Dynasty Warriors Origins | Royal Rambling

This is essentially my overall thoughts on what is presented to us in the Announcement Trailer.

[@khairurrijalkhalis4172]

It would be interesting if we had a branching story, but even if the story didn't branch, I would personally be interested if the story presented was the life story of a player from one party to another but still remained loyal to the faction served. We know that many generals changed sides when their faction was defeated or conquered. For example, Zhang Liao who served Lu Bu but then served Cao Cao after Lu Bu was executed, or Xiahou Ba who turned to Shu, or Zhuge Dan who turned to Wu. It would be interesting if the Player initially came from the Yellow Turban, then when the Yellow Turban loses we will join the winning faction, to make it more interesting, for example the Player moves to the Dong Zhuo faction then Lu Bu then Cao Cao then Liu Bei then Wu then Jin. The age system is also very interesting, where players from young people in the Yellow Turban era to old people in the Three Kingdoms era are replaced by Jin. I agree with unique skills, Dynasty Warriors lose their appeal when key characters can use different types of weapons because it makes all the characters the same. If the player has a different attack style from other characters even though they use the same type of weapon, that will be very interesting. I also hope they bring the button smashing method back to the game. This is a bit of an exaggeration but I've been quite interested in playing Wuxia themed games lately. And this theme game has lots of unique skills or various skills at least. When DW9 appeared I hoped they would implement something similar, but in DWO I dreamed they would give players access to assemble the moves they would use. For example, when using a spear we can determine what the first attack will be, whether it will slash horizontally, vertically, stab or pull the enemy into the air.

[@musouprince7796]

@@khairurrijalkhalis4172 I don't think Omega Force is going to get that detailed. I think in terms of branching paths, there will be a single path all the way to Dong Zhuo and then we get to choose which of the three lords to follow (Liu Bei, Cao Cao, Sun Jian) I definitely think there is going to be an age system because that's definitely young Cao Cao and young Guan Yu in the trailer itself. I really hope they do a mixture of Equippable skills like Pirate Warriors 4/Samurai Warriors 5 as well as unique abilities like they did in Fire Emblem: Three Hopes. In terms of the Player jumping between all of these different forces, I think that would be too linear whereas branching paths gives the player more choice. The biggest thing I hope they do is actually give amazing Bond events between the player and the other Warriors like in Fire Emblem: Three Hopes.

[@khairurrijalkhalis4172]

@@musouprince7796 To be honest, my lowest expectation was that I didn't think they would use branch stories. What I can think of is that we're going to be some kind of mercenary force, or militant force, or nomadic force. Where we have a base and a "secret" place to strengthen our troops. Then we will enter a battle from each faction or be hired by one of the factions. Maybe as an illustration of the What If condition, when we play Lu Bu in the DW6 game. There Lu Bu actively entered into every war and "rioted". My expectation is that we as players will be like that where we will enter every war or scenario. I think the use of troops will be their main core in gameplay. Seeing from before, DW9 was very ugly in the eyes of many people, but the Empire version doesn't seem too bad. You could say the Empire version is a depiction of my lowest gameplay expectations as I previously thought.

[@musouprince7796]

@@khairurrijalkhalis4172 So what you're saying is- Bladestorm's Mercenary System mixed with Kingdom Under Fire's RTS?

[@khairurrijalkhalis4172]

@@musouprince7796 I don't remember the precise system of the two but you can draw conclusions like that I think. In essence, we players do not side with one faction throughout our lives. War-themed games especially colossal ones, have the concept of a war story not between right and justice, but about what you hold firmly. So if our character adheres to the ideals of freedom and peace, then it makes sense that we can be involved in all wars without being locked into just one faction.

[@hojukimchi1412]

I hope koei will hire chinese actors who pronounce chinese words fluently.. I'm tired of hearing cao cao pronounced as sao sao or cao cao when it's more pronounced as tao tao in chinese. It ruins immersion.. I hope morale plays a big role and that characters are not on the same level. I expect it would be super difficult to defeat Zhang Fei, guan yu, Zhao yun, dian wei etc. And if you do defeat any of those, it would have a huge impact on morale of the entire army. Also, similar to my previous point, I'd like to see some kind of army ranking system where you start off as a private who serves an officer. Being a nobody in the beginning and later on, seeing others recognise your worth.

[@musouprince7796]

Here's to hoping that not only will there be branching paths for the three main kingdoms, but maybe also what ifs if you join the Yellow Turbans, Dong Zhuo, Lü Bu, or Yuan Shap. As for the pronunciation, I thought for Cao Cao it was like "Tsou-Tsou" or "Tsaoh-Tsaoh" or something. It's like both a T and an S to pronounce the beginning of his names.

[@hojukimchi1412]

@musouprince7796 it will be curious to see how detailed they can get when serving a lord. Hearing Lubu admit, that you are better than him through your actions 😄 Shape your mouth how you would when you pronounce an S and then instead of speaking it, just say tao tao and you'll hear a bit of the S just before the T or as if S and t are the same sound.

[@musouprince7796]

@@hojukimchi1412 That would be...a dream come true! And yes, that's what I meant XD

[@Shin_Lona]

You're touching on a much larger issue... Pinyin and Wade-Giles are both pretty much worthless. We really need a legitimate system of Romanization for Chinese. I prefer everything in its proper language though, so having it in Mandarin solves the problem.

[@elliothunter8542]

Interesting video! What do you think this means for the spin off series like Empires amd the general direction going forward? Yay for localised voices as well!

[@musouprince7796]

I get this strangest feeling that this is going to be a one off game, so no Empires OR Xtreme Legends. BUT. We might get Season Passes, given Koei's track record with Wo Long

[@gustavobarron2948]

Prolly this will be another Wolong/Dynasty version ...

[@musouprince7796]

@@gustavobarron2948 That's what I said, but it might be what Dynasty Warriors needs with some few changes here and there

[@MidnightBlackandVictoria]

i wouldnt like roster cuts- I want the roster to keep growing. Hell, I'd prefer if every officer was unique, and they tweaked the stat lines to be more along the lines of Romance of the Three Kingdoms (the game) so that notable characters ARE more notable. Especially if they are adding strategy elements to make strategists shine. The roster might seem bloated for those who are just into the game series, but for those who love this historical era and/or the novels/TV show, ect its fan service, not bloating. And honestly just because they are there doesnt mean EVERYONE needs to play every character, BUT their uniqueness adds to the immersion. No one really feels anything against generics.....And yet some of these generics are amazing warriors or strategists who should be a threat (Like Yan Liang and Wen Chou (who despite getting one-shot by Guan Yu were actually fearsome with long reputations), Ma Teng, Cheng Yu, Yan Yan, Gao Shun, and many others that alot of fans were always asking to be added in.

[@musouprince7796]

I agree, if they did make every character unique, that would be another story. However, Omega Force is showing that they're not up to the task, especially with how they handled Dynasty Warriors 9 with their characters as well as the weapons.

[@MidnightBlackandVictoria]

@@musouprince7796 dw 9 was just awful. And what's sad, is that they COULD do them all unique if they chose to, just going for a less "flair" artstyle for the not-so-noteworthy (Similar to how bodyguards were "unique" using CAW parts, but maybe a bit better). I played their "Three Hopes" game, and they did a TON of unique characters in that one AND gave them enough personality to justify each of them. They just need to reignite the passion they once had in creating Dynasty Warriors, because lets face it....They havent really put heart into making one of these since probably DW 7.

[@musouprince7796]

@@MidnightBlackandVictoria You should see my "Fixing Dynasty Warriors 9" then.

[@MidnightBlackandVictoria]

@@musouprince7796 I am bored, so I'll check it out now, thanks!

[@hopeestheim7285]

I hope not same fate as DW 9 too

[@musouprince7796]

I'm hoping not, as well. This game needs to do well or we might not ever get another Dynasty Warriors, if not for a long time.