WHY demolish iconic football stadiums? | The story of San Siro

[@michaeluzoho5838]

San Siro is a cathedral of football. I'm amazed it's gonna get smashed down. For me, architecture wise, it's amazing, it's still astounding.

[@jcngokai-76]

Milan needs to sell San Siro to the clubs now and let them sorted out

[@michaeluzoho5838]

@@jcngokai-76 You're right, that's what I thought. The city of Milan should sell the club to Inter and AC Milan.

[@NonFlyiingDutchman]

I agree, and having been there it's an amazing place to watch football. The facilities however are appalling! there's almost nowhere to buy food and drink inside the stadium, but that's just as well as the toilets are gross! Also no facilities for corporate boxes etc so they're going to missing out on a lot of revenue

[@michaeluzoho5838]

@@NonFlyiingDutchman That's true, that's why the city of Milan should sell the stadium rights to Milan and Inter.

[@Fringes007]

Looks nice but it's a stone age neolithic piece of trash

[@gts1300]

I think the best solution would be to emulate what Real Madrid, Barcelona, Liverpool and Dortmund have done with their stadiums: renovate and modernize whilst giving both clubs ownership of San Siro, following the Metlife Stadium model. It's not impossible. Even though it might get tricky, but it's been done before and should be done with this icon of Italian football.

[@BoliveiraNTPW]

It would even cheaper to do that than build a new stadium , but both clubs want their own stadium, and probably the city is trying to make some big money deals that involve destroying the stadium to build something else .

[@carlobrotto7132]

Out of 4 major stadiums you mentioned, only Anfield Road can worthly be aside of San Siro x being even more aged. Nou Camp and Westfalion are just newcomers in comparison and dont have same glorious background history. The key point , or I should say the key problem, is that both teams' owners rejected any modernizing solution x they want to have their own stadium and just do business by their will.

[@yourface4248]

modernization is not the problem, it is ownership and revenue

[@bman977]

The issue is the structure of tge stadium has reached the end of it life span it just too late

[@yannick245]

​@@carlobrotto7132 But as you can see in this clip. The San Siro of today has nothing to do with the historical San Siro. It was basically completely re-build for the 1990 World Cup. Only the pitch is remained at the same spot. Why shouldn't this be done again, instead of building the stadium at a different place.

[@memus3852]

Man, I love these videos... As a Juve fan, I personally would be saddened to see the Stadium at San Siro demolished. That ambient, the noise, the majesty... is just unreplaceable. I hope both clubs and the Comune find a way to have the grounds repaired and modernized without destroying them.

[@cipley]

That doesn't solve the problem that the Milan clubs have. They can't fully generate revenue from gates. They NEED their own stadium to survive; irrespective of the existence of San Siro. That being said, I would be saddened as well. I would want to visit them before it got demolished. It's become a part of a pilgrimage as a football fans, especially Milanista

[@memus3852]

@@cipley That is absolutely true. In fact, building a new Stadium with a similar capacity (or with 2/3, even 1/2 the capacity) may also leave the Meazza without use... Other than concert venue, or any game that Gli Azzurri may play there. The Comune I believe is not open to sell the San Siro, besides the fact that the mere idea of buying a Cathedral-sized Stadium may be ludacris, even for both Teams combined. I remember Juventus bought the Delle Alpi in the early 2000's, and then built the Juventus Stadium, but it was a newer ground, built for Italia 90. San Siro is almost 100 years old... Both clubs could lease the grounds for 50 years, pay for the renovation of it's structure and modernize the old Scala del Calcio, perhaps?

[@cipley]

@@memus3852 IIRC that option has already been exercised, but the municipality was unable to be decisive, dragging the discussion for far too long. Milan had enough and decided to build a new stadium, leaving San Siro. idk about Inter but I think they are heading the same direction. I don't think San Siro has to be demolished by the time Milan teams have their own stadiums; at the very least, it will still be under city of Milan administration. Whether to conserve/renovate or to raze is not the Milan clubs' decision, but the city government.

[@fernando7517]

Do not worry the new ones will be even better.

[@bryancaulfield2066]

As a United fan it would be awful to see the San Siro torn down. I grew up watching football Italia in the 90s and this is up there with the most iconic stadiums in the world. They are going to try and do the same to Old Trafford in the next few years, grounds with so much history need to be modernised not replaced. Madrid have nailed this concept with the Bernabau.

[@Bubajumba]

Clubs have been trying for years, unfortunately with no luck. Its come to the point where they have no other option but to leave the city all together

[@peterlpool1387]

Old Trafford has history but it’s had its day. Look at Bayern Munich.

[@Brockza]

I can't believe old Trafford is considered old. I remember seeing on TV the renovation done in the 90s.

[@rjpaws]

Sadly it's impossible to create leg room at OT....one of the major issues with the stadium. United should follow the Spurs lead and build right next to OT, keeping the old stadium open in the mean time. Sadly, under the Glazers this won't happen so expect a successful Qatari bid.

[@rh81454]

Well that's easy for you to be nostalgic about an old ass stadium when you have so much wealth in the EPL. Madrid simply got lucky because of the location of it that they had no other choice but to keep/renovate it. Barca will lose millions of euros next season playing out of the nou camp, much of their sponsors will not be even advertising due to the limited way to do so in the next year's field. Europeans have to stop glorifying old shit and adapt to new ideas that make money. Serie A makes shit for money and the competition has resulted in Juventus winning it non stop until this year with Napoli.

[@anthonym8250]

If there is one thing I love most about Italians, it is their love for the architecture that surrounds them and them and the passion to preserve it.

[@mwade6982]

This was a bucket list stadium for me. I managed to watch my team - Spurs - play their against AC in February. Such an amazing place. Proper football stadium and great atmosphere.

[@6ch6ris6]

this is on the bucket list for any football fan :D

[@thedon897]

Why? It looks like an oil rig💀

[@NazriB]

Lies again? SAF SPF Institute College

[@Zefroniac]

no you didnt

[@gordon1545]

San Siro is the greatest piece of football architecture ever built. I've been to all of Europe's pre-eminent stadiums and this is head and shoulders above them all. When you first visit it takes your breath away. Pulling it down would be like when New York pulled down Penn Station. It would be an act of vandalism that would leave a stain on the reputation of the city for generations. Comparing it to places like the old Wembley is pure ignorance. Apart from the main stand's facade hat wasn't a special building, it was only special because of the memories. It had terrible sightlines and was built for standing - it was never suitable to convert to all-seated. San Siro is a fantastic place to watch a game of football. Refurbish it, add hospitality boxes, donate the stadium to the clubs on the condition that they stay and renovate it, but for God's sake recognise and respect the grandeur and class of what you've got.

[@jpmtlhead39]

San Siro is an Awesome Beautiful Stadium,but Wembley is just on another level.

[@Lindi82]

I ( Bayern season ticket since 2001 ) love San Siro more than any other stadium. What a pleasure it was to go there in September, my 14th time in this fantastic stadium. Love it so much. Keep your hands off !

[@vesnatomcik-pi9wi]

That stadium is amaizing and just need to restyle and refresh. San siro never died!

[@manuel7102]

The problem is: the people you interviewed who are against the new stadium would've been also against a big renovation of San Siro because it would've "lost its soul". That's also one of the reasons why the city can't just sell it to the clubs and let them renovate it: it would be unpopular

[@muhammadmaimaje6178]

Absolutely. Major renovations or selling it, is not on the table. Bureaucracy is preventing the clubs from building new ones. People in the comments section should understand this

[@InfinteIdeas]

The future is now, it's evolve or die

[@XBarajasX]

These are old people that obvioisly will stay attached to the old thing, can't expect them to update to new trends. Italy is old, universaly speaking

[@TheBomber15]

This is it, and you know that it is in desperate need of those renovations. I went to a Milan match (vs Atalanta) last month, and it is the most tired and poorly facilitated top-flight stadium I’ve ever been to within the top 7 major leagues in Europe. It’s in desperate need of *something*, but the older generation hold it back.

[@rhysioeren3203]

Well, none of them were asked that question. And probably it is out of the question, the stadium needs to change to be up with the task without loosing its identity. That is the challenge and the problem that needs a solution. I resist myself to think the Italians don't have a solution for that.

[@tonynacion]

The Milan Derby in a UCL semi-final at the San Siro , the year before the stadium is demolished. What a fitting ending for such an iconic ground Milanista Last Dance

[@SI-cd7xs]

its not a fitting ending. a parasite american venture capitalists want to destroy the most legendary stadium in the world for a quick flip, nothing more. ac milan will not benefit from a new stadium, have tottenham or arsenal?

[@independentthinker8592]

I’ve always wanted to go to the San Siro since I saw that picture of matterazzi and rui costa photo as a kid. This doc made me sad and I really want to before it’s demolished. Great doc!

[@oldskoolmusicnostalgia]

Absolutely love this stadium, the most iconic for me in Italy and I'm hoping to visit it before demolition. However in its current state of mismanagement by the city council there is no way Inter and AC Milan can afford to stay there or wait on the council to take a decision. Much of the nostalgia is misguided as well, this is the reality unless the Milan city council wants to get serious and stop fooling around. Bayern Munich moved from the Olympiastadion which was just as iconic, nobody even recalls it these days. Bayern wouldn't be as healthy financially if it was still in that stadium or renting from a town council. Ajax and Arsenal are other teams that left behind their old homes.

[@jack1906]

Why doesn't Milan lease the stadium to the two teams for 99 years and work together with them to renovate the stadium. It's been not like it hasn't been changed over the years. I understand the stadium is iconic and part of the soul of the city but that guy at the end opposing the plans also didn't understand that part of what made it great was the teams and fans and the amazing football events that happens there. Without the people it's just an empty hunk of concrete.

[@ricardas16]

problem is the city and the guys like that who don't want it to be renovated or rebuilt completely. city gets it's millions from the clubs and concerts and other events. and politicians just being politicians, aka world famous Italian bureaucracy.

[@oldskoolmusicnostalgia]

The city wants the clubs to pay it for playing there but doesn't want to spend a penny on maintenance or upgrades. People need to stop seeing this as greed on the part of AC or Inter, they are not being left with much choice here.

[@erics7219]

i think that last guy understand it lol, he said its historical, its already include those reasons

[@jack1906]

I don't see it as greed by the club's. I understand that politicans everywhere are useless especially about sporting matters. I did mean Milan the city in my original comment not the club. After all the city benefits from people coming to watch matches and to see the stadium. It's ridiculous not to put some money into renovating the stadium.

[@96wtfomg]

I have had the luck of going to San Siro several times since I lived in Milan and still visit often. The Stadium is great and deserves its legendary status, but it has gotten a little to old. It needs a renovation at least

[@6ch6ris6]

if you think of a football stadium, chance is one of the first things coming to your mind will be a picture of the san siro. everyone involved should do anything they can to keep the san siro alive. not just for AC and Inter but football in general. as a football fan from germany, even i would feel like losing part of my identity without this stadium.

[@pedrocavaco3376]

if the milan municipality want to keep their beloved stadium, then they should make concessions for the football teams, undergo renovations in the stadium... having renovations in the stadium isn't giving in to corporate demands, it is to give fans more comfort and a better matchday experience... they could begin by renovate the toilets, the seating doesn't seem to be in a fantastic state too. I wish the clubs and the city get to an arrangement where this stadium gets to live on and the fans are granted renovations for a better and more comfortable matchday experience

[@aaryyan2k]

This is the best looking stadium in Europe sad that its being torn down.

[@LatoLato66]

But the club need money not fake wise comment from ex major

[@marcoroberts9462]

@@rrsharizam thats like saying to tear down the collosseum because its old

[@Monaleenian]

@@rrsharizam So what do you think is the best course of action? Have AC Milan and Inter build new stadia of their own and keep the San Siro around as a museum until everyone who attended a match there has died, after which time it can be demolished??

[@alessiovalentini4401]

​@@marcoroberts9462The colosseum is the most important symbol of civilization in history, San Siro is a stadium that limits the growth of Serie A, AC Milan and Inter Milan and is closer to being an echo monster than the colosseum. San Siro is not Milan or Inter, 2 of the most important teams in history can't afford to pay the rent on a stadium that is falling apart

[@mustaviarka968]

​@@marcoroberts9462 You don’t see gladiators fighting with lions in the colosseum no more. If it wasn’t like that they would have torn it down to build a new one.

[@MrAsimomytis]

San Siro is an icon of a stadium. I have climbed the stairs and the feeling is breathtaking. Nothing like a cold Milanese night with Pizza in Pizza OK in neighbouring Marghera pizzeria followed by an amazing European Match

[@Valbu]

San Siro was built in the 1920s, renewed in the 60s and then again in 1989/90. It’s old and at a breaking point. And as a person who lived in Milan and used to going to every match of A.C. Milan, I can say without doubt that it needs to be demolished to the ground and built again from scratch.

[@hebjdhdhdbbshshshshs9119]

Football getting privatized has been one of the worst changes it hss seen in its history. Football used to be for and by the people. Nowadays its only about business

[@jaredwildbill911]

when watching this made me realize.....that the super league is gonna happen regardless.

[@EuroGuy85]

No matter what happens, I'm glad I got the chance to watch a game there. It was a decade ago. Sat three rows behind the net in curva sud! Abbiatti played that game, Balo scored a PK against Palermo. I hope they do it justice whether they tear it down or rejuvenate it! Got to visit the stadium three days before the game and sat on Abbiatti's seat in the locker room.

[@ssjr3604]

Was lucky enough to visit this great stadium last year. got to visit travelling on the milanese metro and go through the San siro stop great experience.

[@lwandomadikizela2213]

San Siro is the heartbeat of Milan. Both Milan clubs won league titles and Champions league titles and one of the biggest cathedral in Europe and the world. Unfortunately, both Milan clubs and most Serie A clubs bar Juventus, Atalanta and Udinese play in stadium that are owned by the City Council. Expanding and refurbishment of the San Siro requires permission from the City Council and even some of the ticket sales goes to the City Council instead of all the ticket sales goes to both Milan clubs. Hence why both Milan clubs would rather build their own stadiums than to play at the San Siro forever.

[@electricarrow8903]

isn’t it just a problem with football in general that has become way too much about money. this wouldn’t be a problem if clubs like manchester city were being bought by massive oil giants that had the money for everything.

[@ragnarjakobsen7722]

I went and watched the Milan classico in 2017.. amazing experience.. amazing stadium! We had a beautiful time in the city ❤ Please don't tear it down 😢 Keep your heritage and traditions 💪

[@89__tirtharajpati69]

Watching a Milan derby in San Siro is my childhood dream..I San Siro is really demolished I would be heartbroken

[@titorobot2711]

4:19 funny thing both Flamengo and Boca are thinking about demolishing it’s stadiums. And Flamengo’s reason to do so is pretty much the same as Inter and Milan’s.

[@justsamoo3480]

Boca just wants to renovate it. Not demolish it entirely

[@johnbakker4828]

Flamengo doesn't have it's own stadium. They usually play in the Maracanã, but on occasion they will even play home games in Manaus, thousands of miles from Rio, in the middle of the Amazon. They are the most popular club in Brazil, so they will usually fill the stadium, but it's a crazy concept. They also have an old ground near the rich neigborhoods of Leblon and Ipanema, but it's old and run down, with only one stand that holds 5,000 people. Currently the football parts of that complex aren't used much, but there are other indoor sports and swimming pools that are used by Flamengo's other athletes (swimming, basketball, etc.), mostly for training. It's also where the club's administration is based. Demolishing all that and building a full size stadium in that part of the city is out of the question. It's been used as a football training ground in the past before they moved to a modern complex on the outskirts of the city.

[@Fritha71]

Would be like tearing down the Colosseum. Hopefully sense prevails! Having said that, it has always amazed me that Inter and AC Milan share a common stadium, it's kind of rare among giant clubs and yet they have done so for a hundred years!

[@dirtyace1668]

This is one of the great coliseums of football. It would be criminal to tear it down. Milan and inter should be given a chance to buy it and renovate it.

[@jpmtlhead39]

As a Die Hard football fan,ive been in all major football stadiums in Europe. And the San Siro is a Magnificent Beautiful stadium. But what i dont understand how a country where Football is so Huge and 80% of the stadiums are so old and poorly maintained.

[@thedon897]

1:42 this guy put it PERFECTLY💯💯

[@rinkoojha7378]

San Siro is literally so iconic that I'm planning a trip all the way to Milan to watch a game before it gets demolished. It'll be sad to see such a great stadium go

[@dpause10]

I am glad the movement to preserve the San Siro is gaining momentum. I have been following the debate for at least a couple of years already and I must say it's absolutely heartbreaking to hear that such an iconic building of undeniable public importance is in danger of getting demolished. What's even more astounding is that stakeholders (the 2 clubs) drive this narrative of economic hardship when there is this enormous brand potential of the San Siro that lies entirely untapped. It's mind boggling. You simply cannot build the kind of brand recognition or the embedded history and prestige that these older stadiums like the San Siro or Old Trafford or even a place like Wrigley Filed or Madison Square Garden have. Yeah you can hire great architects to build you new stadium like we just saw in Qatar or you see pop up all over North America and Europe. But the truth is once you are inside any of those stadiums, you completely lose any sense of place because they all look more or less the same. The Emirates stadium, the etihad stadium, tottenham's new pitch. They look pretty much identical at pitch level and frankly they are garbage from the perspective of iconic design or brand recognition.

[@adamtelford640]

The San siro is crumbling and looks horrible inside and the city council don't care and plus inter and ac don't have a say in season ticket sales which go to the city council

[@alessiovalentini4401]

San Siro doesn't belong to Milan or Inter, they pay the rent to the municipality to play in a stadium built when Mussolini was still there hahah. Its existence is the biggest limit between Milan and Inter with the other big Europeans

[@dpause10]

@@adamtelford640 It's quite normal for an almost 35 year old building to need some TLC. Let's hope wiser attitudes will prevail.

[@periklaskyriakidis6064]

First Highbury, Delle Alpi, then Gerland, White Hart Lane and Vicente Calderon, now San Siro, it's sad to see historic football venues being extingushed forever 😭😭😭

[@IlManaka]

For me this San Siro/ Giuseppe Meazza is the true temple of football, one of the last beautiful classic and inconic grounds.

[@SanTM]

This is a great film showing both sides of the argument. San Siro is an icon of world football. It's one of the rare stadiums that in our lifetimes can host two Champions League Quarter Final legs and four Semi Final legs. It's a relatively modern stadium in terms of aesthetic looks, the stands are right on top of the pitch unlike Stadio Diego Maradona or Olimpico. But it's also costing two of world football's biggest club's money. Tens of millions of profit that they cannot ever receive just because they can't own it or afford to own it. I think an element of what would make everyone happy is to lease it to the two clubs, give them both their own halves of the stadium with each curva being theirs and let them give it a full on renovation like Bernabeu and Camp Nou. Let them lease or rent out food and merchant space outside the stadium or make a concourse that is safe for families away from ultras like Juventus have done. This isn't the first time we've read about how Italian bureaucracy holds back football teams from maximising their money earned. If you love your city's clubs, give them the stadium. Or at the very least let them maximise profits there for a few season and then let them leave with the money to build their own stadium somewhere else. Eventually both will raise the funds and they will go elsewhere, and San Siro like the man says is an empty behemoth wasting city resources with no tenants.

[@jh_unterwegs]

Save the San Siro! Save the history and legacy of this iconic ground, save the soul of this city! If I think of the city of milan I don't think of the Duomo or the Viktor Emanuel Passage, the first thing that comes in my mind is this cathedral of football. It the most impressive and stunning stadium that I ever visited. I'm so pissed of of all the boring, soulless and modern grounds around the world that were build in the last 20 years. Save the icons, starting with this one and save the San Siro!

[@alessiovalentini4401]

People who think like you are the reason why Italian football cannot reach the Premier League. It's sad that Italy is the only country where people don't want it to evolve and modernize and therefore prefer Milan and Inter to pay rent on a stadium built before WW2 rather than letting them build their own stadium like all the bigs😢

[@jh_unterwegs]

​@@alessiovalentini4401 For me personally, successful football is not so important. Football means home, identity and tradition to me, these things mean far more to me than any trophy ever could. In this case, the San Siro gives the Milan clubs an identity and a profile and is a huge part of there legacy. Sure, Juve has been much more successful in recent years, but in my eyes "the club" is now just a soulless branding construct. This is the price you must be willing to pay I guess...

[@ianh3366]

Milan derby '03 (3-2 in the snow) was the best atmosphere I've ever experienced by a mile

[@depekthegreat359]

Its saddening to see that the San Siro Stadium getting demolished but I think both of the respective Milan clubs would try to save the stadium or build a new stadium for either of them to be the permanent owners ever,good friends!!!🙏

[@online_soup]

I feel a compromise could easily be made. Build a new stadium but have its outside architecture emulate the old San Siro. I understand that many fans will miss the old ground but if they do a good job of fusing modernity and history I think it can be great for all parties.

[@polyptyp9925]

Crazy that its almost 100 Years old, looks so modern and futuristic somehow...

[@PHDiaz-vv7yo]

Great vid. Ok, here’s my thoughts on this- The new Milan stadium Cathedrale is beautiful but it has a capacity of 60k. Does it need to exceed to the 80k San Siro holds on a regular basis? Could Milan council retain the rights to the stadium , assist with necessary upgrades eg toilets in Curva Sud but sell a portion of the middle tier to the clubs. Then it’s up to the clubs on how they use that tier/ redevelop it for corporate sponsorship? I’d love the San Siro to be retained but surely it’s in the city’s interest to enable some freedoms for corporate sponsorship? Otherwise the clubs will move to cheaper land but still retain the names of Inter and Milan. And I still need to visit the San Siro

[@jonasjacobsen9702]

I hope they never tear down the San Siro. It's such an iconic stadium.

[@alessiovalentini4401]

People who think like you are the reason why Italian football cannot reach the Premier League. It's sad that Italy is the only country where people don't want it to evolve and modernize and therefore prefer Milan and Inter to pay rent on a stadium built before WW2 rather than letting them build their own stadium like all the bigs😢

[@GrandeScorpio]

For me, this is THE most beautiful stadium in the world. I support Italy, I am a fan of Lazio, but San Siro is without a doubt #1. I can't image that they would really tear it down. Or that both clubs would leave.

[@arsenal10141014]

Iconic. But terrible inside… crumbling. Dated.

[@markusz4447]

It's an architectural Icon with many unique elements and it should be protected. That said the argument that the clubs need a new ground is very valid and they should pursue it. The dilemma is: if the clubs leave, the stadium will put a serious strain on the citied budget and it will suffer from a lack of investment. Beyond a few concerts per year and perhaps a museum or something I can't see a good use for it... so the stadium is pretty much doomed. Also the land around it is pretty underused and could need some serious development

[@Evemeister12]

Even if the football clubs leave, the stadium should stay on as a major concert venue.

[@ASuwan22]

It’s historic and beautiful. But you have to see it in person to realise it needs a lot of work.

[@ama6487]

What this video didn't want to highlight is the stadium is literally crumbling away, there are sections have been closed down for security reasons for years. If they don't demolish it sooner or later the stadium will be demolished by crowds jumping up and down

[@inst4rmin.x4_onYT]

As iconic and beloved the San Siro is, as important to Milan and its history and identity.. It is now too old for such big clubs.. They have to replace it.. My hope would just be that the new stadium will pay hommage to the unique architectural features of the original San Siro 🙏🏻

[@jetorixjones]

Tottenham fans hate that their club is run by people that care only about the bottom line and nothing about on pitch success. I don't think any fanbase really wants their club headed in that direction. I don't see why the clubs and the municipality could not come up with a plan to renovate and modernize while preserving San Siro. It would be a tragedy to lose a stadium with such history.

[@RevStickleback]

Like so many Italian stadiums, it looks good from a distance, but is a dump up close. It is a shame they couldn't renovate it, but the municipality wouldn't do it, because there's little incentive for them to do so, and the clubs wouldn't as they don't own the place. And its design would make doing so difficult. Knocking it down would still seem a shame, but it would cost a fortune to maintain, and bring in no income. Keeping it as an abandoned ruin would be even worse.

[@CamiloNavajas]

This vieo and the storia of san siro is unica,still i dream to assit a milano derby in san siro.

[@humor1095]

The San Siro hosted the highest attended match at Italia 90, West Germany v Yugoslavia 👌👌👌

[@TravelTheCraftyLife]

The older generation in Italy never let go.. it’s romantic but it’ll bring Milan and inter into the ground unfortunately. Milan and inter needs two separate stadiums for the best not just for Milan and inter but for Italian football itself.

[@thetimelapseguy8]

Why can't they just build one new stadium and have the san siro as the other

[@TravelTheCraftyLife]

@@thetimelapseguy8 San Siro is nearly a hundred years old and it can’t be updated anymore to today’s and future standards .. it’s not a modern stadium and it doesn’t belong to Milan or inter unfortunately. It belongs to the city of Milan.

[@joabefajardo3835]

@@TravelTheCraftyLife that´s the problem...the clubs can´t do much because isn´t ''their'' Stadium...

[@sebastianlukaj88]

Been there, when I entered I had tears of emotion.

[@GD-rd6ig]

I feel your pain. I’ve spent a number of evenings in San Siro. But once MY Yankee Stadium was torn down…😢

[@Guizambaldi]

That is the future of Maracanã as well. After the World Cup, the reforms imposed by FIFA made it a very expensive stadium to operate. Flamengo has become a rich club, and is considering building its own stadium. The other team playing there, Fluminense, has a smaller support, and is not able to maintain it by themselves. They will end up moving somewhere else too. Since the real estate of Maracanã is a much valued one in a good neighborhood, combined with the high costs of operation for just a few games, it will most definitely be demolished. I'm a Flamengo fan and I deeply opose the move to a new stadium, but I'm on the minority. Maybe 5% of supporters are with me.

[@superninja252]

Maracanã is already a stadium on heritage list, it cant be demolished anymore

[@Guizambaldi]

@@superninja252 What is the state of Rio supposed to do with it without anyone to play, though? The cost of maintaining the heritage for nothing will be too large for taxpayers.

[@blaquenguni9249]

Brazilian football has had a long and sad death , the destruction of the Maracana will the be final death stroke

[@matmcd]

​@@blaquenguni9249 you're wrong, brazilian clubs are on the rise, they dominate south america, they play in better stadiuns than the average italian and spanish clubs and they are forming a league in the shape of Bundesliga and Premier League.

[@matmcd]

The problem with Maracanã is that the city won't lease it to the clubs as if it was theirs for decades, sonthey can't explore it economically to the maximum, but it is today a much better stadium than San Siro is

[@smithswoodrookie]

I attended the recent Milan derby a couple of weeks ago. The San Siro is a historic stadium with amazing character & charm. It would be a huge loss to the fabric of the game. Forza Milan!

[@jacobfield4848]

People have been saying for 25 years that Serie A clubs need new stadiums.

[@rockstarsouth3405]

Still looks more beautiful more advanced than many of the premier league stadiums including old Trafford.

[@reddevil211287]

I hope they kick the greed out of football. Protect San Siro.

[@stefanhammel192]

Build that missing 4th ring on the third and renovate it. 100k people like camp nou would be epic.

[@JSEITSONEN]

Or incorporate those missing modern facilities there ! There is a large area to build whatever is needed to satisfy clubs interests! Renovate the rest of the stadium and find an solution to the ownership and revenue politics !

[@jaykrishnanparameswaran3423]

I don't see why there should be a debate about this. While conserving an iconic landmark is important and all, such romanticism will leave the Milan clubs further behind Europe's elite...like it or not this is the current way football is run globally and you can either pout about it and be left further behind or you can try and play the same game and get into the same stratosphere as other elite clubs in Europe...should be a no brainer

[@FORTISIAKING]

Unfortunately I don't see the san siro existing over the next 10 years🥲 Unfortunately stadiums either need to renovate to keep the stadium safe, demolish the stadium and replace with a new one which they've done at tottenham or relocate the new stadium elsewhere. Unfortunately Italy doesn't have a lot of capital like countries usa, UK or even Australia so public investment into stadiums doesn't really happen unless the stadium will bring in money like Madison square Garden or MCG which those stadiums are used most of the year. Where as san siro is only used for football matches. Like I said sad to see once a great football stadium go to rumble but buildings don't last forever 🥲

[@peterlpool1387]

2:36 look at how beautiful that ground is

[@NmpK24]

If the city owns it, why not just sell it to one or both Milan clubs? Would save having to demolish it or build another.

[@Rossoneri2]

Because it makes them money and they don't want to lose that source of revenue

[@CURTlS]

@@Rossoneri2but if the clubs leave they will also lose money.

[@Rossoneri2]

@@CURTlS they know that, they've blocked all previous attempts to let them build their own stadium for that reason.

[@alessiovalentini4401]

​@@CURTlSThis is why Italian teams fail to build stadiums. Municipalities or organizations such as CONI block the establishment of stadiums in order to obtain the lease

[@mikester4896]

If they're going to tear it down, they need to make sure that they replace it with something that serves the community like a huge football park for everyone to play in with proper goals, also perhaps an area where people can watch football together as a community. At least this way it can serve as a monument to the San Siro and keep the footballing spirit alive in Milan.

[@emeterioacuin6564]

We Must Preserve Iconic Land Mark......❤San Siro...

[@SocceruniverseX]

Inter must have their own stadium of Giuseppe Meazza, capacity around 80k !!!

[@Oliver-ym3ci]

great documentary! normaly documentarys are a bit one sided but you guys got the whole spectrum of it. great video, thanks! very torn to both sides, both clubs need a modern stadium but the history of the stadium is so unique that i can't imagine a world without San Siro. i hope the City and both Clubs find a fair solution which makes everyone happy and i'm sure they will. just don't tare it down please! it may belong to the city and the club may use it.. but in the end, it's the FANS that bring the stadium to live! huge respect 👍🏻

[@pahwraith]

Random observation. Hablo español y yo puedo entenderlos, hablan muy claro. Ahora quiero visitar Milan.

[@PinarelloVelo]

It’s a crumbling mess and badly in need of severe renovations or the complete rebuild. I’ve been there 2019/20 season for Inter Vs Parma and last September for Italy Vs England in nations league. Iconic it may be but overall has been left to rot for years.

[@vlad-]

As an AC Milan fan, I honestly hope both Milan and Inter leave this stadium. Let's see what this people/fossils who want to keep the stadium "as is" will do with the crumbling stadium that no one wants. Symbol my ass, the symbol is the team, the fans, the emblem, stadiums will be forgotten. AC Milan is already looking to build near Giuseppe Meazza and if not the current owners already said they will go as far as moving away from Milan. Sadly, Inter is not doing good financially, I don't know what they can do...but since the stadium is named by an iconic Inter player, they can keep it. For the good of Italian football, I hope they find a way out.

[@paulgilliland2992]

It’s going to cost €30 million to demolish and dispose of a stadium like this . I was there last year and it wasn’t a great experience. Food and beverage is a joke unless you’re in a hospitality suite.

[@rolandoaguilar8178]

Recently visited and it was magical

[@theredhall-thisisfootball]

Same with Camp Nou just imagine the memories, legends who walked in those stadiums gone just like that. Money is destroying football so badly and unfortunately no one will do anything to save it.

[@JB-sv1cn]

Camp nou is being modernised, but it will not lose it’s soul, because it’s style will stay the same

[@samizayn5666]

Camp Nou is getting reinnovated. And at the end of the day clubs have to reinnovate to keep in touch with Modern world. San Siro has the history but other facilities about the stadium is completely outdated. Same with Camp Nou it has a capacity of 99000+ and yet it lacks atmosphere of Allianz Arena or Signal Iduna Park or Wanda Metrapolitano.

[@zarelli7831]

We need a new stadium to be fair. It’s served it’s purpose.

[@michaeluzoho5838]

Curiosity wise, if you get a new stadium, do you think that the new stadium will be soulless?

[@DrPepperone]

Ma porcoddio è uno stadio. Tonnellate di cemento. Mica una cartaccia che si può buttare così. Il fatto che sia visto come un qualcosa di usa e getta è una prospettiva malata, da malati mentali. E questa malattia mentale si chiama capitalismo.

[@hamgil]

No we don't. We need to keep the San Siro up, and somehow find a way to renovate it like Madrid did to the Bernabeu or Barca to the Camp Nou

[@hdr2540]

​​@@michaeluzoho5838 as a Bayern fan I can share this story. After Bayern moved to Allianz Arena, the ultras said that the atmosphere of the new stadium was bad. It pissed then president Uli Hoeness and told them that if the atmosphere had been bad it would've been their fault for failing to create an atmosphere. Today no Bayern fan would say they'd rather play in the old Olympia Stadion. The Arena is one of the best and most modern stadiums in the world and it has great atmosphere. Allianz Arena is the best decision the club have ever made in the modern era. Oh and a few weeks ago Allianz renew their naming rights for the stadium for another ten years with bigger contract.

[@zarelli7831]

@@hamgil As an Italian I disagree

[@1911FanBoi]

Get rid of it. At the same time you don’t want to be building new stadiums.

[@daveyeddie8176]

New stadium at San Donato, 47km away, good transport links to be provided , but, ouch.

[@simoneflorean4875]

I'm italian and an ac milan fan, the problem is that you can't renovate san siro, it was build in 1926, 100 years ago, ac milan and inter told a lot of time that the best solution is a new stadium, italian big teams obtain less money from the stadiums than small teams in premier, the solution for milan and inter is another stadium, without any doubt, sansiro could be used for the national

[@safarit678]

People romanticize rather than be pragmatic in matters that do not concern thier livelihood. Clubs need to make money. A building is just a building

[@ezraezra2928]

When I watched the same video about Italian football stadiums made by Alfie Potts (HITC Sevens), there were some problems about Italian football recently: 1.The legacy of all Italian football stadiums weren't the same as what happened for other big countries after hosting such a big events. Germany's 2006 World Cup modern stadiums were never changed such as Allianz Arena (Bayern Munich), Veltins Arena (Schalke), and even Zentralstadion (RB Leipzig). Germany was even hosted the upcoming Euro 2024 with the reused World Cup venues. Meanwhile, Italy lost 2 1990 World Cup stadiums after a long term period (Delle Alpi in Turin and Sant'Elia in Cagliari) due to the technical problems. On the other hand, England are also seeking for the new Everton stadium to replace Goodison Park by 2024 for Euro 2028 bid to be hosted in UK and Ireland. 2.Italian clubs performed poorly in European stages, with Inter Milan being the last one for the case of Champions League in 2010 and no Europa League titles for Italy. This year saw 6 Italian sides still alive in the quarterfinals, a half of them (Napoli, Milan, and Inter) being in the Champions League, the first time since 2005/06. In Europa League, there is Juventus and Roma, and the draw also guaranteed an all-Italian Final if they overcame the oppositions in quarterfinals and semifinals. In Champions League, if Inter managed to beat Benfica, Italy will even granted one spot to the Final.

[@alancawfield6549]

I'm planning to go to a match there in May, looking forward to it. They shouldn't tear it down they should do what Real Sociedad did with the Anoeta and repair and modernize it.

[@talboyovGY]

I felt the same when they destroyed Wembley - now, all these years later, I realise it wasn't as big a deal as I thought. Yes I get it as to why they don't want to lose this stadium but when they are watching their teams in a new stadium they'll soon get used to it.

[@gojiplusone]

San Siro, Champions League anthem, and light drizzle... Nothing beats that. One of the coolest stadiums ever. Renovation is needed surely, but I don't want to see it turned into a soulless bowl of nothing like the Spurs stadium.

[@u.p.1038]

It would be a shame to tear it down. Its not only a ground full of history ist also an architectural masterpiece. Wembley is actually a good example, because it is gone. The new stadium is just called Wembley, the history was destroyed. The magic of the actual Wembley cant be recreated and they didnt even tried to. Its just a modern stadium like hundred others.

[@cloudsesh7591]

just casually miss, Estadio AZTECA that saw the goal of the century, the hand of god, Maradona and Pele world champions and waiting for his 3th world cup with 100,000 capacity.

[@lloydmarshall8563]

Visited in January. Told my wife we need to go because it’s being demolished. Glad we went.

[@lloydmarshall8563]

@Aqeel mahmood told her it’s being torn down and we’ll never get a chance to see it again. That and I agreed to visit Venice with her the following day.

[@Club420]

Make it a museum to Italian Football. The 20th Century's colluseum should be allowed to survive like the roman one.

[@truper232424]

San Siro is iconic. A true beauty.

[@haddingtoniangcp2464]

I hope to travel to Milan and take a picture before it gets torn down

[@leemcdonald1342]

Forgive me for bringing an American football idea to an association football video, but AC Milan could look at Arrowhead Stadium or Lambeau Field to see how an aging stadium could be renovated and avoided the wrecking ball or the demolition button.

[@ektran4205]

the san siro is like the vet or oakland colliseum

[@leemcdonald1342]

@@ektran4205 Okay.

[@viscabarca4408]

É uma pena. Deveria ser reformado e modernizado como o Camp Nou vai ser, o San Siro é um estádio emblemático no cenário europeu e merece mais respeito.

[@Hotelgenerator]

It's a tough pill to swallow that modern day football clubs are businesses more than anything else.

[@LordSesshaku]

Long story short: the stadium is nice but it's owned by the city, not the clubs, therefore being economically unreasonable for them. The clubs want to either own the stadium or make their own, the city wants to use the clubs for their own income. I say tear down that stadium, or privatize it to the clubs under promise of conservating the external architecture. Behind every "public romanticism" it's a state employee wanting to profit from someone elses work. It's the mentality of failures.

[@bayside_baller]

Or let Inter and AC build their own grounds, while keeping the San Siro as a Wembley type location for finals, playoffs, bigger concerts etc

[@junglejota2]

One of the sad things you see that most town are missing their identity. Cities are becoming undifferentiated, same stores, same restaurants, no local history and wonder. A stadium is part of the community. Imagine if they destroyed the Coliseum or the Parthenon in the 2nd century? What would we have now?

[@bobstermaher]

off there for the veroana games in 2 weeks

[@rednaxelaeoj]

San Siro is Colosseum of Milan