E36 8HP swap is now done!

[@makam2089]

It took me about 15 sec to realize that he speaks English in this video.

[@Δημητριοςκεχαγιας-ω8θ]

And it took us 1 second to understand that you are completely idiot

[@wtfronsson]

We call this accent rally english. Rally drivers made it heard all over the world about half a century ago. Pazi's is an immaculate example.

[@kasparsdakuls4305]

You can show us how you speak Finnish😅

[@makam2089]

@@kasparsdakuls4305 I can assure you, my perkele is C1 level xD

[@wilhelminmahtikanava]

Well he does it for us viewers and tries his best, so idk if thats something to laugh about really.

[@Theartofprogramming]

Finally someone that shows the wiring of this install! So many tutorials but everyone skips wiring. Will backup this video to my hard-drive :))

[@turbowankel1264]

Because the wiring comes with your choice of tcu and is individual to each application.

[@pazi88]

True. But still, I also find it annoying that almost all car building videos on youtube skip the wiring part almost totally.

[@turbowankel1264]

@@pazi88 yeah I get that, if you just want a reference of where to start it can help

[@MaDD3nHD]

This is awesome! I was amazed how quick it is on full throttle.

[@Skafiskafnjak51]

This is amazing, just flawless. First time seeing stuff like this :D

[@robertfontaine3650]

If you must turn a perfectly fine manual into an automatic then this is the way to do it.

[@Qban220]

That's a sick mod! This HP8 transmission fits like a glove to this e36.

[@pazi88]

I was bit surprized too how well it fits 😁

[@connoisseuroftigolbitts]

Bro did this work all by himself like it was piece of cake 😅

[@KurtAndresKA]

56 minutes and 46 seconds of pure gold, I love this build! 💪🏼

[@mostafaabubaker669]

I'm really glad to finally see this project come into fruition! Hopefully one day I'll be able to afford shoving an 8HP into my E34! Thanks a lot for the entertainment, Pazi!

[@Coyote27981]

my exact thought, my E34 525i would really appreciate this

[@andrewgarcia3136]

@@Coyote27981 mine as well haha

[@mampe8898]

Vittu nää oot seppä, ei voi muuta sanoa 👏👏👏👏👏

[@kaliikleja]

I dream stuff like this, he doing this type of thing in real life, very cool. This gearbox changes so quick and smooth in the video.

[@papapetad]

Nice thorough video with important complementary details on the swap. Congrats on getting it done and running and thank you for sharing 🙂

[@darek4488]

Finally a build that doesn't just skip the wiring part. Thank you.

[@oOTevtronOo]

Great video as always. I will do this in a few years when I can buy 8HP cheap from junkyard

[@pazi88]

Well these are already so cheap that I don't think these will get any cheaper 😅 The 8hp for my X5 was less than 300€

[@oOTevtronOo]

@@pazi88 Thanks for the info. I live in Spain and haven't found one here under 800€ yet. Where did you find it?

[@pazi88]

@@oOTevtronOo Check Ovoko/RRR. Not sure on which name it's at Spain.

[@kujtek]

54:09 lovely sound, people want more of it!!!!

[@stefangottsmann4510]

Great job, We will wait for the dyno results 👍

[@sdagoespro]

Self holding phase in MS42/43/45s is meant to give the ECU enough time to store adaptation values to the EEPROM when the engine is turned off. Note: Increasing the timer also means you have to wait longer when flashing the ECU since it will stay awake longer. Edit: BMW puts the transmission in between the shifter (which is terminated) and the rest of the PT CAN. Therefor the BMW original looms have two pairs of CAN high/low going to the transmission per CAN.

[@pazi88]

Thanks for the insights once again! Oh I didn't know that about the original wiring. I did it little bit differently so that the shifter has two pairs of the CAN wires and one of those goes to the trans and it's terminated there (now 😅),

[@adli66]

Amazing work Pazi! You should have made it to a 1hr 30mins video. We wouldn't mind😆🤙🏼

[@zuzweitzurzeit]

Perfekter Umbau,Respekt!👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@firsttodie7013]

OMG that engine is going insaaaane! :D crazy I also didnt expect that transmition to shift so quick. impresive.

[@sorekuk]

Thank you so much for this awesome Gauge.S 8HP CanTCU integration and testing. It looks really awesome in your car!

[@pazi88]

My pleasure. It's perfect display for this kind of thing.

[@Alpejohn]

The gear shifter looks really good!

[@MrHMS91]

Man, you're CRAZY but in the most right way of possible! Keep doing your stuff IT'S COOL AS FUCK!

[@shotty.]

this video is such a good catharsis for my endless 8hp swap dreams. Maybe into one of my own old beamers or an rx chassis eventually 👨🏽‍💻 thank you for this! fantastic stuff

[@WiimanX2]

This is absolutely amazing. Would be really interesting to see how this impacts economy over long distance and everyday use. Even with you an being modified

[@rcsterio]

CanTCU is awesome!!!

[@pazi88]

@@rcsterio Yes it is 😁

[@lucastunaioficial]

Parabéns pelo trabalho! Abraços do Brasil.

[@finlay230]

Absolutely love this build and the channel, great stuff 💪💪💪👍

[@JoeyBiden420]

Sick! Your accent is like honey for my ears. 😀😀

[@gizmo401]

pazi once again with some really cool shit. well done

[@oscararnesen699]

Super cool Pazi!!! - Mr. Arnesen

[@hachi_2ba]

Great content. You sound like the rally driver or co driver reading pace notes. I can understand clearly 😅

[@pazi88]

Thanks, and yeah that's what Finnish rally English is 😁

[@filipemarcon5191]

Great job, sport mode is really fast!

[@davo705]

Excellent stuff, So the e30 is next 👌

[@pazi88]

Not my E30 at least 😅 As awesome as this 8HP swap is, I don't think it will fit the feel of my E30. I really like it being the oldschool manual. Petri's E30 might get 8HP/DCT to make it faster on 1/4 mile. But no guarantee.

[@rmc5378]

I am hoping to be one of the first to stick an 8hp in an Escort Cosworth, also in Finland. Apart from getting the car up and running, I only need a transmission crossmember sorted out.

[@pazi88]

Sounds good!

[@jopoviz]

On se tekijämies! Ja paras vaihdelaatikko mitä ihmiskunta on keksinyt sitten Powergliden jälkeen 🤭

[@firstlast2857]

Nero, mikä nero! Bmw specialist👍Race gearbox program is perfekt.

[@ljfran2383]

I can't wait to copy this. Legend!

[@TerrasClip]

Very cool project, I love this

[@NyxNick]

As always thank you so much. The only videos that i never ffwd....

[@IordachioiuFlorinAlin]

Amazing work! I would also like to swap an 8hp45 on a stock m52b28 single vanos ms41.what type of converter do you think would be more suitable.diesel or gasoline?

[@e.3-0_m3]

Great work

[@TJS36]

Oh man, that’s cool!!

[@911marcus]

Wow, thats really Impressive

[@Gtbtdx]

Congratulations 👍👍

[@kauttophs]

Tässähän tulee jo kiire saada tuo autotalli valmiiks, ku pitäs saada omaakin projektia alle. Oli taas kerran kyllä vimosen päälle kontenttia!

[@jiivee94]

Onpa smootti huhhuh. Melko rivakasti kyllä vaihtaa, kova seppä !

[@Rajonas007]

Love your accent ❤

[@Tournevis-Torx]

Really cool, you make me want to do the same 👍👍

[@bregkobaa]

Great job

[@Andy242455]

cool

[@matrabyte]

this is how new m3 automatic should sound like

[@Robertofdf]

Incrível! Meus parabéns! 👏👏

[@joakimjansson5640]

Hyvä video!

[@M3rz3]

Tää on hieno swappi :)

[@mr.flatout8360]

Gracias amigo

[@williamskagen9901]

This is so cool

[@schajanakikat-year1032]

Great Video and very good content, I'm really surprised by the results. How much fuel does it use with the 8HP?

[@pazi88]

Thanks! I was bit surprised too, how well this turned out 😃 I don't have any good results of the fuel consumption. It seems to consume roughly 12.5 liters of E85 per 100km. But that includes lot of tuning and pulls, so it's not very comparable result.

[@maraViik]

Very nice 🔥👌🏼

[@maxbiturbo3553]

Great job man 🎉🎉🎉 Congratulations from France i subscribe 👌🏻🤝🏻

[@examen1996]

So, what would be a grand estimate of this, and after fitting all the parts and tunning it to your liking? And did this match your expectations ? Great video

[@MaiklovProdct]

Amazing man!!Amaizing job! My deep respect to you I going installing 8Hp to my e34 540i let’s do this! The first step is the most difficult😁 One question. I can’t find electric circuits like on your table? Where I can download them??

[@pazi88]

The wiring diagrams are on canformance wiki. On the installation section. Like the one for the 1st gen 8hp that I used: wiki.canformance.net/lib/exe/fetch.php?media=cantcu:cantcu_8hp_wiring_v15.pdf

[@spaghettilocomotive]

Very nice

[@mplewp]

Plan on replacing my 6 speed auto with the glorious 8 speed in my e65 :P but it aint to eash to work around the electronics

[@pazi88]

@@mplewp Well actually it's easy. Just use cantcu and get the plug and play harness for e6x

[@alexr9341]

Привет, Суоми!

[@pazi88]

Hello!

[@qers]

I'm looking to unload my E34 and Chevy Suburban soon and I think the money might go towards an 8HP45 and M54 conversion for my E36.

[@pazi88]

Sounds good 😄

[@qers]

​@@pazi88 I've now made it to the end of the video, where I can see actual driving, and I'm sold. I'm going parts hunting because it's just behaving perfectly.

[@joku8900]

Perkeleen komeesti loota pelittää. On kyllä kova modaus vanhaan e36seen. Tommosen automaatin hyväksyisin omaankin autoon vaikka manuaalimies onkin henkeen ja vereen

[@pazi88]

Joo manuaali mies itekki oon henkeen ja vereen. Mutta toimii tämä niin hienosti, että ei voi olla kuin tyytyväinen.

[@LoneThreeSix]

dragy times would be cool tho

[@pazi88]

I'll try to get those to the next video about the engine itself.

[@JustVideoFiles]

Great swap. Can't wait to do the same as well. I gave a question: 8hp45 from diesel will suit M50 as well? ( I understand that may be the "shorter" rear diff will be needed for example 3.46 instead of 3.15.)

[@pazi88]

@@JustVideoFiles 8hp45 from diesel is same as gasoline 8hp45. The converter just has ~1000rpm lower stall speed. But the bellhousing wont fit m5x, so it needs adapter. And then prolly custom flexplate too.

[@tiitsaul9036]

Wow. You have a lot of patience. Very nice setup. How is the engine doing? Have you made a new exhaust?

[@pazi88]

Thanks! Engine seems to be working really well. Just few small issues to be worked out. Yes it has new 3" cat-less exhaust currently. You can hear it in the highway clips at the end. But naturally it doesn't sound like much from the video 😅 It almost like S54 screaming now with that.

[@mailman1980]

Hienoa värkkäämistä :thumbsup Tutun näkönen X201 näyttää soivan vielä ;)

[@pazi88]

Kiitos! Joo se on ollu mun luottopeli. Just uuden tehoakunkin sain aikaseksi ostaa siihen, niin riittää virtaa vaikka koko päiväksi 😁

[@ZeroGravityShisha]

Hello Pazi, why not use the Intercooler from E36 with automatic trans? they have oil coiler build in.

[@pazi88]

I was checking that, but the problem first of all is that the fittings/lines don't work with any of the 8hp stuff. Which might be something that can be worked out. But I also couldn't find good used parts and new ones were rather expensive.

[@_coffeeandcigars]

not my personal choice 😁going auto in the e36 but really well done! When can we hear more about how the engine is doing? Are you going to a dyno when the real exhaust is done? I am guessing theres a bunch of power to be had on your setup going from the b20/b25 exhaust to a b28 or m3 size...

[@pazi88]

Well yeah, I wanted to do something different and I'm not regretting it. Quite opposite. This is now so much nicer to drive than my e30 😅 The 1st revision of the exhaust is now done, and it's just straight 3" cat-less exhaust with tiny resonator modified rear muffler. It's twice the the size as the old, but I don't really see the effect on the logs, so it's not much that it actually affects. Mostly it's the sound and I'm loving it now. You can actually hear that in the highway pulls, but it doesn't sound much on the video. In reality it's like really like S54 screaming.

[@_coffeeandcigars]

@@pazi88 seems strange that the small exhaust wasnt restricting a lot (does it have the small cone in the little resonator still?)...looking gorward to the engine/tuning video!

[@TheATiPL]

very good film, a lot of information included. I installed DCT in my e36, unfortunately with MS43 in automatic transmission mode I lack the ability to turn on launch control control by giving a signal to the clutch sensor pinout. Do you know if it would be possible to enable LC in MS43?

[@pazi88]

I think you asked this at ms4x-net discord already? Unfortunately I don't have solution for that.

[@TheATiPL]

@@pazi88 I have already asked and unfortunately I did not receive a clear answer.

[@1aamu]

buddy speaks so fast it's nearly impossible to undesrand what he's saying

[@allmech_BMW_fault_finding]

Tule Schmiedmanille! I want to see this

[@pazi88]

On vähän kaukana 😅

[@johanpersson7169]

Hey great content very in dept. good work. I have a question. is it possible to use CANTCU with a 8HP to a older car that dosent run CAN bus?

[@pazi88]

@@johanpersson7169 Only if you have supported ecu with can bus installed in the car. Like I have done in this case. Biggest thing what makes 8hp work as well as it works is that it has control to the engine/ecu to make the shifts happen fast amd fluently.

[@johanpersson7169]

@@pazi88 The reason i´m asking is i´m looking for a alternetive transmission to my E31 850i. So it basicaly meens i need to get like a after market ECU for the engien if i whant to run a 8HP?

[@MaiklovProdct]

⁠​⁠@@johanpersson7169if I correctly understand, 34,36,31 on stock ECU have can line H/L look at your pins at testing socket. But if not yet. I just beginning swap to m62 with can bus from e39,38.

[@robinschaefer6983]

I love finnish people

[@Jas_jt]

Looks and sounds good. What are engine specs and power?

[@pazi88]

@@Jas_jt I have full build series about the engine. But it's m52b28tu stroked to 3 liters. Forged internals with custom 14:1 CR pistons, ported head, 272/260 cams etc.

[@Maakko]

How much did this 8hp project cost overall?

[@shotty.]

i’m also very curious

[@Liljot01]

Really nice! Planing to do the 8hp swap on my w202. Where did you buy the black shiftercovers??

[@pazi88]

@@Liljot01Sounds good! I did put links to video description.

[@vapen_hem]

At first i thought he was speaking straight Finish, but he just have a really heavy accent.

[@sidahmedouabel7417]

The car os for sale.. I found it in BMW e36 group o' Facebook.

[@pazi88]

It's not for sale 😁

[@PhantomMark]

This is awesome, i'd love the 8HP on my E46 M3 ??? how much will this likely cost me to do ?

[@pazi88]

Well this isn't like super cheap thing to do 😅 It will cost somewhere around 2500-3500€ depending on how you manage to do it. I haven't yet listed how much mine did cost, but here's one E46 swap: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1b8DF0boMOsDQuz_l1GyDdwpICNOXxGrKTvIpv4rRdhE/

[@agafonovas]

Niiiice

[@user-wt6wv7xd2t]

5hp18 vaihdelaatikko mulla ylimääräisenä. saat vaikka 50 eurolla vara-osiksi kun mulla vaan tiellä manuaali-swapin jäljiltä.

[@pazi88]

Kiitos, vaan ei kiitos 😅Muutama 5hp raato meiltäkin löytyy, vaan eipä ne oo kuin haitolla.

[@satsumagt5284]

It must have felt like day and night compared to the 5HP

[@pazi88]

Well, if you watched the previous part, this was actually manual car originally 😅 But yeah, I have driven many e36's with 5hp and the difference huge.

[@Stratos1988]

Not sure how good or bad it is fir transmission to slip into gear but it sure looks like engine can take a good "breath" when pulling WOT. Probably something that was leftover for big turbo engine.

[@pazi88]

@@Stratos1988 I don't really understand what you mean 🤔

[@Stratos1988]

@@pazi88 53:28

[@NoImpres.]

so awesome!! its an m52? feels like it has turbo when you floor it

[@pazi88]

@@NoImpres. It has fully built m52tu 😁

[@NoImpres.]

@@pazi88 nice!! I subscribed, will be looking forward to this e36 😎

[@WotMinecraftMaster]

Where I can find this amber display for cluster? I am looking for something similar to my renault project

[@pazi88]

It's Gauge.S: shop.sorek.uk/collections/gauge-s With code PAZIOFF20, you get 20% off from the price.

[@e34boat88]

moro pasi! osaaks neuvoo miten nyt kylmillä ilmoilla helpottuis kylmäkäynnistys viinan kanssa? täl hetkel cranking ennakko 5 astet ja cranking pulssi noin 400% ja ei oikeen tykkää lähtee millään käymää..

[@pazi88]

Yleensä auttaa kun vaan laittaa priming pulssin tarpeeksi isoksi. Nollakelit vaatii jo suuttimesta riippuen kymmenia millisekunteja.

[@firedustman]

it's cool but does it driftable ?

[@pazi88]

Actually seems to do rather good skids. I just need to replace the open diff with LSD one.

[@HiTz_Zeptex]

Just a quick question. All the info in the speedo, what unit is that?

[@pazi88]

It's Gauge.S. I have few videos about it on my channel.

[@HiTz_Zeptex]

@@pazi88 thanks 😁

[@deez023]

I am no mechanic or engineer, but doesn't it keep RPM to low? There is a crankshaft bearing problem with the newer BMWs (like f10 n57), and I believe transmission always keeping engine in higher gear results in lower rpm, low oil pressure and high stress on components (if you accelerate from low rpm)

[@pazi88]

@@deez023 Well that fully depends what kind of mapping (and drive mode) is used in the transmission. But the problems in those n-series engines are in many cases caused by the too long oil change periods that BMW uses

[@deez023]

@@pazi88 sure, mapping really makes a different, I am just saying that it's shouldn't be mapped like BMW does it (I believe it always keeps the engine in 1200-1400 range). Regarding the bearings, yes it's a complex problems, drain intervals, smaller tolerances, higher power output, lower rpm, low viscosity oils, block rigidity etc.

[@TechTokOffical]

I'll do this when it becomes as "plug and play" as possible. Till then ill be content with the manual swap I did before this was cool. Also am I did I hear somewhere that with this swap u had the option to keep the clutch so u could do clutch things with an auto?

[@pazi88]

Well, only not plug and play is really the transbrace and driveshaft. Otherwise it's quite plug and play, at least in my opinion. You can get clutch pedal with Turbolamik, but I don't get why would you swap in automatic transmission in first place if you need clutch pedal 😁

[@TechTokOffical]

Because a good ol fashioned clutch dump never gets old lol. For real tho in a drift application, I'd imagine having the ability to clutch kick to get sideways while still having the fast shifting

[@wakiestknave59]

What diff did you use and what diff would fit my 2004 525i because I plan on making my car a track/ street car.

[@pazi88]

This has the stock e36 328i diff currently. With 2.93 ratio. It's actually pretty good ratio for just streer car with 8hp. But I will change it to 3.73 LSD, when I have time to make that. To make the ratios work better at track.

[@wakiestknave59]

⁠@@pazi88 so what 2.93 gear ratio diff would fit a 525i e60

[@AJVAN_]

Why swap manual?

[@TomoReso]

Well done man, awesome stuff! How much did it cost you to make this conversion to 8HP? Also, I am mad we are not given hp gains for this engine yet 😂

[@pazi88]

Thanks! This isn't cheap swap by any means. The 8HP transmissions itself can be get quite cheap sometimes. But if you count in everything you need, it's roughly 2500-3000€ for the swap. It's surprisingly big amount of money that goes to the smaller stuff. I might do cost breakdown video of the swap if there is interest for that. And video about the engine comes later 😉

[@JukeMaza]

Onko viivettä vaihdossa jos hämmentää ite pykäliä?

[@pazi88]

Eipä oikeestaan. Ainakaan nyt kun on tuo uus softa sisässä ja laatikko on kunnolla adaptoitunut. Eihän näissä sähköisesti ohjatuissa ikinää se vaihto ole 100% viiveetön kun vaihdon komentaa. Mut aika lailla samalla lailla pelaa nyt kuin vaikka tuo mainitsemani F80 M3 DCT:llä.

[@niko-wq6bg]

laitoikkos sitä maxspeedingrods alustasarjaa e39:n kiinni? ois tarkotus ostaa jonki sortin halppis alustasarja ja tarttis vähän neuvoa minkä sitä ostais.

[@pazi88]

En oo pistäny paikalleen. E12:een se on menossa. Eihän ne maxpp:t vissiin oikeen kummosia oo 😅

[@niko-wq6bg]

@@pazi88 eli ei jatkoon😅. tässä kahen vaiheilla joko ta:n sarja tai sitte madallusjouset. tai talven säästäis ja kesäksi bc.

[@pazi88]

@@niko-wq6bg TA on oman kokemuksen mukaan ihan ok. Toki ei sitä BC:hen voi verrata, mut kyllä sillä ajelee.

[@FochJoker]

Rally english my favorite