Dzogchen Teaching Mexico Jackson Peterson Part 4

[@Uma_Stellar]

Jax I appreciate your explanations and pointings out. Thank you for the helpful teachings.

[@Dhammadasi]

Great pointing out! Thanks!

[@MagdiNonDuality]

Great teaching.

[@jesuisravi]

Jackson, is the session of this retreat that followed this session recorded? If so, can it be uploaded? I practice this before sleep and after waking looking exercise and I would be interested in hearing the participants experiences with it.

[@jlareaux5504]

So good! Thx

[@jlareaux5504]

The zen poet Huang Po said "you cannot use the Buddha to seek the Buddha"..in other words to seek the Buddha, or traits of the Buddha is to deny your true nature which is the Buddha. To spend a great deal of time in meditation would serve to only re-enforce the meditator. I get the sense that once realization is pointed out and fully grocked, one can call off the search. Ramana said "the seeker is the sought". It doesn't seem to make sense to me to search for what you are. All you can do is be it anyhow right? You can't know what you are but you can know what you're not. St Francis said "what's looking is what you're looking for." Why would what's looking need to search for itself unless it was under the false impression that was somehow not what is looking and that it needs to find itself to know itself or graft some esteemed qualities unto itself? Maybe I've listened to one too many Advaita Vedanta talks, lol. This seems to me to be the difference between Dzogchen and Advaita, but I'm likely to be wrong. These talks you have posted have been very helpful. Thank you!

[@ejackpete3]

J LaReaux Actually , it’s dependent upon if the illusory self is thinking it is “it”. “I am it”. But that which is sought is only known when the apparent seeker is absent. The seeker isnt the sought, it’s a projection of the sought.

[@jlareaux5504]

Jackson Peterson I see what you mean. That makes sense and feels true to my experience. Thanks!

[@jlareaux5504]

@@ejackpete3 So in the spiritual seeking, an individual is like the flashlight that can shine light on everything that it is not. The flashlight cannot shine itself on itself. The knowing is the animation that gives life to the body/mind but yet the body mind are yet another object that the light shines on. The mistake of spiritual seeking is the false belief that the flashlight can shine on an object that the flashlight can use to "enlighten" itself or use to make the flashlight somehow better or more "of spirit". If one collapses attention in on itself through self inquiry as someone like Nisargadatta would recommend or through Dzogchen practice, this is the goal. Isn't it Dzogchen that is known as "taking the goal as the path"? Am I understanding this correctly or even close to correctly? Thank you for taking the time to respond to my questions. I really appreciate it. Marry x-mas

[@viaesta]

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[@joetize]

XLNT _/\_ Thanx!!!

[@alfonsotriguero]

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