Goku has Instant transmission Kamehameha Ki blasts Mind reading Telekinesis Flight Destructo Disk Solar Flare God bind Dragon Fist Kaioken Spirit Bomb Spirit Ball
@dragfang372310 ай бұрын
Dude Luffy Powers actually more interesting than most of the shonen manga protagonist and are more diverse and actually have uniqueness to them especially with his Gears and Haki
@moon-jc8us10 ай бұрын
Were ben10 bro
@AhmedHussain-ju6xd10 ай бұрын
*hunter x hunter having the most complex power system in anime* gon: *rock, paper, scissor go brrrr*
@erikburzinski824810 ай бұрын
His power has alot of interesting mechanics and uses
@JDWalker49510 ай бұрын
To be fair, he was 10
@TheDON91410 ай бұрын
Trash just like his design 🗑
@Problemsolver43410 ай бұрын
@@erikburzinski8248He still underutilised his potential. All that aura reserves and just jajanken
@DannyWoodrow-il1jr10 ай бұрын
@joshuamawuli434 for an enhancer the more basic the power, the stronger it for example the first phantom troupe member that kuripika killed. Had a move that was just a punch but it hit like a nuke. But he could only get that result if he threw the punch as a straight right. It's kinda like how restrictions make kuripikas abilities stronger. Same with gon when he takes his Stance and says "first comes rock..." that's his ritual to start the attack and it makes it way stronger. Like how Netero prayed before he punched to make it fast as hell
@Geta9210 ай бұрын
I'm not sure I agree with Luffy. He makes extremely good use of being made of rubber which only sounds simple on paper. The ability is extremely complex in practice. The gear techniques have various uses from increasing his size, raising his blood pressure and increasing his bodies elasticity. He also uses every single type of Haki in the series. The only thing he ignores is weapons, but having the main character being better at everything than his companions would be pretty boring.
@justme2215410 ай бұрын
Gotta agree, especially with things like Gear Four letting him fly and change the course of his attacks mid-throw. He has some pretty wild abilities.
@matthew478010 ай бұрын
Makes you wonder if he has actually seen/read One Piece and isn't talking by what he sees at face value.
@Swagjutsusolosfiction10 ай бұрын
@@justme22154maybe he has and he's just talking about how all of Luffy's attack have to do with rubber
@justme2215410 ай бұрын
@@Swagjutsusolosfiction Or how it usually amounts to just physical combat despite the flexible nature of the thing.
@Cloudyowly10 ай бұрын
I might add one piece characters rarely have complex powers, rather strong or lame powers they might use in bad or creative way or are strong themselves
@matthew478010 ай бұрын
The thing with Goku is that is not a MC thing in his series, everyone fights the same, he actually has more variety than his mates.
@Rangerj0410 ай бұрын
Which is not saying much
@asiangirlfanboy10 ай бұрын
Goku used Tien Shinhan's Solar Flare and King Kai's Kaio Ken and Spirit Bomb. Not to mention the Yaardrat's Instant Transmission (I think it's not called that in the Japanese version). Luffy is very fun and creative. I wish Naruto would have at least used as many jutsu as Goku fought with techniques during early and middle parts of Shippuden.
@Antithesismanifest10 ай бұрын
@@asiangirlfanboygoku also have the destructo disk
@rojaedavis836710 ай бұрын
Let's be real. Goku doesn't have an original move in his life. Every skill he has was something he was taught or copied from someone else. The only original move I've seen Goku use is Dragon Fist and even the canonicity of that move is questionable. You'd think for a supposed genius fighter who learned from all sorts of masters that he'd come up with some unique skills moves like Piccolo, Vegeta, Krillin and even fucking Yamcha did.
@JDWalker49510 ай бұрын
Cause he steals their techniques😂 Goku and Luffy got incredibly large arsenals
@beanguy543710 ай бұрын
Seeing as how dygo said “luffy just stretches” I can predict many people will defend luffy
@Blackheart.73510 ай бұрын
Well to be fair Luffy is the most creative out of his example and saying just stretches is a huge understatement
@unreal4good3679 ай бұрын
It's the truth though no matter how salty these people get.
@OBsurdityTV9 ай бұрын
@@Blackheart.735 Luffy has Various versions of Punches and kicks. Punch/Multipunch/Firepunch/BigPunch/MultiBigPunch Kick/Multikick/Firekick/BigKick/MultiBigKick All of these Mixed with His rubberiness
@Darknesschronicle_16 ай бұрын
@@Blackheart.735gear 5 is cool, ngl.
@MoonS444410 ай бұрын
Luffy with boring powers? Oh hell nah, his fighting style is so creative
@jojoman422310 ай бұрын
Not really... every one of his moves are basically "Punch/kick harder" and "Punch/kick faster"
@polskirzniwiarz503410 ай бұрын
@@jojoman4223 kinda but he dose have red hawk and all gear 4 variants
@RiskyyTR110 ай бұрын
@@polskirzniwiarz5034😂 you do realise that is just flaming hard punch right?
@dragfang372310 ай бұрын
This just shows terrible understanding@@RiskyyTR1
@polskirzniwiarz503410 ай бұрын
@@RiskyyTR1 thers more to it but sure watever
@AhmedHussain-ju6xd10 ай бұрын
It is because their powers often reflect their straightforward attitude , and make it easier for the readers to understand their powers.
@JDWalker49510 ай бұрын
But that doesn’t mean they can’t be incredibly creative with their powers
@didack141910 ай бұрын
And for the fights to be easier to write in a week basis
@slevinchannel758910 ай бұрын
Ive been plagued by this for a LONG WHILEEE. Especially in HxH (which i would like confirmation by this KZbinr that he watched it) so this video really speaks to me. I get the authors intend but you cant argue with results: People are just not happy Gon got EMBARASSED by the Reavel of Leoreos Power: His Hatus is literally what Gon should have come up with
@gabrielgoncalves319510 ай бұрын
Stating that luffy's powers are "just stretching" is simplifying way too much to get the point across in my opinion. I mean, yeah, the base of the power is really simple but it's meant to force luffy to use his creativity to be more versatile in combat, or else every battle would just be him developing a stronger punch at the end
@DygoKnight10 ай бұрын
Watch the whole video
@AbhishekKumar-wg3tn10 ай бұрын
@@DygoKnight My problems with this video: 1. It is a huge clickbait. You said(not exactly the same but similar) that powers of shonen mc are boring both at the start of the video and "Why Shonen Main Characters Always Have BORING Powers" is the title but you just said the mc has simple powers. So does simple=boring?How? 2. You seem to confuse powers and techniques. Yes, the rudimentary powers are the same but wouldn't it be weird that the mc just starts breaking rules like it is nothing. The rules state that one person has one element or elements that the person can use, Gon is an enhancer type, Luffy has eaten a devil fruit that makes him stretchy, etc. Your own example of Aang from Avatar is a standard op hero that knows everything thereis trope that is present in a lot of animes/mangas as well(primarily isekais Ik I have seen a lot of them because I liked that trope at one point) and I am not saying Aang is like them, he is definitely well-written and handled properly but a lot of shonen mcs also have a lot of cool powers. Goku's staff and cloud, instant transmission and Luffy's usage of his abilities in general and also you neglected an entire power system present in One Piece known as Haki completely just for the sake of this video which is showing that your take is just stupid and you made an entire video by neglecting facts especially when you said that Deku's powers that he got later on in the series don't count because the story went downhill? What that gotta do with this topic? So we can also neglect Aang because story after that just like you said ,"Korra"(or Avatar: The Legend of Korra) is absolute garbage, so why mention him? 3. I thought this was a shonen video not a Naruto video. I mean yeah you are naruto channel yeah so then why even talk about shonen mc in general, just talk or should I say rant about Naruto only. Oh yeah clickbait. Forgot about that. Even if you have only made Naruto content in the past and will probably keep doing it but you can diversify. It is not like you are limited or restricted to make only Naruto videos. 4. Luffy's use of red hawk just proves your entire point wrong. He uses it on multiple occasions, even upgrades it to red roc, is a fire technique not a rubber one, on top of that, is a combination of two techniques he already has ( like Aang, your example). And there can be other examples with other characters as well. 5. Repetiton: You just mentioned that Naruto characters got nerfed like you do in your boruto rant videos. I also don't like boruto but I also don't like repetiton. 6. Luffy is not just stretchy, he is made up of rubber. Both have some differences like a stretchy person may/may not be hurt by electricity but a rubber person definitely in resistant to electric attacks. I am just nitpicking here so don't take this seriously. If you can answer these problems of mine with your reasonable solutions, I will be very grateful. Thanks
@JDWalker49510 ай бұрын
@@DygoKnightyou still don’t really give credit to his diversity of his powers Saying “yeah he creates different moves from stretching, but it’s still stretching” Is like saying in HXH “yeah they create different techniques from nen, but it’s still just energy manipulation They create new powers from the basic powers, from just stretching Luffy can control several elements (include fire, wind, lightning)
@VVabsa10 ай бұрын
@@JDWalker495 Don't forget multiple arms or boosting himself in the air in Gear 4.
@TyandOnGoing10 ай бұрын
@@VVabsa or inflating his arms by blowing into them to increase his power, or sucking in air to turn into a balloon, entirety of gear 5 toon force.
@loliH910 ай бұрын
Man, Dygo wasn't lying when he said he had never watched Dragon Ball. God bless him.
@shido_rimru_10 ай бұрын
Cause I was about to say goku got a lot of good abilities like 1.Spirt bomb 2.Kaioken 3.instant transmission 4.kamehameha 5.mind reading 6. Telekinesis 7.hakai 8.detructo disc 9.ki avatar 10. God bind 11. Can clone himself
@plagueboi286110 ай бұрын
It ain't that bad (Beside super)
@SunlightGwyn10 ай бұрын
@@shido_rimru_ -He can’t really clone himself. Those are just after images.- But he can fuse with people to make himself even stronger.
@Zenkai-9k10 ай бұрын
@@SunlightGwynhe can clone himself Krillin, piccolo and tien can so he obviously can
@SunlightGwyn10 ай бұрын
@@Zenkai-9k You’re right. I forgot about that.
@sebastien-loikntsangou-kan526410 ай бұрын
I think having simple powers for an MC is fine because it gives the writer the opprotunity to find more creative ways to use such powers. Luffy's power is being made of rubber, which is pretty straightfoward, but he's able to do some creative things like gigantify his limbs, increase his speed by pumping his limbs to increase bloodflow, generate fire and static elictricity using friction, make his punches into homing punches, and even fly using pressurized kicks to bounce off the air. Another example is Jolyne, who can unravel herself into strings, but she was able to prevent being turned inside out from gravitational inversion by unravelling herself into a moebius strip. It doesn't really matter if your power is simple or "boring." What's important is making your power feel "complex" or exciting by having the character's simple powers be used in creative ways.
@Joshua_N-A10 ай бұрын
The power system in World Trigger looked simple though but Idk, I only watch videos about WT. Maybe I need to read the manga itself.
@TheChiog10 ай бұрын
So many people here are like "Luffy's Power are not boring, he's creative i using it!" Guys, at least watch the video before you comment! That's exactly what he is saying. (Though I agree with others that "Basic" or "simplistic" would've been a better term than "boring")
@biohazardbin10 ай бұрын
I didn't watch it bc it's Dygoknight
@TheChiog10 ай бұрын
@@biohazardbinyet you clicked on it.
@AbhishekKumar-wg3tn10 ай бұрын
I watched it but I think he didn't mention haki. Why??? I mean seriously saying Aang should be chosen as a standard or battle shonen mcs should look at aang. Really, funnily, That made me think of Touya from "In another world with my smartphone" bc he can learn all magic abilities, just needs to learn them. So, in a way, every mc has to be like Touya🤣. Just think about it, you should have your opinion and liking, but saying that other archetypes and/or tropes are boring/simplistic/not complex is a bit harsh, don't you think?
@JDWalker49510 ай бұрын
Even calling it basic is stretch (ha get it) cause of all the creative shit he can do with it (eg, create air bullets, grow to gigantic size, control static electricity, etc) By his logic chakra and nen should be basic cause it’s just energy/chi manipulation at its base (which has been done to death). It’s important to look at the powers that spawn from the base concept
@TheDON91410 ай бұрын
Puffy sucks like his rubber verse
@d0m0b4010 ай бұрын
Ichigo is a smart mc you forgot to mention, but he's not hell bent on varying his arsenal and overall just wants to live normally
@kiravampira145610 ай бұрын
Smiled when I heard "Edward Elric" - good to know that people still remember Fullmetal Alchemist. Long live Lust, Envy and the first version of Sloth🌙
@TheDON91410 ай бұрын
Ed & Bradley are the ONLY two characters I fuck with on there .
@Check_your_bac10 ай бұрын
1:22 Tell me u haven't read or watched one piece without telling me u haven't read or watched onepiece
@koblestone125010 ай бұрын
What’s actually funny is that with Luffy you would think his ability is pretty lacking, but even in his own verse Characters who are known to shift Tectonic Plates with and punch, Turn into power rangers, Cut people heads off with them still alive and make it float, and being a skeleton, Those same People still Either have really shocked reactions or just straight up call Luffys abilities Weird af after seeing it once💀
@slevinchannel758910 ай бұрын
Gon got EMBARASSED by the Reavel of Leoreos Power: His Hatus is literally what Gon should have come up with!! Ive been plagued by this for a LONG WHILEEEE. Especially in HxH (which i would like confirmation by this KZbinr that he watched it) so this video really speaks to me. I get the authors intend but you cant argue with results: People are just not happy
@Darknesschronicle_16 ай бұрын
Luffy until gear 5 was just punch/kick harder.
@virn33310 ай бұрын
Luffy has extremely fun powers from episode 1 ive never been bored by luffy what are you smoking
@AyushRaj-b7g10 ай бұрын
That's more in the sense Abilites are simple . Boring is just a more catchy word to atttact viewers ! However, Gear 5 is an exception here
@ralphthefrog308610 ай бұрын
When we knew luffy as just rubber, it's a very simple ability compared to a lightning logia or a phenix mythical zoan. It was how luffy used his imagination to expand his seemingly limited ability which was what made his combat interesting.
@JDWalker49510 ай бұрын
@@AyushRaj-b7gthe base ability is simple but unique. Not many people in fiction got rubber powers as let’s say control over an element
@AyushRaj-b7g10 ай бұрын
@@JDWalker495 truw
@OBsurdityTV9 ай бұрын
None of these characters are boring to watch fight or boring characters Their powers are just never as Spectacular as the rest of the verse
@BlueBonnyAnimator10 ай бұрын
I see it as "if MC will have too much complex or different abilities, then it'd be boring as well", like, look at other's abilities: Bakugo do explosions, wow, so much boring, if you think about it. Zoro just using katanas, Sanji is kicking and etc. The problem, is that if you will do the series, you just need to give MC a simple/"""boring""" ability, just because otherwise you will do the same thing, when "character has a lot of techniques, but because there's too many of them, he only uses few"
@DEVILS_advocate0510 ай бұрын
Luffy shouldn’t be included in this analysis. But to your point it’s a shonen technique I heard. They have one main thing and it’s elaborated as the story goes on. It rarely goes beyond that.
@nickalas66610 ай бұрын
luffy should be include
@brothsipper-h5o10 ай бұрын
@nickalaslindsay7800 He shouldn't, his different gears and Red attacks alone make him not have boring powers
@redninja305610 ай бұрын
Then naruto definitely shouldn't be included
@DEVILS_advocate0510 ай бұрын
@@redninja3056 I think so too. I think the Kurama forms and his many different variants of rasengans makes him skilled like luffy
@TyandOnGoing10 ай бұрын
@@redninja3056 the series for naruto doesnt use naruto abilities to it most creatives degrees cuz then naruto would be too op. Luffy has over 100+ different techniques they aren't really the same.
@JKevz110 ай бұрын
The Caped Baldy is also bored with himself, he doesn't even have any transformation other than loosing his hair Permanently. 😂
@JDWalker49510 ай бұрын
“Luffy can just stretch, gummy boi that’s it” Some Powers Luffy regularly uses: Fire manipulation Static electricity Gigantification Air bullets/shockwaves Super speed Future sight Shapeshifting Transmutation Super strength Hardening Flight
@Kinma1510 ай бұрын
Psychically knock out most people weaker than him
@kachucho87210 ай бұрын
Is this after 600 or 800 episodes into the series?
@JDWalker49510 ай бұрын
@@kachucho872half of them start at 300 if you wanna be specific
@jeffreywright916510 ай бұрын
Nvm gear 5 which is a whole other world
@unreal4good3679 ай бұрын
almost all of them come from his rubber ability, therefore still proving dynoknight correct in the end. Luffy is not a special exception.
@fusion23910 ай бұрын
Luffys powers are unique and cool
@TheDON91410 ай бұрын
😪 🗑
@GgfffHhhh10 ай бұрын
@@TheDON914😂like your mom
@Sandlchi10 ай бұрын
luffy literally has the ability to fight in every which way he can imagine
@Darknesschronicle_16 ай бұрын
Until gear 5 it was still punch/kick harder.
@MenmaUzumaki-CW10 ай бұрын
Naruto literally is a walking cheat code of life, he can just send a shadow clone to work and nobody will suspect
@cvox60710 ай бұрын
Oda said it best , if he gave luffy a cool power like fire or thunder then it wouldn't be fun to draw
@Kkk-pr2bk5 ай бұрын
Luffy has literal reality warping and one of most broken abilities to ever exist
@slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght544710 ай бұрын
also, the fights being more difficult yo write isn't a good excuse for forgetting powers. it's your job as a writer to integrate all of that into the atory. if you didn't want your characters to have those powers, you shouldn't have given them those powers
@hiagustres10 ай бұрын
Luffy is not a character I would say has "boring" powers, he does so much creative stuff with such a basic power, I like characters that have one single power and do a million different things with them, for example Josuke in Part 4 of Jojo
@Blueberry_waffle-w6w10 ай бұрын
This is why I like jojos. It has some boring powers but then some totally random things like “the ability to rewrite evolution in an area as large as Rome because NO ONE IS ALLOWED TO TOUCH THE ARROW!” Or “This tree has bugs under its leaves that fall on the ground that push things along the ground really, really fast because 100 years ago a dude died here from his head being crushed by a rock after he used equivalent exchange from a fruit or Jesus corpse (I forgot which one) to cure his child and wife of a disease that turned them into stone.” It’s just so bizarre bro. And I’m not even done. There is an ability that is just brings story’s, fiction and non-fiction, to life. So you could literally go “Sure Goku can beat that guy, but can Goku beat every other variant of Goku?” And The stand Green Day that spreads a Fungus like disease that decomposes your body part, but only if you move to a lower elevation to where you are standing.”
@adrian_veidt10 ай бұрын
Allen Walker from D gray Man and Recca Hanabishi from Flame of Recca had the most interesting yet simple ability of all the shounen mangas I read. Their powers are rooted from a curse. Allen being able to see the trapped souls within a demon. His innocence weapon the crown clown is a really creative ability. Recca's flame dragon spirits are past flame masters who died with regret. The most endearing will always be Yusuke Urameshi from Yuyu Hakusho and Joe Yabuki from Ashita No joe.
@Avarn38810 ай бұрын
@adrian_veidt I am glad you mentioned Allen Walker. D gray man is underrated and an excellent series. And Allen himself is a fantastic protagonist and his power set is cool.
@adrian_veidt10 ай бұрын
@@Avarn388 Aside from a fantastic yet simple power system, the art of that manga is top tier. I'd easily pick it over the ones listed in the thumbnail of the video.
@PurH66210 ай бұрын
Tsunayoshi Sawada from Hitman Reborn
@domovoi286110 ай бұрын
The whole point of Luffy's abilities is to be funny, wacky and entertaining, while also being able to look cool and badass if necessary which is pretty cool
@kelvinallen932710 ай бұрын
Aang learned his abilities as the series progressed.
@Avarn38810 ай бұрын
@kevinallen9327 Yup. Master all four elements to beat Ozai before the end of summer. It’s a great central conflict that adds a ticking time clock. Plus the training wasn’t easy. Fire and earth being difficult for Aang, pushing him mentally and spiritually. That’s something I find if you want to have a Shonen style protagonist is a must. Never make it easy. Challenge them and have the resolutions be consistent with who they are and having changed as a result beyond their power. It’s why I loved Sage Mode so much for Naruto. He gained wisdom and insight and grew up.
@kelvinallen932710 ай бұрын
@@Avarn388 Avatar is such a well written series. My favourites would be Azula, Katara, Uncle Iroh, etc. 👍
@TheDON91410 ай бұрын
@@Avarn388FACTS ☝ naruto became ANNG when he learned sage mode 🐐
@TheDON91410 ай бұрын
@@kelvinallen9327katara was boring ngl
@kelvinallen932710 ай бұрын
@@TheDON914 Katara is kool, a young water bending master. I like her 👍
@uriahthegreat500410 ай бұрын
dont drag Luffy in with those bums ngl
@unreal4good3672 ай бұрын
that's just special pleading, I'll drag him in anyway because his powers are just punching and kicking with stretching. no matter what gear he uses that all stays the same and I'm quit after reading 700 chapters.
@anishchoudhury853710 ай бұрын
Well Gon definitely looks like a typical shounen mc, but many people misunderstood him for just a typical Mc Shounen. He was always a psychopath with childish behaviour, huge hypocrite and questionable morality. Yeah I do agree with the powers he does have simple ones like the rest. But I think Gon's character as Mc is highly underrated as in terms of writing he is not simple at all.
@urahara6436010 ай бұрын
I noticed this most glaringly in JOJO and I realized that it's mostly because the protagonists have to have a generally good power that's good in most situations. It let's the villains set up a situation where they can seem so much stronger in their specific situation that makes them seemingly unbeatable.
@sebastien-loikntsangou-kan526410 ай бұрын
I think you're downplaying a bit how smart and creative the JoJos are with their powers.
@urahara6436010 ай бұрын
I'm not saying they're not creative. It's a direct reflection of their creativity that most of the protagonists work around the limitations of their mostly basic powers to overcome the villains who set themselves up to be unstoppable in one specific situation.
@yandereneko552310 ай бұрын
Assuming it is to add tension. Giving a character a straight forward power requires creativity against a more complex power.
@JUICE-BOXALT010 ай бұрын
Aint no way he put JJK up there with Naruto, One piece and dragon ball in the thumbnail😂
@jesseDgoat3 ай бұрын
Bro underrated pfp 😎
@lordlittletoeq853710 ай бұрын
i think this video wound up making a better case for how unsimple alot of main characters powers actually are. I think they just feel simple. Ichicigo and gon are kinda the best examples of simple in their respected verse. The issue is they seem to want the main character to win with familiar flash. Awesome video
@9eje84hru10 ай бұрын
I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 jutsus once, but I fear the man who has practiced one rasengan 10,000 times.
@JayEm132510 ай бұрын
Yuji is the ultimate user of his inherited cursed technique: left, right, good night
@irishbananamafia972810 ай бұрын
This is the first time you’ve ever focused a video on more than Naruto, and I love it!
@Dazyhead10 ай бұрын
Law of ueki is really interesting. Basically it has three seperate systems with one system completely blocked off from humans. The first is talents which is what it sounds like. You immediately become a master at the highest degree at something. Like being able to parkour or guess what someone is thinking by facial expressions. Talents can be lost if you attack unsanctioned opponents and earned by defeating sanctioned ones. When you lose all of them you are sent to hell. The second is powers which can turn someone into somthing else, like trash to trees or one second into ten seconds. Powers can evolve into a stronger concept while still having access to the original power.
@alexthekiddo1010 ай бұрын
Oh hey, someone mentioned Ueki! And I thought if you lose all your talents you'd just disappear, not get sent to hell. 🤔
@togawayusuke891510 ай бұрын
Loved you mentioning other series in this channel
@senior_sakuga10 ай бұрын
Honestly shonen could learn from cape comics when it comes to making different types of villains that aren’t just chars who fight. Hostages and death games and using their big brains that make the hero win without just throwing a punch
@XxInfinityxXTimer10 ай бұрын
If mega man become a Shonen anime we would see him using all sort of techniques and abilities he copied while keeping it simple
@rbk731710 ай бұрын
Please make a video on why Konoha 12 don't use nature chakra releases (neji fire release rotation)
@Crow_Rising10 ай бұрын
Main protagonists generally aren't meant to be a "Jack of all trades" type character unless the author can find a way to make it more clever than just "Doing all the things" somehow, because if the MC doesn't have clearly defined limits they're not interesting. It's not just about relatability, but more importantly it's about believability. Supporting cast and antagonists can more believably be capable of doing more because we don't have to see them learning every ability on screen, but we are supposed to see almost everything significant that happens to the MC from beginning to end of their journey. If they learn a new power somehow, it should come about in a way that doesn't feel too contrived and feels like a natural progression of the plot. Admittedly this is difficult to pull off and there are many shonen battles that can be boiled down to the MC suddenly gaining exactly the power they need to counter their current antagonist (Giorno Giovanna I'm looking straight at you), but generally speaking readers/viewers resonate with the journey of the MC and this is achieved by limiting the scope of the MC's powers so as to keep them as a believable underdog finding a way to win against all odds. MC's also generally aren't stupid. They may not be book smart, but there's other kinds of intelligence and Shonen MC's very often have two particular kinds of smarts: Social smarts that help them to form believable bonds with others, and combat smarts that help them to gain the upper hand in battle using the tools and allies available to them. Book smart characters have to be handled very carefully with Shonen battle MC's because a big part of the journey is them learning along with the reader/viewer, so if they already know too much it can take away from the experience. Such things are usually reserved for antagonists and mentor characters.
@interviewwithdevin290210 ай бұрын
Kurapika is a good example. He was op the moment he got nen because he had so many options
@PirateKingGoofy10 ай бұрын
@DygoKnight I actually think Naruto had the potential to have some complex abilities in his 6 paths sage mode, but Kishimoto was in a rush and a we couldn’t see as much as he would’ve liked to show. Also I don’t know how far you’ve read into One Piece but Luffy’s powers are easily the most entertaining and creative despite being simple. His most recent power up every attack is unique from another, he’s had it for 60 chapters and has yet to use the same attack twice, and the way Oda draws it is incredibly wacky and unique. You said his power is just stretching, but just stretching allows him to do anything his imagination can conjure. As far as some other protags go they literally spam the same attack 40 times a battle which can be un watchable sometimes.
@rosure710 ай бұрын
Luffy's abilities aren't simple though. Having the properties of an element like rubber isn't a simple ability. And how he uses it is actually pretty complex too.
@Speedyshad_ed10 ай бұрын
I see different anime images on your channel for the first time
@JC-kz9zn10 ай бұрын
Im printing a story where the main character has superspeed and snake like abilities
@gabrielmartins-xt6rx11 күн бұрын
I'd say the protagonist from chained soldier has a pretty complex power(in comparisson with shounen), he can transform into a monster that can punch really hard, but early in the series the main cast finds that he can combine his powers with the others to create a unique transformation and a new set of powers. That way the main cast can aproach different situations in a variety of ways and you always are guessing what powers will come from other characters. Also, despite the great variety, they don't always have access to the strongest combinations, which helps avoid power creeping abilities out of relevancy.
@Crimzonbreaker10 ай бұрын
If y'all want a Shounen where the MC has an interesting or more complex ability read Gachiakuta. It has people who enhance the power of garbage based on how much value have towards it.
@spongex129410 ай бұрын
Personally, Luffy's powers got more variety to them as the series progressed; the other guys though like Naruto and Itadori are pretty much right on the mark. There's not much there to work with for those guys.
@sum1sburneracc78610 ай бұрын
in jojo starting from battle tendency and stardust crusaders fights are very strategic, especially after introduction of stands
@aEclipze10 ай бұрын
sasukes fights were so good bc he had so many options idk i feel like that’s more entertaining
@blackogjesus10 ай бұрын
It's a shame Naruto only uses rasangan, Naruto should be the guy who's extremely versatile. All he has to do is exactly what he did learning the rasen shuriken with all the extra clones to speed up the learning process
@theking834710 ай бұрын
Ransengan is itself a very versatile move. It's useful in any situation.
@blackogjesus10 ай бұрын
@@theking8347 i mean that's fair but still haha. Heck I can't even remember the last time he did a rasangan variant in the boruto era ( other than giant rasangan vs robo blonde and baryon mode )
@kar1r1guzo0ra710 ай бұрын
The main character for a comic I'm working on falls into this category of "Boring abilities."
@JDWalker49510 ай бұрын
What is it? It all depends on how you use the power
@kar1r1guzo0ra710 ай бұрын
@@JDWalker495 He can charge up energy, and release it like a repulsive thruster from any part of his body
@Weeb-Knight10 ай бұрын
@@kar1r1guzo0ra7 even as a fart?😂
@kar1r1guzo0ra710 ай бұрын
@@Weeb-Knight I passionately hate toilet humor but I guess he could
@justme2215410 ай бұрын
It's also partly so you can get people into the side characters. The protagonist automatically has our attention since they're the person from whose perspective we see everything. We're invested in them by default because without them, we have no show. They don't need much else to get us behind them. The side characters, on the other hand, have to earn our attention. They could potentially be cut or lost at any moment, so if we're to remember them, they need to stand out somehow. Yes, characters are more than their powers, but in a genre defined by fighting, cool and unique powers are a good way to get us interested in a side character early on, so giving them more while the main character gets less makes sense from a story and character standpoint. Also, a protagonist who breaks this trend really well without taking too much away from the other characters is Kōsuke Ueki from Law of Ueki. A really underrated show where the MC's power is basically an eco-warrior's dream, turning trash into trees. It's a good show and I think more people should talk about it.
@VanLe-gk3ie10 ай бұрын
Dragon Ball Super is oversaturated with the variant SSJ transformations with the different color palettes, and with the new Beast Gohan and Orange Piccolo in the new movie. It gets boring and dull which is why Toriyama himself is heavily involved in making DB Daima, going back to the basics with Goku as a kid again along with his friends using nothing but his skill as a martial artist and wits.
@devontewilson79110 ай бұрын
Bro doesn't know what he's talking about 😂😂bro said my hero fell off and Luffy powers are boring ....bro stick to watching naruto cause Laffy literally has the most op power in his verse .....him being dumb is whats dragging him back .....and mha can't fall off when it has more than 80 million sales
@Ajwad9910 ай бұрын
JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure does a really good job at this, characters have 1 or 2 abilities but the way they are used is soo good
@danielsantiagourtado343010 ай бұрын
Dytoknight! ALWAYS early for your content! Thanks! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@lightyoshiman10 ай бұрын
You just described why some of these characters are popular despite having shallow move set its how they use their moves. Example Naruto at times would use his clones to turn into various things to out smart his opponent. Before he became ki spam happy goku actually came up with his own fighting style to counter roshis drunken style. It's how they use their limited tools that makes their fights interesting
@joelconolly557410 ай бұрын
They may not have the most overpowered skills but they do have the most powerful skills of them all. Power ups aside, punching power and explosive power is definitely every shonen main character's main selling point. Defeating foes in one hit is a trademark of most of these shonen protags. It's probably why it's keeping it simple. Too bad they couldn't have more skills in their hands. Probably why people were upset when Naruto came back no different than his previous 3 years journey.
@thegreatacky798310 ай бұрын
Tbh, I enjoy Naruto power. Slamming mf with a pure chakra ball, a legendary fox chakra monster and sage mode is pretty fun to see
@treytison144410 ай бұрын
"Luffy can just stretch, gummy boy that's it." Lol WHAT? Homeboy can swing from lightning bolts and warp reality around him.
@crazygamer254010 ай бұрын
Why does this video idea seem familiar
@danielfonseca799810 ай бұрын
"Naturo is the one I know more about" Yes we've noticed , calling kamehameha 'laser beams' and saying that Luffy can strech and "thats it". 😂
@AyushRaj-b7g10 ай бұрын
Luffy can be exculded but Dygo is not an expert when it comes to One piece , most probably he started watching it now but Goku is just laser bah
@danielfonseca799810 ай бұрын
@@AyushRaj-b7g chi blast not laser LOL
@AyushRaj-b7g10 ай бұрын
@@danielfonseca7998 That is a funny way of saying that is just an energy Blast Laser is techincally diff but who cares !
@HiAgainTheNameIsStillAyle10 ай бұрын
To be fair, Goku actually doesn't give a lot of uses for Ki, but he is more of a hand to hand fighter to be fair, not the type to be creative with ki projections Vegeta however...
@spinothenoooob605010 ай бұрын
goku is an exception man goku cell and buu are the most versitile char. that i see in db
@theking834710 ай бұрын
Simpler abilities are often more versatile while more complex in ones are more situational.
@MilesLupine10 ай бұрын
The lack of knowledge of like the last 2 years of One Piece is really showing. Heck could almost have it stretch all the way back to when the time skip happened even. Heck Goku being put on this list makes me wonder if any Dragon Ball was actually read/watched beyond clips from some fights.
@jeffreywright916510 ай бұрын
He's a Naruto fan with little knowledge on other series
@lunatic0verlord109 ай бұрын
Though one issue that can come up with the shonen manga way of handling powers is there's a risk of writing yourself into a corner. If the protagonist's powers are TOO simple and he's up against a villain with extremely varied powers, you run the risk of the hero having no way to defeat the villain. Like, imagine pitting a guy who can only punch stuff against a villain who is made of something that bare go right through without damage (like light or mist). This has led a few manga series to get into situations where the author had to pull something out of his arse to beat the villain.
@Blueberry_waffle-w6w10 ай бұрын
6:14 when you think about Jotaro kujo “Oh, Big buff purple ghost.”
@AtlantaSamurai29 күн бұрын
Great video
@mattys610610 ай бұрын
It’s simple. The protagonist is usually an underdog. They wouldn’t be an underdog if they started with the aptitude for complex abilities. They would be a genius if that was the case. Protagonist is an underdog with great potential usually in shounen
@1BadAssArchAngelvs149 ай бұрын
what about one Punch man "Saitama" he's broken and op. A main character can be versatile if they are written via Future Story Sight already or have vast experience being a mentor for an inexperienced partner character the main character has to mentor throughout the story. Main Characters can also be versatile in the story's beginning ,but also have a lack of understanding of the powers they have until later like Boruto from Boruto Next Gen or Gon from hunter x Hunter.
@davidevitiello65910 ай бұрын
Could you cover Gojo vs kakashi ????
@brothsipper-h5o10 ай бұрын
Dygo Knight is not a power scale, but if you want to hear my thoughts, Gojo scales to island level through Dagon's DE, and Kakashi scales to multi continental Bijuu bombs, and Kamui counters Infinity, and there is a big speed difference, Gojo has massively hypersonic speed, and Kakashi has FTL due to upscaling drom Haku who can move at lightspeed stated in the databook, and Kakashi can dodge DE and Kamui Holliw Purple away, so yeah Kakashi basically stomps
@TheDON91410 ай бұрын
I'd say the shadow clones is probably the ONLY boring ability naruto has , all his other abilities are nukes , gokus an yujis abilities are solid too Luffys powers are boring asf no matter what form he takes .
@PavillionKing10 ай бұрын
If they have unique powers with a complex set of instructions, then they will become ineffective real fast.
@armorbearer970210 ай бұрын
(8:26) This is one of the biggest disappointments in Naruto. He is supposed to be the new toad sage yet he hardly uses Frog Kata or any toads.
@Joshua_N-A10 ай бұрын
I've always wanna see sage mode Naruto uses the Toad Oil Flamethrower.
@ginnungagapabyss563910 ай бұрын
Seems like a lot of people are offended Luffy was on the list. Weird, since his entire arsenal are punches and kicks, just with the size, speed, and elements changing. It's not like the guy was saying that he hated Luffy, just that his powers are boring. Sure, gear 5 allows him to make things more cartoon-like, but his only attacks are still punches, and kicks.
@AbhishekKumar-wg3tn10 ай бұрын
rocket, bazooka, cannon, balloon, bell (you didn't mention headbutts), pinwheel, shield, chomp chomp, buzzsaw, ally robo, hammer, gavel, bowgun, haki uage completely forgotten by both the video and your comment, snake shot, red hawk, red roc, lightning, net, etc. would like to enter the conversation. Some (actually a lot of them) are one-offs bc they didn't work when Luffy tried it the first time or wouldn't work against the new enemy. And also why should I argue with Buggy bc you also seemingly like flashy fights. Another stupid point that you just made that one of the most popular sports that is, boxing is just boring according to you? Then, series like Hajime no Ippo, characters like Rock Lee are boring as well?
@ginnungagapabyss563910 ай бұрын
@@AbhishekKumar-wg3tn yeah, he would play dirty with headbutt, and hitting attacks as well, why would you want to make Luffg look petty with those moves.
@jk278210 ай бұрын
Goku also knows destructo disc, solar flare and the bending kamehameha, as well as the genki dama.
@yajurraghavan419310 ай бұрын
5:17 the MC is the MC and they're gonna have a lot of screen time so... Gege: HOLD UP!!! That's the problem? fear not! after 3rd season or so i'll forget i have yuji.
@Joshua_N-A10 ай бұрын
Well it's called Jujutsu Kaisen, not Yuji lol.
@yajurraghavan419310 ай бұрын
@@Joshua_N-A EXACTLY!!! I've been saying this for quite a while now, but no one listens to me. This is Jujutsu Kaisen. Not One Piece, not Naruto, not "Yuji Kaisen" or "Jujutsu Itadori". Gege doesn't even have 1 mm of fan service in JJK. Gege doesn't wait for the "perfect" second to make his characters use their "special" attack that magically works against this one opponent alone. JJK's characters just start jumping on the enemies and I like it.
@justarandomf2p61510 ай бұрын
Bro really said all for one and thought we wouldn't notice 🤣🤣🤣
@unknownhero81410 ай бұрын
Mention it once realize he was wrong and never brought it up for the rest of the video
@meburritoloco747510 ай бұрын
I think main characters having 'boring' powers is a trope for a reason. It introduces the reader to the power system and engages them. Later when people come in different and OP stuff, it makes the MC fight harder or learn how to apply their basic powers in different ways. It gives the MC room to grow and expand.
@Alexander-295610 ай бұрын
And there's an extreme example. The new anime where the mc can just kill enemies just by thinking about it. At first it looks and sounds cool but 7 (iirc) episodes in and I'm kinda not feeling it anymore. He's just too op.
@adnagapot10 ай бұрын
tbf to goku, the power sets in dragonball, especially after z, are pretty straightforward
@guytremblay814810 ай бұрын
This is a good thing to diverse from naruto for the future of your channel
@TheBillhs10 ай бұрын
if you give them interesting powers the anime becomes about their powers and not the message the character is trying to get across
@rexflores846110 ай бұрын
I don't think Goku or Luffy should really be on this list for the simple reason that their not as simple compared to the people in their verse. Luffy's bag is deep. He's capable of using advance application of all haki, his 5 gears, and rukoshiki. His powers are arguably the most complex in his crew. Him and Goku are pretty simple but compared to their verse they're mid at worst. People like Yuji, Naruto, and Ichigo on the other hand need to be arrested. Yuji needs to get life without parole. Naruto needs multiple life sentences. And they can just give Ichigo the chair, the most boring of almost shonen protagonist.
@Joshua_N-A10 ай бұрын
I think my Torchlight characters have way more abilities than most shonen characters lol.
@zineprixmenu437310 ай бұрын
And yet yuji like the goat he is still has some of the best fights in all jjk
@Zenkai-9k10 ай бұрын
I would hope so, he's the mc It would be dramatic if an mc didnt have a top 5 fight in the series
@zineprixmenu437310 ай бұрын
@@Zenkai-9k im saying you dont need flashing powers to have great powers thats all
@Zenkai-9k10 ай бұрын
@@zineprixmenu4373 yuji doesnt have great powers tho
@zineprixmenu437310 ай бұрын
@@Zenkai-9k i meant grat fights my b
@Joshua_N-A10 ай бұрын
Waiting for a shonen MC that fights using piledriver, chokeslam, DDT, powerbomb, enzuigiri, Russian legsweep, lariat, backbreaker, superkick, powerslam, pumphandle slam, Samoan drop, Samoan spike, Samoan slam, spear, frog spash, swanton, moonsault, crossface, ankle lock, sleeper hold, lion tamer, Michinoku driver, big boot, stunner, pedigree, sledgehammer, scissors kick, brainbuster, Canadian destroyer, armbar, German suplex, belly to belly suplex, elevated suplex, flying headbutt, dropkick, elbow drop, facebuster, spinebuster, bulldog with occassional weapons such as steel chairs, tables, ladders, shinai aka kendo sticks, brass knuckles, sledgehammers, fire extinguishers, trash cans, barb wire 2×4s, Japanese wooden sword etc
@zephyr_01210 ай бұрын
Nice topic from everyone minds and nicely explanation ❤❤
@uasyagrutch740610 ай бұрын
Wait, LUFFY AND GOKU? Start with explaining how THEIR powers are boring.
@alanviniciuswanderleytavar439910 ай бұрын
Not sure about you guys. But Luffy is made of Rubber, not so simple in my opinion, he uses his body in many different ways
@MessedUpSystem7 ай бұрын
My answer to why the protagonist often has simple powers: simple magic is often best magic. In many games I play where there are a whole lot of different magic spells to choose from, I often resort to the simple ones like "ice spike", since they are simple and get the job done nicely without needing setup
@dyospadefkiillahi141110 ай бұрын
Objection Your honor, Goku and Luffy kind of more creative in their power and abilities #mizuluffyisthestrongestformofluffy
@MonkeyKing239393 ай бұрын
Yuji has the most simple abilities but i always enjoy him throwing hands
@lordlittletoeq853710 ай бұрын
Gokus is actaully on the more cpmplex side of powers in his univerese. can read minds, see while blind, can teleport and suprise faster eneimes, can absorb genki, can hurt hims self for extra power, can fusion dance, can heal in super. and he seems to know all his friends moves too. Naruto's shadow clonses are underated in how interesting they are, sauske only wins in complexity because of sharinggan, Naruto can summons toads and his whirlball isnt consisitent in what it seems to do so youre never sure what state the enemy will be in when he hits them with it.
@dusttoh892710 ай бұрын
Naruto uses attack A: Sasukeeee Sasuke uses attack B: Narutoooo Naruto uses attack C: Sasukeee Sasuke uses attack D: Narutoooo And it goes on and on for another 500 chapters.
@Ricardo-yt7fg14 күн бұрын
if you watch the show you would know that they only fought twice. this is what happens when you watch anime on tiktok
@FabriceLabako6 ай бұрын
At 09:00 you say that Naruto doesn't User Sage Mode Powers, but he doesn't throwing the Rssenshuriken is a Sage Mode Power not KCM Power. He can still Senseo other people's chakra and has a is in generals stronger.
@tinymouse.10 ай бұрын
SPOILER ALERT FOR ONE PIECE: You clearly havent seen more of one piece because then you would know that Luffy doesn't ONLY stretch. He has the Gears 2-5, he has Haki, and since Luffy can stretch he can stretch into anything that his mind can think of.
@DygoKnight10 ай бұрын
Watch the whole video
@napping767410 ай бұрын
all luffy did is stretch but in the ened its just punches and kicks even witj gears still only punches and kicks and more cartoon punches thats it..theres nothing complex about it and its boring😂
@AbhishekKumar-wg3tn10 ай бұрын
@@napping7674 rocket, bazooka, cannon, balloon, bell (you didn't mention headbutts), pinwheel, shield, chomp chomp, buzzsaw, ally robo, hammer, gavel, bowgun, haki uage completely forgotten by both the video and your comment, snake shot, red hawk, red roc, lightning, net, etc. would like to enter the conversation. Some (actually a lot of them) are one-offs bc they didn't work when Luffy tried it the first time or wouldn't work against the new enemy. And also why should I argue with Buggy bc you also seemingly like flashy fights.
@bkuffy6 ай бұрын
@@napping7674he has fire moves electric moves he flys and becomes big
@Avdimax10 ай бұрын
DygoKnight just claims shonen characters have boring abilities and then proceeds to refute himself in the next 12 minutes 🙃