@@savagekingdom6556i don't get why people still say this, first of all, i've always been a pes fan myself but sadly not following them since their "efootball" bullshit, i mean they have only 5 teams as a partner and they are the only ones we get to play in offline mode in efootball 2024 whereas in pes 2013, 2016, 2018, 2019 (the ones i enjoyed the most) we've had BUNCH of clubs and national teams to play with and they never felt like a demo or beta version like the newest one does :(