reason people will try to fight against the “drop off” allegations is because it’s a bit disingenuous to say ZyWoo drops off against better opponents. His stats drop off, but not necessarily his level of play. In the same way that plopping a gold nova into a faceit 10 lobby would have their stats drop off, not necessarily their level of play. Playing against better opponents means your stats suffer and you don’t get away with as much even if you play just as well.

[@dinjoe828]

Already debunked by Maniac using raw data and people still thinking they got the facts lmao, looks like your mind is already made up, not even hard statistics can change it.

[@singh9418]

@@tracque_5677 Yes, it’s a given you will have better stats against lower competition. But if actually watched the matches carefully, you will see that he’s not there in some maps of the big matches. And maniac pulling out spreadsheets won’t make a difference when we actually watch the matches with our OWN EYES and see that he’s not playing the same as before or having the same kind of impact. I’m not devaluing him, his performance is insane but it’s just not as game breaking as we see from his counterparts in the biggest matches. I mean when niko carries the team in his entry roles for for consecutive events, even though his stats are worse, you know he’s the reason they are beating the best teams. Zywoo is the best player this year but I don’t like people Maniac covering the obvious. You can see he’s winning the MVPs but he’s not necessarily the strongest factor by a big margin on his team. And I also don’t like how zywoo fans will first compare zywoo and simple, then proceed to completely state s1 career as a toxic baiter AWP abuser, only to get corrected by stats then proceed to say they never said “zywoo was the greatest, only he could be because he played less years, more top 2” blah blah blah.

[@noxzy69]

​@tracque_5677 great point, but his role is star player. Team positioning and strategy is around him, meant to allow him to pop off. This means even though he might mantain the same level of play against better teams, a player of his stature and ability should climb even further in the biggest moments against the biggest teams. That's all thats missing from zywoo's arsenal

[@Keque]

Vitality made a huge mistake.

[@GulagEnjoyer]

I hate Vitality they replaced a legend with most won majors with a kid lmao. Let’s see how they will perform on the upcoming tournaments I mean they already lost Cologne lol. Let’s hope they downgrade and see what kind of mistake they made.

[@patrick8899]

Mr10 would be even better

[@ToniDerAlbaner]

Mr2 bestest

[@jordanlimantara1814]

​@@ToniDerAlbanerknife round tournamenr clear>>>

[@boozecruiser1776]

MR0. Whoever connects to the server the fastest wins the match.

[@ChecksMagee]

Mr10 remove pistols. Remove economy, give everyone 150000 a round, add jet packs and abilities. Make round timers 45 seconds. Double movement speed. Add in killstreaks

[@noiceman]

@@ChecksMagee this. Counter Duty Modern Offensive 2.

[@lawnmowerpeek]

-b0RUP +dupreeh

[@Cxs1a3]

💩

[@altternattive]

Tier 2-3 csgo or valorant bots teams: we missed the fading, showing nothing pensioners

[@vendetta8948]

STEELSERIES

[@KaftermanKafterman]

guys can you put a little bit more GAIN or do something to make youre voices more loud or something? evertytime youre on pick on speakers and if i dont have subs open cant undrstand you