E.C.E. Primus Reform smoothing plane

[@Antiqueexcavator]

Wow, I just acquired 2 E.C.E. Planes at a local estate sale for $80. 1 a primus 701p and the other is a jointer plane. Each is 23 1/2” long in great shape (one looks new) and are just beautiful tools! So glad they brought me to your channel! Love your content!

[@Antiqueexcavator]

Love the one handed skills!

[@twcmaker]

Did I go 'rogue' one handed again 🙈 I really shouldn't "It'll end in tears", they used to say.

[@Antiqueexcavator]

So well made!

[@twcmaker]

Pretty well made. Yes.

[@Christopher_Giustolisi]

They also made a 60cm long jointer following the same principle. It´s kind of rare but if you´re lucky and patient you can maybe get one. It´s just the best for flattening boards because it glides so easily.

[@twcmaker]

Thank you Christopher. Yes they are lovely. Very cool, big and expensive too. Have you subscribed?

[@TheWoodDoodler]

What a thoroughly interesting video! Looking forward to the next installment!

[@twcmaker]

See if I can get a bit done for Wednesday 06:00. Thank you Andrew

[@twcmaker]

It would be great if I could get a few more followers though this video.

[@totherarf]

3 Points of contact ....... So simple, yet not all do it!

[@twcmaker]

Works really well on here and as I say Karl Holtey method too. We'll see how well it works after repairs.

[@redlancer38]

My woodworking teacher at school was the spitting image of Rab C Nesbitt and walked around the class with a 3ft length of dowel. He was always on the prowl for any reprobate that might leave their plane upright. Any offender would feel the sting of the dowel. It became the class prank to set some poor sod's plane upright on the bench and just let events take their course. Can't wait to see the Primus in action.

[@twcmaker]

Blimey Paul. Another era wasn't it. Mine was quite nice to me as I think he liked my Mom 😂 Yes the Primus will get a little done and a few videos. I can't wait to personalise it. Lose that bit of filler, smooth off some 'corners' and add a bit of.. We will see 😉

[@twcmaker]

Paul, do you think the thumbnail is ok? Should I move the g-clamp out of the shot?

[@redlancer38]

@@twcmaker Yes another era. I did both Metalwork and Woodwork at school. Sadly not taught today.

[@redlancer38]

@@twcmaker IMO, just keep the two planes.

[@twcmaker]

The system is going totally the opposite way to where they want it to go. And they'll never learn.

[@whitlockwoodendesigns1858]

Thank you very interesting. What is it like to use? What are the benefits over a Stanley 4 or transitional plane? Maybe you will say in the follow up videos.

[@twcmaker]

Hi. I've still not had chance to set it up and complete it. Trying to juggle commissions, teaching, family, and home stuff and build a KZbin channel is a lot. Should be more in the next few weeks/months on planes. Jamie

[@jammywesty91]

I think there's a lot to be said for the dexterity that German style front handle would afford you, especially when canting the plane. Inspiring me to make my own eventually.

[@twcmaker]

I've got too much on at the moment. But I will return to these planes and tune them some more. Get the very best from them. Thanks for watching. Jamie 👍

[@jimbo2629]

I have a simplified version of this. It cost me £10 in a junk shop. I put some foam behind the rear”tote”. I agree they need customising for comfort. The other huge positive is the superb quality of the blade. No backlash is a huge plus for me as I find it really annoying. There is a video on you tube showing them being made in Germany by a family business. I see you identify with Worcestershire but I detect a hint of black country or brum😊 Try planing Lingus vitae!

[@twcmaker]

That's cool. I need to do more with this plane. Busy atm. I'm from Worcestershire. My Workshop is in Stourbridge. Lots of accents pass through my workshop. Some might rub off. 👍

[@twcmaker]

You might like the latest video. A Tiny Thumb plane, not only cute, but Bronze and a rebate plane too. A very special little usable tool. You can watch it here kzbin.info/www/bejne/gICqqZ2lht5_gc0 Thank you Jamie

[@HansWurst12345]

until now never quite understood how they made the no backlash adjustment with a threaded rod. Really clever what they did. That plane is made since at least the 50 and yours is likely pre 1990

[@twcmaker]

It is really clever. I need to do a light restoration on mine and then customise it. By the way, mine was bought new in 2021. I've no way to work out how old the used one is.

[@twcmaker]

You might like the latest video. A Tiny Thumb plane, not only cute, but Bronze and a rebate plane too. A very special little usable tool. You can watch it here kzbin.info/www/bejne/gICqqZ2lht5_gc0 Thank you Jamie

[@timothymallon]

I've always been fascinated by the German style planes, but my only problem with the examples you have here is that plastic adjuster knob. Why would they go through the trouble of making a great plane, only to use a plastic knob on the end?

[@twcmaker]

I should think a metal knob wouldn't be cost effective. Maybe I should make a wooden knob. 🤔 Food for thought.

[@timothymallon]

@@twcmaker I would pay a few extra dollars for a metal knob. It's like Stanley selling their new standard No. 4 smoothing planes for 80 bucks and they have plastic totes and knobs. It's like they gave up caring.

[@twcmaker]

That's one way to look at it. While I'm not a fan of plastic, the wooden ones would take longer to produce. The ECE Primus plane sells 80% in Germany. So they're used to it being like that. 20% rest of the World is quite a small chunk really. And it it a tough kind of Bakellite plastic. So I'm ok with it. 🤔 I'd rather a wooden one than cold metal though.

[@twcmaker]

You might like the latest video. A Tiny Thumb plane, not only cute, but Bronze and a rebate plane too. A very special little usable tool. You can watch it here kzbin.info/www/bejne/gICqqZ2lht5_gc0 Thank you Jamie

[@pauljarine]

I agree that the used plane has hardly any use on it at all.

[@twcmaker]

Can't wait to move on with this plane... Other work has to be done first 🙈

[@twcmaker]

You might like the latest video. A Tiny Thumb plane, not only cute, but Bronze and a rebate plane too. A very special little usable tool. You can watch it here kzbin.info/www/bejne/gICqqZ2lht5_gc0 Thank you Jamie

[@jwmfatboy]

I inherited one from my father and it is a fine looking piece of equipment.There is one issue I can't figure out. The fine adjustment block on the bottom sticks out by about an 1/8". No matter what I do I can't get it to sit flush. Any recommendations.

[@jwmfatboy]

Ok, so i got interrupted while watching video and got over excited since i found a video of the exact one I got from my dad.. so i will check for damage tonight.

[@twcmaker]

You couldn't have got your timing better. I've just finished filming that part. There was a problem with this one by 1/32" And I've sorted it. Have you subscribed yet? Because the next video will suit you and a few others who can't work out this problem. It's not hard to fix. Thanks for watching. Jamie

[@jwmfatboy]

@@twcmaker Yes, I am subscribed and thanks for the video on this tool.

[@twcmaker]

Great. After the adjustable mouth is sorted I'll be sharpening the iron, cleaning the other metal parts and making improvements if necessary.

[@jwmfatboy]

@The Worcestershire Cabinet Maker I just checked the adjuster on mine it looked worse than yours. Tried to squeeze glue in the gaps and now have it in vise hoping it goes back together..

[@Antiqueexcavator]

Wow, I just acquired 2 E.C.E. Planes at a local estate sale for $80. 1 a primus 701p and the other is a jointer plane. Each is 23 1/2” long in great shape (one looks new) and are just beautiful tools! So glad they brought me to your channel! Love your content!

[@twcmaker]

You've done very well. That's a great deal. Welcome tj the channel. Have you subscribed? Jamie