The UNFORTUNATE Truth About my STI.

[@_Machine631_]

newer paints and flakes, and metallics are sometimes more difficult without getting the really really good stuff. but it's a learning curve. things like this always set us back. but i like the fact you critique yourself and always strive to do better. keep at it bro. you've already come a long way from when you first started painting.

[@jonathanmillar7519]

Devin I agree that you should ask bobbi's dad for some guidance on the bumper he also might be able to steer you in the right direction on how to resolve your paint issue keep up the great work you and bobbi are going from strength to strength

[@CCDVIDEO]

Devin your detailing game has improved A LOT from when I started following you around 2017/2018ish... I know this because I myself am a full time detailer since 2013. So happy to see you grow and improve yourself. Keep it up 🤟

[@RDele02]

Don’t be too hard on yourself. This is how you learn and get better at the things you do. Put your thinking cap on, use your resources, and show us how you overcome obstacles. You got this!

[@ACLASSVLOG]

Hey Devin I have some experience with paint ;). When you go to a paint store they usually give you the standard mix. In actuality every color has 1-7 variances. Next time an easier route is take off the vehicles gas lid and bring it with you and see if they can color match it off a close variance. Also the reason why your bumper looks milky is because the paint store put too much white tint in the black base. I know it sounds weird but some blacks have a little of white in it to give it that look like for example KH3 on 2006 Infiniti G35's have it vs a super deep black 202 with Toyota that DONT have white tint in the black base which gives it a deeper black. Just my .02 cents. I could be wrong but ask the paint store for the tint formula and see if there is any white or yellow tint in. Hey man Love your channel! Keep it up! Also put some exhaust fans in that booth it will help clear the air!

[@sidecar1000r1]

I've heard that the paint on plastic is never the same as on metal always different but could be wrong, I'm sure you will have it sorted in no time

[@erickvargas5427]

True

[@agloomysunday9048]

naaah u right this is exactly it.

[@delandroboxill8333]

This is absolutely correct. Two different materials absorb the paint differently so bumpers never match the body even from factory.

[@rexnhogz]

ive herd the same.

[@mirex61]

for sure, but this is way off...

[@LuisGonzalez-vi6eq]

20% more rich black toner & maybe about 5-10% more blue pearl. And I would use a black sealer instead of a grey. Could be a coverage issue as well. Some colors need orientation coats which can sometimes darken a color. It’s part of the painting game. It’s how you learn. When you do at home painting and have a paint shop mix it, ask if they have variant chips you can look at. Or if they can do a camera shot and mix that. Usually a lot closer but not always perfect. When you are spraying bumpers, usually look at the color from a “side tone” view. Meaning , look at it from the side looking down the panel. If it matches you will be fine. The head one view can be a little off and you won’t notice as much because for the most part all colors look better in the sun. Good luck!

[@naticedog]

You need truth around you. Proud of Jared, good friends are tough to come by. Keep up the good work!

[@quintinhayward6019]

A lot of the time especIally on pearl colours such as this you’ll need a specific undercoat, on black usually a black undercoat is needed, I may be wrong but from the video it looked like it was painted straight over the grey primer, which may be why the paint match isn’t as close as it should be.

[@joshseppala1003]

This! You may not have enough coverage (I didn’t watch the video we’re you painted it though)

[@robertcook255]

This!! Newer Subaru'a pearls are tri-coat; base, pearl, clear. The paint shop shoulda made you a base (black) and a pearl to match your color code.

[@k4man920]

Greetings from the UK. Take a mirror cap off or something already painted off the car and get the paint shop to match that. I always take something painted off to help the code and car colour match process. Seems to work out much better this way.

[@liamgarrett175]

Hey devin, it’s not that the paint is the wrong colour it’s the fact that the bumper is plastic, it is the exact same for a lot of factory cars that come off the showroom floor, Legend!

[@HatimB]

some paints settle differently on plastics rather than metal panels - comparison is when two panels are painted at the same time. I witnessed it twoce when painted at a pro shop, both colors were metallic with flakes

[@leftyo9589]

pearls, and metal flake are not for the faint of heart when it comes to matching. even if the color was a 100% dead on match, the flake will screw you over.

[@du5771]

Another way to get a better color match is to bring a small piece like a mirror cap or a fuel tank cap and they should be able to match it pretty close. I been doing it this way for a while and almost never had issues...

[@silentaxeii8520]

I also love polishing, next time if you don’t mind I’d like to see how you do your steps on the polishing with the new polisher and the type of pad and polish for each step 🙏

[@TheBiinXimus]

Plastic bumper give off a static charge if cleaned down with cloth rags. This can make the pigments sit different compared to the adjacent metal parts. I would spray out a card and see if it looks different for clarity 🙂

[@LunatrixEX]

Just watched this whole video. and i said to myself "Man hes learning alot with this one" Youre gonna fix it and kill it per usual. part of the game for you. dont sweat keep going !

[@1emerson1]

Ask around for a digital color matching tool. Not relevant now but sealer is great for uniformity across different material. Looking forward to learning with you.

[@limyr_up]

there are no turn signals in the ptf now and in the headlights too. you need to change the headlights to new ones or change the PTF masks with a turn signal. here's my logbook, also redone. you can make an adapter for new headlights with a turn signal yourself

[@pkm808_hi7]

Aloha from Hawaii, I am not a pro painter but I think the grey primer is lightening up your black metallic paint. try using a black primer then paint your black metallic.

[@CraigShanks1]

Bumper would have benefited with a black wet n wet before base coat. Also get a camera reading off the bonnet or wings for the closest match possible. A Paint shop should be able to do this for you and provide the formula 👍

[@sherwaynewilliamson7072]

🇯🇲 Jamaica waving high on your page!!!

[@ryanjohnson8581]

I have that issue with my 02 wrx Sedona red wrx. Got it painted from a friend didn’t match and took it to a shop cuz someone back into my car and came out perfectly. Have some people look at it and might have to mix up a small amount and spay it on a paper and see if it’ll match okay

[@buggyboysny2284]

Try using shop line base coat instead of omni. Omni generally has 0 variants usually just one color fits all for a paint code. Try asking your local paint shop to get you a Vin matched variant paint code.

[@crazyloco8844]

Yeah, that's frustrating! The bumper is Definitely a difference in Color!...and the OEM COLOR is beautiful! It needs to be as close to the OEM color as possible, for IT to Flow as ONE.🤔😉

[@x1R1SHPR1DEx]

Color difference is able to be seen on camera. It's gotta be worse in person. Paint job looks good tho and work your is awesome. You mentioned a spray out panel. I would spray out a panel with just the grey primer as base and then with a black base. See if that changes the color. Then the paint shop or a painter can advise which steps to take. Another thing when you are purchasing a paint color you can ask the paint shop how many variants there are to that color. Most paint shops have the chips for those variants I'm not sure the paint shop will have those but you could ask when painting your next project then take a panel with you to compare to each paint chip and get tye variant closest to your color

[@evtimevtimov1978]

Hey bro, you dont need to loose two days for this, the colour doesnt match obviously, but just water sand it with 1200 to remove some of the clear coat, then get the new paint already tuned and tested on a card and just spray it.

[@tannercrawford4547]

Thats unfortunate man because it is showing up on camera. I have the same issue with my back bumper and with a spoiler I had painted for a pearl white 03 oz rally lancer (evo mock up). You were so excited with this car cause there wasn't a whole lot you had to do to it now the paint isn't well you're having to spend lots of extra time when you didn't think you had to. Keep your head up cause once its fixed you'll be relieved. Keep up the hard work and try not to stress. Until next time 🤙🤙

[@SamFisherzzz]

I have the same color on my sti and I got the bumper resprayed last year at a body shop. I have the same color difference. It's more grey then the original paint.

[@_J_U_S_T_I_N_]

Fuckin Devin. Filming, cutting and polishing, and editing and posting all in the same day. How many other channels can say that shit? Props to the channels that actually do all their own work on their cars.

[@ivtec4fun55]

Paint is so tough to get right. So much better to spray the whole car at once, but I'm no painter, so that's my work around.

[@Tippermorgan]

Plastics can be a pain for matching and when I sprayed my blue Subaru before I had to use a specific colour primer to make the colour come through proper

[@Damiao414]

What’s up Devin, to me on camera it almost looks like the clear is cloudy vs the paint being a bit grayer so to say. Either way don’t always put your self down man that paint job came out amazing. Love the daily vlogs man always love to see another brother progress and prosper.

[@Ricardo_Wade]

When I had to spray the updated bumpers on my rsx type S I took the gas door to the paint store and they did enough alterations to get it 99% close, when I know there is not a match myself it drives me nuts even if everyone else says it's good

[@gerwinfilmz3701]

Im assuming your buying your paint from English color here in Texas that’s where they sell the paint in Omni, Omni plus and deltron. Make sure you take a sample with you off the car so that they can match it to the best of they’re ability. Also sealer plays a big role in paint. The slight hint of grey the bumper has could be the sealer underneath, don’t ask me how just from experience I’ve had it happen! With that being said if your painting black, try and go with a black base/ sealer to get a better match and better coverage. Same thing goes for any color if your going red or blue any light colors, you can use grey/white. This time around just sand everything down and get straight to painting no sealer, you’ll just need half a pint to make it work… I really feel your struggle I’ve been in the paint industry for years yet I still run into the most basic issues yet… best of luck hope this helps!!!

[@quinlafrance3260]

Yo if you are in Spokane and getting ur paint from Wesco they 100% will throw in some extra toner to tint with. Getting paint to match with off a paint code is almost impossible ESPECIALLY with metallic. Just for next time. Also Omni will never pop like deltron. If I was you I’d try Lumabase relatively close in price but they actually have a chip to match to the car. I’ve worked for the company for over 5 years 3 selling paint over the counter. Been watching for along time love that you aren’t afraid to learn by doing extremely inspiring.

[@DWPerformance]

Factory color of primer was grey. The new bumper was black. Makes a big difference when finalizing.

[@Sti_chris05]

The pearls are ok but needs more of deep black toner to make it darker. I have a mixer and the to different blacks. One is a deep black and the other is like a chocolate black. Need more of the deep black than the other.

[@vettepicking]

Spray test cards , then clear with spray can clear. And pick the match, i use ppg for best matches

[@CwDetails]

You need some 3” pads or even a nano polisher for Smaller areas to stop burn throughs on edges.

[@BjornFSE]

yeah the samplecards would have been good to check the color match, good lesson learned & teaching others in the process.. You'll get it right.

[@noelperrott4468]

Hey Devin. I watch all your videos and enjoy everything you do. When it comes to paint I’ve been restoring and painting cars for 40 years. The basic rule is if you want your colours to match , especially metallics you can’t use shitty paint companies. You need to use glasurit or Standox only. You will not have the problem your having if you use one of these companies. Remember all paint companies have to make there own formulas for every paint code and they only do what they think matches where the company that supplies paints to Subaru is probably one of the top two companies. Something for you to think about. Don’t blend that colour. It will look like hell. Good luck with your work.

[@coltadams45]

i'm proud of Jared for being honest! What a good friend. :D

[@mstarn00]

Throw the carbon hood back on and you won't notice as much plastics are harder to get to match metal and alot also has to do with the primer layer

[@boostedandbagged9874]

I've heard of people mixing some base coat in the primer not sure if that would help though. Like you said the bumper looks a little like it has a grey tint to it versus the rest of the car looks like a deeper black with more blue flake in it. Just something to think about if no one else has suggested it or if you yourself haven't thought about it.

[@javieraguilar1615]

U could also take your gas cap to an auto body shop that color matches the paint, I did it with my car, then just did a blend 👍

[@craigtrigg4288]

yes i agree with you as well its dont match , but you will get it right loved watching

[@ChazzyMcD]

Probably will never be perfect, my car was hit and run last year. CWP WRX and my bumper is off a bit, learned to live with it for now.

[@jeremysneddon898]

Maybe buy some spray out cards and test color next time. Put it up to the factory paint snap a pic and if the paint shop is cool they might be able to tint it a little better!

[@joegiles8503]

I have seen where the primer or sealer shows through try a black base don't remember what you started with.

[@zanerclark]

I can tell you right now that finding the right color would be the right move instead of ruining the OEM paint by attempting to blend. Take it to a paint shop and have them make the correct shade of paint and redo the bumper

[@kevinbean9380]

0 experience painting and think it looks rlly good. thought it matched fine till u turned the car around outside and the camera caught the color not matching = /. @10:59. It did come out rlly good honestly lol

[@nachoevo8034]

I have ran into this issue before and possibly looks like a darker color sealer would have been a better option for that color paint.

[@stevendurbin9006]

Had happen few times over years I use too just add more clear to get it more deep or just order another new bumper cover and start fresh and sell the first one when finished

[@minermes6078]

some lacquers can also have a slight tint to them green blue or yellow so could be that if the actual paint is correct

[@Eli-jah098]

I started painting my own cars my self and I did notice when you go to the paint store and ask for them to mix up some paint from just the code it’s always way off, but I started leaving a bad piece from the car like bad fender or just the gas lid if it unbolts then they mix up the paint testing it on the part you bring in if it matches. Ask if you paint store can do that as well. But don’t bring in a plastic part from the car like a bumper because paint is always different on plastics then metal.

[@dennissmith6246]

Youll get it down man keep up the progress you an bobbi should come check out the rod run in long beach Washington its a good car show cars of all stort show up for the week end an pack are town full

[@artblackwood7936]

Getting colors right is not easy. Seeing you are trying a metalic color, you are going to have to get lucky to get a good match, edge to edge. Pressure and speed of appication seem to have an impact on how the metalic portion lays down. And the olor seemed to have more of a difference in natural light. Thay implys that the actual chemicals making up the mix are not the same. Two dyes can have the same pantone/color number but look very different in different lights.

[@shonwright61]

So the color is more of a chrome look compared to the black of the car out in the sunlight. Def. Dont blend respray the bumper after the shop corrects the paint. Def. Do a card and double check then respray the front of the car. Sorry the bumper didn't turn out man keep up the great work 👍

[@Kidkato]

The fact that the camera picked up the difference in the color when you took it outside makes me think that the difference looks even worse in person

[@ThatwhiteSTI]

Let’s go keep up the STI content

[@mmmadog]

I think body shops sand the panels next to the bumpers like the hood and fenders than blend it all in when they paint it. Also can you buy the paint from Subaru??

[@Yoooguurt10]

Hey devin… lighter sealers will cause the base coat to be brighter if that makes sense? Meaning lighter colors use a lighter sealer like white, medium colors use a gray, and dark colors use dark gray/black (depending on which brand of sealer you use). The paint shop should be able to give you the correct sealer mixture for the base you are spraying.

[@lang2vicious]

You’ve gotten into a real flow with the consistency and style with your videos. I really enjoy spending my time watching your channel , keep it up brodie! I hope to meet and speak in person one dayz

[@harris19863]

Awesome work, but honestly as an accredited detailer with a number of brands I'd highly recommend getting at least Rupes LHR75 for the smaller areas. Using the 5inch pad on 1 and 2 inch sections really isn't wise and you'll end up with a lot more pad stall and destroy pads quicker not to mention overlap on to areas you don't want to. You'll also become much more efficient too 😊

[@lukeslater3469]

The front bumper does look MORE grey compared to the rest of the car🤔😎👌🏻. It does still look pretty descent though Devin.

[@brandoncoyaso9053]

Beautiful work man all love ❤️ from Hawaii

[@codythill2659]

Next time buy a cheap spatula and do a spray out on it and check outside against the car… then you can determine if you need a a darker primer/sealer coat etc… just a cheap way to avoid this hope it helps in someway!

[@guitaradam2000]

My Subaru Levorg is the same colour as your STi, and I had the roof resprayed 'professionally'. But when I got it back, I noticed the very same difference between the original paint and the resprayed roof. I wonder if the Subaru colour code information is not actually 100% accurate. Fortunately its only my roof so I don't notice it too much, but when its in the garage and light hits its, it bugs me.

[@LivingLife128]

go look at some brand new factory cars, especially hondas and you will notice the bumpers don't match perfectly. only the ocd will notice the shade being off. if you want it perfect you might need to respray the whole front end

[@Augie..]

Ask Bobbi's dad for some tips fam, if that's a thing in you're comfortable with. Blending techniques would also be helpful for painting only certain pieces. especially if you compare your first paint job in mind.

[@davesyoutubechannel1951]

I've always want an sti since being a kid. Hopefully one day🤙

[@KennyJ540]

Would have been much darker had you just used adhesion promoter as your primer/sealant (new plastic doesnt need a primer). The primer you used is what is throwing it off and making it look lighter. I honestly wouldn't waste your time with a respray unless you plan on blending it into the hood and fenders. That's alot of work, so it would be good practice if you have time, to hit up junkyards for panels and learn blending techniques before attempting them on this car. Painting is super fun, but its alot of work. Good luck!

[@texaspowerman]

It’s going to end up a great sti. We have faith, your cars look all the time. It’s obvious on camera that it doesn’t match. Perhaps it’s time to build a paint corner in the shop. I’ve seen some great results with tinted clear as well as the base. Maybe a higher quality paint. I’ve never used an epoxy under the base, could it be causing the slight color shift?

[@One21P]

Damn. If Jered can spot the paint mismatch, then any other average person can too. On camara the Subaru black has a blue or purple tint, the bumper has a green or yellow tint on reflections.

[@DialedInAutoDetailing]

Metal and plastic are always going to look different you can look at an orange Subaru and compare the fender and the bumper and they will be a close match but color will be off

[@jamessmurf7937]

Just to make u feel better Devin i bitched when my new Honda Civic needed the front bumper resprayed at a certified paint shop, it did not match and that is with the correct colour and tint paint :/

[@samnice5314]

Jared’s take lmao (walks around)…….”it doesn’t match bro”😂

[@gimmethecarkeys]

Peep that new oven! So glad you finally got that bad boy. Going to save you so much time... loving the content as always big D! 💪💪💪

[@ejblobaru1220]

you need to see how many paint code is in that paint if you know what i mean my 04 wrx was 18L buuuttt when i want to blend in the whole front end it was fucked the reason is that in that paint code you have 18L,18L/1,18L/9 and they are not the same they have diffrent amount of pearl,on my car plate it saids 18L but the right paint code is 18L/9 with much more gold pearl

[@davidkabwesimwinga1957]

Watching from 🇿🇲 Zambia

[@johnchase3059]

Sucks that the paint doesn't match, but it's awesome to see the quality of your work improve. The paint job itself looks professional as heck👍🤙!!

[@lucian7182]

Repainted my cwp bumper 3 times could not get it to match perfectly. The average person wouldn’t notice but a car guy would up close.

[@scorpiolexx]

UnfortunatelyI must commit that there is a big difference visible even on camera...and I was watching this video on my phone. It's just like you say...the bumper is more grey and the whole car looks like it has more dark blue pearl but otherweise you've done a great paintjob 😉

[@red_dragonracingsilvereclipes]

I would say go to bobby's dad and see if he can get the right paint match for it that is way off of what its should be Devin i have had flip flop paint do that to me drove me bat shit crazy right color and all but the paint was flip flopping the wrong way.

[@kevinssketches]

sorry about the paint. hopefully... re playing @13:12 at .025 speed, puts a smile on your face.

[@darrenfotheringham]

Amazing attention to detail ☝️

[@HosheaYahawadah]

It could be the clear also...sometimes different clears give colors different results...

[@althaf_iam]

It's not evening, 2am in the morning I wait up for your videos.

[@kparkvw]

Bumper kind of looks like dark gray metallic 😕

[@erickvargas5427]

You ll get it right... cuz i know you wont sleep well if you dont get it to where it makes you happy... been watching the channel long enough to know this bit

[@css172]

it looks like the car has a bumper bra...sorry the colour match is bad and I'm sure you're not happy with it and will fix it.

[@css172]

@Buddy Repperton 🤣🤣

[@kymoneyreactionsandgaming7482]

You can use a ground coat

[@anonymous6563]

You could always go down the wrapping route instead of repainting it. Maybe just wrap the front but than again you may not see the pearls from the actual paint.

[@steezjenkins]

It’s a bummer. It’s a no. That paint does not match. Good on ya for being legit with yourself knowing it’s not correct. You build rad stuff. You can’t sign off on this one.

[@8145dwerdna]

Some places can computer match paint when mixing it. You'd need to bring a piece off of it tho.

[@andrewb7057]

Common thing people do testers on a plastic that looks like the shape of a car you lay base and clear over it so you can know what you gonna look like

[@reillymcculloch2992]

The ceramic coat might also make a difference in the paint tints, not a huge difference but definitely some

[@King_Rematch]

def can see the difference on cam, live n learn

[@NeroKoso]

Yep, cam picks it up really well. Damn.