E-Flite Timber 3D and Bush Flying Demo

Had a blast putting some cycles through the new E-Flite Timber! This video has some acro (hovering, torque rolls, rolling circles, knifedge), as well as STOL flying (landing in a super confined area).
My set-up isn't fully stock. I have made two changes. The first is that I use an APC 12x6E prop. This prop truly increases the power-to-weight but does definitely put a load on the electronics, so flight time is down to about 5-6 minutes. The second primary mod was taking out the AS3X receiver (this receiver actually limits the travel on the ailerons). I also did a couple other minor mods. The first I did was I put some extra Multiplex Fun Cub tires on. My stock wheels were coming off the tires and were super off-balance so I just put the multiplex ones on and she was good to go. The final minor mod was moving all the control arm attachments to the points that would give me the most travel, mechanically (closest in on the control surface, furthest out on the servos). I did not use expo on this set up at the time as that's what I was used to.
I use a 3s 2200mah 50C battery.
Overall, I am super happy with the Timber.
Pros:
-Excellent 3D capability
-Great STOL capability, minor wing wag present but easy to deal with
-Landing gear system was designed very well
-Awesome aileron and flap concealed servo installation
-Slats do indeed have positive effect on reducing separation and maintaining laminar flow over wing at high angles of attack and low airspeeds
Cons:
-Aileron roll rate is very lethargic (if 3D is your primary cup of tea)
-Battery life is below industry average, even with stock 12x4 prop (about 6-7 minutes)
-Stock wheels came off tires after continual use
-Slats are fragile
-Really wish the battery hatch was on top. Can be a pain to replace battery as one person without a cradle
Overall, I'd highly recommend picking one up!

[@goaheadmakeourdayscooterpe9644]

Loved the bloopers , I thought I was the only one that had trees reach out and grab my planes on purpose.

[@incubrian]

every once in awhile you see someone who really nails it. GREAT flying my man!!

[@flyingfatcats517]

As a recipient of a Volantex T-45 for Christmas from a friend to try and get me back into RC (no way I'm flying that after all these years, and an EDF!), I'm now looking at the Timber or Tundra. Watching your awesome and skilled flying, I think I am sold on the Timber. Good stuff!

[@MrTurboparker]

Outstanding flying! Great job of demonstrating the plane's broad flight-envelope! :D

[@zedfourme5085]

Amazing flying. I wouldn't believe those hovers with only a prop if I didn't see them. Keep up the good work. You have a new subscriber.

[@RedDevilSquadron]

Thanks, Mike!

[@megmckenziefeist5243]

Amazing flying skill, made it look easy, also one best video's to watch not having to wait for plane to appear, always action!

[@christopherknee5756]

It was great to see a video of someone who can really fly well. Love your landings.

[@talkischeap7418]

“ Great Scott’s “ you are not human 🤖🦾🦿cyborg status 👍🏽

[@andrewborgogna7624]

The Timber really is a fun plane to own. I got mine for flying off water and it has lived up to my highest hopes. I now plan to put my mobius camera on it and get some videos at the pond. It's a 5 star plane.

[@waynegrauel1031]

Holy Cow.. I was blown away watching you fly.

[@LeZturbo]

Great skills !!! And so many trees where you fly !!!

[@Rodterraa]

Best timber video ever....

[@RedDevilSquadron]

Thanks! Definitely was a fun one to fly and edit haha

[@rcaviator8408]

Agreed

[@dronedadfpv4541]

Agree!!

[@scottdearmond4804]

wow , your skill level is amazing .

[@RedDevilSquadron]

Scott DeArmond Haha thanks, always learning! This plane is absolutely capable for beginners through advanced. Love it!

[@stevis8264]

I maidened mine two weeks ago. It is definitely designed for fun!

[@JacksonCopBlock]

Great flying! I liked the keyhole landing.

[@SkipBuiltRC]

Dude. That thing goes nuts with that prop on. I thought you were 4s'ing the thing. Cool Hovering. Thumbs up. Liked the straight up and landing thru the opening in the trees. Fantastic. *****

[@RedDevilSquadron]

Thanks man! Yeah, that 12x6 makes a huge difference, but again, the plane is just too heavy so I can't get good flight times on it. If it weighed 1/2 a pound less, you could use a 480 motor on a 12x6 an get nicer flight times and same performance. Weight is everything!

[@GLHS592]

OK, that does it. I'm getting one for sure. What a fun video to watch!

[@jacobreigle9176]

holy hell this man can really fly

[@Umaransari-ny6yo]

Wonderful...absolutely excellent flying sir..hats off to you

[@whodey59]

It's cool to know my Timber could do anything remotely like this....but that won't be happening. I would have a pile of Z-Foam.

[@mentuemhet]

practice in real flight 9 before doing the real thing

[@weasele1]

day 2 with my large timber > I have to say I think its the most fun plane yet I flew into dark with it also had to tweak the tail for maximum travel . highly recommended for a trainer

[@trondaustad8617]

This is real skill flying. Nice and funny video boys love it.😂❤

[@RedDevilSquadron]

Thanks, Trond! We no longer post to this channel anymore, check out our new channel, Tail Heavy Productions. Lots of fun bush flying there among other RC stuff. 🙂

[@trondaustad8617]

@@RedDevilSquadron my abonent is already ther. Been watching you boys for long time. But l had never seen this video before. Have a nice evening over there 😀

[@erad05]

Bravo! You really know how to fly. Impressive.

[@janrc]

Amazing! Incredible perfection of steering!

[@Helicopterpilot16]

I flew it a while without the slats then attacked them to make a comparison. I really don't see a benefit to them because the plane takes off and lands in short distances without. I like the benefit of speed. What ESC are you using?

[@chickenamburgsrc]

Tons of power thinking of getting one of these

[@chickenamburgsrc]

Is it me? Or does this thing have crazy amounts of power? How do you fly it slow like that and shoot straight up in the air and hover ?

[@RedDevilSquadron]

Hemi's Outdoor Adventures This is the stock motor on a 12x6 prop. It has plenty of power on this set up. The hover pop ups are just technique. Full flaps slow then punch power with up elevator while simultaneously putting the flaps up. Gets right into a hover

[@chickenamburgsrc]

RedDevilSquadron thanks!! Awesome flying!! Is this better then the eflite apprentice??

[@RedDevilSquadron]

Hemi's Outdoor Adventures Thanks! The apprentice is marketed as an entirely different kind of airplane. What are you looking for?

[@chickenamburgsrc]

RedDevilSquadron a good trainer. I've flown the flyzone beaver, sportsman s+ and a couple others just looking for something good

[@RedDevilSquadron]

Hemi's Outdoor Adventures Ok, if you can fly the planes you listed comfortably, the timber would be fine. The apprentice is more marketed as a first time airplane

[@camhollo1139]

this is amazing, simply amazing

[@STEVEJELLY]

Is that Tail Heavy Productions’ old field?

[@STEVEJELLY]

Oh wow I didn’t recognize him!

[@thane5665]

Have you metered the amp draw? Interested in what your ESC is maxing out at. (stock esc?) What size of lipo are you using ?

[@gianluca387]

They don t answer after 8 years!!! They aren t serious…

[@streborz]

Why the thumbs down? Video is exactly as titled and was edited well.

[@gianluca387]

How did you adjust the dual rates expo and servo travel? If you can tell me the values ​​you would be doing me a great favor, thank you

[@martypayne5650]

Ohhhh you're using a 50c 3 cell. If I didn't know that I would have guess you were using a 4 cell battery! 😂

[@UKPete]

Brilliant flying!

[@pacotheafricangrey1449]

Hey Mate! Very skillful flying! Respect! In the video you see, that the Timber is a bit more heavier in comparison to the MPX Funcub... The Timber needs more speed for slow flying... The Funcub is more agile I think... But I like the Timbers landing gear... I looks more solid... The hard drops on the ground after Torque Roll would kill the Funcubs Prop for sure. But it seems that you have a lot of fun with this plane ;-) I'm wondering, that the stock motor has so much power!

[@DougSimmonsYay]

AWESOME video and flying! Thanks! Damn!

[@nctb3429]

3:10 How do you even get a plane to rotate that way?

[@adenw.4430]

stall spin

[@FlyingPolak]

Awesome video dude I really enjoyed it.

[@farsproductions3749]

There’s a guy that can fly!

[@shckltnebay]

Was that all the same plane? Looked like the edge tips were on in some shots and not others, again great flying. Getting one this week end and want to know should I order the wing edges or not?

[@RedDevilSquadron]

Eric sin sinner - When you say edge tips do you mean the leading edge slats? This entire video was shot with the same airplane, no changes were made.

[@shckltnebay]

***** Ok yes I meant edge tips, decided on the Super Cub S2 Park Zone bnf

[@CalebT_RC]

So what’s better for the original timber, the 13x4 or the 12x6E

[@jonestown1978]

Great skills flying. I just switched out my stock prop to the 12x6. If I fly it at a normal speed and not full throttle would I burn up my esc or would it just be warm to the touch. Really don't want to go back to the stock prop or add a new esc to handle the load for simple flying around.

[@bensonmilam6022]

What type of tires do you have on it? The original ones wobble a lot and suck.

[@lowered18]

Nice flying

[@alexenns3203]

Great flying

[@nicholasflyboymiller68]

Nice video and skills... Is this a stock set up and 3s or 4? Also I subscribed because of thia video.. I will be following you all closely thanks!

[@RedDevilSquadron]

Thanks! Check out the video description for all specs.

[@rossrcfallacaro3422]

When you did that full throttle, hit the wall hover, did you just jam the elevator back and lower throttle until it was hovering under the prop? I got MAD questions as I’m just getting back into the hobby after being out about 25 years -36 now. 3D flying was pretty limited in the late 80s and early 90s. I mean, yeah we did knife edges, rolls, etc, but some of this 3D is NUTS!!

[@RedDevilSquadron]

Ross Fallacaro Are you referring to the on the ground stopped to full throttle, takeoff, and hover? If so, the trick is to start the takeoff roll with full flaps which will raise the nose much quicker with power in, and then the second the plane is almost vertical, suck the flaps up.

[@paulballard4243]

Who ever thought you could do that with that plane. I have one and can’t even fly it straight forward let alone what you’re doing with it lol

[@jimgroves7981]

You are one Wild and Crazy guy! Flying and landing in the tress and on a path with less than 10' clearance?!! Not bad for your first time flying.. LMAO!!! :)

[@RedDevilSquadron]

Jim Groves lol thx!

[@adamcrookedsmile]

Great flying. I've practised quite a bit with Realflight 7.5 simulator and was hoping to bypass the "pure trainer" plane and go straight to this one as it seems very able to fly slowly and also do some aerobatics. Is this a viable approach, or is a pure trainer "a must"?

[@rossrcfallacaro3422]

When you were doing those flat turns, where you just feeding rudder or rudder and opposite aileron?

[@RedDevilSquadron]

Ross Fallacaro Cross control. As much rudder as opposite aileron would allow

[@rossrcfallacaro3422]

RedDevilSquadron thanks for the response! I think I must’ve watched every single video out there on the timber and the umx timber. I could not help myself and ordered both. Just getting back into the hobby after 25 years and these EPA foam planes are much more forgiving then all the balsa builds I did back in the day. Thanks for the reply and when I get my timber - whichever one comes first this week - I’m gonna practice those flat turns because I think they look DOPE!!! This whole 3D thing is a new concept. Really was t doing too much 3D flying in the 80s and 90s, well, not on purpose anyways... 😂😂😂. Please make more videos bradda! I’m subscribed to your channel

[@moviemanjlk0177]

YOUR FLYING SKILLS ARE AMAZING!!!!! I have a timber too but I don't think I can fly like that LOL 😁. What kind of prop do you use? And do you use the floats for it? I use the floats cause my runway is the water. But again amazing video , keep it up.

[@gianluca387]

They don t answer you after 4 years!!!! Mah….

[@protikbanerjee9323]

Hi awesome control. What motor & ESC are you using.

[@RedDevilSquadron]

protik banerjee Thanks! All info on the set up is in the video description

[@musk-eteer9898]

wow, that's good stuff

[@3dprintingguru378]

Hi, you said you put Fun Cub tires on, from wich size Fun Cub are they? Nice flying btw!

[@reptilewizz]

What wheels do you have on it? They don’t look like the stock ones? I have a timber X and wish the wheels were a little bigger.

[@RedDevilSquadron]

Check out the video description for all details on the plane

[@reptilewizz]

Ahhh I see my bad haha

[@mbrayson11]

Great flying !!! Are you using the APC 12x6E prop or the APC 12x6 sport prop ?

[@RedDevilSquadron]

Thanks! 12x6E

[@mbrayson11]

Thanks

[@austntexan]

How do you rate this against your Fun Cub? Love watching you fly, really inspiring!

[@caseypudwell9756]

Hey fellow Timber user, I have a question - how did you get such an awesome climb angle at 1:15 ?That was like an instantaneous 90 degree turn straight up.Is your motor more powerful than stock - or did you adjust flap angles - or ....???1:15-1:30 was the footage that sold me on the Timber - but I couldn't replicate that awesome maneuver

[@RedDevilSquadron]

Check out the description for my set-up. All stock minus the upgraded prop.

[@kronchyrodriguez]

Crazy nice moves

[@RedDevilSquadron]

kronchy rodriguez Thanks!

[@jackieochoa-rogerson3968]

is this stock or did you mod this airplane?

[@RedDevilSquadron]

Jackie Ochoa-Rogerson Check out the video description for details on the plane, hope it helps

[@Abderrahmane_Aitouche]

Bravo pilote

[@rickywoods3101]

You must of got a hot motor and esc from factory if it's stock. Unless your running 4s. Because I have flown plenty of 3d and my timber is alittle shy of maintaining on the recommended 3s

[@RedDevilSquadron]

Ricky Woods no sir. Warm, yes. Not hot. I’ve put hundreds of cycles on this set up. 3s, stock motor and esc, and a 12x6 prop. The stock prop is a 12x4, with barely enough pull to hover even at full throttle. The extra 2 inches of pitch helps a ton. It’s not quite 2:1 thrust but it works for basic 3D.

[@rickywoods3101]

@@RedDevilSquadron ok, cool. I wasn't talking about temp. hot by the way . I was meaning if everything was stock it had to be hot as in more powerful than most from the factory. Thanks,

[@silversrt4ken]

Good job!

[@44Mag]

Great stick skills....Thanks

[@JacobScherer]

Dude, you have some mad skills! Do you have a different recommendation for someone looking at a STOL craft in this size, or is this the one to get?

[@RedDevilSquadron]

Thanks! I'd highly suggest this guy or the Fun Cub. Either or. Both great airplanes!

[@airider2]

Just flew mine today. It's stock out of the box and is not near as fast as yours. Can't get it to hover and the rolls are slooow, and loops sloow too. Might have to go to a bigger motor and ESC to get mine to hover, knife edge, and roll like yours

[@RedDevilSquadron]

Nope, just up the prop pitch by 2". Check out the description for more info. :)

[@royd7984]

How long have you been flying RC planes? You're have very good 3D skills. I really enjoyed your video.

[@RedDevilSquadron]

Thanks! I started flying R/C about 12 years ago from today, or 8 years before this video was filmed.

[@jdouglasj2000]

Have you flown the Night Timber X, and if so, how does it compare to this plane?

[@RedDevilSquadron]

I've owned and subsequently sold a Timber X. It's too heavy to do what they designed it to do. Not light enough for 3D and too heavy for STOL as well. Even the regular Turbo Timber is a bit heavy too (RIP OG Fun Cub for the proper low wing loading) but it's the best out there as of now unless the OG FunCub comes back from the ashes.

[@jdouglasj2000]

@@RedDevilSquadron Someone on RCGroups said he put a TT wing on his Night Timber X and now it STOLs as well as a TT. But I think he said the weight on his Franken-Timber is the same as it was for his NTX even though he has a lot more wing area. Above you said the NTX was too heavy. But I thought the TT and the NTX had nearly the same fuselage. Can you tell me what accounts for the extra weight? I haven't had a chance to fly my NTX wiht the TT wing. Do you think this will work? I could always send the wing back and just order a TT, although I'd prefer the Franken-Timber if it'll fly like a TT.

[@dontflyspirit6535]

@@jdouglasj2000 They're similar if not same in terms of weight, 1.5m timbers have 559 instead of 523 square inches of wing area in a longer wing, which leads to better stol capabilities. No 3d or stol expert would recommend a night or day timber x.

[@bensonmilam6022]

How much different are the flying characteristics of the 1.5m and the umx Timber?

[@CalebT_RC]

With the different prop, would you say it’s worth it?

[@RedDevilSquadron]

💯

[@CalebT_RC]

@@RedDevilSquadron Sweet, I’ll let you know how goes when I do it myself

[@shalomjj]

Do you hover it on stock? I haven't been able to do that with mine. Great flying!!!!!!

[@RedDevilSquadron]

Jason Fawks Thanks! Check the video description for all details

[@squisi]

Very nice video! I just bought the Timber and I was wondering to put the slat on or not, but seems that are not going to affect the stunt manuvers at all ^^ Do you suggest to glue them on immediatly out of the box or try some flyes without and maybe decide later? Thanks!

[@RedDevilSquadron]

Lorenzo Scagnolari I've found no significant difference between flying it with them vs without them. I'd suggest leaving them off. They also make the plane much more fragile to transport if you leave them on.

[@squisi]

Great thanks a lot for the hint, I think I'll leave them off then! ;) ciao!

[@break3step807]

Lorenzo Scagnolari yeah I share your view reddevilsquadron!! I've got the timber too and it is the opposite of agile with slats xD!!

[@RuudyL]

Nice flying,, What do you think about the Carbon Cub S2 compared to this one or have you not flown the Cub S2

[@RedDevilSquadron]

Ruudy L Thanks! Carbon Cub S2 is purely targeted at new pilots. It won’t do quite as much and isn’t as capable on the slow flight side of things either.

[@mike_oe]

whopping great piloting!!!

[@franciscosepulvedavaron4199]

Nice fly dude excúseme 1 question pese for this video you brindó the plane whit as3x bind Mode. Or. Sade select mode ty for help. I así you because i bind. First the plane whit sale mode them. I ser the Safe. Select bit when i switch on off i feel the plane. Dont response well

[@FireyAfterburner]

Would you say it's more fun than the Funcub or is about the same except made by a different brand?

[@RedDevilSquadron]

If I were to give an honest answer, the Fun Cub is a much better flying airplane. The biggest reason is it is MUCH lighter for the same size airframe. While the Timber has a much better designed landing gear system, both mains and tailwheel, there are a lot of parts that also are a lot more brittle. If I were to buy one of the two based off of ease of assembly and design of certain systems, I'd get the Timber. If I wanted a plane with really great power to weight, all around better flight characteristics, and light(er) wing loading, I'd go with the Fun Cub.

[@FireyAfterburner]

Thanks for the great feedback. I'll have to keep this in mind when it comes time to get one of these, cause I'm broke for the time being lol. Fantastic flying as always..

[@stevesmith1856]

Are you using the BNF's Spektrum 636 AS3X Rx? Thanks!

[@RedDevilSquadron]

Nope, I took that out. It restricted control surface deflection quite a bit on ailerons especially. I'm using an AR610

[@stevesmith1856]

Thanks! I am planning to purchase one soon and was trying to decide between BNF & PNP. I will probably go with PNP as I want maximum STOL performance like you are achieving. Are you using a 2200 3S?

[@RedDevilSquadron]

Sweet! Check out the video description for full list of my set-up.

[@stevesmith1856]

Thanks.....3s 2200mah 50C battery sounds like a plan. And never any over amping issues with the stock esc and 12x6 prop?

[@RedDevilSquadron]

I still have yet to test the amp draw static with that prop. I haven't ever had any burned out motors or ESC's. :P The only downside as I noted in the description is the 5-6 min flight time.

[@drewpert1598]

I fly... I'm a good pilot. This guy though... Wow. Dialed man.

[@RedDevilSquadron]

Haha thanks!

[@MrDjh66]

Mine should be here tommorow

[@tylerbrunkhorst]

Do you fly full scale?

[@break3step807]

I love this video. I can always hear a beeping and a clicking of you radio transmitter... What's that?

[@RedDevilSquadron]

Thanks! The timer (on the throttle)

[@RedDevilSquadron]

Break 3Step I actually am able to hover it stock. It just doesn't pull out as well. The only change I made was making it a 12x6 prop rather than 12x4

[@bensonmilam6022]

What type of wheels ?

[@RedDevilSquadron]

The Avi Master Please reference the video description :-)

[@michaelcasella4774]

are you using recommended CG or did you move it around?

[@RedDevilSquadron]

Michael Casella Wherever the battery slides to within the confines of the hatch :-P These airplanes are designed with a loss of Velcro in flight in mind. The CG is super tolerant of those limits. I never Velcro or hard mount the battery in this plane or my Funcub.

[@broncobart4354]

Where did you set the CG?

[@RedDevilSquadron]

In all Timbers - they fly best simply ignoring the velcro straps and sliding the battery as far back as it will go. I've never had one slide forward as the thickness of the recommended batteries is sufficient enough for it to pressure fit in the rear of the battery compartment. Cheers

[@broncobart4354]

Got it. I’m running a heavier 3s 5000mah and did just that. It put the CG dead on for the book. Right at 57oz for the weight I’m going to swap ESC to the Turbo timer one and run 4S with an APC 3 blade. That should get the PTWR where I want it. I’m still running the AS3X receiver. Will take your advice and go with a basic 6channel as well. I’m not planning on ringing it out like you do, but it would be nice to have the unlimited vertical and longer flight time with the 4S setup.

[@blackbird4062]

Poor battery. Sweet skills!

[@AngryPepper1964]

Dude, that’s f#@$& AWESOME flying, I just bought the Turbo Timber as my first plane. If I could do 1/10 of you did I’d be happy as hell. One question, how long did it take for you to learn to hover like that? And how do I learn on my own to hover? (O.k. 2 questions). Thanks for that video, really great flying.

[@RedDevilSquadron]

Thanks much! Best advice I ever got (when gas was more prevalant): buy 50 gallons of gasoline and fly it till it's dry. Just repetition. Simulators are great too. Comes with time...I absolutely have my fair share of crashes from learning and continue to crash when I try new things too haha. Don't ever let anyone tell you they think they've learned it all. If you're not crashing, you aren't learning

[@wolfhors]

What type of battery you're using? 3S with how much mAh? And what flight times can be achieved? TNX, Wolfgang

[@RedDevilSquadron]

wolfhors Check out my video description for full details on the specs

[@wolfhors]

Sorry, forgot to open the whole page by clicking on "more". I have 2 XOAR 12x6 wooden props, those might be fine. Batteries are Hacker 3S 2400 mAh 30 C. Should work.My finger just clicked the order button :-)

[@Arun-db1oj]

good

[@bayardtaylor2990]

How do I. Install the prop. On turbo. In confused Thank you

[@YeetLord666]

You fly how I fly in the sim... I don't have the money to actually fly that way.

[@RedDevilSquadron]

Haha - not sure I understand...if you can fly that way in the sim, then you'd have no qualms with doing it in real life! :-) Try it out!

[@probosis214]

nice vid, would you suggest this plane for a beginner, i do fly helis, intermediate no 3d's though

[@RedDevilSquadron]

Thanks! This plane could work for a beginner, definitely.

[@luke_atthat]

Impressive!

[@kthompso43]

I'd guess that's not the stock motor.

[@RedDevilSquadron]

Ken Thompson Fully stock minus the prop. Read the video description for full details

[@shawnblock7335]

Do you think it is better, than the Tundra? Thankx

[@RedDevilSquadron]

I'll be honest unlike some I've seen online and say I've never flown the Tundra so I couldn't tell you. I still think the FunCub is the best in this class of R/C.

[@break3step807]

is hovering also possible with the default motor and Prop?!

[@RedDevilSquadron]

Break 3Step This is the default motor (see description for full details). Yes, I was able to hover it on the stock prop but it doesn't pull out very well.

[@break3step807]

RedDevilSquadron yeah thank you!!

[@ClaudaoTheBest]

wow! awesome!

[@matthewjames2649]

Nice . ...

[@matthewjames2649]

I stabth thy.. Ty4sharing..

[@CruxFab]

How did you disable the gyro?

[@RedDevilSquadron]

It'll Buff check out the video description for full details

[@kiheirc3195]

What fun