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The EU's law to ban deforestation from the supply chains of its companies is frustrating trade partners abroad. Just take Indonesia, which says the law is harming its small farmers. The spat comes as the two are thrashing out a free trade deal and the EU needs Indonesia’s supply of minerals for batteries and computer chips. So does the EU back down on its environmental principles or put at risk its relationship with Indonesia and potentially harm important industries? DW's Daniel Winter spoke with Indonesia’s ambassador to Germany, Arief Havas Oegroseno, asking him if they’re close to sealing a deal.
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@araara4746
@araara4746 4 ай бұрын
EU: "We banned Indonesian palm oil because it is not environmentally friendly." Also EU: "We want Indonesian nickel, even though it is also not environmentally friendly."
@vegemarkr4582
@vegemarkr4582 4 ай бұрын
European companies want the nickle*
@DNmyhusband
@DNmyhusband 4 ай бұрын
UE 😂😂😂😂😂
@myplaylist4959
@myplaylist4959 4 ай бұрын
Eu are clown 🤡🤡
@lembitu4104
@lembitu4104 4 ай бұрын
Big difference with nickel and palms. Look at Borneo fools
@araara4746
@araara4746 4 ай бұрын
@@lembitu4104 Right. Nickel mines are even more environmentally unfriendly than palm oil plantations.
@stefansb3802
@stefansb3802 4 ай бұрын
Indonesia never banned Nickel export, the export ban was on raw Nickel ore, so if you need Nickel you have to process it in Indonesian soil. Simple as that.
@organizedchaos4559
@organizedchaos4559 4 ай бұрын
What if they don’t want that. They want the raw nickel ore
@lilacer6841
@lilacer6841 4 ай бұрын
​@@organizedchaos4559so Indobesia will manufacture their own products
@jagodiving
@jagodiving 4 ай бұрын
​​@@organizedchaos4559they can buy those from another country, as simple as EU banned palm oil from indonesia.
@cungcung5042
@cungcung5042 4 ай бұрын
​@@organizedchaos4559Then you won't get it at all. The Chinese already setup processing companies in Indonesia. They have no problems with that. If the Chinese can do it, why can't the Europeans or American do it ?
@stefansb3802
@stefansb3802 4 ай бұрын
@@organizedchaos4559 The EU can can go buy elsewhere. Who cares what they want.
@revifebrianto401
@revifebrianto401 4 ай бұрын
"Do you think European being a hypocrite? His answer was savage... " ABSOLUTELY"
@laosasean8482
@laosasean8482 4 ай бұрын
And the cousin America, Australia and Canada.
@danawasiat1343
@danawasiat1343 4 ай бұрын
All the way..
@Disci_vation
@Disci_vation 4 ай бұрын
“Yo jelas lah rek menungso iku ncen senengane ngono” jare bapae neng jero ati.
@evo3430id
@evo3430id 4 ай бұрын
Loh samean kok jowo jebul kene mas ​@@Disci_vation
@kuronasution
@kuronasution 4 ай бұрын
Hadir
@nothingness1425
@nothingness1425 3 ай бұрын
EU: "We banned Russian gas and oil because they come from Russia." Also EU: "We buy Russian gas and oil through the 3rd parties although they still come from Russia." And directly as well.
@xakushonx8798
@xakushonx8798 3 ай бұрын
You are rigth on that one, but just because you do a fault it doesnt mean you have to do another, and the eu kinda has no choice than to buy oil from russia
@NessieNice
@NessieNice 3 ай бұрын
@@xakushonx8798 so... the ban is just a bluff.
@aodriseu
@aodriseu 3 ай бұрын
No, we don't.
@suryakantibiswal
@suryakantibiswal 3 ай бұрын
​@@xakushonx8798 when you have no choice you shouldn't have made those ridiculous sanctions drama 😂
@shaktimishra9710
@shaktimishra9710 3 ай бұрын
They buy oil from India and India but oil from Russia indirectly buying from Russia 💀
@joMan1060
@joMan1060 4 ай бұрын
Indonesia didnt need EU to buy Indonesian Nickle.. we have Korean, Japanese, China, Canada, even Indonesia work with Australia for EV battery. those country are willing to work with Indonesia so that Indonesia can get Added value from Nickle. the issue is EU Forcing Indonesia to export raw Nickel to EU by attacking Indonesia in WTO... so EU need Indonesia raw nickel and Forcing Indonesia to export it RAW. exporting RAW will only benefit EU and Indonesia only become cheap labour miner..... Imperialsim mentality is strong with EU.
@nenasiek
@nenasiek 4 ай бұрын
How are we forcing u to sell to us? You gotta follow the rules of the WTO if youre in it, thats it.
@raquetdude
@raquetdude 4 ай бұрын
Is the EU bombing ethnic minorities within the EU? No. Is Indonesia yes. Are those ethnic minorities living on the same island where Indonesia has lots of minerals… yes. Indonesia is incredibly imperialistic
@Jack-e5t
@Jack-e5t 4 ай бұрын
lol everyone’s at fault but you right? 😂
@ornachia2489
@ornachia2489 4 ай бұрын
@@Jack-e5t Yeah that basically European mentality during colonization
@avorfm1964
@avorfm1964 4 ай бұрын
@@nenasiek Right, that is why other trade bloc options should be considered. Listening to those self proclaimed preachers of Europe sounds like the US defending Israel in Gaza.
@nunyabiznes33
@nunyabiznes33 4 ай бұрын
"We don't want you to harm your environment by cutting forests but we want you to harm your environment by mining for us"
@laosasean8482
@laosasean8482 4 ай бұрын
Western will never give up the racism and double standard.
@KissWantTo
@KissWantTo 4 ай бұрын
True, Fact.
@noertri618
@noertri618 4 ай бұрын
YES
@christbenitez8797
@christbenitez8797 4 ай бұрын
Is the US is tired of Europe's bullsh
@Teuwufel
@Teuwufel 4 ай бұрын
​@@christbenitez8797 😂😂 US have even less to speak here
@timawa22
@timawa22 4 ай бұрын
Good to know ASEAN countries starting to assert themselves especially against powerful countries.
@SiamSentin3l
@SiamSentin3l 4 ай бұрын
The EU isn't a powerful entity anymore 😂
@wilsontiu9158
@wilsontiu9158 4 ай бұрын
Except for one whose citizens adore their colonizers.
@timawa22
@timawa22 4 ай бұрын
@@wilsontiu9158 At same time other neighbor are in the pocket of china also.
@Wvk5zc
@Wvk5zc 4 ай бұрын
​​@@wilsontiu9158Singapore and filipino?
@nunyabiznes33
@nunyabiznes33 4 ай бұрын
​@@timawa22ASEAN is divided into 3 camps regarding China, hostile, ambivalent and friend for pay.
@gabybatubara
@gabybatubara 3 ай бұрын
Indonesia is not a flawless country... of course we have our own problems and challenges. However, watching people like Mr. Arief Havas Oegroseno represent Indonesia with such a strong stance and confidence on global news makes me very proud to be an Indonesian. We need more people like him and furthermore we must protect our natural resources from modern "trade imperialism"
@yaoliang1580
@yaoliang1580 3 ай бұрын
Like their US master, the EU isn't interested in protection of the environment but weaponising them to suit their own greed n selfish interests
@FlynnMegaTensei
@FlynnMegaTensei 3 ай бұрын
Betul 👏👏
@barrav3385
@barrav3385 2 ай бұрын
Betul bang
@yaoliang1580
@yaoliang1580 2 ай бұрын
@@FragLord if there's any, it certainly pales in comparison to the worst genocide n atrocities committed by the US led collective West. Take a look at your own mirror first before trying to criticise others
@123Ryanist
@123Ryanist 2 ай бұрын
I live in the EU and I agree with Indonesia! EU is a evil Union, that is just about political correctness and greed. EU doesn't listen or care about its citizens!
@blood_ackerman6190
@blood_ackerman6190 4 ай бұрын
Indonesian President Jokowi said : Nickel is our nickel, it's ours from Indonesia, it's up to us what we want to do.
@jayjaywoodland
@jayjaywoodland 4 ай бұрын
nations are sick of imported inflation again and again (because of U$$D Over-Printing), disrupting their economic growth... while us enjoy their spending spree without feeling guilty/shame for the world... in addition, nations are also de-risking their reserves from being looted/sanctioned by us. world-wide de-dollarization is inevitable and imminent, or is it?
@oemolokupano4512
@oemolokupano4512 3 ай бұрын
No, Indonesia is a Colonial Power replacing the Dutch Colonial Power since 1950 (the establishment of the Unitary State which illegally destroyed the Federal state). All natural resources outside Java are economic theft by the Javanese Colonizer towards the oppressed nations like Maluku, Papua, Aceh and Borneo. Wake up people!
@blak_ket
@blak_ket 3 ай бұрын
@@jayjaywoodland I hope we go de-dollarization. The West want us to trust them with our money but when we're not doing what they want -even though we don't break any rules or committing any war-crime- they threaten us with embargo/sanction. They become an entity that we can't trust anymore.
@yezki8
@yezki8 3 ай бұрын
​@@jayjaywoodlandit is truly inevitable IF the FEDs dont stop printing
@atm5269
@atm5269 3 ай бұрын
Let's cut ties with the EU, the UK, and the US.
@iggy5347
@iggy5347 4 ай бұрын
Indonesia has the right to defend herself
@mitoroskokoros589
@mitoroskokoros589 4 ай бұрын
dude i am loving this one >=)
@Luluskuy
@Luluskuy 4 ай бұрын
*himself
@knmaherijayatp8181
@knmaherijayatp8181 4 ай бұрын
@@Luluskuy her. we indonesian called our country "ibu pertiwi", motherland in english.
@fbdpbackup
@fbdpbackup 4 ай бұрын
Defend yourself from what? Better protest your corruption first.
@bintiaisiah
@bintiaisiah 4 ай бұрын
tapi menggunakan her itu kalo anda belajar feminisme dan patriarkal berarti Indonesia dikatakan lemah . jadi netral untuk boleh juga mengatakan himself. atau themselves. bukan karena Indonesia menyebut diri mereka ibu pertiwi. karena selain Indonesia juga sering negara atau objek apapun itu kalau dalam sebuah isu kontroversial atau beda perspektif sering menggunakan herself.
@ollysav9857
@ollysav9857 4 ай бұрын
As a fine man once said, "Europes problems are the worlds problems, but the worlds problems are not Europes problems"
@jorsm.3893
@jorsm.3893 4 ай бұрын
You have an opinion of your own as well ? :) If the EU want to make import/export laws based on environmental grounds, than Indonesia or any other party has very little to say about that. If the EU later can no longer get the goods they need, because no trade partner can meet the requirements, they will certainly revise them.
@MSDGroup-ez6zk
@MSDGroup-ez6zk 4 ай бұрын
@@jorsm.3893 When European and Americans concern about Environment, I cannot stop LOL. Thanks to petrodollar, there are 1.4 billion cars nowadays compared 200 million in 1970 when Petrodollar was signed in. If each ICE car passenger produce 192 gram CO2 and every car has 2 passenger, thus a day there will be 2x192x1.4 billion = 537 billion gram of CO2 that people breath in. That's only cars. To increase the sale in oil, USA and Europeans sell cheap cars, commercial jets, trains, plastics etc. Now Europeans are talking about environment. What a joke!
@jorsm.3893
@jorsm.3893 4 ай бұрын
@@MSDGroup-ez6zk The real joke is always referring to the past when people are trying to change. There is a vast difference in thinking between generations. I personally don't even own a car, even though I could get one. Calling out people on what previous generations accomplished serves pretty much nothing. Though I agree that the EU should stop getting itself into diplomatic "hot water" by commenting on domestic issues of non-EU countries, which products the EU does and does not allow to be brought in is the EU's issue.
@tezarmxgpique702
@tezarmxgpique702 4 ай бұрын
You wish
@RazorMouth
@RazorMouth 4 ай бұрын
​@@MSDGroup-ez6zk LOL, we didn't even know about the damage CO2 was doing until the last 20 years. Reality is we need to change our ways globally "NOW"
@BobfromSydney
@BobfromSydney 3 ай бұрын
I was extremely impressed by the Indonesian ambassador. He balanced the soft and hard issues very well by making a positive appeal on behalf on Indonesia's trade interests while also aiming to improve relations with the German public. It speaks well that Indonesia is able to reach into it's population of 280 million and bring forth a person of merit like this to act as it's ambassador.
@pinchebruha405
@pinchebruha405 Ай бұрын
Exactly why I have never understood Trump, let alone Kamela….😢 we’re done
@ulrichbehnke9656
@ulrichbehnke9656 Ай бұрын
@@BobfromSydney A good diplomacy is always to stay more neutral when other countries clashes. So you get not involved, make yourself no enemies and can become a mediator. We germans ourself had gathered a special role of diplomatic mediation to overcome the cold war and the iron curtain. So we Germans have full understandance that Indonesia shows diplomatic reluctance to take side with the West. Indonesia is a bridge country between India, China and Australia/NATO and with a population of 250 Mio strong enough to become a power centrum of it’s own if you manage to counterbalance the other superpowers. Naturally they will do anything to drag you in their corner. But with the West you share the value of democracy and free trade. And you can not really be a friend of Modi‘s and XiPing‘s way of Antiislamism. Germany will offer you business deals. We are not interested in treasures of the soil but in industrial investments like we have done all over the world and have created 6 Million jobs outside Germany.
@skimidot92
@skimidot92 4 ай бұрын
It's raw nickel export ban, not all kinds of nickel products. Indonesia welcomes other countries to invest in nickel downstreaming industries in Indonesia. The one making problem here is the EU, they don't want to invest in Indonesia but they want only nickel ores. When Indonesia only exported the ores, the value was around $1 billion. But after raw nickel export ban in effect and nickel products start being exported, the export value rose to $30 billions. The nickel industries also employ more than 100k people.
@hyy3657
@hyy3657 4 ай бұрын
that's how you protect your home environment at the first place! invest in local clean factory!
@4IZUKI
@4IZUKI 4 ай бұрын
EU : that ore are mine 😂
@jayjaywoodland
@jayjaywoodland 4 ай бұрын
nations are sick of imported inflation again and again (because of U$$D Over-Printing), disrupting their economic growth... while us enjoy their spending spree without feeling guilty/shame for the world... in addition, nations are also de-risking their reserves from being looted/sanctioned by us. world-wide de-dollarization is inevitable and imminent, or is it?
@machintrucGaming
@machintrucGaming 3 ай бұрын
@@jayjaywoodland Chineese Yuan sure do look like the world's future currency
@xakushonx8798
@xakushonx8798 3 ай бұрын
The EU's import restrictions on Indonesian palm oil are allowed under the WTO rules, but Indonesia's restriction on nickel exports is not. It is as simple as that. WTO is already set up to give developing nations massive trade advantages in the form of lower tariffs. Indonesia joined the WTO what gave them massiv advantages so they have to follow the rules or leave it and loose their priviliges. They cant chery pick, its that simple so stop your victim mentality. Also it causes heavy deforstation and they can decide what the buy.
@tomkelly8827
@tomkelly8827 4 ай бұрын
As a Canadian with no real dog in this fight, I must say I really like they way that he handled those questions. Yes we are open for business, no it will not be on your terms. We can negotiate as equals. Come and help if you want to make it better. It is a great message and I am glad to hear that some of our Nickel mining and refining expertise is getting put to good use there
@gtaraya
@gtaraya 4 ай бұрын
Equals… HAH!
@amorpatriae1659
@amorpatriae1659 4 ай бұрын
just like the title said, EU Imperialism. Its on their DNA, 'You do as i said you to do peasant, or else'
@AIKalangie
@AIKalangie 4 ай бұрын
Realistically it is easier for us indonesian to do trading and transfer of techs (legally) with australia, canada, US, japan and south korea than with EU. These countries have higher FDI in Indonesia than EU.
@TheAnonymousKnightOfJustice
@TheAnonymousKnightOfJustice 4 ай бұрын
​@@gtarayayeah lol EU ARROGANCE
@joMan1060
@joMan1060 4 ай бұрын
Thanks so much, Canadian understand Indonesian in this regard.. We Indonesia know that we need to learn more on how to mine nickle cleaner, we hope other country teach us instead of attacking us in WTO. We are open for business, we are happy to welcome more Canadian company invest in added Value production in Indonesia nickle businesses.
@james7286
@james7286 4 ай бұрын
Thank you Mr. Ambassador, Indonesia have the right to defend it's interests!
@lzh4950
@lzh4950 3 ай бұрын
I remember Singapore said something similar when defending its relatively neutral position over the Israeli-Palestinian conflict
@xakushonx8798
@xakushonx8798 3 ай бұрын
The EU's import restrictions on Indonesian palm oil are allowed under the WTO rules, but Indonesia's restriction on nickel exports is not. It is as simple as that. WTO is already set up to give developing nations massive trade advantages in the form of lower tariffs. Indonesia joined the WTO what gave them massiv advantages so they have to follow the rules or leave it and loose their priviliges. They cant chery pick, its that simple so stop your victim mentality. Also it causes heavy deforstation and they can decide what the buy.
@james7286
@james7286 3 ай бұрын
@@xakushonx8798 Indonesia is not a colony and have the right to choose who to sell goods and service to, Indonesia have the right to defend it's interest
@xakushonx8798
@xakushonx8798 3 ай бұрын
@@james7286 Did you even read my comment or are you just unable to understand it? INDONESIA JOINED THE WTO to profit from it, so it also has to follow the rules. If Indonesia doesnt wanna follow the rules dont join the WTO. You know how contracts work right?
@robthebob4586
@robthebob4586 3 ай бұрын
@@xakushonx8798Does the US and EU themselves follow their own rules? Or do you think they can just impose it and forget about it whenever they want?
@carvalhobiel
@carvalhobiel 4 ай бұрын
Way to go Indonesia, all the support from Brazil on you fight against imperialism! 🇧🇷 I can't stand the Global North's hypocrisy, in the Brazil-EU negotiations it was the same - we should open our public auctions for European companies to enter freely, but EU wouldn't buy our commodities that would compete with their local markets alleging environmental reasons. The free market only exists for them to enter in the Global South, but there's always an excuse to avoid our companies there (TikTok was just the latest). It always reminds me of Ha-Joon Chang's Kicking Away the Ladder, how they consistently try to stop us from following the steps that led to their development. I loved when the ambassador called out the explicite imperialism, just like how Guyana's president recently responded to a BBC's interviewer attempt to lecture them on climate responsibilities. And I knew that Indonesia had a strong growth, but I wasn't aware it had been going high consistently for so many years, got really curious to learn more about Indonesia's modern history and the factors that allowed for such consistent growth (in Brazil for years our growth is compared to chickens' flight a small upwards curve which quickly comes back down haha).
@Jaygrind-vf8oz
@Jaygrind-vf8oz 3 ай бұрын
Well said man, business is business it has to be profitable for both sides Glad to see Brazil join BRICS, our gov didn't have courage yet to do so!
@sygish
@sygish 3 ай бұрын
lol. the former “empire” of Brazil pretending to be a victim of colonial powers. If you’re descended from a european/asian/african country you’re a colonist.
@chaseonfroy
@chaseonfroy 3 ай бұрын
@@sygish reasons?
@thijmstickman8349
@thijmstickman8349 3 ай бұрын
(The regulation) includes cattle, cocoa, coffee, oil palm, rubber, soya and wood. As regards the situation of forests within the Union, the State of Europe's Forests 2020 report states that, between 1990 and 2020, the area of forests in Europe has increased by 9 %, carbon stored in the biomass has grown by 50 % and wood supply has risen by 40 %. (segments from the EU law) From 2001 to 2023, Indonesia lost 30.8 Mha of tree cover, equivalent to a 19% decrease in tree cover since 2000, and 22.2 Gt of C0e emissions. (Global forest watch) I looked up the 2.2 Mha claim and only found sources verifying the EU laws claim. I guess the politican lied. l agree Indonesia has the right to only export processed Nickel, and the deforestation regulation may need to be amended to not disproportionately impact small farmers, but the EU has every right and reason to limit its import of products which cause deforestation.
@xakushonx8798
@xakushonx8798 3 ай бұрын
You really taking tiktok as an example, your companies are avoided if they dont follow the standarts.
@alejandrosanchez6683
@alejandrosanchez6683 4 ай бұрын
Support for Indonesia from México 🇲🇽🤝🏽🇮🇩 we need to stand strong and together, support each other against the oppressive imperialist practices of the Anglo-Saxon community Eurocentric and those bad hombres of the United States. World united against imperialism 👊🏽
@visitbali364
@visitbali364 4 ай бұрын
Of cours bro. The character of westerners from the VOC era until now has not changed. But now they play systematically
@dgmojojojo
@dgmojojojo 4 ай бұрын
​@@JeffPar50 or, you know, as Indonesia does from their independence i think it's free, proactive and neutral or something like that i forgot.
@laosasean8482
@laosasean8482 4 ай бұрын
@@JeffPar50 Those countries are rich in natural resources but EU got none and that why they tried took over the Global south.
@fevakurniawan5689
@fevakurniawan5689 4 ай бұрын
Thanks you for your support
@ShalahudinShalahudin
@ShalahudinShalahudin 4 ай бұрын
Good 👍
@hansinglauw863
@hansinglauw863 4 ай бұрын
Inilah kenapa pendidikan harus maju di Indonesia, terlihat dari jawaban Pak Arief Havas. 👍👍👍 God bless Indonesia 🙏🇮🇩
@Neuronjake
@Neuronjake 4 ай бұрын
But indonesian teenager said kulia adalah pegangguran dengan gaya😅
@Iqbaludens
@Iqbaludens 3 ай бұрын
Lulusan Harvard gak kaleng-kaleng emang
@valerioharvey7289
@valerioharvey7289 3 ай бұрын
@@Neuronjake kalo kuliah ngasal, dan mirisnya banyak yang begitu
@Freak.Ramminses
@Freak.Ramminses 2 ай бұрын
Jujur saya suka dengan presenter pertanyaannya hanya satu tema dan poin poinnya masuk di dalam tema karena durasi pendek. Kalau di Indonesia durasi pendek tapi pertanyaannya lebih dari satu tema, bahkan poinnya hanya sekilas dan kurang terjawab jelas.
@rrajan5476
@rrajan5476 Ай бұрын
hahaha,,, you are spot on, educated Indonesians are savagely smart!
@mufarrijlukman21
@mufarrijlukman21 2 ай бұрын
Salah satu orang Pemerintahan Indonesia yang paling Well-Spoken dan paham dengan bidangnya. Thank you Pak Arief for fighting for our trade rights ❤🇮🇩
@global.citizens
@global.citizens 2 ай бұрын
Corruption is not good at all It ruins the future
@tschavalala
@tschavalala 3 ай бұрын
Greetings from Germany to Indonesia! This guy is right. And Indonesians always have been nice and welcoming people towards us.
@user-specdsds1555
@user-specdsds1555 3 ай бұрын
Apa kabar. Do you need a whiteman who support East indies?
@sultanahsan9257
@sultanahsan9257 2 ай бұрын
​@@user-specdsds1555Who Of Course Dutch But Brits Not Because That Make Netherland Rich
@Rahmatttable
@Rahmatttable 2 ай бұрын
ok good, Germany must exit EU like UK
@sitinowak
@sitinowak Ай бұрын
Thank you.
@thegrandlord2914
@thegrandlord2914 4 ай бұрын
Indonesian palm oil plantation size is around 110.000km², yet able to produce more edible oil than the whole EU 1,7 million km² vegetable oil plantation. So, who's more environmentaly friendly here?
@tubagussujana2835
@tubagussujana2835 4 ай бұрын
of course, the EU is more environmentally friendly how dare you ask that question? EU is anything and everything about the environment
@Zantigableiaust
@Zantigableiaust 4 ай бұрын
​@@tubagussujana2835 Yeah lol..
@za7v9ier
@za7v9ier 4 ай бұрын
palm oil has the most productive yield per hectare.
@cgame2867
@cgame2867 4 ай бұрын
​@@tubagussujana2835wtf😂
@sfyn93
@sfyn93 4 ай бұрын
Negara maju selalu lebih mencemari lingkungan dari pada negara berkembang, itu sudah pasti, tidak mungkin tidak.
@ornachia2489
@ornachia2489 4 ай бұрын
EU : We don't want your palm oil Indonesia, because it's bad for environment!! Same EU : We still want you to export raw nickel to us though, If not we'll bring this to WTO ..... [Edit]
@jnfunvufb
@jnfunvufb 4 ай бұрын
Wrong. Watch the interview. Indonesia isn't the only nation that produces raw nickel and there exits a nations who can produce nickel with eu rule.
@actorneno
@actorneno 4 ай бұрын
Always double standards colonization
@joMan1060
@joMan1060 4 ай бұрын
@@jnfunvufb lol.. then why sue Indonesia in WTO ??? go buy somewhere else... LOL
@Blodhelm
@Blodhelm 4 ай бұрын
He straight up complained that the EU doesn't import their nickel and then called Brussels racist for not buying their forest-devastating products.
@skellurip
@skellurip 4 ай бұрын
@@Blodhelm brussel is racist colonialist, hardly controversial
@liar-liar
@liar-liar 4 ай бұрын
While the EU farmers are protesting all the time
@alicejyi4705
@alicejyi4705 4 ай бұрын
Right, that's one of their rule based world order
@jorsm.3893
@jorsm.3893 4 ай бұрын
@@alicejyi4705 That's sentence make you try ?
@StrikeBolteafc
@StrikeBolteafc 4 ай бұрын
Good, let them because they don’t do anything
@machintrucGaming
@machintrucGaming 3 ай бұрын
They've won dramatic relax on Neonicotinoid and large scale industrial sheptels of chikens. Up to 40 000 chickens without environmental studies. That 40 000 chiken poop gotta go somehwere, and it's going to end up in making even more deadly algua.
@xakushonx8798
@xakushonx8798 3 ай бұрын
The EU's import restrictions on Indonesian palm oil are allowed under the WTO rules, but Indonesia's restriction on nickel exports is not. It is as simple as that. WTO is already set up to give developing nations massive trade advantages in the form of lower tariffs. Indonesia joined the WTO what gave them massiv advantages so they have to follow the rules or leave it and loose their priviliges. They cant chery pick, its that simple so stop your victim mentality. Also it causes heavy deforstation and they can decide what the buy.
@memetharmophis2036
@memetharmophis2036 3 ай бұрын
EU : ban palm oil,because of deforestation. INDONESIA : Ban Nickle export. EU : WAIT THAT'S ILLEGAL.
@hoti47
@hoti47 3 ай бұрын
Im an eu sceptic myself and I want it gone or at least reormed, but I don't think they said it's illegal.
@xakushonx8798
@xakushonx8798 3 ай бұрын
The EU's import restrictions on Indonesian palm oil are allowed under the WTO rules, but Indonesia's restriction on nickel exports is not. It is as simple as that. WTO is already set up to give developing nations massive trade advantages in the form of lower tariffs. Indonesia joined the WTO what gave them massiv advantages so they have to follow the rules or leave it and loose their priviliges. They cant chery pick, its that simple so stop your victim mentality. Also it causes heavy deforstation and they can decide what the buy.
@rahmadrenaldi2624
@rahmadrenaldi2624 3 ай бұрын
​@@xakushonx8798report this guy, he's a bot.
@ldrOqowoe
@ldrOqowoe 3 ай бұрын
@@xakushonx8798I AGREEE, INDONESIA SHOULD LEAVE WTO AND LEAVE ITS WTO-SUPPORTING CONSUMERS WITHOUT NICKEL RIGHT? THEY SHOULD JUST BUY SOMEWHERE ELSE FOR A LOT MORE CHEAP! Uhoh, BUT WHERE?! INDONESIA?! LMAO
@stxfdt1240
@stxfdt1240 2 ай бұрын
​@renee0768 look a caps lock joker😂😂😂😂
@Good_Nawaitu
@Good_Nawaitu 4 ай бұрын
The principle of European and Western countries is generally to take maximum advantage and have control over it. Modern colonial model.
@Kvasiir
@Kvasiir 4 ай бұрын
No different to how Indonesia has treated west Papuans 😢
@jagodiving
@jagodiving 4 ай бұрын
​@@Kvasiirso come to indonesia and look what hapoened in papua, how indonesia gave much money and effort to growth papua
@Kvasiir
@Kvasiir 4 ай бұрын
@@jagodivingfree west Papua from colonisers ☝🏻
@Tumanggor-sq2xp
@Tumanggor-sq2xp 4 ай бұрын
Your eyes ​@@Kvasiir
@winter6849
@winter6849 4 ай бұрын
@@Kvasiirso that white countries can come in and take the resources just like in timor leste 👍
@DabaksolGuardPost
@DabaksolGuardPost 4 ай бұрын
It's actually pretty simple. They EU didn't want their agriculture sector harmed by Indonesian Palm. In the other hand they also didn't want their smelter to moves to Indonesia. Deforestation, free trade, and maybe in the future separatism is just the excuse.
@sragen99
@sragen99 4 ай бұрын
Of all vegetable oil, palm oil is the cheapest and yields the most result /m2. If the argument is destroying the environment because of monoculture, then rapeseed oil, sunflower oil, soybean oil etc. is more destructive.
@jayjaywoodland
@jayjaywoodland 4 ай бұрын
nations are sick of imported inflation again and again (because of U$$D Over-Printing), disrupting their economic growth... while us enjoy their spending spree without feeling guilty/shame for the world... in addition, nations are also de-risking their reserves from being looted/sanctioned by us. world-wide de-dollarization is inevitable and imminent, or is it?
@TheAnonymousKnightOfJustice
@TheAnonymousKnightOfJustice 3 ай бұрын
@@sragen99 we should make a argument about that lol attacking sunflower and soybean oil as well as rapeseed oil like they did to our palm oil. i mean we have the population to outgun them in the internet
@sragen99
@sragen99 3 ай бұрын
@@TheAnonymousKnightOfJustice the IUCN literally made a report on that with all the data needed.
@freezedeve3119
@freezedeve3119 3 ай бұрын
@@sragen99 only reason why EU buys palm oil is to make eco friendly gasolin for cars where other oils are for food consumption, so you can not really compare all oils together as equal, So eu stopped buying palm oil because it caused problem where EU people cars ate poor people food.
@AmitSunar3092
@AmitSunar3092 4 ай бұрын
If a coin is Tossed then Western Countries will say both Head and Tail is mine.
@DNmyhusband
@DNmyhusband 4 ай бұрын
UE 😂😂😂😂😂
@ska5568
@ska5568 4 ай бұрын
Because EU is no longer HE / SHE anymore, EU is now THEY / THEM 😂😂😂
@exelrode
@exelrode 4 ай бұрын
To be fair all countries would want that , including India. Look at how India plays both sides when it suits them and justify it in the name of national interests
@ah5904
@ah5904 4 ай бұрын
​@@exelrode Although I'm not India, but I'll help them to explain simple logic to European like you. You see, in this world there is a word called "neutral". So, playing *BOTH SIDES* is different than *WANTING ALL SIDES* . India, just like Indonesia is a *NON BLOC* country from Cold War Era. So it'll be not surprised if Non Bloc countries like India play on both sides, so "dictacting" another country to play *ONLY* on your sides is a NO NO for us. Because, unlike "WESTERN EUROPE", we have CHOICES. That's the MAIN reason why our country is still standing.
@WelshGuitarDude
@WelshGuitarDude 4 ай бұрын
@@ah5904 you don't have choices you're poor. If you want wealth your only option is relations with the wealthy West. China learnt this in the 90ies and over took India and most of Asia massively. The West won't let you be neutral if you want your turn eating a slice of their pie, they set the rules . Or don't and stay poor which India has chosen to do for most of the modern era so far. China has started to turn away from the west and become hostile, now look at their situation, it's a mess. Lots of major economic problems as growth slows. You can't get wealthy from nothing you have to get it from the west because they have the money and the financial market stronghold. Where else are you going to magically make money and over take china in terms of citizen wealth?
@jerrywu6337
@jerrywu6337 4 ай бұрын
EU : hey we want to buy nickel from you but we want it cheap ID : but we don't want to sell it cheap, you have to built industries in our country EU : You can't do that ID : It's ours so we can do what we want EU : It's a crime if it's not cheap I mean this is ridiculous, are you buying or are you robbing?😂
@TheBikeOnTheMoon
@TheBikeOnTheMoon 3 ай бұрын
I mean, it's typical colonism behavior from the EU, just like 100 year ago.
@KF-zb6gi
@KF-zb6gi 3 ай бұрын
They still think it's 100 years ago when they can colonize anyone lol
@FragLord
@FragLord 3 ай бұрын
@@TheBikeOnTheMoon Just like Indonesia colonizing Papua you mean
@TristanGhifaryFadhillahR-yj6uf
@TristanGhifaryFadhillahR-yj6uf 3 ай бұрын
​@@FragLord do you want me to bring all independent movement in europe?
@tseuren123
@tseuren123 3 ай бұрын
@@TristanGhifaryFadhillahR-yj6uf If you didn't kill, abuse and suppress them (and East Timorians etc) they wouldn't want to be independent, thats why Europe doesn't have this problem. seems pretty easy.
@lingth
@lingth 4 ай бұрын
EU talked environment principles, then buys Oil from Russia..
@appletree6741
@appletree6741 4 ай бұрын
EU doesn’t buy oil from Russia, only Hungary does
@apoek.lizt.blitzas4497
@apoek.lizt.blitzas4497 4 ай бұрын
Jerman, Franc, and many other guys Rusia oil also do you remember after eu sanction Rusia? They get energi crisis during winter​@@appletree6741
@futuretechworld576
@futuretechworld576 4 ай бұрын
@@appletree6741they still do , don’t be fooled you cannot cut Russian oil out of global trade
@Yusef-uh4wl
@Yusef-uh4wl 4 ай бұрын
Eu doesnt buy from russia but from india which buy from russia
@blak_ket
@blak_ket 4 ай бұрын
@@appletree6741 They do. They buy oil from Turkiye & India which, can you guess from where? That's right, from Russia. It's all Russian's oil just with middle-man now, thus more payment.
@donvongprachanh1484
@donvongprachanh1484 4 ай бұрын
Good job Indonesia 🇮🇩 👍
@RaymondS-e7o
@RaymondS-e7o 4 ай бұрын
EU seems to like the fruits but not the tree, like the tree but not the fruits?
@notusneo
@notusneo 4 ай бұрын
​@nono-ri9bt Palestine just like Israel is not a real btw
@kv4648
@kv4648 4 ай бұрын
​@@notusneo so is Indonesia. It's just java in a disguise
@Anji-h6l
@Anji-h6l 4 ай бұрын
Not
@coconutz11
@coconutz11 4 ай бұрын
Make Indonesia a Colony again
@WorldInterestingNews
@WorldInterestingNews 4 ай бұрын
Indonesia is a big country and has right to determine which ones are beneficial to the nation and which ones are not
@StrikeBolteafc
@StrikeBolteafc 4 ай бұрын
Yeah so why do they still keep complaining about the eu then?
@blood_ackerman6190
@blood_ackerman6190 4 ай бұрын
​@@StrikeBolteafcThe one complaining here is the EU, why has Indonesia stopped nickel exports to the EU. You are too innocent or don't understand politics, that is Indonesia's response, because you banned Indonesian palm oil in EU. Now Indonesia did the same thing
@StrikeBolteafc
@StrikeBolteafc 4 ай бұрын
@@blood_ackerman6190 ok, so eu banned olive oil and Indonesia banned nickel exports to help domestic manufacturing, so you both done it to each other so neither side can really complain
@MakIyen
@MakIyen 4 ай бұрын
​@@StrikeBolteafc funny thing in life. The one u reject turn out to be d one u need most.. eu never learnt frm classic love story 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@springfeelin7548
@springfeelin7548 4 ай бұрын
​@@StrikeBolteafcbut EU launched a WTO lawsuit against Indonesia. So who complain more here? They banned indonesia first, and they got ban in return. But now they turn into tantrum mode, and say it is unfair. so funny.
@DragonFrootJuice
@DragonFrootJuice 3 ай бұрын
Good for Indonesia. Tell em' hypocrites. Much love from 🇮🇳
@ilhamilham1167
@ilhamilham1167 3 ай бұрын
You people are the same
@m.akbarfajrian2656
@m.akbarfajrian2656 2 ай бұрын
@@ilhamilham1167 huh? Apa masalahnya sama mereka, kocak.
@duovigintillongaming3779
@duovigintillongaming3779 2 ай бұрын
What can Indonesia do even. Indonesia can't force the EU to buy their palm oil and they don't have the leverage to sanction the EU lmao. You don't sanction the EU
@m.akbarfajrian2656
@m.akbarfajrian2656 2 ай бұрын
@@duovigintillongaming3779 who's crying about raw nickle ban? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@semikolondev
@semikolondev Ай бұрын
@@m.akbarfajrian2656 Indonesia that's why their in the video.
@brukujinbrokujin7802
@brukujinbrokujin7802 4 ай бұрын
Fun fact. Palm oil can be processed into diesel, that is already sold cheaper in Indonesia and Malaysia. Without subsidies its sold the same price as regular diesel. One of the reason why west ban palm oil is to protect their oil industry. Literal gas growing on trees, too dangerous for their own economy.
@stmartinhk
@stmartinhk 4 ай бұрын
Ridiculous. Palm oil CANNOT be processed into diesel.
@mcbchannel7173
@mcbchannel7173 3 ай бұрын
the EU is getting crushed by their former colony of ASEAN countries. seems like the table has been turned upside down.
@Planeet-Long
@Planeet-Long 3 ай бұрын
This is because Western governments are captured by their own major companies through institutional lobbying.
@Bdbtg28691
@Bdbtg28691 3 ай бұрын
The EU is making the transition to green energy, and typically import rather than export oil/gas. US, Russia and the Gulf states are the main players in the petro industry. It is the deforestation issue, same as with Brazil.
@michaeltagor4238
@michaeltagor4238 3 ай бұрын
You ain't smart bro, not all things use diesel lol it has nothing to do with that
@bingebinge3722
@bingebinge3722 4 ай бұрын
This Indonesian officer is great. Impressive.
@เมฆาทอง
@เมฆาทอง 4 ай бұрын
Indeed
@LowenKM
@LowenKM 4 ай бұрын
Yep, great interview! Though interesting that Indonesia's trade with China is nearly _twice_ as much as with the U.S. & EU _combined..._ and whether Indonesia can resist China's own brand of heavy-handed 'colonialism' (aka, "Don't do or say anything that might 'displease' Xi and the CCP"}?
@jayjaywoodland
@jayjaywoodland 4 ай бұрын
nations are sick of imported inflation again and again (because of U$$D Over-Printing), disrupting their economic growth... while us enjoy their spending spree without feeling guilty/shame for the world... in addition, nations are also de-risking their reserves from being looted/sanctioned by us. world-wide de-dollarization is inevitable and imminent, or is it?
@mingonmongo1
@mingonmongo1 3 ай бұрын
@@jayjaywoodland So you'd prefer the world switch to the 'Yuan' instead, 'Komrade'...? ;-)
@GWT_A
@GWT_A 3 ай бұрын
​@@mingonmongo1 any country would want the best offer they could get, be it in idr, yen, yuan, euro, usd or any other currencies. USD used to be a globally used currency, but US one sided ban and freeze account on their own accord is posing a risk. The world is not revolving under them, people will look for alternatives, and whether it is yuan or rubel other will follow the rules that suit them best.
@warawiriarts
@warawiriarts 4 ай бұрын
Forest in europe had been long gone. instead of teaching other countries to sustain the forest, they better rebuild their forest
@jatimyw
@jatimyw 4 ай бұрын
I believe you are referring to replanting them as virgin forest with multiple kind of trees, which mean planting trees without timber harvest, keep it that way forever, provide oxygen and sactuary to animals, so that "many native animals already extict in EU" no longer to be proud of, and by doing that EU also contribute to suppress climate change, not just dictate that to countries that already preserves their virgin forest while doing nothing.. Oh wait, isn't doing nothing is reffered as "something" according to hypocrites type of mentality?
@JeffPar50
@JeffPar50 4 ай бұрын
Europe is actively reforesting though. 3 billion trees will have been planted by 2030.
@myne00
@myne00 4 ай бұрын
"Will have been." How many right now, and how long has it been?
@keihazuki22
@keihazuki22 4 ай бұрын
@@JeffPar50 Those trees are not for natural forest ecosystem. Those trees are not suitable for any small animal/normal vegetation to grow naturally. It's relatively close to palm oil plantation with rows of single type of trees either for plantation or logging. Its similar to palm oil company clearing land and planting palm trees and saying that they are actively planting million of trees.
@ChristiaanHW
@ChristiaanHW 4 ай бұрын
yeah Europe made the mistake of having to much deforestation so the rest of the world has the right to destroy nature as well. why should we learn from mistakes in the past, just keep on making the same mistakes and hope someone in the future will someone fix it. /s
@dzlfiqar
@dzlfiqar 4 ай бұрын
Always met him during Friday Prayer in Berlin, PROUD
@xikp270
@xikp270 3 ай бұрын
How lucky, I want to meet him too
@firmansyahwibowo
@firmansyahwibowo 3 ай бұрын
Alhamdulillah
@PutraRhm
@PutraRhm 3 ай бұрын
Lucu jga ya. mau posisi apa aja pasti ketemu klo waktunya sholat, gk ada tingkat kuasa dalam sana wowkwkkw
@mohdfakrus7169
@mohdfakrus7169 4 ай бұрын
Not only Indonesia,malaysia also will join Indonesia against EU capitalists
@shadowmod3
@shadowmod3 4 ай бұрын
Well, u either be a capitalist with the West or you can be a communist with China. The CCP wants to rule over your resources anyway and u guys are already buying their buy and throw away products.
@pulohhan5455
@pulohhan5455 4 ай бұрын
And dont forget about the white DOUBLE STANDART
@5ty717
@5ty717 4 ай бұрын
No capitalists in Malaysia either…
@kevin1294
@kevin1294 4 ай бұрын
Welcome bro…we’ll glad to greet with you with open arms.
@JG-xi4tu
@JG-xi4tu 4 ай бұрын
I like the "capitalist" part in "your environmental protection regulations are very tough for us"🤦🏻‍♂️
@EuroTravChannel
@EuroTravChannel 4 ай бұрын
Recently, DW has interviewed officials from the Philippines and Indonesia. I think this is great! Asean people were from former EU colonies. Asean culture, i.e. South East Asian culture is somewhat different from North East Asia. Asean culture tends to be informal but remembers small things in the past, and their actions are based on track of history.
@VoiceofSarawak
@VoiceofSarawak 4 ай бұрын
Sorry but I think you are wrong SEAsian people have not much concept of history neither is it taught in school. Ask a young Vietnamese who they fought in the Vietnam war and you will be surprised
@paranoya733
@paranoya733 4 ай бұрын
@@VoiceofSarawak That only applies to malaysia & the philippines
@thegrandlord2914
@thegrandlord2914 4 ай бұрын
​@@VoiceofSarawakwe indonesian have strong concept of history and our ideology, constitution and our tradition are based on our historical civilization. Vietnamese don't have strong concept of history because in the past, north vietnam are part of chinese empire while southern vietnam are independent kingdom
@krayondrill
@krayondrill 4 ай бұрын
Remember the Dutch genocide in Indonesia
@lacsarlacsar3566
@lacsarlacsar3566 4 ай бұрын
@@krayondrill Dutch wiped out entire Run Banda island population just to take their nutmegs and cloves.
@MetaView7
@MetaView7 4 ай бұрын
*This is a brilliant man. Indonesia must be proud.*
@sparklemotion8377
@sparklemotion8377 3 ай бұрын
The Netherlands made Indonesia pay for the rebuilding of the Netherlands after WOII. I don't know where the EU gets the audacity to lecture Indonesia.
@semikolondev
@semikolondev Ай бұрын
Don't know where's the audacity of Indonesia either, where they're the 5th country in the world still with slavery
@sparklemotion8377
@sparklemotion8377 Ай бұрын
@semikolondev Of course you're saying this because you care and not just looking for an excuse to justify racism and colonial exploitation.
@danielsolodov4222
@danielsolodov4222 3 ай бұрын
It's good to see another intelligent diplomat. There are fewer and fewer of them in the West sadly...
@gislainelee3181
@gislainelee3181 2 ай бұрын
Sadly yes
@THRSHOP
@THRSHOP 4 ай бұрын
We Indonesians consider Europe as a friend, but Europe does not consider us as a friend, so why should we be loyal to you.. Times have changed without Asia, Europe is nothing.. The wheel of the world is turning and you have to adapt, don't dwell on the past 😇
@stiegelzeine2186
@stiegelzeine2186 3 ай бұрын
It’s not Europeans, it’s capitalists but also we live in a global world, sure Europe is nothing without Asia and so is Asia without Europe, where do you think all the wafers come from? Without many European inventions we would still live in the Stone Age You obviously can’t be far superior to everyone else without colonizing and making others poor because that’s just how the system works
@niemand1072
@niemand1072 3 ай бұрын
Withouth europe indonesia would have never existed
@ScaroMK
@ScaroMK 3 ай бұрын
​​@@niemand1072Didnt you read the comment? Dont dwell on the past
@kaboonali5466
@kaboonali5466 3 ай бұрын
@@niemand1072😂😂 i didn’t know Europeans had the power to create islands and sea and humans
@niemand1072
@niemand1072 3 ай бұрын
@@kaboonali5466 Withouth the dutch, there wouldn't be indonesia, instead there would be hunderds of kingdoms. Indonesia is big and powerfull because the dutch created it
@muhammadyunan2811
@muhammadyunan2811 4 ай бұрын
Indonesia very simple, my product not environment friendly. So come to Indonesia and make it more based on your standard. As simple as that. We are open to investment and new knowledge.
@Vigilant_warrior_08
@Vigilant_warrior_08 4 ай бұрын
Someone here seems to have been brainwashed by the west-leaning media.
@chrisy.228
@chrisy.228 4 ай бұрын
And then they came to Indo and then they saw all the bureaucracy and the illegal extortion here and there😂 It’s not about patriotism in the end it is all about money.
@nafislavigne
@nafislavigne 4 ай бұрын
@@chrisy.228it’s the same everywhere hun. The EU take advantages from developing countries.
@chrisy.228
@chrisy.228 4 ай бұрын
@@nafislavigne elaborate the similarities please. I don’t see EU giving IUP to religious organizations…
@suasanakota6219
@suasanakota6219 4 ай бұрын
​@@chrisy.228I think we have a simpler beurocracy then the Germans.
@davaamri
@davaamri 3 ай бұрын
well mannered and well spoken ambassador of indonesia
@eibenstr3
@eibenstr3 4 ай бұрын
EU is not wrong to be worried about climate change from deforestation. The way they are going about it is the issue. What Indonesia (and Asean) is saying is that the EU, after cutting down large swaths of their own primary forest, is trying to tell other countries not to do the same - not forgetting that the EU is a major contributor to climate change the past hundred plus years. And the ambassador did point out that the EUDR was unbalanced by being harsh on palm oil while being lax on rapeseed oil.
@Ramli_K
@Ramli_K 4 ай бұрын
Indonesia is also not wrong by banning raw materials exported where it wants to export high value processed raw material. in business, you can't force other party to follow your rule.
@krisnaagungmurti5756
@krisnaagungmurti5756 4 ай бұрын
So just don't but our nickel. So sinple. Don't bring it to WTO. We can manage itself. You don't wanna our palm oil, okay, so same as our nickel and other natural resources. And stop using other natural resources from develop ping country too
@hopeintruth5119
@hopeintruth5119 4 ай бұрын
Tbh, it's not completely the same. There is different political forces trying to push green policies and others that just want business. Sometimes compromise happens, and it may look hypocritical from a far. EU has the right to trade and let other know their standards just like everyone else should
@pesmobile-lh5fs
@pesmobile-lh5fs 4 ай бұрын
​@@hopeintruth5119ramah lingkungan itu hanya omong kosong untuk membuat murah harga barang dipasaran, seperti batu baru,minyak sekarang masih banyak yg mengkonsumsi dan membeli
@JohnDoe-ug3su
@JohnDoe-ug3su 4 ай бұрын
@@hopeintruth5119 and Indonesia has the right to not sell a certain type of product.
@harukrentz435
@harukrentz435 4 ай бұрын
Well don't complain if we prefer to do more trades with China, India, and Russia.
@alicejyi4705
@alicejyi4705 4 ай бұрын
EU just blocked China almost on everything after Russia. Eu will have to trade with itself or his big brother USA.
@Abdulhusain-t5g
@Abdulhusain-t5g 4 ай бұрын
They hate this if Indonesia do so 😂
@epicgamescene9273
@epicgamescene9273 4 ай бұрын
Right? I mean every country wants nickel
@Yusef-uh4wl
@Yusef-uh4wl 4 ай бұрын
EU will trade w china russia india so ukraine can lose badly
@casioak1683
@casioak1683 4 ай бұрын
Plus China last year protested bauxite of Indonesia to WTO and was caught smuggling 5 million tons of nickel from Southeastern Sulawesi to mainland China.. that was the amount caught by our Custom Officers. There should be more than that.
@carmelovirgiliolim2984
@carmelovirgiliolim2984 3 ай бұрын
Respects to Indonesian government for protecting their small farmers and local businessmen against imperialism.
@rassicsiddik7439
@rassicsiddik7439 3 ай бұрын
Huh? Protecting small farmers.??? Dude, it's anything but that. Agricultures industries in Indonesia are controlled by the rich.
@carmelovirgiliolim2984
@carmelovirgiliolim2984 3 ай бұрын
@@rassicsiddik7439 They are all Indonesians - rich or small. Why must Indonesia permit foreign companies to control their agriculture? That is a basic industry that must remain in the hands of the nationals.
@rassicsiddik7439
@rassicsiddik7439 3 ай бұрын
@@carmelovirgiliolim2984 you really don't get what I'm saying huh..? And btw I agree with you about EU imperialism.
@carmelovirgiliolim2984
@carmelovirgiliolim2984 3 ай бұрын
@@rassicsiddik7439 Let us leave the resolution of rich and small farmers to the Indonesian government. Let us trust that they will travel their path to egalitarianism based on their culture and values.
@meeveryday123
@meeveryday123 2 ай бұрын
That's truth, you're smart dude. Thanks
@actorneno
@actorneno 4 ай бұрын
Good Job Indonesia no more colonizers, stop neocolonialism !!!
@Blodhelm
@Blodhelm 4 ай бұрын
LOL he's there begging the EU to buy from Indonesia instead of Chile.
@joMan1060
@joMan1060 4 ай бұрын
@@Blodhelm no, he is not.... he wants EU to respect other countries. not being hypocrite.
@raquetdude
@raquetdude 4 ай бұрын
Get Indonesia out of Papua! If Indonesia is anti colonial stop being imperialistic in Papua
@truthboom
@truthboom 4 ай бұрын
yep they should remove islam as it's part of the neocolonialism too
@MSDGroup-ez6zk
@MSDGroup-ez6zk 4 ай бұрын
@@raquetdude LOL who bribed all Indonesia parliament members just to get a right to mine Papua until you see a hole in another side of the world? USA. Who poured toxic tailing waste to Sentani lake in order to rise ROI for the mining company's shareholding? the USA. Who agreed about the result of Papera? the USA
@stephanieraihana5704
@stephanieraihana5704 4 ай бұрын
It's not colonialism, just imperialism ! Wow great quote ❤
@MakIyen
@MakIyen 4 ай бұрын
Different. Colonialism.. they rob d whole country like Dutch did to us fir 350 years 😊
@erialbar
@erialbar 4 ай бұрын
Meanwhile EU support israehell
@nanashipersonne4151
@nanashipersonne4151 4 ай бұрын
I feel like it is just spreading misinformation, if you take a politician‘s tweet and just take it for granted without fact checking. Which time period is he talking about? How do you define mature forests? Also there are different trees that save differing amounts of CO2 and last time I checked the Economist wrote that the forests are coming back in Europe. I do not need to go and protest if the surface of forests are growing. In my country I hope I would have noticed the forests disappearing more. If it happened over the last two decades.
@JayCarlz-sj2xp
@JayCarlz-sj2xp 4 ай бұрын
​@@nanashipersonne4151Where are you from?? And where is your proof??
@thatguywhois
@thatguywhois 4 ай бұрын
@@JeffPar50 interesting, I wonder why the rule was put in place?
@ralfdeutsch5770
@ralfdeutsch5770 4 ай бұрын
Well done Indonesia. Stay firm and defend your interests against the EU. Your ambassador to Germany comes across as a smart diplomat who suggests a way beneficial for both sides without loosing sight of his countries interests.
@thijmstickman8349
@thijmstickman8349 3 ай бұрын
I do whish he didn't lie about the 2.2 Mha. As regards the situation of forests within the Union, the State of Europe's Forests 2020 report states that, between 1990 and 2020, the area of forests in Europe has increased by 9 %, carbon stored in the biomass has grown by 50 % and wood supply has risen by 40 %. (segments from the EU law) From 2001 to 2023, Indonesia lost 30.8 Mha of tree cover, equivalent to a 19% decrease in tree cover since 2000, and 22.2 Gt of C0e emissions. (Global forest watch) l agree Indonesia has the right to only export processed Nickel, and the deforestation regulation may need to be amended to not disproportionately impact small farmers, but the EU has every right and reason to limit its import of products which cause deforestation.
@ralfdeutsch5770
@ralfdeutsch5770 3 ай бұрын
@@thijmstickman8349 Do you believe that the EU´s concern is the Indonesian rain forest? Nothing can make me believe that, not for a moment. Which EU country fulfills its climate obligation according to international agreements? I think their concern is profits for their own nickel processing industries. They see Indonesia as a competitor and do not like it.
@dread69420
@dread69420 3 ай бұрын
This guy knows whats going on and isn't afraid to speak up 😂
@thijmstickman8349
@thijmstickman8349 2 ай бұрын
As regards the situation of forests within the Union, the State of Europe’s Forests 2020 report states that, between 1990 and 2020, the area of forests in Europe has increased by 9 %, carbon stored in the biomass has grown by 50 % and wood supply has risen by 40 %. (segments from the EU law) From 2001 to 2023, Indonesia lost 30.8 Mha of tree cover, equivalent to a 19% decrease in tree cover since 2000, and 22.2 Gt of CO₂e emissions. (Global forest watch) I looked up the 2.2 Mha claim and only found sources verifying the EU laws claim, normally I wouldn't assume it was a lie, but it was said by a politician on twitter. I agree Indonesia has the right to only export processed Nickel, and the deforestation regulation may need to be amended to not disproportionately impact small farmers. The EU owes a debt due to colonization they should repay by helping Indonesia in develop its economy, but the EU has every right and reason to limit its import of products which cause deforestation.
@laillosidgar
@laillosidgar 2 ай бұрын
@@thijmstickman8349 why you cares with our forest, but not our economic development? If you cares the tree, you should help the people develop enough resource to not cut our trees? Typical western hypocritical way of thinking.
@thijmstickman8349
@thijmstickman8349 2 ай бұрын
@@laillosidgar Yes I agree, we should help your economy develop. We should help you build your own nickle processing industry. We care about your forests because the earth is a global system, environmental degradation effects our entire ecosystem. I'm not on the EUs side necessarily, I think the Netherlands should be paying reparations, but when you all use a lot of lies to argue your point I have to point them out.
@laillosidgar
@laillosidgar 2 ай бұрын
@@thijmstickman8349 Quote from source 3 : Many of the EU’s forests - which account for about 38% of its land surface area - are managed for timber production, and thus harvested regularly. But the loss of biomass increased by 69% in the period from 2016 to 2018, compared with the period from 2011 to 2015, according to satellite data. The area of forest harvested increased by 49% in the same comparison, published in the journal Nature Research. This indicates that much more harvesting has occurred in a short period, even accounting for natural cycles and the impact of events such as forest fires and heavy snows. The harvested area could be expected to vary by less than about 10% owing to cycles of growing and planting, and similar effects, according to Guido Ceccherini of the EU Joint Research Centre, lead author of the study. Other factors are therefore likely to be in play, and these could include increased demand for wood as a fuel, and bigger markets for timber and other wood products. The satellite data could therefore be an early indicator of unsustainable demands being placed on the EU’s forests. EDIT : spamming comment aside, where do you get your number, I was just googling and deforestation rate are increasing in EU are in my first page.
@GerardPedrico
@GerardPedrico 4 ай бұрын
Indonesia is making progress in EV based public transportation. That is something to be proud of. The EV revolution is supposed to be about the EV public transportation revolution. 🙏🙏
@inxiousinx7993
@inxiousinx7993 4 ай бұрын
As the ambassador said, He asked if EU was ready. I Love it. No fear and with full confidence. Shows how a non-alignment country should proudly hold their dignity.
@thijmstickman8349
@thijmstickman8349 3 ай бұрын
He did lie about the 2.2Mha. As regards the situation of forests within the Union, the State of Europe's Forests 2020 report states that, between 1990 and 2020, the area of forests in Europe has increased by 9 %, carbon stored in the biomass has grown by 50 % and wood supply has risen by 40 %. (segments from the EU law) From 2001 to 2023, Indonesia lost 30.8 Mha of tree cover, equivalent to a 19% decrease in tree cover since 2000, and 22.2 Gt of C0,e emissions. (Global forest watch) I looked up the 2.2 Mha claim and only found sources verifying the EU laws claim, since Natura 2000 there has been basically no deforestation in europe.
@xakushonx8798
@xakushonx8798 3 ай бұрын
The EU's import restrictions on Indonesian palm oil are allowed under the WTO rules, but Indonesia's restriction on nickel exports is not. It is as simple as that. WTO is already set up to give developing nations massive trade advantages in the form of lower tariffs. Indonesia joined the WTO what gave them massiv advantages so they have to follow the rules or leave it and loose their priviliges. They cant chery pick, its that simple so stop your victim mentality. Also it causes heavy deforstation and they can decide what the buy.
@davidclerihew3539
@davidclerihew3539 3 ай бұрын
It’s good to see countries like Indonesia standing up to the EU (& hopefully the US). For over a century we in the West have been exploiting places like Indonesia & India to keep our people rich whilst holding down the development of these countries. If the EU don’t like Indonesian products/standards then I’m sure China will purchase it instead.
@jacques.cousteau
@jacques.cousteau 2 ай бұрын
@@davidclerihew3539 bot detected, opinion rejected
@denniswen8483
@denniswen8483 2 ай бұрын
​​@@jacques.cousteau your colonialism era is over. Deal and cope with it.
@josh12823
@josh12823 2 ай бұрын
one time in restaurant buyer:hey i want to buy raw beef seller:we dont sell it buyer:i will report you to cops 😂😂😂
@alien432hz9
@alien432hz9 4 ай бұрын
Europe always had new ways to try to "colonize" Indonesia.
@judebrianlardera
@judebrianlardera 4 ай бұрын
It's a shame Prabrowo was never arrested by the ICC because he went to East Timor and orchestrated the genocide in East Timor. If he were, Indonesians would protest against the ICC for neo-colonialism while praising it for issuing an arrest warrant on Israel for genocide.
@StrikeBolteafc
@StrikeBolteafc 4 ай бұрын
How is it colonising? I didn’t know Indonesia is under occupation by the eu and having no control over anything
@azmanabas8425
@azmanabas8425 4 ай бұрын
Not only Indonesia.. Africa and middle east too.
@BayuAH
@BayuAH 4 ай бұрын
StrikeBolteafc: Dude, learn history. Indonesia was colonized by Dutch, Portuguese, Spanish, English, and indirectly French. Although those just briefly, except Dutch.
@MakIyen
@MakIyen 4 ай бұрын
​@@judebrianlarderago get ur new medicine dude. Prabowo is our next leader ❤
@lingth
@lingth 4 ай бұрын
Maybe Indonesian should just ban all its products to EU and let them buy from more expensive country.. the Nickel and such
@Kvasiir
@Kvasiir 4 ай бұрын
That wouldn’t help Indonesia, they need the $ 😂
@TheAnonymousKnightOfJustice
@TheAnonymousKnightOfJustice 4 ай бұрын
​@@Kvasiir in exchange you're technology transition will slow😂 and other more nicer nations will develop it😂. You don't realise how many educated people available ARE NOT YOU LOL😂
@Kvasiir
@Kvasiir 4 ай бұрын
@@TheAnonymousKnightOfJustice plenty of other 3world counties can supply EU with what they need. Keep coping 😍❤️
@fian92
@fian92 4 ай бұрын
​@@Kvasiirsure, then stop sue-ing Indonesia to WTO, just get over it and ask other 3world countries then, we'll see who will laugh in the end lol
@Aussie-Mocha
@Aussie-Mocha 4 ай бұрын
@@fian92 Aaah! The good old geopolitics of capitalism. Look at my silly country. Australia exports 3x more natural gas than Qatar and yet , Qatar taxes their exports almost 7x more. Rich people don’t want to do things by the book. They are happy to “appear” they are legit but they absolutely are not. Doesn’t matter what side of the pig pond you are on. They are all the same.
@silvercat3243
@silvercat3243 4 ай бұрын
The push back will not only come from Indonesia. You'll see.
@roughysk9851
@roughysk9851 4 ай бұрын
The tables will be turned
@damirkozlica1709
@damirkozlica1709 3 ай бұрын
Indonesia does not need "rules" from the genocide enablers.
@jesperburns
@jesperburns 3 ай бұрын
What does China have to do with this?
@FragLord
@FragLord 3 ай бұрын
What does Russia have to do with this?
@Blahblahblah_420
@Blahblahblah_420 3 ай бұрын
Wait, Indonesia is itself part of the club Hint: East Timor
@Freedmoon44
@Freedmoon44 3 ай бұрын
Says the one that also enabled a genocide, dont put all the worlds evil on one place, he whole world sucks no need for foreigners to reach that conclusion
@worlds3061
@worlds3061 3 ай бұрын
​@@Blahblahblah_420Literally 30 years ago and under a dictatorship. Try again
@stephanieraihana5704
@stephanieraihana5704 4 ай бұрын
Proud of indonesian gov step ❤👍
@TheBuburbayi
@TheBuburbayi 4 ай бұрын
…it’s not colonialism, it’s just imperialism…😂😂😂
@NetiHidayat-pi6cm
@NetiHidayat-pi6cm 4 ай бұрын
Sama saja dengan mengatakan dudu asu ning kirik😅😅😅
@abcddef2112
@abcddef2112 4 ай бұрын
But colonial attitude
@gehemehe6056
@gehemehe6056 4 ай бұрын
Itulah baru nangkep klo imperial/kerjaan gitu suka nagih upeti kek preman njirr
@TitouFromMars
@TitouFromMars 4 ай бұрын
No. It's called sovereignty. The EU has the right to define what may or may not come onto its soil. Just as Indonesia has that right. The rest is a matter of trade negotiations.
@Aru_im
@Aru_im 4 ай бұрын
@@TitouFromMars it's no longer a negotiation if the other party is asking their authority relatives to help them profit rather than raising their stakes/offer.
@DocumentaryOceana
@DocumentaryOceana 4 ай бұрын
Indonesia is on the right path
@xakushonx8798
@xakushonx8798 3 ай бұрын
The EU's import restrictions on Indonesian palm oil are allowed under the WTO rules, but Indonesia's restriction on nickel exports is not. It is as simple as that. WTO is already set up to give developing nations massive trade advantages in the form of lower tariffs. Indonesia joined the WTO what gave them massiv advantages so they have to follow the rules or leave it and loose their priviliges. They cant chery pick, its that simple so stop your victim mentality. Also it causes heavy deforstation and they can decide what the buy.
@georgehoffmann4148
@georgehoffmann4148 4 ай бұрын
By far the best piece of journalism I have seen on YT in years. Significant questions, asked in a respectful and polite way and than let the other person give his answers, respecting their point of view, independent of if you share it. Bravo! Please more of it. Even or maybe especially with representatives of states we might not always see eye to eye (just to make it clear, I don’t think Indonesia is one of those). Listening is the gateway to understanding. Understanding is the way to compromise. Only in compromise we can find real solutions.
@thijmstickman8349
@thijmstickman8349 3 ай бұрын
I do wish the interviewer pointed out the 2.2Mha lie. As regards the situation of forests within the Union, the State of Europe's Forests 2020 report states that, between 1990 and 2020, the area of forests in Europe has increased by 9 %, carbon stored in the biomass has grown by 50 % and wood supply has risen by 40 %. (segments from the EU law) From 2001 to 2023, Indonesia lost 30.8 Mha of tree cover, equivalent to a 19% decrease in tree cover since 2000, and 22.2 Gt of C0,e emissions. (Global forest watch) I looked up the 2.2 Mha claim and only found sources verifying the EU laws claim, since Natura 2000 there has been basically no deforestation in europe.
@yx-l2853
@yx-l2853 4 ай бұрын
Pak Dubes, I applaud your frankness in the interview. Your message came across in no uncertain terms about Indonesia's perspective.
@rimaskautsar4058
@rimaskautsar4058 4 ай бұрын
Ah those hippocrisy, yes we Indonesian know well about that...
@langelodendeng
@langelodendeng 4 ай бұрын
Very brave stance by Indonesia. Bravo to you 👍🏻
@xakushonx8798
@xakushonx8798 3 ай бұрын
No its not. The EU's import restrictions on Indonesian palm oil are allowed under the WTO rules, but Indonesia's restriction on nickel exports is not. It is as simple as that. WTO is already set up to give developing nations massive trade advantages in the form of lower tariffs. Indonesia joined the WTO what gave them massiv advantages so they have to follow the rules or leave it and loose their priviliges. They cant chery pick, its that simple so stop your victim mentality. Also it causes heavy deforstation and they can decide what the buy.
@hasithakumarasiri8343
@hasithakumarasiri8343 3 ай бұрын
indonesia .. blessed to have this kind of intellectuals as their ambassador.
@hikashia.halfiah3582
@hikashia.halfiah3582 4 ай бұрын
Mr Ambassador usage of "help" here might be misunderstood here. We don't mean "help" as in aid and assistance, but "help" as in collaboration "you help scratch my back, I help scratch yours" kind of thing.
@apriliahussna4561
@apriliahussna4561 4 ай бұрын
"Help" and "assist" can be similar in meaning in Indonesian. ("Help" seems to what comes to mind first when we think of the English word that more closely means "assist") The ambassador certainly did not mean the word "help" as someone inferior needing help over other superior people. We also certainly don't need to be lectured by an organization trying to be a moral police
@MaxTargin0
@MaxTargin0 4 ай бұрын
You go Indonesia 🇮🇩💪🏻 🇧🇷❤
@xakushonx8798
@xakushonx8798 3 ай бұрын
The EU's import restrictions on Indonesian palm oil are allowed under the WTO rules, but Indonesia's restriction on nickel exports is not. It is as simple as that. WTO is already set up to give developing nations massive trade advantages in the form of lower tariffs. Indonesia joined the WTO what gave them massiv advantages so they have to follow the rules or leave it and loose their priviliges. They cant chery pick, its that simple so stop your victim mentality. Also it causes heavy deforstation and they can decide what the buy.
@whartanto2
@whartanto2 4 ай бұрын
EU produces 2.5 Gigaton of CO2 per year. Indonesia produces 0.5 Gigaton per year. EU is addicted to Russian Oil because they need it for heating during winter. Indonesia does not have winters and consume per capita much smaller amount of energy than any developed nation and thus produce much smaller carbon footprint. But of course, EU is the good guys in the fight against climate change...
@brunoheggli2888
@brunoheggli2888 4 ай бұрын
We dont need Russian oil!
@MSDGroup-ez6zk
@MSDGroup-ez6zk 4 ай бұрын
who needs the western nowadays if their population is only 1 billion?
@BonaBW
@BonaBW 4 ай бұрын
hahaanyingg menyala abangqu
@marco21274
@marco21274 4 ай бұрын
Oil is not widely used for heating but for driving.
@nurlindafsihotang49
@nurlindafsihotang49 4 ай бұрын
Yup, and the european accuses us as the world's pollutors. B , please!!!!
@jayclark8284
@jayclark8284 2 ай бұрын
I'm so proud of this guy representing Indonesia! Matur suksme from Bali Bapak🙏🙏
@muezzagaming1
@muezzagaming1 4 ай бұрын
Bro EU is shaking in the hand of Indonesia man.... last time Indonesia band coal for a few weeks, and that make South Korea Electricity crumble
@lzh4950
@lzh4950 3 ай бұрын
Indonesia also banned sand exports for a while, causing concrete to become more expensive in Singapore, so for a while I heard that it built apartment buildings with steel instead of reinforced concrete
@xakushonx8798
@xakushonx8798 3 ай бұрын
The EU's import restrictions on Indonesian palm oil are allowed under the WTO rules, but Indonesia's restriction on nickel exports is not. It is as simple as that. WTO is already set up to give developing nations massive trade advantages in the form of lower tariffs. Indonesia joined the WTO what gave them massiv advantages so they have to follow the rules or leave it and loose their priviliges. They cant chery pick, its that simple so stop your victim mentality. Also it causes heavy deforstation and they can decide what the buy.
@muezzagaming1
@muezzagaming1 3 ай бұрын
Victim mentality, Indonesia has long been a victim. and now Indonesia is slowly starting to become smarter and starting to develop and become independent, which is what makes western countries nervous. So far Indonesia has only been asked to export raw goods, but now they are forcing other countries to set up factories in Indonesia which European countries are trying to refuse, even though other Asian countries want to set up factories in Indonesia. western countries are still trying to monopolize Indonesia's resources, they are trying making Indonesia destroy and deplete their own natural resources while western countries reap the benefits, then after that they blame Indonesia for destroying nature, with their go green thing which they themselves don't care about
@muezzagaming1
@muezzagaming1 3 ай бұрын
@@xakushonx8798 and you also know that WTO regulations are actually more beneficial to European countries
@NessieNice
@NessieNice 3 ай бұрын
@@xakushonx8798 yeah, but WTO whined when Indonesia talked about leaving
@blood_ackerman6190
@blood_ackerman6190 4 ай бұрын
Europe is history, America is now, Asia is future.
@Teuwufel
@Teuwufel 4 ай бұрын
What does that mean other than trying to sound intellectual?
@mygame5347
@mygame5347 4 ай бұрын
European countries think that they are the highest race in the world, so everybody that out of them need to service with the best service that slave can do.. You can not order this world for everything that you need, every county in this world has the same right, has the same freedom..... This age is not Neo Colonial Era..... They are free to do everything for their nature product, minerals, they want to sell it to you or not, it is up to them..........
@santostv.
@santostv. 4 ай бұрын
Asia is the future only if western money allows it. How sk,Japan ect and now china got rich?
@christinemurray1444
@christinemurray1444 4 ай бұрын
Asia is in denial of Chinese imperialism. Meet the new boss.
@rachelandriani484
@rachelandriani484 4 ай бұрын
​@@christinemurray1444exactly
@lockercoin3693
@lockercoin3693 4 ай бұрын
im with indonesia this time.
@weihe2466
@weihe2466 3 ай бұрын
作为中国人,第一次因为这个大使,让我重新认识印尼,原来只知道佐科。
@RopekingRopethemall
@RopekingRopethemall 4 ай бұрын
🇳🇱♥️🇮🇩 we houden van jullie Indonesië blijf sterk 💪
@sitinowak
@sitinowak Ай бұрын
Dank U wel.
@amaliaameel
@amaliaameel 4 ай бұрын
We have the right to process our raw materials and prioritise our people’s well being. By doing this, we provide job opportunities to our people. We are a developing country, we are thriving and rooting for people on the street, people in absolute poverty, people that even to eat 3 spoons of rice need to work for the whole day. When we are responsible for our own people, then we are stepping out to become a developed country. But don’t ever force or threaten us to sacrifice our people for the sake of the already developed, wealthy countries who feel “victimised” by our policy. 😊
@xakushonx8798
@xakushonx8798 3 ай бұрын
The EU's import restrictions on Indonesian palm oil are allowed under the WTO rules, but Indonesia's restriction on nickel exports is not. It is as simple as that. WTO is already set up to give developing nations massive trade advantages in the form of lower tariffs. Indonesia joined the WTO what gave them massiv advantages so they have to follow the rules or leave it and loose their priviliges. They cant chery pick, its that simple so stop your victim mentality. Also it causes heavy deforstation and they can decide what the buy.
@sitinowak
@sitinowak Ай бұрын
Thank you, well said.
@namaste168
@namaste168 4 ай бұрын
this ambassador is well informed, they should make him a trade minister.
@hills863
@hills863 4 ай бұрын
Nope, since he do his job greatly in europe we need expert like him to stay in this bussiness, he will help us diplomatically because he knows how to work with and against this people. European known for their hypocrisy and always think all must follow their rules. We need expert like Mr Ambassador there
@Neuronjake
@Neuronjake 4 ай бұрын
So many briliant in indonesia,so dont worry😅
@JajaborMusic
@JajaborMusic 3 ай бұрын
The reporter is owned by the diplomat.. well done.
@albertoscar6539
@albertoscar6539 4 ай бұрын
Very Strong yet humble message, thanks Mr. Ambassador 🙏🏻
@kishfoo
@kishfoo 4 ай бұрын
Every country wants to be as self-reliant as possible and have bigger exports than imports. Farming is a huge issue as growing populations will need more food, which will either result in more foreign reliance or destroy the environment. The three most essential commodities that could be used to flex trade demands are water, food, and energy for extremely cold environments. But, throttling a population from growing reduces economic output. Europe has expanses of farmlands and meadows, plenty of water, and an overflow of clean energy. U.S. exports the most food.
@MSDGroup-ez6zk
@MSDGroup-ez6zk 4 ай бұрын
@Booz2020 When European and Americans concern about Environment, I cannot stop LOL. Thanks to petrodollar, there are 1.4 billion cars nowadays compared 200 million in 1970 when Petrodollar was signed in. If each ICE car passenger produce 192 gram CO2 and every car has 2 passenger, thus a day there will be 2x192x1.4 billion = 537 billion gram of CO2 that people breath in. That's only cars. To increase the sale in oil, USA and Europeans sell cheap cars, commercial jets, trains, plastics etc. Now Europeans are talking about environment. What a joke!
@MSDGroup-ez6zk
@MSDGroup-ez6zk 4 ай бұрын
@Booz2020 Bro try to live in Indonesia, NZ, pacific islands etc. Every new car the Europe makes or the delay of environment friendly policies will shrink those countries faster than before. Nowadays all insurance companies don't want to accept money from people who have houses near the sea to insure their houses.
@MSDGroup-ez6zk
@MSDGroup-ez6zk 4 ай бұрын
@Booz2020 Well Indonesia has formally many times asked Elon to invest his Tesla. So don't blame Indonesia to find a new friend.
@whanua98
@whanua98 4 ай бұрын
@Booz2020 nobody says that, we have tourism issue in bali
@xakushonx8798
@xakushonx8798 3 ай бұрын
The EU's import restrictions on Indonesian palm oil are allowed under the WTO rules, but Indonesia's restriction on nickel exports is not. It is as simple as that. WTO is already set up to give developing nations massive trade advantages in the form of lower tariffs. Indonesia joined the WTO what gave them massiv advantages so they have to follow the rules or leave it and loose their priviliges. They cant chery pick, its that simple so stop your victim mentality. Also it causes heavy deforstation and they can decide what the buy.
@deb8094
@deb8094 4 ай бұрын
Way to go Indonesia.
@mernu2003
@mernu2003 2 ай бұрын
An ambassador equipped with knowledge and communication skill
@bWin6768
@bWin6768 4 ай бұрын
Mantab Yang Mulia pak Dutabesar, kita bangga dengan jawaban Bapak. Hidup Indonesia, bagi kami rakyat jelata: wright or wrong, my country.
@varenaurigayurioshi4836
@varenaurigayurioshi4836 4 ай бұрын
Standar Ganda, Rasis, Tamak, bermuka dua, dan senang memberi kuliah pada negara negara berkembang. Itulah kelebihan UE yang mendunia. 😂
@kosim.abiaziyz
@kosim.abiaziyz 4 ай бұрын
The unchangeable character of Europe: imperialist and hypocritical
@itsmesoleh06
@itsmesoleh06 4 ай бұрын
Munafik ye kan 😂 mau nikel sampe segitunya butuh tapi seakan2 kita yang butuh
@kiaa1229
@kiaa1229 4 ай бұрын
I'll stand with indonesian on this matter
@NaqibMohamad
@NaqibMohamad 3 ай бұрын
tell them Indonesia! tell them!
@Nauda999
@Nauda999 4 ай бұрын
EU rules in Indonesia? Isn't Ursula trying to reach a bit too far?
@putra4101
@putra4101 4 ай бұрын
That's why he calls it Imperialism.... old habits hard to die.
@jagodiving
@jagodiving 4 ай бұрын
in coming years, if EU don't change the imperialism habit, they will leaved by the rest of the world
@deadaeninixxx
@deadaeninixxx 4 ай бұрын
its not colonial era while our country fight invade each other 'divide de impera' strategy maybe succes that time . this is modern era . eu can try being imperial mindset again and see what happen while they try to do that in Asia especialy in south east asia , big country like china india indonesia is not you hope to be your enemy in future
@liepsan
@liepsan 4 ай бұрын
@@deadaeninixxx And yet this is what is happening the last 15 to 20 years. Now ASEAN (including India) countries are trying to replace China as a manufacturing hub and all the struggles are a part of it.
@Arch-Propagandist-Sage
@Arch-Propagandist-Sage 4 ай бұрын
​@@liepsanwell it's an investment not charity,both sides benifit from each other.
@yaoliang1580
@yaoliang1580 4 ай бұрын
The EU ban Indonesia palm oil bcos they say its not environmental friendly but they also want to ban China's EVs and other green technologies bcos they are very environmental friendly. Like their US master, this is European lies and double standards at its finest display
@sayfolman7752
@sayfolman7752 4 ай бұрын
They Don't Banned China EV But Put 100,% Tarif That Mean If EV Car Price $10000 They Have To Pay $100000,Common Trick When They Cannot Compete We Put Rule, Regulation,Sanction,And Caatsa In Late 1980 Malaysia Car Brand Almost Dominated EU Market Especially UK It Cheap Reliable Because It Was Build With Assistance From Japanese Manufacture Mitsubishi,Toyota,Daihatsu, Then They Introduce Euro1,2,3,4,5,6 Standard Regulation Today Malaysia Make Collaboration With China Car Manufacture,Geely
@solmak47
@solmak47 4 ай бұрын
You have no idea what you are talking about. First of all they didn’t ban Chinese EV’s but they’ve put a tariff. And that is because they are funded by the Chinese government. This created unfair competition since Western factories do not receive any money and help from governments because it’s considered illegal. By doing so, China tried on purpose to damage the EU’s car industry and EU didn’t let them. Read some news before you talk.
@jomogo4644
@jomogo4644 4 ай бұрын
They want to ban China's EVs because they are not safe and make them uncompetitive to destroy the market in EU and US so that they can jack up the price, and we are dependent on them. That is what we are trying to avoid.
@Taschenrechner1337
@Taschenrechner1337 4 ай бұрын
The EU hikes high tariffs on Chinese EVs and others because China is massively subsidizing those industries. I can't see how this constitutes a lie or double standard, though your comment is certainly a lie.
@xakushonx8798
@xakushonx8798 3 ай бұрын
What are you talking about they didnt bany any tech bc it environmetal friendly, how is your econemy going xD?
@Mehimehi26
@Mehimehi26 4 ай бұрын
Well done Pak!! Im really proud of you.. 👍 this kind of imperialism done by EU same kind of making big companies funded by EU crush small farmer just like VOC or UK done on maluku dan banda in the past
@thomasmichaelschwarz9741
@thomasmichaelschwarz9741 2 ай бұрын
Smart guy! Hope to see him one day as president of Indonesia.
@XoPlanetI
@XoPlanetI 2 ай бұрын
"Europe should come out of the mindset that Europe's problems are the world's problems, but the world's problems are not Europe's problems." - Dr S JaiShankar, Foreign Minister of India
@Elegant-Capybara
@Elegant-Capybara 4 ай бұрын
It's like the difference between exporting raw cotton vs exporting finished clothing, the value add of processed nickel is much more than the raw ore, and they're entitled to benefit from their natural resources to the largest extent. The EU should decide if it's worth it to them or if they'll turn to China, which likewise has bans on export of raw ore.
@randomuruk7230
@randomuruk7230 4 ай бұрын
Why doesn't Indonesia just leave the WTO if they don't want to follow rules ad regulations.
@Vendetta_M79
@Vendetta_M79 4 ай бұрын
​@@randomuruk7230 the same can be said about EU
@randomuruk7230
@randomuruk7230 4 ай бұрын
@@Vendetta_M79 what rules and regulations have they broken in relation to the wto?
@lVideoWatcherl
@lVideoWatcherl 3 ай бұрын
@Putrarona7901 I would also like to ask what WTO rules were broken by EU action.
@lVideoWatcherl
@lVideoWatcherl 3 ай бұрын
I tend to agree, ans country with natural ressources should strive to define those on their own soil, isn't there even a name for countries whi just exploit raw natural ressources without refining them, which they then have to buy back more expensive? The Dutch model or something? However, that being said, the EU is also very much in its right to dictate which econimic practices it, internally, wants to support. And it is long since time in fact, that the countries heavily consuming products take respnsinility for the way those products are made. Yes, even if that means that the producers have to change their business to accomodate that, _if_ they continue to want to sell into that market.
@thomasthomasphilp4393
@thomasthomasphilp4393 Ай бұрын
I love his question, "Are you ready?"
@andresusanto7163
@andresusanto7163 4 ай бұрын
Basically, the Indonesia told EU: do not lecture us. We are equal partners. We can sell our resources to whoever we want with the global market price as a benchmark!
@lVideoWatcherl
@lVideoWatcherl 3 ай бұрын
But they aren't equal. The Brussels effect is real, and another real fact is that many developing countries don't consider environmentalist policies to be important - when some of these countries will likely be hit pretty badly if man-made climate change isn't tackled. Of course, in fact allowing Indonesia to process their own nickle in their country and export it is reasonable also. But still the EU can and should impose regulations on supply chains, because we know that there are countries that do not care about how stuff is produced, and several international corporations exploit these lax rules to improve their bottom line with terribly immoral business practices.
@deusexh7751
@deusexh7751 3 ай бұрын
​@@lVideoWatcherl yet lecturing doesn’t stop
@lVideoWatcherl
@lVideoWatcherl 3 ай бұрын
@@deusexh7751 Would you rather actors that possess political power _don't_ assume political responsibility where they can?
@deusexh7751
@deusexh7751 3 ай бұрын
@@lVideoWatcherl you know i don't mean to offend you if you are from any EU countries but the real problem is EU lost It's influence and respect over the world because of It's hypocritical behaviour and EU leaders are gravely responsible for that. Sanctions on smaller developing countries and stopping their growth in the name of tackling climate change will only make it worse. EU countries had their industrial revolution they have damaged the earth more than these developing countries can do. And tackling climate change is not as easy as people think it is. It would end up destroying a country's economy if we force a country to use green energy.
@lVideoWatcherl
@lVideoWatcherl 3 ай бұрын
@@deusexh7751 The damage EU industrialization has done cannot be undone yet. The only sensible thing to do is reduce that damage, and prevent further damage. Yes, that initially means higher cost both for the industrialized nations who have to reform, but also for industrializing nations who have to re-learn and employ cutting-edge tech instead of run-of-the-mill tech. But _also,_ it is sufficiently proven already that a sustainable economy is far _cheaper_ in the long run. Exactly _because_ climate change brings with it horrendous costs that do have to be paid if you want to or not. Just the loss of productivity through people dieing because of the effects of climate change, be it heat waves, natural catastrophes or even just air pollution (which also contributes to climate change of course, but is also directly responsible for thousands of deaths a year) are very costly for any economy. And no, no country would be 'destroyed' if it were to attempt to use green energy. That is an absurd claim without any foundation. A total transformation of all power production into renewables is very difficult for reasons of fluctuating production, which is why battery technology is so important. But it's not even necessary to produce 100 % renewable energy to severely improve the global climate situation. Lastly, I will add that thinking that the EU or Europe is somehow not still cleanly in the top 3 of most important economic and political powers, Likely even _the_ most important economic regulatory body on the planet, is just deluding yourself. The Brussels effect is real, and EU-law has serious consequences for the entire world. I mean, just the fact that we're talking about Indonesian views on it is telling, right? If you want an example of protectionist policy restricting companies or countries to work the way they want, look towards China and the US. China's economic boom was largely due to international corporations exploiting their cheap labour - which they only made possible via forced joined-ventures, and the result was that tons of industry secrets were stolen/copied, leading to Chinese competitors arising which all have their roots in the know-how of the firms that were forced to co-operate. I have no pity for those firms - they short-sightedly chose to do so by themselves. In the US, the inflation reduction act heavily subsidized certain industries, thereby eliminating just competition. What do you think Taiwan thinks about the US's attempt to make chip production entirely independent from them? The EU, on the other hand, wants to take moral responsibliity for what it did wrong in the past, namely enable unsustainable and unethical businesses. Again, trying to argue that that is somehow wrong seems obviously underhanded and unfair to me. I wonder... what would you advise them to do instead of policing the companies that sell to the EU all the way through the supply chain? Would you feel better or worse knowing no child had to work a 10-hour-day in a smog-ridden city factory to sow your shirt?
@aryakusuma7590
@aryakusuma7590 2 ай бұрын
bangga dengan bapak ambassador yang sudah menjawab pertanyaan serius tapi dijawab dengan tenang dan positif. Untuk perihal perjanjian ini memang membuat bingung, mau barang tapi dipaksa murah padahal sumber daya bukan milik mereka
@patrickdegenaar9495
@patrickdegenaar9495 4 ай бұрын
It actually makes a lot of sense to use the abubdance of cheap solar energy to power heavy smelting locally in Indonesia rather than shipping bulk raw materials around the world and powering smelting with non renewables.
@EkaBachtiarEffendiSitorus
@EkaBachtiarEffendiSitorus 4 ай бұрын
As the statistics, Indonesia are nett import oil country
@ReikiMaulana
@ReikiMaulana 3 ай бұрын
actually i'm kind of curious how is the differ between our method of smelting ores with how companies from Europe does it?
@EkaBachtiarEffendiSitorus
@EkaBachtiarEffendiSitorus 3 ай бұрын
@@ReikiMaulana indo masih pake mesin jadul bahkan tradisional yang suhu furnisnya rendah juga pake borax kualitas rendah sehingga kadar kemurniannya berbeda
@machintrucGaming
@machintrucGaming 3 ай бұрын
@@ReikiMaulana There is some swedish company that claims it can process alluminium in a net-zero way. Not sure about other ores. But if there isn't much difference. Blast furnace is blast furnace. EU ones probably have more processing from their filters. There's also chimney heights regulation to ensure it get dispersed and doesn't fall off in proximity.
@aquinaseries9651
@aquinaseries9651 2 ай бұрын
Proud to have you Sir, Mr. ambassador. You're so bold, brave and honest to tell the truth 👏
@sitinowak
@sitinowak Ай бұрын
Thank you.
@budimargarito989
@budimargarito989 4 ай бұрын
If European country doesn't like Indonesia bussiness trade export than Indonesia will open diplomatic export import with China and Russia , Korea and Japan .
@arsip_ihsankl
@arsip_ihsankl 4 ай бұрын
*then
@avorfm1964
@avorfm1964 4 ай бұрын
Aren’t we already doing that ?
@pritaf.s3637
@pritaf.s3637 4 ай бұрын
​@@avorfm1964 yeah hence why they complained to WTO 😂
@exelrode
@exelrode 4 ай бұрын
Its easier said than done, EU is one of their largest export market . You can't find a substitute that easily and if they could this would not become such a big deal in Indonesia
@danielgintinks1608
@danielgintinks1608 4 ай бұрын
@@exelrode According to the United Nations COMTRADE data on international trade in 2022, Indonesia's top five export destinations are: China: $65.92 billion United States: $28.24 billion Japan: $24.85 billion India: $23.38 billion Malaysia: $15.45 billion European countries only show on the 11th place which is the Netherlands and the rest for the top 10s are ASEAN countries and South Korea. In other words, we can make it without EU.
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@silvipcbi 3 ай бұрын
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