Dwarves: The Costumes of Middle Earth

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Jess of the Shire

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@HS-su3cf
@HS-su3cf Жыл бұрын
Thorin's eye-brows were given to Thranduil.
@Jess_of_the_Shire
@Jess_of_the_Shire Жыл бұрын
Incredible observation
@charlottao9472
@charlottao9472 Жыл бұрын
😂
@k49821
@k49821 Жыл бұрын
💀
@ParameterGrenze
@ParameterGrenze 4 ай бұрын
Poor Thorin had to sell them.
@allthings2allmen
@allthings2allmen 2 ай бұрын
@@ParameterGrenze Eyebrow poker?...raise me an eyebrow...no not raze!!!
@harrisonbloom816
@harrisonbloom816 7 ай бұрын
Who at the studio really thought the fans would say “I wasn’t gonna see that Hobbit movie, but now that I know three of the dwarves are hot-!!!”
@isabelnoyer5893
@isabelnoyer5893 6 ай бұрын
To be completely frank, I only watch The Hobbit's trilogy to thirst over Thorin. Not proud of this, but there you go... 😅
@harrisonbloom816
@harrisonbloom816 6 ай бұрын
@@isabelnoyer5893 i stand corrected then!
@TheVanne2108
@TheVanne2108 6 ай бұрын
@@isabelnoyer5893 My best friend and I still watch the movies at least twice a year to thirst (also because of many other aspects, but let's be honest, who doesn't like to look at pretty people)
@poki580
@poki580 4 ай бұрын
women obviously
@alang.bandala8863
@alang.bandala8863 25 күн бұрын
Jeffry Epstein
@sbskinner369
@sbskinner369 Жыл бұрын
One of my absolute favorite details of Gimli's costume is the flower design at the crest of his helmet. It definitely makes me think that the costume designers were taking inspiration from the relationship between Gimli and Galadriel. I have no proof of this, but it's my head cannon 😅
@Jess_of_the_Shire
@Jess_of_the_Shire Жыл бұрын
Oh I hadn't noticed that, great catch! And who knows, maybe it was a connection to Galadriel. That would be super neat
@Doombringer55
@Doombringer55 Жыл бұрын
"With a bit of elbow grease" "Best I can do is talcum sweat"
@j.s.c.4355
@j.s.c.4355 Жыл бұрын
Dwarven runes look like Futhark, which is ancient Germanic/Skandinavian/ Anglo Saxon runes. These runes were angular because they were meant to be carved into trees with a knife. I think dwarves has much the same constraints. Their runes has to be written with chisels in stone-so straight lines and simple angles.
@Andystuff800
@Andystuff800 Жыл бұрын
John Rhys-Davies was not allergic to the prosthetics, though that’s a lot easier to explain so I understand why they went with that. He explained in an interview (which I linked in a.comment on another one of your videos) what actually happened: the glue they used for the prosthetics rips a thin layer of skin off when it’s removed. That’s fine for occasional use, but after doing this for several days in a row, he had no skin around the eyes and therefore they had nothing to attach his prosthetics to. It was so bad hegot extremely self conscious and therefore barely socialised with the rest of the cast. Despite this he thinks it was worth it for the film and does not regret it.
@TrekBeatTK
@TrekBeatTK 8 ай бұрын
Not as bad as Tucker Smallwood who had such a bad reaction to eye makeup on Enterprise that he required corrective surgery.
@Northfan42
@Northfan42 5 ай бұрын
Yeah. Any talk of inflammation, skin weeping or other irritations is passed off as allergy, rather than the inevitable cumulative result of using the harsh adhesive on the face across many consecutive months. I'm fairly certain some of the long-serving background and stunt performers for dwarves, orcs etc. had similar issues, although perhaps to a lesser extent.
@barukkazhad8998
@barukkazhad8998 4 ай бұрын
Dwarves always suffer
@CloudslnMyCoffee
@CloudslnMyCoffee Жыл бұрын
I've watched all three movies multiple times. How did I miss that one of the dwarves had an AXE in his head?!
@ScottHess
@ScottHess Жыл бұрын
I know! I was like ... what is she even talking about? Indeed, a search shows images, and KZbin has the scene where he loses the axe, and tons of comments question if he had it there the entire time.
@timmiller1
@timmiller1 Жыл бұрын
I watched the first hobbit movie at least twice in the theater. I have no recollection of an axe in a head.
@Andystuff800
@Andystuff800 Жыл бұрын
They gloss over it in the theatrical editions but point it out in the extended cut.
@fermintenava5911
@fermintenava5911 Жыл бұрын
Survival instinct?
@ashildrtheswift3028
@ashildrtheswift3028 9 ай бұрын
I learned that because of fanfiction!
@carsonnesbit1178
@carsonnesbit1178 Жыл бұрын
Honestly my only problem with most of the costume design, was that most of the dwarves had really really small beards. So many of the dwarves look like beardlings who were just born yesterday and it makes me sad.
@seangates1451
@seangates1451 Жыл бұрын
I definitely agree with everything here. One of the problems I immediately had the Hobbit movies was how the dwarves didn’t seem as Dwarven as they should have. Didn’t LOOK as Dwarven as they should have. I felt like PJ was trying to do LOTR again, but The Hobbit isn’t that, it shouldn’t be that, and I actually treat the Hobbit movies the same way I do post-Lucas Star Wars: occasionally fun but not canon.
@SimpleTricksNonsense
@SimpleTricksNonsense 2 ай бұрын
By the time we get to Jackson's LOTR and his Hobbit trilogy the dwarf aesthetic had been pretty well established. Several popular properties (D&D and Warhammer for exampe) which took inspiration from Tolkien built upon, borrowed and drove home Dwarf tech, architecture and style.
@sethbartley2212
@sethbartley2212 9 ай бұрын
Wow...just wow. I knew that they put a lot of thought into these kinds of things. But i didnt know. One thing ive noticed that really emphasizes your points is that in the new 4k edition you can really see a lot of these details. This means the makers did all of this work believing that it would never be seen on camera. Very impressive.
@TheCD123
@TheCD123 Жыл бұрын
The more I think about it, the more I think the Hobbit should have been the TV series. The amount of characters and the episodic nature of the adventure really lends itself to that medium, where certain episodes could give each character a bit of the spotlight. Idk, my thoughts on the hobbit trilogy are complicated and unresolved. Ignore my rambling lol. Great video though! I really appreciate when someone can go into such detail about how something as simple as a characters clothing in a book actually has a huge amount of complexity in a visual medium. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
@ashildrtheswift3028
@ashildrtheswift3028 9 ай бұрын
A series would've been so much fun, and would have given them the room needed to explore the characters
@picahudsoniaunflocked5426
@picahudsoniaunflocked5426 5 ай бұрын
The gold lips are the best nod to mining.
@lauramathews3151
@lauramathews3151 Жыл бұрын
Nori is a type of seaweed and his hair is starfish like...
@doom1609
@doom1609 6 ай бұрын
The head axe tug of war scene is one of my favorite scenes in The Hobbit trilogy not only for its comedy but because it’s the first time we hear both Bifur and Bomber speak (in English )
@BecauseOfDragons
@BecauseOfDragons Жыл бұрын
Fun watch and I liked the breakdown of the culture of the Dwarves and the exploration of their different costumes. I like how much thought went into a lot of their designs but you are right, some of them just don't work or get swallowed up by the fact that they tried to make everyone feel that more important than they needed to be. I still find the movies very charming and I love the relationship shown on screen between Bilbo, Thorin, Balin and Bofur - but, it just doesn't work in the whole which is a real shame because I love The Hobbit. A tale for another video as you say. It's fascinating that you mention Thorin's eyebrows as when you look at some of the early posters released for the films, his eyebrows are pretty wild and he looks like a Klingon rather than a Dwarf! I guess that might have played a factor in the changes as well. I am a big fan of Dwarves and the stories about them in Middle-earth (and Norse Mythology) so having a video exploring them like this was a lot of fun. Great watch as always.
@Jess_of_the_Shire
@Jess_of_the_Shire Жыл бұрын
I still certainly find the dwarves delightful! Even with their issues, the performances really make them a lot of fun. You can tell a lot of love went into it. And apparently they were switching up Thorin's look a ton, including having to reshoot bag-end material because they changed his makeup. So maybe the eyebrows were a reaction to previous attempts... Thanks for watching!
@mariyontil
@mariyontil Жыл бұрын
The Dwarves are among my favorites. Not only are they unique, but they're also much more down-to-earth and relatable than the Elves and Men, in my opinion, probably because they were only really developed in Bilbo's story. Technically, aren't the Ents probably more unique, however? Shouldn't the Dwarves have rather similar armor to the Men of the North? I mean, Thorin once remarks, "Fathers would beg us to take their sons as apprentices, and pay us handsomely, especially in food-supplies, which we never bothered to grow or find for ourselves", and from The Peoples of Middle-Earth, we get the impression their economy relies heavily on trade. As for historical parallels, wouldn't the best ones typically be either Viking or ancient Hebrew armor? Those seem to be Tolkien's two inspirations, anyway. I would still argue it would be far more accurate to the book if they had given Bombur Bofur's role, as he is actually more or less the "nice & funny" Dwarf in the book (his conversation with Bilbo in "A Knife in the Dark" is one of my favorite scenes, but fair enough. Thank you for the video. I sometimes wonder if it would have been better to cast someone who is actually the height of a Dwarf, as that might help differentiate Gimli from the Hobbits with different proportions and be easier anyway for the filmmakers when Gimli was mostly with Men and Elves.
@PaceFilmsProductions
@PaceFilmsProductions 7 ай бұрын
I work at Colonial Williamsburg and the wigmakers there have told me that they are still being affected by the worldwide shortage of yak hair caused by The Hobbit trilogy production.
@squamish4244
@squamish4244 6 ай бұрын
This is what happens when you are trying to direct two films on three hours' sleep. And then the studio orders a third film.
@Deatheater4444
@Deatheater4444 7 ай бұрын
Thorin's costume was quite nice, and quite fitting. It's a shame Richard Armitage was a few decades too young for the role.
@joeyterheide5426
@joeyterheide5426 Жыл бұрын
while I get people want to see the dwarves in The Hobbit in armour, you gotta remember that the dwarves weren't all that rich at the time. And let's be honest, going on a hike to the other side of the continent that involves climbing mountains and what not probably isn't made any easier by being toe to toe clad in steel
@ozzyp97
@ozzyp97 7 ай бұрын
How does the man who directed Ian McKellen as Gandalf come to the conclusion that a beard would impede facial acting? You can practically hear his thoughts every time there's a close up, it's amazing.
@markusszelbracikowski956
@markusszelbracikowski956 6 ай бұрын
Being a 90s kid I have fond memories of Lois and Clark, it would be nice to see that in a NC 😅
@elixtirr2611
@elixtirr2611 Жыл бұрын
The Hobbit trilogy gets a lot of criticism, and a lot of it isn't unfounded. However, if there is one good thing the trilogy brought us, it was Lee Pace's portryal of Thranduil. I loved how the filmmakers created a solid character from Tolkien's somehwat elusive description of "the Elvenking." Earlier depictions of him, such as in the 1977 animated adaptation, portray Thranduil as a more ghastly, almost beast-like character. To me, that portrayal feels a lot more true to the books in the sense that Thranduil is less of an elf, or character for that matter, and more of a grand, domineering presence. From the perspective of Bilbo, and even the Dwarves, he is wild, mysterious, and more than a little hostile. Despite not being completely "book-accurate," I enjoy Lee Pace's portrayal of the Elvenking. He carries the elegance and quiet grace of the elves in the earlier movies, and yet he is in a league of his own. In truth, when I think of standout depictions of Tolkien's elves, I think of Lee Pace's Thranduil. He has this condescending eeriness about him----a sort of tacit "I stand above you. Get out of my way, mortal, or there shall be consquences." With this combined with his jawdropping looks in the movies, it's pretty clear why he has so many people thirsting after him. That elf took the internet by storm in tumblr's heydey, and I still come across art and fanfiction of him from time to time. Even if the individual dwarves didn't seem to make a significant impact on the fandom or the genre of fantasy at large, I feel like the Thranduil of the Jackson movies will always stand alongside, and perhaps even above, the ethereal Galadriel and regal Elrond when it comes to cultivating a distinct archetype for one of Tolkien's characters. And that in itself is quite an achievement.
@Jess_of_the_Shire
@Jess_of_the_Shire Жыл бұрын
I agree! Tranquil was certainly a standout! They definitely had to come up with something more in line with Peter Jackson's other works for the character to fit in a world building sense. And his performance and costume are to die for! He's so terrifying in a disconnected, otherworldly way, especially compared to the dwarves.
@dementiasorrow
@dementiasorrow Жыл бұрын
I was with until you said Lee Pece's thraduil could be above Kate Blanchet's Galadriel. I agree he made a stellar performance and the whole production team made him look iconic but Kate Blanchet's performance as Galadriel is nothing short of Perfection. You could say the are equals but above? It is simply not possible to be above Perfection.
@simonmorris4226
@simonmorris4226 3 ай бұрын
Tolkien’s life experience of lif coloured it . The dwarves are the miners of Wales, the West Midlands and Cornwall. Short, wide ,kind and as brave and tough as you really wouldn’t want to meet on the field of battle!🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@shirleymaemattthews4862
@shirleymaemattthews4862 7 ай бұрын
3:15 Peter Jackson would've saved alot if he used ACTUAL Dwarfs to play the Dwarves in The Hobbit and LOTR, tbh.
@PhoenixBlade
@PhoenixBlade Жыл бұрын
I just can't get over that lipstick. Looks so good. Also food containers in bombur's beard would have been so funny
@orindae1032
@orindae1032 6 ай бұрын
The Hobbit is the first book I read and still my favorite, the movie is also my favorite even though they added things in I still love it.
@michelzwiers7742
@michelzwiers7742 Жыл бұрын
14:03 it's way funnier actually, Bombur comes running back with the axe head and tries to hand it to Bifur and says "Here you go cousin", which is the only line Bombur has across all three hobbit movies
@HolyMith
@HolyMith 6 ай бұрын
Bombur, Dwalin, Gloin and Balin all looked like actual dwarves. The rest looked like regular guys dressed as dwarves. And that's generous for some (Kili, Thorin, Ori I'm looking at you).
@maxb9429
@maxb9429 2 ай бұрын
Nothing beats milking the Dwalin at the end of the day
@zeterzero4356
@zeterzero4356 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, the barrel scene also brings me exceeding amounts of joy. Great video. Thank you for sharing.
@williampalmer8052
@williampalmer8052 Жыл бұрын
I've always read it as Oin = Owen and Gloin = Glowen. It just flows more smoothly.
@qyark
@qyark Жыл бұрын
That is the correct pronunciation
@mousinge
@mousinge 5 ай бұрын
I cannot express how much I don't care that the original story was supposed to be a light children's story all about Bilbo. No matter who the title character is the story is of a DWARVEN quest with great emotional, even existential significance to them that ends in a goddamn tragedy. The fate of Erebor may not be as directly important as that of the ring, but it's but it plays a key part in the northern realms' security so reclaiming it, and further defending it from, the forces of evil is of just as much geopolitical importance as say, Helm's Deep. The fact that book treats every other characters like mere set dressing in it's main character's "fun" adventure, that it breezes through harrowing situations and important world events with so little consideration that even the character that's supposed to matter can just shrug it off at the end so easily that frankly he seems like a sociopath, are not simply acceptable intrinsic traits of the story, they are FLAWS in it.
@johnsaporta4633
@johnsaporta4633 Жыл бұрын
I always felt Peter Jackson's Dwarves in the Hobbit movies were very Heavy Metal Rocker. And I did love the Dwarf shield wall assembly during the battle of the five armies: the look, the sound, and their lego brick modularity was a scream. For the sake of civility amd focus on your content, I am withholding obvious criticism on the movies themselves. I did love the dwarves, single note as they were.
@myrddinb
@myrddinb Жыл бұрын
I've just started watching a few of your videos and I just realized this one in the background on your bookshelf. You have a memorial edition of Dune which is my absolutely favored book of all time and I have one too.
@TransRoofKorean
@TransRoofKorean Жыл бұрын
Hmmm, I've got hundreds of different subscriptions, haven't really been watching anything Tolkien-related, but for some reason KZbin decided to recommend this video. It's always so strange when YT decides to bless people with recommendations... I figured this was gonna be a brand new channel paying to advertise, but nope, you've got quite a lot of videos out. I will definitely have to look around. Very nice.
@Jess_of_the_Shire
@Jess_of_the_Shire Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you found the channel, and I hope you find something here that you enjoy watching!
@inakilarrinaga7789
@inakilarrinaga7789 Жыл бұрын
I really like the idea for the last video on this series. Looking forward to it!!
@patron8597
@patron8597 9 ай бұрын
My biggest complaint is the bears length. Other than Gimli's dad, their beards are way too short, even the ones of the group that have a full beard. Though it's hard to say how much of that was a studio decision. What i really love about both LotR and the Hobbit is the influence on dwarven arms and architecture it had on fantasy media. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think they were the first that gave dwarves that "block" style, which just fits them so perfectly. While elves had their wavy style before, older depictions of dwarves usually just look like they are using generic western human gear.
@timmiller1
@timmiller1 Жыл бұрын
Whoa! Did that actor really just sing a B6?!
@annegrey6447
@annegrey6447 9 ай бұрын
If Thorin’s beard was meant to be singed off where was it before Smaug cuz I don’t remember it being any longer. 🤔 Also, does the behind the scenes say why Jackson decided to switch Balín & Thorin’s ages since he was the oldest in the book? At least I think so, but I haven’t read it in so long I could be mistaken.
@jasonbates2687
@jasonbates2687 Жыл бұрын
I don't find many interesting new channels but this is one of them, subbed.
@lauramathews3151
@lauramathews3151 Жыл бұрын
I prefer the art deco architecture we see in the dwarvish mountain kingdoms, over the art nouveau fashion aspects of the elves. The jewelry and accessories of both are on par in my opinion. But it's frustrating to me that overwhelmingly we see dwarves in armor.....humans, elves and hobbits we see in many facets of life. Although Hobbits had to borrow their armor... Also the scenery/locales of the elven kindoms are beautiful and I love how they are very interconnected with nature by blurring boundaries between inside and outside...
@drthmonkey42
@drthmonkey42 Жыл бұрын
His eyebrows were singed off by Smaug.
@robert49783
@robert49783 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for creating the video. I thoroughly enjoyed watching it.
@jayvansickle7607
@jayvansickle7607 Жыл бұрын
When the promo pictures of the dwarves in the Hobbit first came out…I literally thought it was a Klingon image. Specifically, Thorin.
@lukediehl1210
@lukediehl1210 7 ай бұрын
Wait, I knew John Rhys-Davies was the tallest member of the Fellowship, but he's only 6'1"? I'm taller than that. My worldview has just been shattered by the fact that I would tower over Aragorn...
@Elora445
@Elora445 Жыл бұрын
Aidan Turner's hotness caused almost all fics about Kíli being about how he is half elven. Sometimes Fíli too. While an interesting thought, it is far from canon. Don't mind it, buuuuut... They should have let him keep the beard. And oh my god, why have I never thought about Thorin missing his eyebrows???? Just why? I fully agree that the royal family should have looked a lot more dwarven. Will never accept why they chose to have them look less dwarven.
@paulboswell9026
@paulboswell9026 Жыл бұрын
Japanese chainmaille is INCREDIBLY flexible. Much more than European. Your information source is incorrect. It was used in the joints to hold armor plates together. There were no hauberks as it offers no protection against clubs.
@Quirderph
@Quirderph Жыл бұрын
For a lark, maybe you could review the costumes from the Swedish, Soviet and Finnish LOTR shows?
@misturfixit45
@misturfixit45 Ай бұрын
Hmm, I get that we're focusing on Tolkien on this channel, but I think it's unlikely the designers only used Tolkien as their inspiration. Sure, the runes resemble the style they settled on, but Dwarves have been portrayed in very similar style in work that predates Jackson, e.g. Dungeons and Dragons and Warhammer, and the designers would no doubt have been aware of that.
@thedarkdane7
@thedarkdane7 11 ай бұрын
Please, please, please do a video ranking all the Middle Earth costumes. I do not care if it is 4 hours long, I will watch it!
@brycejames7829
@brycejames7829 Жыл бұрын
no eyebrows is aggressive, its like a bald head, says "hit my unprotected eyes, goodluck"
@PleaseNThankYou
@PleaseNThankYou Жыл бұрын
This is sacrilege in my house. But you were right a few times so... thumbs up. (Please don't tell my grandkids, ok?🤣)
@nole8923
@nole8923 5 ай бұрын
Yah know, I’m fervently against tattoos and don’t have a single one on my body, but if I was included as one of the 9 fellowship characters I would agree to get the tattoo. It’s literally a badge of honor and no doubt the ladies would be impressed.
@cynthmcgpoet
@cynthmcgpoet Жыл бұрын
He was allergic to Latex? Story of my life, too.
@matthewbreytenbach4483
@matthewbreytenbach4483 Жыл бұрын
What I find kind of interesting is how the production leaned into the pop-culture style of Dwarven warriors when designing Dain's army. The sepulchral plate and huge weapons read more as something from Warcraft or Warhammer. While Tolkien's description is of lightly armoured, sensibly armed and highly mobile skirmishers. It was a bit disappointing that we didn't get to see the mesh hose and mattocks of the Iron Hills on display, but they still looked epic.
@Overlord99762
@Overlord99762 Жыл бұрын
The light armor makes sense for travelling dwarves, Dain's army was a throng armed and armored for war
@patron8597
@patron8597 9 ай бұрын
Are you really sure about that? I remember that there was even a line about the dwarven army being much more adapt than men at traveling in their heavy armor, but it's been years since I last read it.
@matthewbreytenbach4483
@matthewbreytenbach4483 9 ай бұрын
@@patron8597 The description of their armor is of chain shirts, iron mesh leggings, helms, small round shields, short swords and mattocks.
@beansnrice321
@beansnrice321 7 ай бұрын
Lol, the music during the tattoo.
@Deuwl
@Deuwl 7 ай бұрын
Gimli looked like a dwarf in the LoTR. In the hobbit movies, several of the dwarves looked human including Thorin
@virtualalias
@virtualalias Жыл бұрын
Weird that sexy was even a passing consideration for a film adaptation of a child's book about heroic dwarves. Where are all the sexy characters in UP? Is Wall-E sexy? ET? The original Jumanji?
@dismaspickman773
@dismaspickman773 2 ай бұрын
I have a solution: You don't need to differentiate the dwarves in large part... only Bombur, Thorin, Fili, Kili, Balin and Dwalin (and perhaps Dori, Bilbo's friend) have any need to be distinct whatsoever. EVERY Dwarf should have had a significant beard, none of them should have been bald (Dwarves always had beards, and were never bald according to Tolkien if I recall correctly). Give a verity of ornate belts and different colored hooded cloaks to Oin, Gloin, Ori, Nori, Bifur, and Bofur and have them be completely background characters. Of course, that wouldn't sell toys well... The only major character in that entire group should have been Thorin, with only slightly elevated roles for Bombur, Fili, Kili, Balin, Dwalin and perhaps Dori. Whilst remaking the LOTR movies would be folly, I hope someday a big production company will remake the Hobbit, and do it properly and with respect.
@albertbradfield1945
@albertbradfield1945 Жыл бұрын
Jess, it's cold underground, thus fur, on everything!
@kollibriterresonnenblume2314
@kollibriterresonnenblume2314 Жыл бұрын
Wow you made this topic super interesting. Great job!
@DaveVespa
@DaveVespa Жыл бұрын
Recently came across some of your vids. Really enjoying them. You know your stuff, and your enjoyment of the topics really comes through.
@pentegarn1
@pentegarn1 Жыл бұрын
When you said you liked the Bomber Barrel fighting scene...I almost couldn't hit like on this! But, you have eyes like a salamander....and they won me over I had to forgive you and like it.
@j.s.c.4355
@j.s.c.4355 Жыл бұрын
I’ve never noticed a lack of eyebrows on Thorin. In fact, I’d have said he had heavy brows, if you’d asked me and I’d answered from memory. Side note: the explanation of his short beard fails because we saw him in the scene in which the dragon attacked, and he had the same beard.
@BlackHoleForge
@BlackHoleForge Жыл бұрын
28:25 in my headcanon, he got too close to a dragon and burned off his eyebrows.
@notben7555
@notben7555 Жыл бұрын
Why do ppl get upset that the hobbit movies are silly, while at the same time acknowledging it’s a story meant for children💀
@davidfletcher6703
@davidfletcher6703 3 ай бұрын
Don't get me wrong, Richard Armitage is a great actor, but too be honest, I think he was too edgy for Thorin, he would have done a better job as Bard the Bowman, I'm not saying Luke Evans didnt do a good job, but I didn't really get the Bard vibe from him
@Mrs.Rachel.C_5th_grade
@Mrs.Rachel.C_5th_grade 7 ай бұрын
Bifur is their cousin, not brother I loved the costumes, except the lack of beards. I wish they had kept the colored hoods from the books. It would have helped
@DominikJaniec
@DominikJaniec Жыл бұрын
great story!
@nole8923
@nole8923 5 ай бұрын
Peter Jackson has proven himself the only director/producer worthy of portraying anything Tolkien. That includes everything including costumes. This especially rings true when considering the butchering and abominations Amazon has done. A lot of you Tolkien purests will complain about Peter Jackson, but he’s about the best we’re going to get relatively speaking.
@pissedoffhobbit974
@pissedoffhobbit974 6 ай бұрын
If you want to see good dwarves in a movie, watch, Snow White, and the Huntsman. Those dwarves were what Peter Jackson should have went for.
@BanazirGalpsi1968
@BanazirGalpsi1968 Жыл бұрын
I tend to think killi and fili are identical twins
@carlcramer9269
@carlcramer9269 2 ай бұрын
One of the things that irked me about the Lord of the Rings movies was turning Gimli into a comedic character. Gnomes are comedic (and Disney dwarfs are gnomes by today's nomenclature), dwarfs are not.
@MrSneaksful
@MrSneaksful Жыл бұрын
Totally agree, love your vids. I feel with the 3 movies alone, is enough for us to figure out the different dwarves, didnt need the over the top visuals and actions of the dwarves which was never like Tolkiens work. Again, movie makers making Tolkiens work however they want.....why cant anyone just make a movie as the book is, I dont care about the people saying "it cant be made into a movie" blah blah. Tolkiens books were/are so amazing theyve sold more than the Bible and in every language of the world, so its a successful book, why not just try to copy that? Or make your own pos movie....sigh
@bemasaberwyn55
@bemasaberwyn55 Жыл бұрын
I think it's funny when you're describing Nori that you mentioned Ed Sheeran lyrics which given the fact that Ed Sheeran sang on one of the soundtracks because I believe it was Jackson's daughter loves Ed Sheeran I do find that rather amusing. I do want to play a bit of Devil's Advocate though due to many people commenting about how they took the focus off of Bilbo. After my own experience reading the books I always personally felt that The Hobbit was really 3 stories. Open hook Special Care in the appendices of Return of the King two more fully explore the history of Middle-earth um what she would then expand upon again with the silmarillion. But I remember thinking to myself how cool would it be to see stuff like where Gandalf went and his dealings with the white Council during the events of The Hobbit. Which brings me back to my comment about it being 3 stories. Story 1 is obviously Bilbo's Journey and how he finds a magic ring which will become more important down the road. Story 2 is Thorin reclaiming what they lost to Smaug. Story 3 is the beginning to a 60 plus year build up that will lead to the destruction of Mordor. In the moment that I heard that Guillermo del Toro was looking at doing a film adaptation of The Hobbit given the trend at the time to split books into multiple movies in order to draw out the story I figured that Warner Media would not shy away from that given the returns on superhero films that they were producing were far short of what marvel was doing at the time( also other attempts to create a big budget novel based tentpole series was proving to be harder than it looked given the fact that production of the His Dark Materials trilogy ended up blowing up in their faces). So I understand why the studio mandated an extension of the story and given that they had the rights to the appendices in Return of the King it stands to reason that they would have included the expansion of Gandalf's role. Whether or not this was successful is Up For Debate. But I have to applaud the attempt especially once Jackson was brought in when Del Toro left
@secretsquirrel726
@secretsquirrel726 7 ай бұрын
You do know that the dwarves and Gandalf are all named after the Aesir dwarves in one of the Eddas?
@Frili7
@Frili7 Жыл бұрын
Anyone else was laugh so hard on that Elijah Wood meme, or just me? XD
@leafpratt
@leafpratt Жыл бұрын
Just looks like Futhark
@sticy5399
@sticy5399 7 ай бұрын
Always have been team Dwarf over team Elves.
@alejalalita
@alejalalita Жыл бұрын
It was incredibly interesting to watch this video and agree so very little with you, haha
@khartog01
@khartog01 7 ай бұрын
A friend of mine told me the lack of beard gave them a human look, helped them better talk with other humans for Trading to go easy. But I never liked that explanation
@kathleenhensley5951
@kathleenhensley5951 Жыл бұрын
I Liked the knitting. I think i recognize the patterns, very simple work, really... I suspect that the dwarves would use Celtic patterns in their knitting? I've always thought there was a hint of Scottish influence in Peter Jackson's Dwarves, which makes sense, I suppose.
@totallynuts7595
@totallynuts7595 8 ай бұрын
You know, aside from Balin, Bofur is the only other dwarf I liked from the supporting cast. That's because of the *single* good scene he gets with Bilbo, before Goblin Town. It's well acted, it characterises Bofur, it's just good scene of characters talking, which two of these movies sorely lack. Balin is luckier, his scenes do reinforce his place as an advisor, almost comes across as a very well experienced merchant: he is the one who hands Bilbo the paperwork, he negotiates with Bard, he tells Thorin off for not coming to an agreement with Thranduil... At the same time he is the only one that represents an aspect of dwarvish society that isn't "warriors" (Bombur, Bofur, Oin, Gloin, Ori and Dori don't represent anything as far as I am aware, and Nori, Bifur, Fili, Kili, Dwalin and Thorin are the warriors) I do have to say, I hated Desolation and Five Armies so much when I first saw them that now if I ever feel like watching "The Hobbit" I go for one of the fan edits, so there may be scenes I don't know about or have forgotten.
@Utaeru
@Utaeru 8 ай бұрын
Nori and Bifur aren't warriors... Gloin is likely to be one though. Bifur, Bofur & Bombur represent the "working class" of the dwarven culture, they are tinkers and toymakers. Oin's a healer, Nori's a shady thief, Dori and Nori are on the sophisticated side. Balin and Dwalin are the old warriors who have known the golden age of Erebor, Fili and Kili are the young ones who are told about it. There you have it :)
@gabrielblanchard3921
@gabrielblanchard3921 Жыл бұрын
[me, going about my day, watching a cool video about costumes] man, this is interesting [Jess, Part Time Hobbit, seeking revenge upon mankind for some reason] "Dwalin milk" [me, lying stricken upon the scorched earth, gasping] OUT, OUT, BRIEF CANDLE, LIFE'S BUT A WALKING SHADOW, A TALE TOLD BY AN IDIOT
@Jess_of_the_Shire
@Jess_of_the_Shire Жыл бұрын
I created this channel specifically to bestow my cursed knowledge on others :)
@ryanwelch1321
@ryanwelch1321 6 ай бұрын
That was FUN! 🎉
@scottjackson1420
@scottjackson1420 4 ай бұрын
I had to say it was bothersome when I watched the Hobbit and saw Kili as ... a man. Not a dwarf at all. It was baffling. And distracting. And even annoying. I figured that it had something to do with the absurd "romance" with the Mirkwood elf. Fili and Thorin were almost as bad. They were men, not dwarves. And I agree with you about something else, Jess. As the royal family, those three should have been the dwarviest of the dwarves in their appearance.
@АнтонОрлов-я1ъ
@АнтонОрлов-я1ъ Жыл бұрын
I actually watched only about a half of the first film of "The Hobbit" trilogy, so generally not a fan of the movie at all, but dwarves' costumes specifically were also extrimly unsatisfying. The main problems I see in them (in addition to ones mentioned in the video): 1. Thorin looks like Aragorn's copycat to me. He should look old and grumpy (and definitely not hot). Also, where is his golden chain? It is important to the plot! 2. Dwarves should look the same to Bilbo (and to the audience) in the beginning, that's the point! They are foreigners to hobbits, with strange customs and foreign names and beards. Bilbo (and the audience) should learn to distinguish them during the story, mostly by their actions, not their looks. 3. The initial warrior-like (or at least adventurer-like) appearence of the dwarves ruins the moment, when they change their cloacks and hoods to armour and helmets before the battle. This shouldn't look like "upgrade", but like complete transformation from (mostly) comic characters to legendary heroes.
@paulkelly2701
@paulkelly2701 Жыл бұрын
Apropos of nothing but the editing style reminds me of Sydney Watson.
@tianahorsey-daydreamer8962
@tianahorsey-daydreamer8962 Жыл бұрын
The idea of being sprayed in the face by talcum powder, much less talcum powder mixed with sweat, is so absolutely terrifying to me! Find something else guys, cuz you're not coming anywhere near me with that talcum! I will say, the man is dedicated to his craft. Editing to add, those people are dedicated to their craft. I was thinking about the actor, but just remember that the person getting sprayed wasn't the actor. It was one of the aids.
@Bobbybillybillbob
@Bobbybillybillbob Жыл бұрын
Kili's love story made me hate his characters... also, Kili should of had a beard and a Dwarven nose
@sonicfreak04
@sonicfreak04 7 ай бұрын
dwarves are awesome!
@scottfitzpatrick1939
@scottfitzpatrick1939 Жыл бұрын
I felt the dwarves in the hobbit movie were disastrously ridiculous. I know its basically a kids story but the goofiness of the dwarves went beyond suspension of disbelief and stood in contrast to the violence of the battle scenes. It was a poor creative choice to make the dwarves looks so stupid.
@DeepCFisher
@DeepCFisher 4 ай бұрын
I dont imagine told you'll ever see this Jess, but you are the most beautiful woman i think I've ever seen. Beyond that you make really incredible videos
@GGMeseeks
@GGMeseeks Жыл бұрын
someone bought the DVDs
@Ninisaurus2
@Ninisaurus2 Жыл бұрын
Completely off topic but your hair looks amazing! I don't know if you've ever considered doing hair tutorials but I would love to know how you styled yours :)
@dianewood2430
@dianewood2430 8 ай бұрын
Not sure 🤔 if this is the correct video, but I don’t think 💭 that Ryse Davis was the tallest. I believe Christoper Lee was 6’ 3”. A bit taller
@DutchDread
@DutchDread Жыл бұрын
Imo, fili is hotter than kili.
@SuperEohippus
@SuperEohippus 5 ай бұрын
I wonder how do the female dwarves look.
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