SLIP TEST vs SNOW & ICE - Toyota Yaris Cross Hybrid AWD-i -

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[@MrTekbow]

The video from the snow has been dishonestly edited. I saw the original vid a few days ago. He made it up just fine when he switched to the appropriate mode.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@MrTekbow It doesn't matter if he did it or not. The point is to show situations where system fails. And by the way - he didn't make it just fine. He had to use a trick which is used for FWD cars, that is driving uphill on reverse gear.

[@MrTekbow]

​@@4x4.tests.on.rollers and did the situation fail? The first hill start you showed was when they were using trail and not snow mode. As soon as they went into snow mode, and kept the speed down, I.e. didn't just floor the gas, they moved off just fine. It also took off fine in normal mode. So the situation your demonstrating it failing in is when you use a mode that isn't supposed to be used in the snow, except you don't state that or show when it took off using the correct mode. That corner is featured in their vids a lot, and they made it up first go with momentum behind them. Face it, you've selectively edited the vid to make the AWD capabilities seem much worse than they are, and this car isn't even supposed to be a dedicated off roader, it certainly not marketed as such. It's AWD capability is meant to provide extra traction in heavier weather conditions ON road, which, on the basis of the original vid in its full form, it does very well. I wonder have the original vids creators seen your vid?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@MrTekbow It doesn't matter what mode is chosen - there's a 5 hp electric motor at the rear which is not able to push the car by itself, not able to spin the wheels in certain situations which you see in the video. In the first situation, Rasto started in normal mode and after some wheelspin of front he made it. Then he reversed onto the same place but there was more ice now under front wheels - he tried in Trail mode and failed, car rolled back with only front wheels spinning forward. There's no excuse for such a behaviour of the system, both axles should be spinning, even if he couldn't move forward. Snow mode doesn't change a thing in operation of awd system, it only tempers the acceleration pedal. And one more time - it doesn't matter if he made it or not. What matters is that the system doesn't spin rear wheels and that's shown in other situations. I didn't edit the video - I only selected a few real situations from the video showing the weakness of the system. Watch some other example - Lexus UX 250h which uses the same system - and you will see exactly the same problems, rear doing effectively nothing: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rZ7Yc3V3mrVlfZosi=c4vDW__W8U7oyFOk And when it comes to capabilities - why does it have TRAIL mode? To use it ON-ROAD? Furthermore - if you compare awd systems of hybrid Yaris Cross and non-hybrid Yaris Cross, you will see that the second one is way more capable due to different awd system and different modes, actually very good for light off road use. Face it: AWD-i of Yaris Cross is a helper, not a real awd system (some automotive journalists call it mild awd which I find accurate). Driving uphill on a reverse to make it work is not a solution.

[@MrTekbow]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers what matters Is real world application and capability. You claim your roller test is as valid as a real world test, but the real world test clearly shows it has the capability to do what you claim it can't, and because of that, you edited out the bits of the original that show this. That and you're also trying to say it should be capable of doing things it's not designed to do. AWD isn't meant to be an alternate to full mechanical 4WD., and toyota doesn't market it this way. Let's face it, the Vitara AllGrip is a mechanical 4WD system but with smart digital management. You can't say a fork is supposed to be a knife and then criticise the fork when it doesn't do the job of a knife. That the Cross AWD manages to do what it does in those conditions is impressive given that it wasn't even designed to do those things. It performs much better than a 2WD apart from a short section where he employed the reversing trick. You're presenting it as if it's no more capable than a 2WD in those conditions which, from the original video, Clearly isn't the case. You've been dishonest, there's not really anything to argue.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@MrTekbow I claim that rear axle of AWD-i system of Yaris Cross is not able to push the car by itself. Roller test shows it, real world tests show it. I never claimed it's no more capable then 2WD, that's your false statement about my opinion so it's not me being dishonest but you. I clearly said the system is a helper, mild awd. Be objective and go to Japanese tests comparing awd systems of hybrid and non-hybrids versions of Yaris Cross (which basically has the same awd system as mentioned Vitara and it performs similarly to Vitara), you will see the difference between AWD-i and ATS. Right in front of your eyes you can see the situations in which AWD-i spins only front wheels while rear is doing nothing. If you claim there are no such situations then again - who is dishonest?

[@TVCHLORD]

fake awd should be illegal

[@scott8919]

It's not fake if there is power going to all wheels. It just doesn't put enough to be truly capable.

[@samuelgitari529]

​@@scott8919it's fake!!! Thats not AWD!!! They're ripping people off!!

[@hermanjohnson9180]

​@@scott8919 You're technically correct which is why I don't think there's been a lawsuit yet but it does come awfully close to just being a lie when it comes to practical use of the all-wheel drive system.

[@Kacpa2]

@@scott8919 It is effectively fake, as it doesnt give you any of the actual benefits like a real AWD system like Subaru's symmetrical awd or Audi's quattro do, even on dry conditions. Toyota it capable of making this work properly as show by GR-Four yaris, they just stupidly choose not to, rendering it useless and a marketting gimmick in case of those puny crossovers of theirs.

[@Kacpa2]

@@scott8919 All it would take is either programming their traction control better or using limited slip differentials or real viscous coupling like Subaru did in manual cars and toyota in the GT-Four cars in the past if they are too lazy to make it work properly with their cheapskate tactics.

[@michelebicc6983]

It shows how completely useless this system is. Thanks for your job.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Thanks. I wouldn't call it "completely useless", although in some situations it really is. I would call it "limited", imho it should be officially called "mild awd".

[@jasonstathoom5142]

Provides better recuperation though

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@jasonstathoom5142 Why?

[@hechis]

​@@jasonstathoom5142 sadly no

[@andi-ih3jj]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers it could because the rear drive motor can also work as generator. now to the video: I am still baffled at how bad this performs, I thought it’s the same system as in my RAV4 but this is just hilariously bad compared. Yesterday after three days of rain I took on a quite steep incline which is basically mud and grass with light tracks in it. I was quite certain I wouldn’t make it and would be forced to roll backwards half way up. Well I did stop halfway up because the RAV4 cut off power to an extent that it wouldn’t move on with more than like 2 to 3 km an hour and showed me messages of failing cruise control, VSC, TRAC or Uphill Help, sonar system and pre-collision system. to be honest by this time I also had dirt up on the front hood, windshield, side windows and roof 😊 good thing about this was when I tried to push on I had all of the engine power back and did make it up the incline. On top I wasn’t quite sure how to get down so I just continued on without knowing where I end up and about 50 to 100 m on the systems came back. Except I had no side view cameras because they were covered in dirt also 😂 thinking back about it it was quite a dumb idea pushing the car so hard but I’m quite happy I did it because it showed me the RAV4 can go over it limits and still get you out of such a bad situation. but I also know now that I need better tires with more grip

[@joergarms1]

Hilarious 😂😂. You can't call that AWD. So happy to have a Vitara Allgrip.

[@MartinXCV]

The worst 4x4 car in the history 🤮🤮🤮

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Here's more: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mGbIqqN-Z9Jjh6M

[@mirokezic4712]

these teste r great (rollers and real world). can u do the same with vitara allgrip? i know there are plenty of vitaras on rollers, but it will be great to have the same kind of tests in one video. well done

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Thanks. We will try to make similar video with Vitara but it will be more difficult to find appropriate situations.

[@vercingetorige400]

as you can see rollers perfectly represent the capabilities of the cars, so can rest assured by the vitara

[@mirokezic4712]

Thats for sure, but maybe it is a little bit more pro if is also presented in real world.

[@MrLVZA]

The current Vitara is an old-fashioned car (2015) with a facelift, but in terms of awd, it is one of the best, it has nothing to do with this fake awd. I have a Vitara AllGrip in the family, of course traction also depends on the tire but where a Vitara doesn't pass, it's better not to try with another traditional car/suv.

[@uzurbator9211]

Who among the buyers of this crap would want to sue Toyota?

[@ReneDefontecombe]

Bonjour, j’ai un yaris cross awd. Ce n’est certainement pas le meilleur 4 roue motrices du marché c’est indéniable, en revanche dans beaucoup de situation ce système m’a bien aidé et même sur la neige il se révèle efficace. Pour le commun des mortel qui n’ont pas d’expérience en 4x4 cela suffis largement à aider le conducteur dans des situations délicates.

[@Softroader]

C'est tout le problème de ces vidéos. Elles n'ont pas vocation à dire que ce système est génial ou nul. Elles ne font que montrer des limites, souvent dans un usage qui vont bien au delà de l'usage commun de tous les jours.

[@Rich_123]

Excellent re-test of this awful AWD system!

[@AgentSmith911]

Is the Corolla Cross and other Toyota models the same as this?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Nope, those models have stronger rear electric motors. Here's Rav4: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gqaUmGRpj8uppLs

[@axelcar538]

Perfect test, very compliments

[@An.Individual]

I was confused with the Yaris test. I thought it was FWD, not AWD.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

You mean the one from our test or Rasto Chvala test?

[@stefanomacchi1977]

Were those winter tyres or just standard summer ones?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Looks like winter or all season.

[@YT-LRHS]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers .."looks" but you don't show with any doubt if your're conducting this test with summer tires on snow/ice ...norless why can we be sure youre not de-engaging any system? and finally : are we sure you're testing the AWD model?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@YT-LRHS Do you think that such an experienced driver like Rasto Chvala would be using summer tyres on snow/ice in the mountains? Besides - it doesn't matter. Even if they were slicks - AWD system should spin rear axle. When it comes to systems - watch our full test - there all all modes and ESP/TC configarations tested. It also shows that it's AWD.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@YT-LRHS Any more doubts?

[@andreykakitis7025]

Сравните пожалуйста Honda CR-V 3 и новую хонду🎉🎉🎉😊Спасибо за обзоры....

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Soon 🙂

[@KCKNV]

Useless System, typical for Toyota. We had an RAV4 AWD, same problems. Nobody of this typical Toyota drivers has the skill to handle the situation. Please more real tests. 🙂

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

This was Rasto Chvala, very experienced driver testing the car.

[@KCKNV]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers I realize that and that's not what I meant. I mean the normal Toyota driver.

[@harrihonkanen823]

Which drive mode is used? If "normal", this makes sense but there should be "trail" and "snow" modes available. According to Toyota: "Trail mode can be used to help negotiate tricky situations where one or more of the wheels cannot grip the road surface, for example on very uneven ground. The AWD-i system will automatically brake any spinning wheels, directing drive force to those with grip. Snow mode tempers throttle response to help pull away securely from stationary or accelerate to maintain controllability when driving on snow or ice."

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@harrihonkanen823 In this case it doesn't matter at all. The problem is in torque transfer of rear axle, not in wheel braking.

[@ikusha84]

All this is done on purpose, if they implement the same A-TRAC (which is just a software thing with beafer brake vacuum pump) on Highlander or RAV4 as it is found in 4Runner, Fortuner, Prado and pickups, then who's going to buy them. But i agree that it is not forgivable to design a rear axle like that, both tires with perfect grip and no command is given to el. motor

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Actually petrol version of Yaris Cross has much more effective awd system. There's no A-TRAC but there are different driving modes also.

[@dfogapfadfigah5369]

​@@4x4.tests.on.rollers there is no awd version off the Yaris Cross that isn't a hybrid, you are probably referring to the Corolla cross which has awd available for hybrid and non hybrid versions. Non hybrid not available in Europe though.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@dfogapfadfigah5369 There is non hybrid Yaris Cross AWD but it's not available in Europe. I do not refer to Corolla Cross.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@dfogapfadfigah5369 Here's our comment on both systems: facebook.com/share/p/duD9zLcbJn3cAaej/

[@dfogapfadfigah5369]

​@@4x4.tests.on.rollersok thanks for the info that's very interesting, I never would have thought they made that. It's a shame they never sold it in Europe, it would make the car very capable as it's already lightweight and compact but that crap awd-i system lets it down. Btw you should check the facelift awd-i Yaris cross that just started being sold to see if there are any differences in it's performance.

[@1wasinAlpha]

if you could get your hands on a Honda Shuttle 4WD somehow, please test right away. Thank you

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

It will be very difficult to find...

[@masterr9942]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers the crv 1 gen has same real time 4wd drive

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@masterr9942 So it will be the same as HR-V: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bXu7mnuvYth9apY

[@1wasinAlpha]

@@masterr9942 gen 1 CR-V don't have the VSA system that brakes the free spinning wheel like the Shuttle does. So, it would not be the same...

[@vaku3810]

А по европейским законам нельзя ли Тойоту нагнуть за такой «полный» привод?)

[@mdx4145]

That doesn't make any sense. It must be either rear drive is broken or disconnected or software issue. Despite having only 5hp, rear motor has 100Nm of torgue and should be able to move the car from stand still easily. I'm wondering if there was any responce from Toyota to that test

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

There are two different cars here, both behave the same, they are not broken. Rear motor doesn't have 100 Nm but 52 Nm. And there was Toyota response, it's available on our Facebook page. In short - they said that rear axle won't engage if car is not moving.

[@mdx4145]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Toyota's responce is a joke and actually not true. On your another video rear axle engages when both wheels on same side are on rollers, we can see that rear wheel is spinning. BTW, if car is moving then no need to engage rear axle at all.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@mdx4145 They probably meant engaging with any serious torque applied, not just a few Nm which spin the wheel on a roller. Besides - even on a roller, rear is not spinning continuously, it's disengaged most of the time.

[@Dzalesin]

Look like sabotage from Toyota engineers😁!

[@wasjaprjanikow412]

🙈

[@kaloyancholakov3725]

AWD needs desperately a software update

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

It's mechanical limitation.

[@Xandro_B20]

What a load of crap. My Mk2 CRV petrol never got me stuck in snow even with summer tyres.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@Xandro_B20 Equipped with VSA?

[@Xandro_B20]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollersMK2 not equipped with VSA. Good old fashioned viscous coupling, sends power to the rears if front starts to slip. Got me thru worst snow in winter 2022.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@Xandro_B20 There's no viscous coupling. There's hydraulic, dual pump system, also sending power to the rear if front starts to slip (only reactive system). With no VSA, it performs like this HR-V: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bXu7mnuvYth9apY

[@JohnDoe-ti6pd]

It is robbery, not AWD :(

[@krzysztofs4477]

God, what a crap... and why does Toyota offer something like this? It was enough to use a classic drive using a shaft and axle shaft....

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@krzysztofs4477 They do use it in petrol version of Yaris Cross. But the hybrid is different...

[@lucaclementini4220]

this is a shame for Toyota.

[@krys8870]

It should be fixed by Toyota recall compagin. Awd simply not working at all.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

These are only specific situations shown in the video. In general it works but limitations are quite big.

[@krys8870]

They can call test on rollers "specific sytuation". These are real life situations 🙂.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@krys8870 Indeed 🙂

[@SOMEONE-ME]

When you watch this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pnq3fXuJmK-gjLc which is latest LBX based on the same system then you start thinking why it's so bad in case of Toyota. LBX in my opinion performs very well.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

The video you linked doesn't show much, no hard conditions. But take a look at UX on snowy hill, with the same system, it's a disaster... kzbin.info/www/bejne/rZ7Yc3V3mrVlfZosi=21ZphxwIKEVxdLOP

[@SOMEONE-ME]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers You expect too much from this system. Read Toyota's description for it. They use very cautious wording and they never say it's as good as "normal" AWD system. It still helps in certain situations compared to FWD. It's up to buyers to decide if it's worth the money. Multilink suspension itself is probably worth more than actual AWD abilities. The rollers may be actually "too soft" for the system. Real world tests are definitely much better, but still show that AWD-i is no match to "real" AWD (rather not so surprisingly, specially in Yaris Cross).

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@SOMEONE-ME What I expect from the system which costs up to 3300 Euro is that it will spin rear wheels when it's needed. But it doesn't do that, sliding backwards on snowy hill with front wheels spinning forward and rear spinning backwards is unacceptable. Multilink suspension is great but it won't help you when you are stuck. And whey it comes to Toyota description - they use the same as for Rav4, including TRAIL mode.

[@JohnDoe-ti6pd]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Again 3300 EUR robbery as in Toyota Yaris Cross AWD-i. Today, Toyota don't know how to make effective 4x4. Check this - kzbin.info/www/bejne/mnLYd62wrqueos0 from 05:10 to 07:10. First is Grand Vitara (for India market) with poor NA engine with only 146 Nm, but perfect AllGrip, second is again Grand Vitara, but produced by Toyota as Urban Hyrider with the same technics under the hood and the result is very different - simply Brake Traction Control is very ineffective.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@JohnDoe-ti6pd But they say it was due to worn out clutch, Toyota was previously on offroad events.

[@vaku3810]

Ребята, спасибо большое за работу. Вы маленькие и не растёте так, как должны, но эти ролики на века.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Thanks!

[@pablomoreno1999]

What is the point of awd if when the front slips. The rear is never enough. What were the engineers at toyota thinking...

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Fuel efficiency?

[@pablomoreno1999]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers i mean yes but why add something that barely works.... They could have just added the drive modes and leave it at 2wd... I think that system needs a rethink. Over here it's a 3300 euros extra...

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@pablomoreno1999 Yes, that's much too much for a system with limited operation. At least you get multilink rear suspension with it.

[@scott8919]

Absolutely pathetic.

[@SOMEONE-ME]

It's probably due to fact that rear motor is very weak and it can help, but only a bit (it can't "push" car much by itself). At the end it's not very efficient system at all and probably not worth the extra money.

[@zygmuntzarzecki]

awd-i porazka

[@miguelojera2356]

Looks like they prioritized efficiency over capability. It could use a more powerful electric motor and some programming for it to work properly.

[@petersparrow5321]

Rather vice versa

[@OutdoorFun01]

I'm not surprised with Toyota... but this is the worst yet!

[@davidpatterson1657]

That's terrible

[@akademik_st]

Самое страшное, что чем дальше тем дерьмовее современные автомобили

[@jankowalski-lg4zx]

Suzuki górą😁

[@andreykakitis7025]

Современные машины не внушают доверия совершенно,но легенды уже старенькие😅Хотя у меня Хонда с пробегом 138000 км.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Full slip test of Toyota Yaris Cross (vs Suzuki Vitara): kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJnbdH1-aZKorrM kzbin.info/www/bejne/g4jIeXltfJ6bjLc

[@JohnDoe-ti6pd]

All slovak testers including Mr. Chvala were very satisfied with this "AWD" system. Mr. Chvala in his video said that he think, all wheels slipping, when the car was sliding downhill. But we all can see his mistake. No one word of disappointment with AWD-i from these testers. This is the first negative test of this almost useless system compared in "laboratory" and real world environment. Result is clear - AWD-i is only marketing trick how to raise sales numbers. Good job and big thanks, 4x4.test.on.rollers !

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@JohnDoe-ti6pd Rasto didn't say any bad word but he couldn't climb that hill, he got stuck. He did it later on by trickery - on a reverse gear.

[@JohnDoe-ti6pd]

​​​​​​​​​​​​@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Yes, I saw that and laughed long and loud 😂 But in another test, only Rasto complained on SSY Korando's drivetrain. All other journalists were very satisfied with that car. Based by their false positive reviews I bought that car, then was very disappointed and after 7 month replaced that junk with Vitara. For me all known reviews describe Yaris Cross AWD-i as almost perfect car. But if I bought this Toyota, it would fly out of my garage within a week with supersonic speed :) If I will pay 2000 EUR for 4x4, then I want working 4x4, not some fake toy unable to rotate rear wheels even on the rollers. So again, big thank You for this realistic review of this car.

[@jesuscuenca4524]

El Yaris cross no funciona así de mal. Lo pueden ver en otras pruebas. No sé dónde está el fallo de estas.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

These are situations showing where the system may fail. All in all it is helping but it's probably the worst system on the market.

[@tompamannen1022]

What a piece of crap! I've got Haldex on my Golf Alltrack, works perfectly. Push down the antispin button for 3 seconds and the car drives like a rwd in the snow, very fun!

[@davidpatterson1657]

I've got a cross country volvo with haldex and it's probably the best awd system

[@massia.72]

I suggest the same real-life test with the allgrip Suzuki vitara. Thanks!

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Rasto Chvala actually did it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ioqnfnihad6Hjbssi=dHgMt5bEMElwQhiu

[@T.e.d.d.y.]

So fail on rollers is not just a fail on rollers.

[@WAN_Gog]

You have a wonderful channel! I would like to see the Lexus-RX test of various generations on ice, it would be a very visual aid for people who believe in its excellent all-wheel drive and are mistaken about it.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Thank you! Yes, it would be great to test Lexus cars on snow and ice, their systems sometimes are really poor, here's the example on snowy hill: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rZ7Yc3V3mrVlfZosi=ABBYkOW27LL_3gpX

[@WAN_Gog]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers so interesting! thank you

[@RTRtm13]

Is it possible for you to take requests on testing vehicles? I want to see how well the 2022 Mitsubishi RVR / ASX / outlander sport does, people are saying it has been the same vehicle for 10 years but I would like to see if they have actually did improvements on the system.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

You are lucky - in April we'll be testing the 2022 Outlander Sport.

[@RTRtm13]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers that’s great! I asked this because my family bought a 2022 Mitsubishi RVR GT up here in Canada and it feels great in the snow so I actually want to know how much did it actually improved all these years. May have done some power slides innit too lol

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@RTRtm13 Is it branded as RVR in Canada? I thought this name is for Japan only.

[@RTRtm13]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers yea it’s branded RVR in Canada, apparently in the GT trim we have the full panoramic sunroof with orange LED light stripes along the side, with also have the heated steering wheel, bilndspot monitoring, lane keep assist(just beeps at you when your out of lane), and detects when a pedestrian or vehicle drives behind you when reversing and ofc FCM standard. We also have the AWC badge whilst the outlander sport (In the USA) doesn’t have the panoramic sunroof nor the AWC badge in their top trim. There’s also some features in the top trim of the ASX that are missing the features we have in Canada like the heated steering wheel I’m pretty sure. USA offers the trail edition and ralliart but they are just disappointing because they have the low powered 2.0L and didn’t put the 2.4L. They also have the same amount of features as the lower trims. That’s pretty much my rant on this vehicle.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@RTRtm13 Interesting. I had the 2010 ASX with 1.8 diesel engine, it was really nice car. Here's our test of 2013 version: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jKGtiWl4mpegi80 I'm also curious if ten years later it's different, we'll see soon :)

[@einsam_aber_frei]

How do you make only one wheel spin?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@einsam_aber_frei It's the car.

[@yatamann2155]

雪道の所　なんで四駆にならないの?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

It's all wheel drive.

[@yatamann2155]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers フロントスリップしたら四駆になるのよ　ヤリスクロスは

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@yatamann2155 As you can see in the video, rear electric motor is too weak to spin the axle and power it by itself.

[@rodbender7946]

Are you guys driving this correctly? When a wheel begins to spin excessively and the spinning wheel is flashing orange on the dash, this means you need to apply the brakes and stop the excessive spinning, then apply the accelerator gently to engage the AWD system. This is a light AWD, not an extreme 4x4.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@rodbender7946 There's no such a procedure to engage awd system.

[@rodbender7946]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers This is an ultra efficient hybrid with a tiny electric motor driving the rear wheels and a very small battery. Its designed this way to prevent drivers from getting a wheel bogged in mud from excessive spinning. Its not ideal but I can understand the reasoning. It compromises efficiency over off road performance.

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@@rodbender7946 We know very well what the system is. Rear axle is powered by a Q510 1MM electric motor, generating 3.9 kW (5.3 HP) and 52 Nm. It is simple induction motor (no energy recovery function like in Rav4 Hybrid), the amount of oil in the unit is ~1.3l, the weight of the unit is ~30 kg. The motor has two shafts/gearings with final ratio of 10,487. This should result in a rear axle torque at the level of ~545 Nm but rear axle on its own is not able to push the car. Even if only one front wheel loses traction, car needs help from traction control system. Under full throttle AWD-i system is always active up to ~40 km/h, up to 70 km/h it is active if slippage is detected. Non-hybrid Yaris Cross AWD uses traditional awd system with driveshaft and JTEKT electromagnetic coupling (ITCC), there are different driving modes - Mud&Sand and Rock&Dirt.

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@@4x4.tests.on.rollers I saw another video where both left wheels go on the rollers, the car drives off the rollers, it was a yaris cross hybrid

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@@rodbender7946 That was probably our video, we did full roller test. Car passes lateral and diagonal tests due to traction control intervention on front axle.