Dustopper vs Dust Deputy | Comparing the dust cyclone separators

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John Builds It

John Builds It

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@mrorangethecat4256
@mrorangethecat4256 5 жыл бұрын
I have a dust stopper and a dust deputy, and use them both almost daily, for interior remodeling. I definitely prefer the compactness of the dust stopper, but I think the dust deputy does a better job of filtering out the fine dust from drywall sanding or concrete grinding. I keep the dust stopper hooked to the table saw at all times, and use the dust deputy for everything else. Both are used with ridgid vacs running a pleated filter and a bag. Works great.... if that’s helpful for anyone.
@JohnBuildsIt
@JohnBuildsIt 5 жыл бұрын
MrOrange TheCat sounds about right!!
@Goodoleme4144
@Goodoleme4144 5 жыл бұрын
Mr Orange: Brilliant observation...and I am the inventor of Dustopper. If you place a vacuum bag inside the host vacuum, you get all the low profile benefits of Dustopper (fast and easy to set up on a job site, not a tippy, etc.) and nearly all the ultra-fine particles will be captured before lodging in the vac's pleated filter. Technically speaking, the "cut point" of the Dust Deputy is a tiny bit better than Dustopper (that comment from the inventor should start a firestorm of commentary, BTW) and in most applications they perform about the same. One thing that cannot be argued is the simplicity of setup. Dustopper goes together in a snap, and usually can be put into operations faster than any other separator out there.
@Name-js5uq
@Name-js5uq 5 жыл бұрын
@@Goodoleme4144 thank you very very much for inventing the duststopper, I plan on buying one immediately after I saw it being reviewed on on ...... Hang on I'll have to go check the channel..... OK the channel was "field treasure designs"....I just want to say thank you that thing works amazing and thank you for including all the stuff you need to make it work I'm definitely going to buy yours over the cyclone!!!and I'm going to tell all my friends to watch the video so they can see yours is better and cheaper and also comes with all the parts!!!
@Name-js5uq
@Name-js5uq 5 жыл бұрын
@@Goodoleme4144 i did exactly that right after I bought another one of your awesome dustoppers
@TubeHammel
@TubeHammel 5 жыл бұрын
@@Goodoleme4144 I wish I had seen this earlier. I still have not unpacked my Dust Deputy but I cannot return it. Maybe I should do like Mr.Orange and use both.
@bloodgain
@bloodgain 4 жыл бұрын
Can we just take a moment to appreciate how well the DIY manometer results aligned with the dial gauge manometer? The nerd in me loved that.
@JohnBuildsIt
@JohnBuildsIt 4 жыл бұрын
Haha same!
@mikeroth5536
@mikeroth5536 4 ай бұрын
I concur. I appreciate this test. thanx dude
@Name-js5uq
@Name-js5uq 5 жыл бұрын
I just want to make sure you knew that I did buy the dust stopper today and I did also buy a brand new Ridgid 12 gallon 5 horsepower vacuum to use with it,...all thanks to you!😁 Btw it works so awesome I can't believe how good it works! It captured every bit of sawdust. I am extremely happy with this product.
@kumagkumag5719
@kumagkumag5719 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, i wish all youtube videos are this simple and direct. Well done! Thank you. Looking to get the home depot version after watching this video.
@TwoCaptainsOneShip
@TwoCaptainsOneShip 3 жыл бұрын
Good Stuff, just bought a dust stopper tonight and it works just fine for me and my needs...
@jackdotzman2908
@jackdotzman2908 4 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate the time you took to compare these two dust separators, an excellent test too. Based on your test I ordered the Home Depot’s model. The separation was very good for both of them, I chose the Home Depot model because it shorter in height. I’m going to stack the vac and separator on a cart it won’t be as tall with this model. Again, thank you for taking the time to put your vid together it was well done and very informative. From Missouri
@takeniteasyfriend
@takeniteasyfriend 5 жыл бұрын
Sold. Appreciate you taking the time to do these measurements. Will be saving some money with the Home Depot version
@mikeguitarification
@mikeguitarification 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the work on this. Good job and I like that you didn't declare any "winner" but simply gave results of your tests for us to make a decision on our own.
@JohnBuildsIt
@JohnBuildsIt 5 жыл бұрын
mikeguitarification that’s exactly what I wanted to do! Thanks for watching!
@FrederickDunn
@FrederickDunn 4 жыл бұрын
This is an EXCELLENT review!! Thank you so much! Sold!
@JohnBuildsIt
@JohnBuildsIt 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@arthurgriffin1210
@arthurgriffin1210 4 жыл бұрын
Great job ! I think I speak for many saying we look forward to your future reviews and projects -well done ! Arthur
@zhodge0
@zhodge0 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for providing some quality tests. it has helped me make a decision to buy a dustopper.
@pastormaldonator9687
@pastormaldonator9687 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks for taking the time to perform the test... I notice that in the first run of the efficiency test, a good part of the fine dust that goes through the device was already out of the load used for the second run with the Dustopper... so that was no fare for the Dust deputy.
@JohnBuildsIt
@JohnBuildsIt 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely! If I used 2 different piles, people would complain about that too haha just a kid messing around in my shop not a scientist. Thanks for watching though!
@darylg.4270
@darylg.4270 3 жыл бұрын
I purchased the duststopper and it works amazing. I decided to look it up for a better seal and discovered this video. Great review btw!
@bobvanwest
@bobvanwest 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video. I like the dust stopper because of the compatibility.
@sicstringerman
@sicstringerman 5 жыл бұрын
John that was a great test/comparison. I really appreciate it. Keep up the good work!
@JJGiammanco
@JJGiammanco 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the unbiased thoroughness of this review, you touched upon every data point I was looking for. I was leaning towards the Dust Deputy, but recognizing there was barely a noticeable difference between the devices, I'm going with the Duststopper due to it's out-of-the-box ease of use. You provided a great approach, the video was straight and to the point, providing enough information for your viewers to come to a conclusion based upon data. I imagine the rest of your videos will be similar, subscribing to your channel.
@JohnBuildsIt
@JohnBuildsIt 5 жыл бұрын
Anonymous thanks a lot! I really appreciate all that!
@lrc87290
@lrc87290 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. already ordered mine and am going to make a cart like yours. It is the most practical way to set up a dust separator.
@liambauer8470
@liambauer8470 6 жыл бұрын
Best comp ever on KZbin ! I ran similar tests on a DD, Suning and the Dustopper. No real difference except for price. Vac used was a newer 6.5 HP HD . The one with the handle. With a Suning SN 50 -3 . no filter it flowed 140 CFM. With a new Clean Stream Filter and cyclone it dropped to 116 CFM . The Clean Stream filter as an area of 8 Square feet, The Stock filter has only about 5 square feet, It pays to up grade. The CFM numbers were obtained using Ansi/AMCA testing methods not an anemometer. These are worthless for testing on a duct work. The vac pulls up to 14 amps with no filter , hose or filter and drops to 12 amp loaded. The best on the market for a shop vac. I use this in my garage. Using the same dust over doesn't change the results much I found. There is such a small about of super fine dust in common saw dust that it doesn't effect the results . Some use dry plaster but I'm afraid to use that material. It can set up and ruin an expensive filter. Clean Stream recommends cleaning their filter with tap water. If that hit residual plaster dust? For our use getting close is good enough. As a comp, the industrial vac motor I use on my central vac is an Ametek Lamb vac motor model 122165-00 , 220 v./ 7.5 A, Single stage . $133 from Kleen Rite. You can get a 120 V model if you do not have 220v . Max SP is 110" vs 45 "for the Ridgid 6.5 Hp and CFM ranges up to 166 CFM. Loaded with 15-20 feet of 2" duct, two cyclones , filter and a 20' 2 hose " the CFM drops to about the same as the Ridgid 6.5, @116 CFM . However the Ridgid CFM falls to less then 35 CFM attached to the built in plumbing. You can build your own shop vac with this industrial motor and some creativity . As good as it is the Ridgid is not suitable for a built in system with long runs. Granger has certified AMCA fan curves on the Lamb motors. John, I like your cart so much I'm redoing my cart. Your a very clever guy. Do you have a big cyclone system?
@andriosz
@andriosz 5 жыл бұрын
Great comment, I'm gonna use your advice :)
@vegandew
@vegandew 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent application of the scientific method. Thanks for sharing your findings.
@DonsWoodies
@DonsWoodies 4 жыл бұрын
I've had the Dust Deputy for longer than the Dustopper has been around. If it ever breaks, I'll for sure be getting the Dustopper as a replacement. Great test, thanks for putting this together.
@emmgeevideo
@emmgeevideo 3 жыл бұрын
An intelligent, thorough, and useful video. Thank you very much.
@roeyleon22
@roeyleon22 7 ай бұрын
Perfect explanation and comparison, Thank you!
@1averageamerican
@1averageamerican 5 жыл бұрын
I'm building a larger 2 stage system for my shop but even so this had a bunch of useful info. Thanks for sharing.
@JohnBuildsIt
@JohnBuildsIt 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thanks for watching! Hoping to finally get an actual DC system this year as well
@M_M0109
@M_M0109 3 жыл бұрын
Very thorough comparison. I'm going to go ahead and give you a thumbs up.
@JohnBuildsIt
@JohnBuildsIt 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@duckie62
@duckie62 5 жыл бұрын
John thank you for your review. It was very helpful in my decision to purchase a Dust Deputy
@patty109109
@patty109109 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent vid. Agree both same in your test. This I’m getting the stopper because its profile is so much less and easier to deal with.
@kristinaanderson8644
@kristinaanderson8644 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a very informative video. Love the scientific approach! Now im off to buy the dust stopper!
@BobHerres
@BobHerres 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent Review, Very Well Done in all areas! I have a Dust Deputy now, but the Dustopper has a much lower profile that would be preferable . Thank you for sharing this!
@brianw.1695
@brianw.1695 4 жыл бұрын
Great side by side. Thank you for sharing
@commoncents456
@commoncents456 5 жыл бұрын
You did a Fantastic job. Using the meters were a nice touch. I think the dd is a little more money when you include the lid, bolts, gasket, and labor. Thank you for the wonderful video
@JohnBuildsIt
@JohnBuildsIt 5 жыл бұрын
Ernest Vocell thanks for watching!!
@johnmay3266
@johnmay3266 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the test. Stopper it is.
@terryk3118
@terryk3118 5 жыл бұрын
Nice video. I appreciated your scientific approach to comparing the two products.
@FlyFishermanSuper
@FlyFishermanSuper 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent comparison and presentation.
@JohnBuildsIt
@JohnBuildsIt 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@kevinxxx8093
@kevinxxx8093 3 жыл бұрын
Very nicely done. Thank you.
@mmgross144
@mmgross144 6 жыл бұрын
I have the Dust Deputy and have used it for years and love it. This is the first time that I have seen the Dust Stopper, and so far I wouldn't have any problem with recommending it. The only category that it may lag behind the Dust Deputy in would be total capacity, as the DD can (and mine has) continued to work once the can is filled.
@packer34
@packer34 5 жыл бұрын
Great video!! I have the deputy and it works great. Home Depots wasn't out at the time, but if I had to buy again it would be home depot's cause of the top being so compact.
@jmaniak1
@jmaniak1 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this comparison. I’ve been trying to decide between the two. My shop is small so space saving equipment is a consideration. The Dustopper is smaller and less expensive so my choice is made.
@hleigh842
@hleigh842 5 жыл бұрын
Very nicely done. Completely fair and equitable test of both systems. There is no clear winner and any one significant standout feature. Both systems work well and will do the job much better than not using one. My conclusion is that selecting one or the other is simply a personal choice for the individual.....for whatever reason you make the choice. Thanks
@JohnBuildsIt
@JohnBuildsIt 5 жыл бұрын
Howard Birch my conclusion exactly too! I’ve simply decided to add more dustoppers to my shop due to price and the low profile design
@rjtumble
@rjtumble 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thanks. I bought the dust stopper to build the cart in another one of your videos and it's worked out awesome for me in my shop. I use it for any kind of mobile dust collection where I don't wanter bother running a 4" line from the big dust collector.
@shepsb
@shepsb 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for putting this together.
@madcheme
@madcheme 5 жыл бұрын
This is a very good video. One thing missing in the video is how they may perform differently when the collection buckets are 1/2 to 3/4 full. I would expect the Dust Deputy's performance would not change much because the cyclonic funnel and the bucket are in different compartments. On the other hand, I would expect the Duststopper's performance may be negatively impacted as the collection bin got full and the cyclone effect is impeded. As it got fuller, more dust would escape the cyclone and reach the vacuum cartridge and bin.
@JohnBuildsIt
@JohnBuildsIt 5 жыл бұрын
madcheme that would be a good comparison for sure! But as I use the dustopper in my shop every day(and fill it up) I haven’t noticed a difference aka still no dust in my vacuum. Thanks for watching!!
@oldarkie3880
@oldarkie3880 5 жыл бұрын
The dust stopper cyclonic action is still in the top not the bucket.
@vincentrobinette1507
@vincentrobinette1507 4 жыл бұрын
In this demonstration, he filled the bucket up more than 3/4 full, and there was very little in the 'shop vac' bucket. The cyclonic separation happens in the volute, rather than relying on the bucket, like a 'shop vac' does.
@Smedleydog1
@Smedleydog1 6 жыл бұрын
I saw your other video where you stacked the DustStopper on top of your vacuum. That got me leaning towards the DustStopper. This video just sealed the deal. I was figuring I would have to make a cart for the vacuum and dust collector to sit side by side. With your stacking method, you get to keep precious floor space.
@ryanmoore9160
@ryanmoore9160 4 жыл бұрын
Nice review, great comparison techniques. I’ve been wondering which one to get. Thanks to you I’ve decided on the dust topper. Cheers!
@JohnBuildsIt
@JohnBuildsIt 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@Therealphantomzero
@Therealphantomzero 6 жыл бұрын
Great video, I bought the dust stopper and it's great.
@davethepak
@davethepak 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review! Very well done.
@georgekaiser
@georgekaiser 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome, helpful video - I hadn't heard of the Dustopper, but it certainly looks like an easier, just as effective setup
@grampa_ahah
@grampa_ahah 5 жыл бұрын
You've run some great tests to educate us. Good job.
@andygrew4832
@andygrew4832 5 жыл бұрын
Great review, very thorough. Thank you.
@JohnBuildsIt
@JohnBuildsIt 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@MRGF78
@MRGF78 3 жыл бұрын
It really was a good thorough review... good job...
@MnktoDave
@MnktoDave 6 жыл бұрын
That was a great comparison, thank you. I've been trying to decide which one of these to get, and this helped me make the decision. I really like the low profile design of the Dustopper, which will allow me to put it in a smaller cabinet along with the vac. Since they both seem to work very well, I'm sure you couldn't go wrong with either unit...but for me and my purposes, the space saving low profile design of the Dustopper really seals the deal. Thanks.
@JohnBuildsIt
@JohnBuildsIt 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly!! The performance is so similar, the design and price of the Dustopper make it a clear choice
@aisotton
@aisotton 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome tests, this has helped me a lot! Thank you very much!
@JohnBuildsIt
@JohnBuildsIt 6 жыл бұрын
Aaron Isotton glad to hear, thank you!!
@drewjohnson4673
@drewjohnson4673 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic!! Very scientific. Very professional. Very informative. Maybe the highest rated “how to” video I have ever seen!!! May I suggest,,,have run instead of have ran?
@stormbytes
@stormbytes 5 жыл бұрын
Really terrific comparison!
@JohnBuildsIt
@JohnBuildsIt 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! 👍🏽
@kbob8424
@kbob8424 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time. For me the deciding factor is that the Dustopper sits lower on the bucket and just looks better. I think it would handle a tip over easier than the Dust Deputy sticking up so far out. Easy to break the seal or mount should it fall over.
@JohnBuildsIt
@JohnBuildsIt 6 жыл бұрын
k bob definitely!! The Dustopper is such a better design in my opinion
@debbiecote3993
@debbiecote3993 4 жыл бұрын
Great test! Nicely done. Thanks, Frank
@JohnBuildsIt
@JohnBuildsIt 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@mykolashatkovskyi8817
@mykolashatkovskyi8817 4 жыл бұрын
Thanx, John. You've helped me a lot.
@tbone357
@tbone357 4 жыл бұрын
Super informative video as I'm buying one of the two this week! Thanks!!
@WaltWW
@WaltWW 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks, great information, I have been using a DD but prefer the low profile of the dust stopper.
@JohnBuildsIt
@JohnBuildsIt 6 жыл бұрын
WaltWW me too!! Thanks for watching!
@mjf1036
@mjf1036 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the demonstration and review. I am going to buy the DD as it seems to perform slightly better and will work on a larger waste bin. I don’t want to be limited to a standard 5 gallon bucket and with the Dustopper the capacity is reduced due to location of the baffle inside the waste bucket.
@andrewostrom8676
@andrewostrom8676 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. I have the DD mounted to a 20 gallon "Eagle" plastic tub with a clamp type retainer that I bought on Amazon. Works great with my shopvac; my only complaint is that if I use it with a 4" to 2.5" reducer from my dust collector the suction isn't very good. I'm going to add a Dust Deputy XL to my dust collector, so that will solve that.
@bradjcarlson
@bradjcarlson 4 жыл бұрын
John, great job, informative, just ordered the Duststopper to pick up at HD today. Keep up the good work, God gave you a gift in being a good communicator. All the best. Brad
@JohnBuildsIt
@JohnBuildsIt 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that, thank you!!
@corpsiecorpsie_the_original
@corpsiecorpsie_the_original 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. I'll be passing on getting a different system and stick with what I have since they're similar enough for my needs
@riedjacobsen8620
@riedjacobsen8620 4 жыл бұрын
Good test and information! Thanks for running it.
@JohnBuildsIt
@JohnBuildsIt 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@rakeyohn222
@rakeyohn222 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Very helpful.
@richardc8340
@richardc8340 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the great video, this is exactly the info I needed!
@JohnBuildsIt
@JohnBuildsIt 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@frankgarcia9350
@frankgarcia9350 6 жыл бұрын
Very helpful. Thank you again
@the250mikec
@the250mikec 4 жыл бұрын
Good job. Very thorough👍
@guentherclinton
@guentherclinton 4 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate the effort, so thumbs up. Regarding dust let-through, however, I would have liked to see a bit more control by precisely measuring the weight of the pile of dust (should be the same for both tests) before each test commenced. Thanks.
@mikeroth5536
@mikeroth5536 4 ай бұрын
Agreed. That would hold more water in this case, er dust. albeit it's likely to be measured in grams I'd expect. at least for the size container.
@brantleyrich
@brantleyrich 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a very good scientific review!
@dougbrown9861
@dougbrown9861 3 жыл бұрын
I have the Dustopper and have been considering buying the Dust Deputy. I think I might just hang on to the Dustopper for a while longer. Thanks for the review.
@airgliderz
@airgliderz 3 жыл бұрын
For my dust stopper I stacked two Home buckets on top of each other, now 10 gallon capacity bin. I put the lid on the bottom bucket, put the other bucket on top, drew a line around the bottom of the top bucket onto the lid on the bottom bucket. Cut out the lid, slid the top bucket into the bottom, siliconed and bolted all together. I also modified the dust stopper, glued in a plumbing coupler that goes from 2" to 4" the idea to reduce the air velocity leaving the bucket to reduce dust entering the vacuum (center of dust remover). The 2nd upp bucket also acts like a centrifugal collector. Added a wood barrier with a scoop on the bottom of the top bucket that catches dust to bottom bucket and idea to reduce airflow a dust kicked up out of the the bottom bucket...In practice that last item made little difference, have filled up to half the top bucket with dust, with no issues.
@CuriousKL
@CuriousKL 3 жыл бұрын
I have the Duststopper. My reason for having it was to get around having to clean and/or replace the filter cartridge which is pricey. To me I never expected or need to create a clean room. I mostly attach a vacuum to a table saw, mitre saw, or circular saw to capture the dust as to reduce clean up. Then all I need to do is empty the 5 gallon bucket. I supposed if your shop is used wood finish projects then keeping the dust to the bare minimum is essential.
@1967onebob
@1967onebob 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Thanks for doing the tests and sharing.
@MrRutabager
@MrRutabager 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks John. In your opinion was the dust stopper louder than the dust deputy...It seemed to be watching the video but I wanted your opinion being right next to both. Thanks
@Name-js5uq
@Name-js5uq 5 жыл бұрын
Wow man thank you so much that was awesome, now I'm going to go buy the dust stopper
@JohnBuildsIt
@JohnBuildsIt 5 жыл бұрын
You’ll love it! 👍🏽
@Name-js5uq
@Name-js5uq 5 жыл бұрын
@@JohnBuildsIt I just checked with my local home Depot and I use the app to make sure it was in stock and it is so I'm going to go there first thing in the morning when it opens up at 7 a.m. so thank you very much, you have literally changed my life because you're going to save me money....okay it's now the next day and I did buy one and I hooked it up to a brand new Ridgid vacuum and it works awesome, thanks so much for all your help. also this is an update edit I just bought another dust stopper yesterday January 3rd 2020 because they work so awesome.
@JonathanStrong
@JonathanStrong 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks John. I purchased the $99 Dust Deputy kit a little over a year ago, built a small wooden cart and bolted the DD buckets and a small shop vac to it. It works very well -- but it's tall and awkward, and the cart can't roll under my workbench in my small shop. The Dustopper has a much more friendly size / profile, and would make a more compact overall unit, as well as being cheaper and working almost exactly as well as the DD. Wish I had seen your video earlier!
@JohnBuildsIt
@JohnBuildsIt 5 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Strong ah bummer! There are definitely more pros with the dustopper. Thanks for watching!
@JonathanStrong
@JonathanStrong 5 жыл бұрын
@@JohnBuildsIt Hey - this might be an excuse for me to move my Dust Deputy setup to the garage, and build a new one with the Dustopper for the indoor shop... :)
@JohnBuildsIt
@JohnBuildsIt 5 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Strong haha there ya go!
@robertbrunston5406
@robertbrunston5406 6 жыл бұрын
Great job! Very professional, thank you.
@JohnBuildsIt
@JohnBuildsIt 6 жыл бұрын
Robert Brunston thanks a lot!!
@michaelcummings2590
@michaelcummings2590 4 жыл бұрын
Very nicely done. I'd like to have seen a decibel test as well. It sounded like the DD was significantly less loud but that could be due to where the ports are located in relation to the microphone.
@JohnBuildsIt
@JohnBuildsIt 4 жыл бұрын
Yea it’s mainly my poor video skills haha but I have tested them and the dustopper bounces between 1-2 decibels louder
@michaelcummings2590
@michaelcummings2590 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the quick reply. 1 to 2 db would be imperceptible to most so everything else being pretty much equal, I'd go with the Dustopper. Thanks for the review.
@b-radg916
@b-radg916 Жыл бұрын
@@JohnBuildsIt: Just 1-2 dB? It sounds a LOT louder in the video, enough so that I thought it might be a reason to not buy. Might be worth pinning Michael’s comment so others don’t think it’s a dealbreaker.
@francescoc.6591
@francescoc.6591 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent work sir.... Thank you...
@alecweber8893
@alecweber8893 6 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison! Looks like i'll be going with the Dustopper!
@braulioperez181
@braulioperez181 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much. A fantastic video and very useful.
@milesgentry2561
@milesgentry2561 4 жыл бұрын
I have been very happy with the Dust Right Seperator from Rockler. The canister has a much larger capacity and it has 5 small casters so it rolls easily. I use it daily, even to vacuum the shop floor, and it just rolls as I pull and the shop vac follows behind it. Highly recommend it.
@JohnBuildsIt
@JohnBuildsIt 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen those, looks pretty nice! 👍🏽
@07roadking43
@07roadking43 3 жыл бұрын
Ive got the dust stopper on mine but i also put a pool skum sock on my filter that catches all that fine dust there cheap and it saves my filter indefinitely for use
@davidmucci6049
@davidmucci6049 6 жыл бұрын
Great comparison of the two units. You did tests that were measurable and you didn't show any bias towards either one. My only suggestion would be that using two virgin filters would have been a little more scientific but you never claimed that it was anything more than a comparison. I own a Dust Deputy and there are a few flaws in the design that the Duststopper doesn't have: 1- A top heavy profile. 2- The top mounted hose which causes air flow restriction when the hose bends and, as another comment mentioned, adds height. 3- Adding on to #2, the top mounted hose puts strain on the unit and the seal on the bucket when it gets pulled on. The beauty of a shop vac is that you can take it to the job, whether it's the table saw, the trunk of the car or the sheetrock work in the bathroom. I have been known to trip over a hose now and then in those situations and not having to wonder if I broke the cyclone can get me back to work, after I pick my clumsy butt off the floor, that much sooner! Thanks again.
@JohnBuildsIt
@JohnBuildsIt 6 жыл бұрын
David Mucci thank you, and great info!!
@jorgeherrera3554
@jorgeherrera3554 6 жыл бұрын
Now everyone draws conclusions about your comparison and adjusts according to their experience. Excellent job. Thank you!
@tseckwr3783
@tseckwr3783 6 жыл бұрын
Concur with the positive comments about your presentation. I have a metal version of the DD but opted to spend a wad of cash on the Mini CV06. Both of these units are great to use with a power tool such as a sander but for general cleaning (and higher volume sawdust pile removal), will likely pick up a Dust Stopper from HD on my next trip. Any reduction of material into the "shop" vacuum chamber is a plus.
@jd3497
@jd3497 6 жыл бұрын
Dust Deputy made in the USA, Dust Stopper made in China. Thanks but I'll take the USA made product for a few dollars more.
@PennsyltuckyPhil
@PennsyltuckyPhil 6 жыл бұрын
@JD Hartman What you said and also the ability to be fit to larger drums 55 gallon and a smaller 22 gallon drums is what sold me on the Dust Deputy. Just wish their metal industrial model was less expensive, will have to wait and see what the longevity is of the plastic model.
@jameswarrenfamily
@jameswarrenfamily 3 жыл бұрын
Nice White Tail Buck rack on the wall! And a great review.
@JohnBuildsIt
@JohnBuildsIt 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! 👊🏼
@BrilliantDesignOnline
@BrilliantDesignOnline 3 жыл бұрын
Well done testing. I have a chinese dust deputy ($15?), but have not used it. I will be NOW :-) I had to cut a plywood ring for inside the (stock) bucket lid to make it rigid enough; I will need to build a stand because two separate units is a pain, with the vac below and the DD above. Thank you.
@noclu9683
@noclu9683 6 жыл бұрын
That was fantastic! Thank you!
@PhilAndersonShadyAcresWoodshop
@PhilAndersonShadyAcresWoodshop 6 жыл бұрын
Hey, John, Great Job! I didn't even know about the Dustopper and now, thanks to your comparison, I know which I want. Keep making vids and we'll keep watching! Phil
@JohnBuildsIt
@JohnBuildsIt 6 жыл бұрын
madronawoodworks thank you! I really appreciate that!!!
@Beatlehead1974
@Beatlehead1974 4 жыл бұрын
very good technical analysis, one thing I missed is what happens if you block the intake. I saw several implosions with the standard bucket. For that reason I used a plastic 60 liter barrel with a metal ring lock. It would still bend inwards (so I have to raise the hose from the ground to break the vacuum) but not break. You can set up a DD but not a Duststopper on that barrel.
@b-radg916
@b-radg916 Жыл бұрын
I’ve seen someone put the bucket inside another bucket. I think as the inner one tries to suck in on one side, it needs expand out on another side, and the second bucket prevents that.
@camgreer
@camgreer 4 жыл бұрын
Great test, very thorough. You confirmed what I was thinking about these two. For me, it comes down to the 'form factor'. I'm just not a fan of that Dust Deputy tall tower configuration. It looks like it'd be tippy and awkward moving it on the job and storing it in the truck. The Duststopper is low and compact and easy to stow away. With near equal performance, the Duststopper looks like a winner to me, and it's a few bucks cheaper. For a permanent shop setup, the Deputy might rule the OK Corral, but for me it'll be the Duststopper. Thanks for putting in the work to put this question to rest.
@JohnBuildsIt
@JohnBuildsIt 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! 👍🏽
@scottcasey7108
@scottcasey7108 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent reviews! Based on the test results, specifications, sizes, configuration and prices the Dustopper is a clear winner. I could never fit anything as TALL as the Deputy in my shop. The low profile and super performance of the Dustopper combined with a Ridgid 4/5 gallon vac is perfect!
@govindrpillai
@govindrpillai 6 жыл бұрын
Great technical review, thanks.
@JohnBuildsIt
@JohnBuildsIt 6 жыл бұрын
Govind Pillai thank you!
@govindrpillai
@govindrpillai 6 жыл бұрын
@@Goodoleme4144 Thanks for the info and giveaway you did with John. I'm looking forward to using it as I have a medium to close to severe dust allergy.
@albertotenorio6754
@albertotenorio6754 5 жыл бұрын
Great video John 👍👍 Subscribed
@shalimarrivera1380
@shalimarrivera1380 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this review!! My dust/debris collection can now be one step closer to where I want it for my garage/shop work. Simple, to the point, not a lot of intro which is a huge plus for viewing during quick breaks. Your shop is AWESOME by the way!! I was wondering if you have any experience/suggestions on how to improve a contractor table saw's dust collection? I've seen some where they've removed the motor which seems difficult and out of my beginner's experience level.
@JohnBuildsIt
@JohnBuildsIt 6 жыл бұрын
Shalimar Rivera thank you so much! I really appreciate the feedback! I know table saw dust collection is a huge topic, and there are dozens of good videos here on KZbin. I have fairly good collection on my saw, so I don’t have much experience to help. One thing you could do is google dust collection for your exact model of saw. That way you could see if there’s anyone that has a solution that you know will work easily for your saw.
@curtismakes
@curtismakes 4 жыл бұрын
This is brilliant.
@gregj2647
@gregj2647 2 жыл бұрын
The dust pile used for the dust stopper really wasn’t the same as the dust deputy because some of the fine dust was removed by the dust deputy. It probably doesn’t matter and in either case, I’d go with the dust stopper just based on cost.
@steffen707-
@steffen707- 3 жыл бұрын
During the manometer test the dust stopper sounded way way way louder. Did you notice this too?
@terryherrera5252
@terryherrera5252 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks John !!
@moonolyth
@moonolyth 5 ай бұрын
Great job man!!!!! Generally, the topper is better in that it's compact and cheaper, in the end, the dust is collected and not in your lungs. If I were making mineral dust then perhaps the cone shape one would be worth the cumbersome price.
@mecabrico
@mecabrico 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this interesting test. It's a good idea to weigh the filter. Perhaps it would have been interesting to do the same test with different kinds of dust: plaster and concrete (which clog a filter in a few minutes usually) or metal filings and shavings, or animal hair...
@luishernandez-pf3pj
@luishernandez-pf3pj 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@deckerdoesitdiy
@deckerdoesitdiy 4 жыл бұрын
I have used the dust stopper for a year now and all I have had to do is clean the filter out. Not wood shavings yet. It works great
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