Dyno Test: Best Tite-Reach Wrench Extender? + Mac & Snap On

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@TorqueTestChannel
@TorqueTestChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Makes for a good gift or could bail you out in a pinch when used by hand: amzn.to/3B91CNv It will take impact abuse, just not going to be transferring that impacting very dramatically as we showed. Either way, if you come out the other end not owning the ABS plastic model even my daughter could break, that's a win any way you look at it.
@1202Sid
@1202Sid 2 жыл бұрын
Congrats guys !! You know you have made it when AvE mentions you :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/q6m3ipaFja-CiM0
@connorbroyles3369
@connorbroyles3369 2 жыл бұрын
Would a torque multipler work better on these tools to reach higher torque transfer?
@garyp.7501
@garyp.7501 2 жыл бұрын
I'd rather own a set of ratchet wrenches.
@bobwilson7684
@bobwilson7684 2 жыл бұрын
I realy don´t get this fixation on milwakee, there are many trades for which the high strenght is all the contrary to what they need, regarding precission, sensibilty and security features, there are better brands. and that makes me think of all this reviews channels..I donnou I wonder how many have "real people" behind, and how does it works that big brands knock on your door and tell you- hey would you like doing some promotion for us, easy money- most of any of all these channels are entirely focused on one single brand...and most of them mostly only talk about strenght... there are also all those channels making reviews with tons of tools behind and rolling on the table, anyone can see that these tools have never been used any single chance, the show only their hands never their faces, they never show those projects they used to work on, for which they need hundred different tools, or just look at their hands...those guys have never been to a contruction site haha, however they also have "the real worker version" too hahaha, they have all the salesman-client oriented videos possible.....youtube gets scarier day by day, plus the way the platform works, we realy do not watch what we want, but what the platform wants...that is, a hell ton of multinationals and lobbys cleaning their asses with youtube.. like I said, who knows, but...strange numbers and figures online and there is this thing of selfcloning and rebranding of products...well...numbers speak for themselves
@bobwilson7684
@bobwilson7684 2 жыл бұрын
I want t say, however, in this case, the model of this channel very clever for promoting milwakee
@JohnHenryEdenUSA
@JohnHenryEdenUSA 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see you guys put a set of those torque limiting sticks on your rig. I've been curious about well they work with different strength impacts and how accurate they are.
@toddpfister280
@toddpfister280 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@freddym.1489
@freddym.1489 2 жыл бұрын
I think he mentioned that their accuracy depends/ changes on a few factors, in one of the first few episodes
@paulmarchant9613
@paulmarchant9613 2 жыл бұрын
@@freddym.1489 It would be good to see how it changes and what the factors are.
@TorqueTestChannel
@TorqueTestChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Workin on it
@shadymaint1
@shadymaint1 2 жыл бұрын
I find torque sticks underperform at my current shop. We have air delivery issues. At our old shop the were far more accurate.
@huzudra
@huzudra 2 жыл бұрын
I've always wondered why they don't make one with a larger and smaller gear for some torque multiplication since they absorb the impact blows so well.
@bend7668
@bend7668 2 жыл бұрын
They do, the mac? One was mentioned in the tear down with having different gear sizes for some mechanical advantage
@boosterseat9967
@boosterseat9967 2 жыл бұрын
@@bend7668 I believe on the Mac that the drive gear is bigger than the output gear, which would actually lead to decrease in torque but higher rpm.
@F0XD1E
@F0XD1E 2 жыл бұрын
If the output end was made with a significantly larger sprocket to get a torque advantage, it would kind of defeat the purpose of being a tool for tight reach areas.
@brianargo4595
@brianargo4595 2 жыл бұрын
@@F0XD1E it could still be just as slim if they use a proper hobbed gear and not a sintered metal one. Haven't gotten to the teardown yet, so not sure on original construction
@DeBuII1
@DeBuII1 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same
@jamdc2000
@jamdc2000 2 жыл бұрын
Super interesting, good to see you guys testing more than just electric tools, keep up the good work
@shanehoffman7975
@shanehoffman7975 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve had the tite reach ones for about 2 years. I only ever use the 1/2” one. It kills the torque on your impact but they are great for motor mounts on fwd 4 cyl cars. You don’t need to do any twisting. So that bolt you’d have to drop the motor for because you can get a ratchet on but can’t turn, now can be removed. Also the 1/2” tite reach has seen quite a lot of impact use over 2 years and is still holding up. So they do last surprisingly
@WhiskyMechanic
@WhiskyMechanic 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks guys! I was really tempted to buy a Tite-Reach last year but I bought and Milwaukee M12 extended reach ratchet instead. I'm glad I did! If I do buy one in the future, I'd buy the Mac Tools/Facom one as a KMC chain is very easy to source and replace.
@garyday6681
@garyday6681 5 ай бұрын
You answered my question. You can use it to start the bolt in hard to reach places plus remove them if you just use just a ratchet after you loosen them with a stronger tool first. I just ordered mine today. Thank you.
@reneantonio91
@reneantonio91 2 жыл бұрын
The other day I saw some KZbin video on the snap on one , never used it before and was interested in it but instantly thought “ would be cool to see the torque test channel test this tool”
@athhud
@athhud 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for saving me some coin. I’d been considering picking one of these up for a while, but to answer your question, my choice will be my cordless ratchet. If I just have to have one, I’ll build one myself as these don’t seem to show any advantage on some junk I could cook up with spare parts. I do wonder how a transfer case style chain/sprocket would perform in this application.
@Thumper68
@Thumper68 2 жыл бұрын
Chains on drill tech drill rig I used to own/operate were made for impacting. Air rotary hammer bits, 25k pound casing driver impacts.
@sijonda
@sijonda 2 жыл бұрын
I'd go for the MAC. It's darn close to the Snap On, but the most important feature is you can service it. If you intend to use a tool for a very long time you need to be able to repair it yourself.
@victoryfirst2878
@victoryfirst2878 2 жыл бұрын
The only way to make this item stronger is to use gears that are connected from one end to the other. This is really hard to engineer for the space envelope. Peace
@_Epictetus_
@_Epictetus_ 3 ай бұрын
I think the point of these are to make hard to reach bolts easier to get in and out not to torque down. That's how i will be using them, time is currency.
@fiveletters
@fiveletters 2 жыл бұрын
You know, this actually seems like something you could make a better version of without an insane amount of work. Enclosed body made from squaretube like the snapon, using hefty shafts on good bearings, and off-the-shelf motorcycle parts. Even standard 525 chain is rated for 9220lbs tensile strength, almost 4x the snapon's chain rating. If you wanted to go even further, you could have custom sintered sprockets made with a beefier profile for maximum engagement and minimum drivetrain lash.
@williams6550
@williams6550 2 жыл бұрын
Bearings, that's the first thing I thought. That simple Snap-On with some good bearings would be really nice.
@alphazuluz
@alphazuluz Жыл бұрын
“You could make this without an insane amount of work” he says. Then follows that up with “custom sintered sprockets”.
@fiveletters
@fiveletters Жыл бұрын
@@alphazuluz Here, you dropped this: "If you wanted to go even further"
@Diabolical58
@Diabolical58 2 жыл бұрын
I have both the Macs and still didn’t think they would go as high as you had them. Great video Now I know
@SebastianBlix
@SebastianBlix 2 жыл бұрын
Impeccable timing, I was just thinking about buying the Mac version of one of these yesterday!
@dieselhatz4247
@dieselhatz4247 2 жыл бұрын
The snap-on looks nicest, but at that price, I’ll never own it. The Facom, sorry, Mac one, is more in my price range and also more easily available to me, shame about the warranty though. Hummed and hahhhed over getting one, but this test for science has proven they are capable of withstanding and producing torque (though reduced). Thank you as always, and great to see you all mentioned by AvE, you’ve entered a certain circle (no pun intended), and vouched for, welcome to the family 😂.
@Fliegercantfly
@Fliegercantfly 2 жыл бұрын
I am a bicycle mechanic amd kmc is probably by far the best chains. We mainly use it with the e bikes.
@cedricpidde9314
@cedricpidde9314 2 жыл бұрын
I bought the 1/2 Mac. I knew its gonna come with a substantial torque loss and, that chain will break pretty quick for what I planned on using it for (5/8 frame and suspension bolts). The tool has way more torque loss than I expected but, it did not break. My expectations were quite high but my Mac salesman assured me it’ll work. All in all it’s a pretty slick and cost effective tool to substitute a 1/2 electric or pneumatic ratchet if you already own a good impact gun.
@fenstermakerwj
@fenstermakerwj 2 жыл бұрын
Tight Reach I think is good for that one bolt you can break loose with an wrench or ratchet but will spend too long getting it out with one of them like if you only get a “click” of clearance. But really only for the home user.
@mikey9164
@mikey9164 2 жыл бұрын
Would be cool to see these tested with a breaker bar!
@Parents_of_Twins
@Parents_of_Twins 2 жыл бұрын
Wow 35 ft/lbs when I was younger I would have broken that so many times and would probably still unintentionally break that thing using a 3/8" ratchet maybe even a 1/4". Thanks for saving me some money because they looked plausibly useful.
@MrNastytrucker44
@MrNastytrucker44 2 жыл бұрын
My snap on dealer has been trying to sell me this item for awhile now. I've been waiting for you guys to do this. Thank you for your videos and thanks for helping to make my purchasing choices a lot easier!
@Troyvidihoo
@Troyvidihoo 2 жыл бұрын
I think that in order to get full torque transfer the extender casing must be rigidly connected to the gearcase of the impact driver. Clearly any rotation allowed between the cases reduces power though the chain, and is impossible to stop by hand. Even more torque is lost by the same effect on the fastener end, the torque again will be spent on the path of least resistance which is definitely moving the tool before one can react to prevent it. (of course as offered there is no provision on either product to connect them together, but no doubt if it was made part of the drivers case, and the extender end rigidly supported on the workpeice, much more impressive performance would be gained. I enjoyed your video and knowledge gained from it.
@ayhenterencio553
@ayhenterencio553 Жыл бұрын
the slack in the chain i think absorb majority of the energy the impact give each blow
@justenrobinson7144
@justenrobinson7144 2 жыл бұрын
Would be cool to see an accuracy series with torque wrenches.
@theboat9311
@theboat9311 2 жыл бұрын
That 1st one tested would be good for the dash of cars... ive lost a few knuckles fixing car heaters
@hoxviii
@hoxviii Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see this retested with air impacts instead of electric - to see if the higher BPM from the electric causes issues like it does with torque sticks. Big hits slow vs little hits fast.
@drummerstar1190
@drummerstar1190 Жыл бұрын
I think this will work in every day auto work to remove smaller bolts that in tight spaces but not anything above 17mm
@ConSeann3ry
@ConSeann3ry 6 ай бұрын
There are a lot more of these on amazon now. Hoping you could do an update and see if there are any new contenders.
@chrispritchard7977
@chrispritchard7977 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if something like a worm drive wouldn't allow for better transfer than a chain.
@MisterCOM
@MisterCOM 3 ай бұрын
Hkk also seems to have some single speed bicycle chains for keirin racing 😊 Kmc makes fine chains but they are hampered by wanting to be universal something which is made purposefully difficult by the big 3 bicycle companies which abandoned cross compatibility after when the first 12 speed drivetrains came around.
@IBEDAVE87
@IBEDAVE87 2 жыл бұрын
I have the Mac one and it's awesome. Bailed us out here at the bus garage.
@RyTrapp0
@RyTrapp0 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty insane that Snap-Off charges over $200 for some steel rectangular tube, a couple glorified sprockets, and a length of chain. I mean... wow...
@yerbiggdady
@yerbiggdady 2 жыл бұрын
I would use Super Lube in the MAC & call it good . Most performance for the money & serviceable too .
@ranger175a2w
@ranger175a2w 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks from Texas TTC
@laundrupatton208
@laundrupatton208 Жыл бұрын
For me for home use on my vehicle's I don't think nothing is over 150 lb of torque to remove a bolt or nut. I don't even think calibers , struts and shocks would be a problem. So I will probably purchase the Mac tool properly maintenance by cleaning it out and adding a little friction Greece.
@Yamatool
@Yamatool 2 жыл бұрын
These extenders I've seen and always Wondered how they would work. What comes to mind is the top mount bolts for airbags on bulker super b trailers. Cant even see them let alone fit a wrench. The best way usually is to snap the studs out but you can't even fit a stubby impact.
@Kincentc
@Kincentc Жыл бұрын
You made a mention of the snap on multiplying torque.... But the input end is the bigger sprocket, no?
@Sir_Tachyon
@Sir_Tachyon 2 жыл бұрын
I’m curious if a gear train would be a more efficient and robust way to build one of these. Obviously it’d be a more expensive and heavy tool tho.
@cowboy41231
@cowboy41231 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. metal shavings eh? So now I wonder 🤔 if a good test "for science" would be trying different lubricating oils on the sprockets/chains to see if there is a measurable different in torque transfer? Like the old school Lucas oil display "gears" marketing item I used to constantly play with as a kid 😆
@wrenchposting9097
@wrenchposting9097 2 жыл бұрын
I would try damping grease if I was using an impact on it.
@503fabnjitz
@503fabnjitz 2 жыл бұрын
I was really hoping you’d dust off that 1” IR and make ‘em all break. Ya know, for science.
@nuclearmistake666
@nuclearmistake666 2 жыл бұрын
How about the 1/2in one? Got these for the father in law for Christmas. hopefully they're good enough for small engine use!
@98integraGSR
@98integraGSR 2 жыл бұрын
I wanna see one of these, but 1) using gears, and 2) with some gear reduction built in to combat thr inherent losses associated with torque transfer. sure, you may wind up "underdriving" it a bit (say... 1.6:1 or so), but you could have a much more compact tool that does its intended job (accessing remote fasteners) much more efficiently... Plus, you could build it to be MUCH more compact, making it that much easier to use.
@misermikemodifies3827
@misermikemodifies3827 2 жыл бұрын
I'd really like to make a gear driven one with mechanical advantage
@mikemagures4979
@mikemagures4979 2 жыл бұрын
I would buy the snap on. It appears to be the most robust and it is made here.
@itsmatt2105
@itsmatt2105 Жыл бұрын
Don't count on it, lots of "Proudly Made In USA!" brands like Harley have most of the sub-assemblies or even the entire bike built in China and only the final few assembly steps performed in the US.
@andrewscott8892
@andrewscott8892 2 жыл бұрын
If you like your Matco ratchet them you should check out Armstrong Maxx ratchets, you can get a nos or used ones on eBay. Same ratchet but a more elegant look and nicer handle
@barretharms655
@barretharms655 Жыл бұрын
How sad that out of four options there's only one option that you don't have to modify in order to use professionally. However now that I understand that putting money into a quality chain is most necessary for making this tool in that sprockets are no better than the sprocket races that they set in. The price of the tools are becoming very clear, reasonable
@MarzNet256
@MarzNet256 2 жыл бұрын
Cool. I though some might have a series of idler gears instead of sprockets and chain.
@djrenault
@djrenault 2 жыл бұрын
this video was helpful, i know now that i'm not gonna be buying something like this because i can't justify the price of a non-junk one for how often i might use it lol. i suppose the Mac is probably where my optimizing strategy would land me if i did want one.
@boosted2.4_sky
@boosted2.4_sky 2 жыл бұрын
I think what it meant was "rated to 400 foot-pounds" of impacting on the tool not what it's specific output is...🤔
@nizzurtmontalgizzert3337
@nizzurtmontalgizzert3337 2 жыл бұрын
I have been over the years becoming a unbeliever in snap-on tools, this however seems to be a redemption for them, that is a high quality tool. Next time the rape wagon shows up I might just have to pick one up
@for2utube
@for2utube 2 жыл бұрын
I think I'd stick with the Mountain universal spline ratcheting MTNRM6. I'm a DIY and haven't come across a fastener yet that I'd be willing to buy one of those you test, but, I appreciate your testing!
@alecb8509
@alecb8509 2 жыл бұрын
Spline tools are a good way to round over fasteners. The right tool for the job is rarely a universal tool.
@rando5673
@rando5673 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting that they all use chains. I would have used gears myself when designing a tool like this
@rileyreed5902
@rileyreed5902 2 жыл бұрын
Hi there I believe you tested them incorrectly. The tool usually has stopping point so that the drive end can apply power. Not just able to still rotate. Simulating a confined area
@matthewdupuis232
@matthewdupuis232 Жыл бұрын
Pausing a year old video so I can leave a comment (how sad), but you could have used a torque wrench on the input to give a proper input/output ratio of power transfer. However, I imagine the issue with power transfer when using it by hand is not that of friction but that of leverage.
@anthonyacosta5336
@anthonyacosta5336 2 жыл бұрын
Wonder if they will ever come out with a 1/2" drive model..
@billynomates920
@billynomates920 2 жыл бұрын
it's an arms race! the more tight reaches and wobble extensions the tool companies make, the more bmw engineers think: "mmmmm...."
@jesseparkhurst3037
@jesseparkhurst3037 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder how one of these kind of tools would perform if it had gears instead of a chain.
@iGaRaai90
@iGaRaai90 2 жыл бұрын
I always imagined they were gears inside. Didn't know they were chain.
@rocketsurgeon11
@rocketsurgeon11 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't there a brand that uses gears inside instead of chains? I'd be interested to see how that does.
@jozsefizsak
@jozsefizsak 2 жыл бұрын
I wasn't aware of these devices but after seeing your tests, I'm definitely OK with traditional tools going forward.
@SeanReevesD
@SeanReevesD 2 жыл бұрын
With the MAC, the female end being a larger diameter than the socket end is a mechanical DISadvantage, is it not?
@billynoose7714
@billynoose7714 2 жыл бұрын
I've had the thor on the 3/8 mac one haven't broke it yet
@kylefowler5082
@kylefowler5082 2 жыл бұрын
Tite reach really gives out confusing marketing in general. They pretend you can use an impact with it and not lose power but not actually say that, it's deceptive at best. Additionally if you read their customer testimonials most talk about how it saved them time when reassembling something and they forgot to put a bolt in so they used the tool to install an awkward bolt versus extensive disassembly. It's been a while but I remember most testimonials talk about helping the customer fix a screw up of their own making, I don't think this tool was ever really imagined to help you break an awkward bolt loose but Tite reach won't tell you that!
@davidedgerly
@davidedgerly Жыл бұрын
I LOVE THIS CHANNEL...
@albertlawrence9357
@albertlawrence9357 2 жыл бұрын
Could you guys test the Cal-van part no 450 as a gear driven comparison?
@vanillaice5443
@vanillaice5443 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if a worm gear design would work better
@Tkkalas
@Tkkalas 2 жыл бұрын
Can you test a couple other versions of this? Particularly the ABN and the ARES from Amazon. Since these work at all im curious to know if theres a cheaper version of this that performs similarly to the truck ones. i can see this useful in a few very rare cases.
@TorqueTestChannel
@TorqueTestChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Have used an Amazon metal case one before and it broke ss easy as the DIY one here by hand
@iStayKrafty
@iStayKrafty 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, some of the top tier racers in the world generate enough torque to snap these chains.
@dylanyancey7503
@dylanyancey7503 2 жыл бұрын
Still wanna see some heat gun comparisons mainly wanna know if the craftsman and dewalt are the same and would love to know wich brand makes the best heat gun for the money
@pleappleappleap
@pleappleappleap 8 ай бұрын
It seems as though keeping a 1:1 drive ratio on this kind of adapter doesn't serve much of a purpose.
@Dingus420
@Dingus420 2 жыл бұрын
How do you animate those graphes? Do you have a sensor hooked up to the trigger of the gun so that when the trigger is disengaged it marks torque readings to disregard or something?
@vanceplace1349
@vanceplace1349 2 жыл бұрын
Brought to you by Milwaukee
@wallacegrommet9343
@wallacegrommet9343 2 жыл бұрын
The internal stresses on that device must be huge. Massive frictional losses.
@turboflush
@turboflush 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting.. Never bothered with one yet... Always just used long wratchet.
@NCISGibbs88
@NCISGibbs88 Жыл бұрын
In all your research, which would you say is the most compact? I'm in aviation, and the smaller the better, to a certain extent lol
@ThadrinC
@ThadrinC 2 жыл бұрын
Will you be testing the new makita xwt16z?
@born2wrench
@born2wrench Жыл бұрын
Why did you use a smaller impact on the snapon
@michaelblanc5200
@michaelblanc5200 Жыл бұрын
I'd say above tests don't make a sense... If you know how hammer action effect works from physics standpoint then there is a flywheel mass creates that torque everyone loves so much. What you're trying to do here by using hammering action tool over extensions is you're disconnecting that torque created by hammer/flywheel over light mass plastic frame (+ low mass chain) extender and losing that hammering torque on destination sprocket. I don't believe these extenders designed for transferring torque of air/electric hammer action tools, at least this definitely applies for TiteReach due to their plastic frames. But it's at some point more efficient, but still far from ideal for SnapOn extender due to made of heavier steel frame + chain. The higher mass of still parts (Chain + gears) is better torque transference to destination. For the best performance there should be something like a secondary hammer attached to a destination sprocket which will receive that torque and applies it to a nut or bolt to achieve the better performance, some kind of torque repeater. And mass of the parts of extender should be consistent or matched to the mass of the hammer of airgun (or electric). So, above tests would be fair on static torque applied by hand ONLY as none of the tested tools designed for using with hammering power tools, not 100% on SnapOn though, probably can be used, but don't expect good efficiency even it's a SnapOn extender and definitely not a TiteReach.
@johndeerekid167
@johndeerekid167 2 жыл бұрын
Kinda thought about making one of these, but using 2 right angle gearboxes and a shaft. Direct drive baby! Would likely transfer more impacts and be a lot heavier. Not sure it would be compact enough to be useful though.
@casemodder89
@casemodder89 2 жыл бұрын
i blew serval of these hex drive right angle gearboxes with an impact. (quality ones) so for actual 3/8 or 1/2 impacts you're most likely looking at something like an angel grinder gearbox in size.
@chriscas-ToolAficionado
@chriscas-ToolAficionado 2 жыл бұрын
I have the Tite-reach 'professional' model and an old Made-in-USA Bluepoint model. They've been absolutely handy for certain jobs. A definite time time-saver (and money-maker for the professional). I only use them on small fasteners though. Never seen an impact; only a cordless ratchet. Use a breaker bar/long ratchet to break the fastener loose, then use these tools to conveniently zip them off/on.
@Wesleystewart78
@Wesleystewart78 2 жыл бұрын
If course I find this video 2 days to late I would have loved to have one of these for the upper control arm bolts on the trailblazer I was working on
@mrfarmer532
@mrfarmer532 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I appreciate your comment.
@narcolepticlex
@narcolepticlex Жыл бұрын
That’s how I would use it also.
@toyorover1313
@toyorover1313 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder how a chain tensioner on a thumb screw would affect the power transfer. Pre tensioning the chain might allow for better transfer especially as things wear and get sloppy.
@adamhakimji6461
@adamhakimji6461 2 жыл бұрын
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m not sure if that would help. Theoretically one side of the chain will always be under tension ,and since you can’t push a chain, the tension of the other side doesn’t matter. Right?
@shanehoffman7975
@shanehoffman7975 2 жыл бұрын
@@adamhakimji6461 torque lost is impact torque. Any bit of play within the sprocket and chain will lose power. If you put a 1/8” shank in a 1/4” hole, there’s 1/8” of wiggle room that allows something like an impact to wiggle.
@toyorover1313
@toyorover1313 2 жыл бұрын
Impact guns will cause the sprocket to move in both directions. The slop in the chain then needs to be taken up on the next impact. Reducing this 'bounce' back and forth would improve transfer. These are already hugely inefficient tools in terms of transfer. I don't think the added friction of a tensioner would be worse than the increased mechanical connection from the tighter chain.
@matthewolson9704
@matthewolson9704 2 жыл бұрын
@@toyorover1313 agreed that it would keep the chain slap down between impact blows. When using it with hand tools or a cordless ratchet I think it would matter much less. A small Delrin block with a pair of springs behind it would be all you'd need
@stans5270
@stans5270 2 жыл бұрын
"Hand tool driven action Which coincidently what I refer to my early 20's as a period of." Awkward teen humor never gets old.
@esnebta
@esnebta 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao I had to scroll through the comments to make sure nobody failed to mention this gem
@enlightenedrenegade472
@enlightenedrenegade472 2 жыл бұрын
Notification squad
@KyleRepinski
@KyleRepinski 2 жыл бұрын
Assemble!
@4321Lando
@4321Lando 2 жыл бұрын
That would be such a fun tool to make the right way; roller bearings, high quality sprockets, a tensioner between sprockets to take up chain slack, straight chain path on driven side of sprockets, etc.
@markarmstrong3394
@markarmstrong3394 Жыл бұрын
I would make it for 3/4" air impacts 🤣
@RedShiftedDollar
@RedShiftedDollar 9 ай бұрын
Roller bearings concentrate stress at single point loads, so those are definitely not the way to go if you want to build this impact tool the right way...
@4321Lando
@4321Lando 9 ай бұрын
Not sure if you’re thinking of ball bearings… From google: “roller bearings, with their larger contact area, are ideal for applications with heavy radial loads….” Seems like a roller bearing is ideal for these tools. What am I missing?
@joel387ktm
@joel387ktm 5 ай бұрын
Is a multi direction tool you would be putting load on your tensioning system going one of the ways either fwd or rev depending on how you engineered it
@joel387ktm
@joel387ktm 5 ай бұрын
​@@RedShiftedDollari believe semi axles use tapered roller bearings correct me if im wrong i think they could handle the power of a impact
@TechGorilla1987
@TechGorilla1987 2 жыл бұрын
Finished watching the video - all of these 'tools' are going to be hard passes. Thanks for the review.
@TheXxRenzxX
@TheXxRenzxX 2 жыл бұрын
In all honesty, I thought those extenders used a gear train to transmit power. I wonder how a gear set extender would compare to chain driven one, if they exist out there.
@JCWren
@JCWren 2 жыл бұрын
Given the width of the wrench, you'd be looking at 5 or 6 gears, at least. The lash in the gear chain would transmit but a small fraction of the power from an impact wrench. If you're using it with a torque wrench (which applies a lot more smooth, even torque), it'd probably be OK.
@mission772
@mission772 2 жыл бұрын
Gear train would less efficient and weaker. A chain is capable of engaging multiple teeth at a time. A gear set only full engages 1 tooth.
@ionstorm66
@ionstorm66 2 жыл бұрын
Chain is fine, it just needs some sort of tensioner
@AddictionAuto
@AddictionAuto 2 жыл бұрын
You would have a severe loss of torque with gears.
@2009rummell
@2009rummell 2 жыл бұрын
A worm gear drive would be the best
@stevenlatham4397
@stevenlatham4397 2 жыл бұрын
That was a fantastic video. I’ve been more curious about those more than any tool in the tool world. I’ve seen them used successfully, and myself have had one save my day, but never in a high torque, or heavy corrosion situation. You guys creating reliable measurements was highly informative, and now we all know their true capabilities. Thank you.
@xBirdManDriZZyx7
@xBirdManDriZZyx7 2 жыл бұрын
I'd go with the tight reach pro. As an engineer and being my own DIY mechanic, it is rare for me working on a car to need to apply over 50 to 60 left of force in such tight spaces. Wish you could've used a breaker bar to really test the torque figures under constant tension. It is very inefficient impacting one mechanism like this
@piciu256
@piciu256 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@hypercube33
@hypercube33 Жыл бұрын
Same
@narcolepticlex
@narcolepticlex Жыл бұрын
I agree
@Acaidia
@Acaidia 2 жыл бұрын
Just one thing I noticed is that the chain the Snap On uses is $48 for a 10ft roll, not for the amount that each tool uses. So estimating that each extender uses 24 inches of chain, that's $9.60 worth of chain per unit at retail. Also it's safe to assume that Snap On paid a lower price per foot because they likely bought thousands of feet of chain. While it's true that the Snap On performed the best its comical to pretend like it's fairly priced. I'd guess that those extenders cost them $10-$20 each to manufacture.
@slasher9883
@slasher9883 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty much the case with all Snap-on tools. Good tools but not that good that they justify their ridiculous pricing,
@matthewolson9704
@matthewolson9704 2 жыл бұрын
@@slasher9883 depends on how you use them. I still say they are king when it comes to hand tools. Ratchets, sockets, wrenches, hammers are all built to last, warranty is king, and the little things like Flank Drive Plus make it all worth it 👌🏻
@Wesleystewart78
@Wesleystewart78 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah look into the video showing a certain model fap off Jack which is the extract same as the Daytona from hobo freight and they were charging close to 3x as much
@matthewolson9704
@matthewolson9704 2 жыл бұрын
@@Wesleystewart78 you mean the one that was copied by HFT which lead to a lawsuit? 🤣
@KennyCrawford426
@KennyCrawford426 2 жыл бұрын
@@matthewolson9704 Public records show that the jack (s) in question were purchased from an overseas production facility by both Snap-on and Harbor Freight. Neither company copied the other as neither one actually produced or designed it. They were just marketed under two different names brands. Additionally, the lawsuit that Snap-on filed was tried and Snap-on lost.
@mikethetoolman8776
@mikethetoolman8776 2 жыл бұрын
sell a lot of the mac ones and I only fixed one in all the time we have been selling them. hard to get but work and hold up well. mac has a bogo on them also once or twice a year and sells all 3 drives also
@meme5887
@meme5887 2 жыл бұрын
When do they tend to run their bogo? Any particular holiday or time of year?
@mikethetoolman8776
@mikethetoolman8776 2 жыл бұрын
@@meme5887 last time was early 2021. they just came back into stock so maybe first qtr 2022??
@GeorgeJFW
@GeorgeJFW 2 жыл бұрын
would be interesting to see those 90 degree adapters for impact drivers get this same treatment, great video
@omaristephens2143
@omaristephens2143 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was going to say. I have a non-impact-rated DeWalt that hasn't given up the ghost even after some pretty stuck bolts. And it's been an absolute lifesaver for control arm bolts (I don't live in the rust belt, thank goodness)
@soconoha
@soconoha Жыл бұрын
Would love to see a strictly gear driven version. I imagine the flexibility of the chain kills the torque transfer.
@inuyashacoolieo
@inuyashacoolieo 2 жыл бұрын
This would probably work better with a series of gears rather than a chain and sprockets. Once you take out all the backlash in the gears there is a lot less stretching and lost torque. You could even have some gear reduction by making the output gear slightly larger.
@MarkBarrett
@MarkBarrett 2 жыл бұрын
I designed something like this 20 years ago, but couldn't find anyone to build it.
@seymoarsalvage
@seymoarsalvage 2 жыл бұрын
Its ironic that you used Eric the Car Guys footage, as his video is where I first seen this tool. And 'till this day I remember Eric saying that the company that sent him the product told him not to take it apart... I have been wanting to see someone on youtube buy one with there own money to take apart ever since 😂
@dclfarms6204
@dclfarms6204 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been looking at these and trying to decide which one I want. Putting a transmission back in to it would have been perfect. This video was perfect timing. Thanks for doing what y’all do.
@johngregory662
@johngregory662 2 жыл бұрын
What a great video. I always wondered how good those things are, they would come in handy in my line of work. One thing, I haven’t looked: are there other manufacturers out there that make these things? Maybe some will be geared and not chain driven?? Live confidently and peacefully
@fatdiesel44
@fatdiesel44 5 ай бұрын
Your test earned Mac Tools a sale, was going to go cheaper but your video helped me make a more informed purchase. Thank you!!
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