Best Cycling Computers Compared (Avoid these Two)

[@EverythingsBeenDone]

My Breakdown of the HammerHead Karoo2: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bICqlo2YYttphM0

[@KaushikNSanji]

3:16 Your RHR is 37bpm, with a weekly Avg. RHR of 34bpm! You rock dude!

[@ev-ezaye3580]

Ikr.. I'm like wow... that's like deity-level

[@brianwilliam8971]

Wahoo Roam user checking in. Agree about not being able to move the maps around but otherwise it’s solid. Definitely the Nokia brick of GPS LOL. I like the battery life, bigger screen and actually prefer that it’s NOT touchscreen.

[@millardjk]

Bolt v2 user here; same thought, but add that I always ride with my phone as well--in the jersey pocket, not on a mount--and when I need to "move a map around," I pull that out for reference. Not just because the Bolt won't do it, but because the screen is higher res and provides several different apps for map review.

[@billmaidment5623]

Great vid! I went from 10 years of Garmin to Wahoo Roam. I’m so much happier. No more failed uploads and downloads. The Wahoo navigation is solid. My Garmin couldn’t even find my street address!?

[@teddytubey]

That was probably a 10 year old device?

[@billmaidment5623]

@@teddytubey Garmin 1000 and 810. Regardless of age it should be able to find a residential address. Half of the time it dropped signal from the Garmin radar. And the interface is way more complicated than it needs to be. The Wahoo has a retro clunky design but works flawlessly

[@Xelement360X]

I’ve had the Karoo 2 for over 3 months and I charge it once a week, 200 miles and that’s with HR, power, speed and cadence. The updates come once a month. When I sync my routs I use my iPhone just log in to whatever website you use for routes copy link and paste, uploads in seconds. 🤷🏽‍♂️ so far it’s been amazing for me.

[@PaulBeiser]

As always, the best reviews - bar none - on the Internet. Clear, concise, hit the main points, etc etc -- in *4* minutes. Most 'reviewers' would take hours or many pages to do what you do. Bravo! And I've also long been a Garmin FanBoy (just got the 830). Thanks DK!

[@EverythingsBeenDone]

Wow, thanks Paul! You the Man.

[@JakeMay]

The simplicity of Wahoo also makes it for me by far the most functional. I truly can't be bothered with under-performing touch screens, particularly one-handed, whilst I'm riding, in the rain. The physical buttons rule!

[@reidwagner1508]

does wahoo data upload to the Strava app?

[@JakeMay]

@@reidwagner1508 yes

[@fasanojp]

@@reidwagner1508 yes, it does upload to strava.

[@ChryskylodonInstitute]

@@reidwagner1508 yes it does. in phone app you can select where to upload & when you end the ride it uploads automatically. great stuff

[@habanio]

You get the physical buttons on the 830 and 840 too, so you can either use the touch which works great even under the rain and in gloves or navigate using the buttons 😉

[@gingleb3792]

I've never used a desktop to sync my rides on my Hammerhead. I absolutely love it. I do appreciate the battery life could be improved. But I rarely ride for more than 10 hours. No issues

[@outsidebrendan]

1040 solar is GREAT. I’ve had it for two months here in Southern California and I’ve charged it ONCE

[@EverythingsBeenDone]

Oh wow! This is fascinating! color me envious.

[@GarryQuinn]

I’m happy with the Garmin Edge 530 which cost less than £200 in the UK, doesn’t have a touchscreen but the extra that it would cost doesn’t seem worth it.

[@teddytubey]

I also have the 530 and I chose it because of the buttons. I didn't want touchscreen in the rain. I don't know if the 830 has buttons or not.

[@williamhayes215]

​@@teddytubey I bought a 530 because I didn't want a massive 830 on my mountain bike, but I still absolutely love it on the graveler

[@TheOjnop]

Absolutely, the 530 is a great deal compared to others in Garmin’s range. The latest 1050 costs more than a dent smartphone, for goodness sake!

[@lechprotean]

I have both Garmin and Wahoo and use Wahoo everyday, because hey, it's more in your face navigation cues and data fields and physical buttons too. On long adventures I use Garmin as I have an external battery for it which means it can navigate for 60 hours + without recharging.

[@matthewshaw3747]

It’s as if having a back ground in design and being a good communicator makes for good reviews. Thanks again.

[@EverythingsBeenDone]

What would you like to see on the Chopping Block next??

[@matthewshaw3747]

I feel you could work your way through every bike accessory, component and clothing item. I’d watch a video like this on bar tape. But I may be alone in that.

[@reidh]

I'm an Industrial Designer for Garmin and very interested to hear your feedback! I recently started so I haven't been on an edge specific project yet but sure would love the opportunity to make some good changes. I'm spoiled so i'm rocking an edge 1040 solar from around the office

[@markianross]

Interesting - I have the Garmin 530 and the usability of the device is appalling without the touchscreen. The small buttons on either side are really hard to press, especially with gloves on. And the fact that they are on both sides means you have to be careful where you hold the device when pressing the buttons, because often you press the button on the opposite side by mistake. Really think it's something Garmin need to improve - Wahoo is much better with the large square buttons on the front - it's much easier to press down rather than sideways also.

[@reidh]

@@markianross ah! That’s totally an issue. I’m sure people are aware but I’ll reiterate that in some reviews

[@OneBoot1987]

It would be nice to have a button on the device, or a "big red button" in the UI that disables touch input for those rainy days. That's why I went with Wahoo for my first foray into bike computers after using my phone for a while.

[@markianross]

@@charlied1675 yeah another reason I preferred Wahoo over Garmin!

[@strikeIII]

When will we see a USB-C 830?

[@kawabus]

I loved my Wahoo but the maps/directions were lacking. I switched to a Hammerhead and the routes and route correction are next level. Yes the battery does drain rather fast and syncing routes is a pain but you can do it from your phone. I paste in URLs from RWGPS but I hope this is something that can be improved with a future release. Also the hill climbing feature is awesome too

[@jabrobbins]

Agree with Wahoo map complaint. When I get turned around I have to use my phone to navigate. That’s why I download my routes to my phone for offline use.

[@mano212xei]

I disagree on the Karoo 2 needing a desktop to download routes? I’ve done this quite well from my phone. Both creating and finding created routes? Anyway, yes, the battery life could be improved upon. Waiting to see what the Suunto partnership yields. Garmin for sure makes a good product.

[@EverythingsBeenDone]

Very cool I didnt know Hammerhead and Suunto are partnering up!

[@MultigrainKevinOs]

Garmin computers are pretty slick, I went to a Fenix watch to track my biking, swimming, hiking, indoor training etc... It's super versatile, always with me and battery life is incredible. Easy sync to Strava and Garmin's site after each ride automatically and as noted super simple to add your own routes on the fly. Great suggestion on the training content I have yet to try it too. Thanks for the video I know there are wahoo loyalists too that love the product, might need to try one day.

[@gravelpack8536]

Another great video I want to get the explorer 2 as I use my garmin like you do and have the non touch 530. One weird thing I haven’t seen any KZbinr cover is the difference on routes garmin vs rwgps for us gravel goons. If you take the exact same route put in garmin connect then load to unit. Then take rwgps route load to unit both by app. The garmin route will navigate much better. I am a Garmin fanboy but like collections in rwgps and my club has a club account. I find it really weird that the exact same route navigates so much better especially in gravel. Give it a shot and you will see what I mean.

[@JamesShell]

Thank you DK! I roll with a Garmin 830. It works well enough, but I find on longer adventures I'm using my iPhone a lot (as long as there is service) to get more terrain detail and navigate faster around maps. My biggest issue with the 830 is the I need reading glasses to see it once there is no longer full sun, and the screen isn't really that bright. Mine is a few years old and I'm told the newer 830 screens are clearer and brighter. 830 has great battery life if run in battery saver mode.

[@EverythingsBeenDone]

Very interesting points here! Can you zoom in on your 830? I am also quite sure that we can adjust the brightness of the device, I could be wrong?

[@JamesShell]

@@EverythingsBeenDone Ha! Oops. Yes, I can increase the brightness. I ran across brightness during initial setup and was warned about battery life, so I kept it at auto and totally forgot about it 🤭I'll have to do some evening rides with the brightness cranked to compare battery life. Yes, I can zoom in, it's just not quite as good as my phone as you can imagine. I've found on adventure rides, where you are really out there for days at a time, it's nice to have both the Garmin and an app like Ride With GPS in your kit for redundancy.

[@CR250noob95]

My original post has disappeared but for what it's worth I love the Karoo 2. Big enough for the navigation to be useful and shows all the metrics I could want. Doesn't feel as polished and slick as the Garmins I've used in the past but I can live with that.

[@bmhvtt]

So I had a Garmin Edge 520, which was great in its day. I “upgraded” to the Edge 520 plus and it’s turned out to be a half-baked piece of garbage. Maps take forever to load and it’s constantly calculating. It can barely make it through a century in terms of the battery. But I think that there’s one underrated feature with Garmin that keeps me (and will continue to keep me) coming back, which is accident detection. I think it’s so clever and reassuring and I can’t understand why it isn’t an option on other head units.

[@Steve.Alex32]

You are a life saver brother! Looking at getting my hands on a bike computer soon, this helps a bunch! Cheers man 🤙

[@EverythingsBeenDone]

Glad to hear it!

[@AlanJohnsonSunbird]

Thanks Dustin. On another note what top tube bag are you using under your top tube in this video? Your thoughts on it? I’ve purchased a couple but not satisfied yet. Much appreciated.

[@igorgetsin3646]

Garmin Fenix for the win. A do it all watch, can pair it with power meter if you like, I don't have a need for that. Treks your hikes, walks, bike rides, etc....Charge lasts a long time.

[@donaldlewis1836]

Garmin 1030 for me. Sounds like all of the same as +. Great review and I agree with your conclusions.

[@perryvath7617]

I like my edge 530 because it Doesn’t have a touch-screen, which is useless in the hot, high humidity, environments I ride in.

[@daviddougherty114]

Agreed, Garmin Connect to track all your activities and health related statistics from multiple devices plus syncing to almost everywhere else is an excellent way to go for a fairly comprehensive view of your training status and health. Wahoo is trying to get there with the Element Training app but they only have one watch and the bike computers. I think Garmin stands alone in this category. There may be better individual devices amongst the various manfactureres in each category but for the complete package, Garmin is it. With that said, Garmin is far from perfect...I have things I wish were different with all of my Garmin devices: Fenix 6, HRM, Rally power meter pedals, Edge 830, Varia radar, and Varia headlight. But, I don't regret any of those purchases.

[@OriginalGabriel]

The Explore is solid, been using it since the first generation came out

[@marcokalle2452]

Loving the 1030 plus, especially for it's battery life. And if you're off the grid for a loooooong time, you can also get the extra external battery that you can connect underneath the main unit 🤘🏽🤘🏽

[@cb6866]

Thanks your Dudeness..I have an old Edge 520..it's very small and hard to use en route , also a Fenix 5x and a Varia . I am a huge Garmin fan , for the same reasons you mentioned . Even an OAF, half baked , barely sentient person can use em .

[@EverythingsBeenDone]

I am just now catching up to what you have know for some time!!

[@AdamWilkoszarski]

I would love to see a video about your watch and what info from it are you using! What’s the watch btw?

[@bobtilton3024]

Cripes! At $600 why not just use smart phone, Quadlock and lipstick charger? Features galore!

[@jeremyschram1285]

Because running your phone on a 7 hour GPS ride will kill it in no time.

[@LaOwlett]

Why aren't more manufacturers taking advantage of e ink technology to reduce weight and battery use? How often are you riding in the dark? All it would need is a small diffused overhead light, built into a weather hood/deflector to be used in the dark. Digital ink has come a long way in it's refresh rate and can even play video now. It would eliminate the problem of the sun being too bright and having to over illuminate an LCD in order to see it. Garmin! Chop chop! Garmin paperlight gps navigation using e ink! Let's go!!! :D

[@Jean-jk4zv]

Straight to the point !

[@EverythingsBeenDone]

🙌🤙🙌

[@Vegan_Touring_Cyclist]

I have the 830, and sometimes the screen feels too small. When the route is a little bit tricky and the sun is shining it is tricky to see the screen, and the notifications are hardly readable, at any speed, for me at least. Go for the bigger screen! I am thinking about the 1040 solar for a little 25000km trip.

[@andarooo2]

I love the music on all his episodes❤️

[@Fncontroloptioncommand]

I’m on a garmin 530 right now but before that I had a lezyne macro gps. I kind of miss the lezyne in some ways the battery seemed to last forever!

[@mipko]

Garmin have edge 530 which has exactly same hardware as more expensive 830 - touch screen... So if you don't need touch screen it is great fully loaded entry level option

[@fehrcarlo2381]

The best for the buck I have found it to be, The Cateye Velo series for all the basics!

[@pockets.the.coyote]

Good info to have, considering the jump from my phone to a dedicated GPS. I gotta ask about that hat, somewhere I can find it or did you paint it yourself?

[@wiredblitzen]

Is there a bicycle computer that you can search for a business or address by name? Like the Karoo 2 does. I don't want to keep taking my phone out to look for a postcode

[@rolffuchs2737]

Wahoo was so much pushed, so i got a bolt2. The GPS Speed is always 2km/h to slow, that is very disappointing. I also got a Garmin Forerunner 45 and it's fantastic, i even use it on my bikes. I think i will get myself the Garmin "solar system".

[@rokibuca]

I had the Karoo nice display but the battery life is garbage no auto-dimming option and alerts are just too quiet i had Garmin Varia and barely heard the alert for incoming traffic

[@toshitominaga3911]

Have a Garmin Edge and Wahoo Element. Frankly, I like the Garmin but you can't see the thing when the sun is out. That's when most ride. I've boxed the nice Edge and gone back to the Wahoo. What's the point of riding with something you can barely see. ;-) Buying Roam next.

[@jamessalter5330]

I agree. The screen and colour definition on the V2 Roam and Bolt beat my 1030 plus, which sometimes I cant see because of the glare.

[@Casual_BackPacking]

I hope you become very successful in your KZbin career

[@EverythingsBeenDone]

Appreciate your vibe!

[@wilkin52]

Hey Dustin, tell me about your watch … the link doesn’t work in the uk. What model is that please. Great informative vid as always.

[@SebOevre]

Super late reply, but I only just now saw the video, it's a Garmin Instinct Solar, not sure if it's the original or the 2nd edition, I have the Instinct 2 Solar, fantastic watch

[@wilkin52]

@@SebOevre ha ha no worries and thank you for the info. Very much appreciated 🙏

[@scottcottontx]

Good video, but could you have Scoots McGoots do the next review? I miss that dude. Get rad!

[@tjbarke6086]

This is exactly something I've wanted to know recently.

[@RahLoh]

That longsleeve is Loud! 🦅

[@pault477]

Just moved to this area. What trail ya riding on Dustin?

[@bigmikeshooter]

Great as always. Bravo from Greece.

[@cocochanel9291]

Well now I need a Garmin ! (so easily influenced)

[@shawnsee2688]

Does the Garmin app record power output on rides?

[@EverythingsBeenDone]

Yes it does!

[@letsgoletsgoletsgoletsgoletsgo]

whaats that funky eyewear you rocking ? are those rx inserts ?

[@arcadialive4265]

Garmin is the best. I have a new Garmin Epix. It’s the best athletic smart watch I’ve ever used.

[@EverythingsBeenDone]

Their watches are so on point!

[@MokaBoucha]

Is that an adidas gravel shoes ur riding? How do you like it?

[@kt9493]

Garmin device software sucks big time. After a few updates it is bug ridden and has to be completely reset and configured again. I would only recommend Garmin devices that receive no further updates. And you can't disable virtual partner, which is a 2nd icon on the map easily confused with your own icon. It annoyed me every ride and led to missed turns. Sold my Edge 1040 Solar and got a Roam V2 for these reasons.

[@grantwelch9255]

DPS: Dustin Positioning System. Love it! Complete side note, you should partner with Chrome again to develop a gilet or vest! I'm still bummed I can't find your old handlebar bag in stock anywhere!

[@SamSeoMaC]

The KZbin Just unsubscribed me from the channel , I'm back , that's a beautiful place you cycle .

[@phillipcowan1444]

Ask Guitar Ted what he thinks of the hammerhead. Lol.

[@petredinga1649]

I use this everyday. I recommend you buying this.

[@hmcps89]

You missed out on the Bryton series.

[@chromebomb]

I have a Wahoo and I like it cuz it is simple. Hammerhead is too much like a mini android phone which is why I dont like it and Garmin I just find too complicated and expensive. Once i get rich i will buy a Garmin and learn how to use it.

[@nononsense2688]

This is the greatest comparison video ive ever seen lol

[@EverythingsBeenDone]

This makes my day!

[@jessetamez7362]

Don’t think the watch can track “all” your metrics.

[@JoakimGarde]

Zedyne?

[@alldaymagazine]

You think Garmin is great until you try the Hammerhead Karoo 2. 😉

[@EverythingsBeenDone]

The HammerHead Made me realize how great Garmin is!

[@alldaymagazine]

@@EverythingsBeenDone Until you have a warranty issue!

[@JonathanGiron-fv7lc]

Worst of all. Garmin 1040.

[@armandopdx]

37 resting heart rate???

[@Triaxtremec]

I really want to try the new explor but I'm a cheap ass so I'll keep using my phone ..... :(

[@tomaszkrakowiak5469]

All are crap, Why I need to plan routes outside! I dream about smartphone feeling GPS bike device with long battery life

[@wilsentwins]

Why domt use smartphone? Better gps, apps, etc?

[@markjohnson5502]

DAAAAMMMMNNN RHR super low

[@tevemullins8156]

🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟

[@EverythingsBeenDone]

My man!

[@prostadadaj]

I was expecting that you would say that phone is the best bike computer

[@JordanHMay]

Sponsored by Garmin.

[@shanen.6210]

Where's the bryton computers at? All the best computers? You only tested 3 brands

[@jakubbarcik]

Hey Dustin, I hate to say this, but this sucks! I miss old you, just riding bikes (hey, tell me about your bike), doing art stuff and making things. But this... If I want to know what's what I ask google or go to an actual shop to ask humans, not a youtube video. I am so sorry to be this guy, but every other video in my YT feed is what's better and get a discount all this sell sell sell bullshit.. Oh and I also miss Ron. You and Ron is the reason I was watching you... not what cycling computer I should buy. I hope I'll see more fun videos from you in the future. Cheers, Jakub