EA Secretly Changed Recruiting Again in College Football 25 Dynasty

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[@silksmith3887]

Yo so does the Hard Sell works better than Send the house during the new update or you should just keep sending the house over Hard sell

[@JohnThree-f8e]

Bro can you talk about formation subs for once that's really a staple of NCAA. Man this game is so repetitive to be on next Gen I feel like it was more Easter eggs on Xbox 360 NCAA 😂

[@TheRCBuildersPost]

Imagine complaining about realism by only getting five 5*. Then getting fifteen 5* and being like, "yeah, that's more like it" 😂

[@PoodleGaming]

lol

[@robfletcher1235]

Realism would be top recruits waiting longer to commit. The higher the star rating the more recruiting "hours" it should take to get them to commit

[@PoodleGaming]

I agree with this as well, I do think a bit more variation would be good for next year within the process.

[@reliablethreat23]

That wouldn't be realistic either. There are 5 star guys who know where they wanna play right away. It should vary from recruit to recruit.

[@steveatwater4364]

Realism would be recruiting kids when they are Sophomore and Juniors in Highschool. Also, ability to flip verbal commitments

[@markjohnson9437]

I think they adjusted some of the recruits stats too. I just started recruiting a 5star hb that has 99 speed, which I've never seen before

[@swolebodygaming5225]

That’s crazy! I’m noticing there are some generational talents as well. I just recruited a 5star mlb with 96 speed.

[@chris8215]

I recruited a 99 elite cb 5star and a 92 speed olb 5star with elite develop traits

[@KALICOE]

They there they just hard to get they score on one play especially if they got a line

[@RichyScott]

I recruited a 99 speed 6’4 elite dev WR yesterday, I’m now obligated to play out that Dynasty until he goes to the NFL

[@PoodleGaming]

They def did, a lot of players are being generated into the recruit system differently now stat wise.

[@Darius_Forreal]

I believe the impact of visits should be based on what the recruits' interests are. Like a loss during a visit when you're selling your team on Proximity to home shouldn't hurt as much as if you're selling as a championship contender

[@fredokeys3405]

right

[@KALICOE]

The impact of wins and losses they tell you on a recruit visits day especially them up to 3 red/green arrows

[@jimbarnes4124]

Just think about the energy on campus though after a win vs a loss. The recruit is going to have a much better experience after a win regardless

[@PoodleGaming]

I 100% agree with this and hole they implement this next year. If there motivation is pro potential, than you should have an elite roster/ put up a lot of stats. If it’s playing style, then you need to hit certain goals like throw for 400 with a WR in the house.

[@mannieyoung5477]

I think they really need to consider increasing the level of your coach to 100 with how many options there are for coach development. By the time you get to program builder or CEO you are likely spent in points. I would like to see an increase in coach leveling so you can be more rounded and diverse in talent

[@PoodleGaming]

I do agree with this, but perhaps make it a league setting. Like level cap or none, in case people want it tougher to build them.

[@jolteon345]

Your point with competitive online leagues is what happens with almost anything when you're playing at a higher level. People move faster because they are attempting to outpace everyone else and recruit at the highest level. If they're going to make recruiting longer, it needs to be done in a way that doesn't punish people that don't run recruiter. It would suck if non-recruiter builds get merced just to make the recruiting trail longer because they can't effectively recruit.

[@PoodleGaming]

Yeah I agree with your point, I just wished they could make it so recruiter builds had more time to strategize. Right now it comes down to key moments and you can’t really do much after that. Such as the person going against you having a week 3 home game, or getting unlucky with unlocking motivations.

[@ericlacy315]

Yes I was done by week 4. Just scouting for fun with all these points now

[@PoodleGaming]

After week 3 advance, I basically just scout lol

[@travisalderman4714]

I wish they would allow you to recruit someone who has verbally committed to another program, but with less hours or something to make it difficult to do, but still give you the opportunity. There are lots of examples currently of recruits that flip after verbally committing and I think it would be cool to see in the game.

[@brett4ve]

I agree. I'm definitely running into this right now. My schedule had me with home games week 3, 4, and 5, so I thought I'd lock up 10 or so recruits early based on previous seasons. Interest progressed slower than usual, so only got to schedule guys weeks 4 and 5, and even though they were big games, I did not lock down a single one of the 8 I got scheduled the week of the visit. I'm still going to get most of them but did lose out on 2 guys that would have been locks in the past. Definitely prefer more challenge and randomness, though, as the previous way had gotten too easy. Related to this, has anyone seen tweaks in the development distribution of non-gem players? I've been seeing a lot more Elite and Star non-gem 5* and 4* than past seasons in my sim dynasties, but I wasn't sure if I was just getting lucky or what.

[@PoodleGaming]

Yes 100%, even red gem players don’t appear to be normal busts anymore. Been getting solid red gem players.

[@jamesr9227]

The one issue with making recruiting longer… the later weeks are for teams that lost out on top recruits. It’s a bit realistic that certain players would wait to see the landscape before committing, but to have that you need players to commit somewhat early

[@PoodleGaming]

Maybe for higher tier stars then. Maybe 5 stars take longer. I’m not sure of a solution, but it does seem a tad fast.

[@jamesr9227]

@ I think making the recruits “smarter” and more diversified would be great. Right now recruits are too predictable

[@liftedent9481]

It’ll be a few 4 stars and maybe 1 5 if you’re lucky but after all the 5 and 4s commit all the 3 star gems are in danger

[@HP-hh8dk]

Maybe I'm imagining things but I swear you had more recruiting hours (as a 4.5/5 star program) before all of the patches. My old ND program would have over 1000 hrs. My current Michigan of the same rank has only 900.

[@PoodleGaming]

I think maybe you are confusing it with pre season?

[@Key2success1100]

@@PoodleGamingno he’s right I’ve had Notre dame and Alabama both had 1000 hours in season those were the only times I’ve seen it , but I know you can build the hours through winning over the years

[@HP-hh8dk]

@@PoodleGaming I might be. I know you get around 1200-ish points for scouting week and putting your board together but I swore you got around a grand during the season. No way to verify that unless you play an unpatched version.

[@brett4ve]

In my experience, pre season 5 stars get 1250, in season 1000. 4.5 stars get 900 in season.

[@jsmoove88]

@@brett4vethis is the way it’s been all year

[@biggross75]

The green ticks aren’t a make a break thing on recruiting. Still depends on their interest more than anything regardless of the school you have especially when you’re competing against Alabama Georgia and Oregon out there

[@NCKLM]

I still can't figure out why CEO-Dream School no longer works. I haven't had a recruit insta-commit in over 4 seasons

[@tyler6god]

EA Developers who have been reading Reddit comments since the game dropped watching this video like: 🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹

[@PoodleGaming]

lol they gotta be, they make incremental changes here and there secretly.

[@tyler6god]

@PoodleGaming You know the criticism is insane when you can start looking at EA like an underdog in the playoffs... can't help but root for em at times 😪🤣

[@PoodleGaming]

Lmao

[@Factor718]

A few minutes into the video, but I also had a situation where I was barely behind on a 5 star going into the week he would commit, I beat Alabama when Bama had him on a visit and he still chose them

[@PoodleGaming]

Yup, whoever has that lead right before commit typically wins, unless the person removes their hardsell/ hours. Yeah beating them just means they will get the slightest bonus + still their usual hardsell hours, so if they are leading they will still win.

[@kendalltaylor5266]

I never seen why a loss hurts in online play, Im bringing a recruit in to show you that i need you for that certain position

[@PoodleGaming]

lol this is a valid point.

[@PoolPartyPapi]

@PoodleGaming have you noticed the coach ability road warriors thats in the program builder coaching tree doesnt work? Every road game my guys all have the cold emblem underneath them and I'm unable to audible. Trying to spread awareness of this ability not working hoping they fix it

[@PoodleGaming]

I don’t mess with these abilities because I never trusted them to properly work lol.

[@isurvivedplanb]

I just 13 5stars and it’s just week 6. Majority of this is facts

[@enoshn2]

Yea in my online league it take about till week 6 or so and that’s with about 27-30 users but offline can lock up by 3 or 4 for 75% of my board. Could define make it longer or more challenging somehow

[@HuskerHead812]

Would be awesome to see some examples from some of the leagues on the impact. Hearing what you are saying just not sure about the actual impact

[@PoodleGaming]

I usually use my online league as reference, I think I explained a story or 2 from league in this video as well.

[@sicivicsmitty5219]

Yea visits haven’t been buffed up. Me & my friend scheduled for the same player. His was week 6, mine was 7. He got the player week nine. Didn’t matter that my visit was last. He maxed out 60-80 points and I didn’t. Don’t expect to win a recruiting battle with ONLY a visit thinking visits are OP

[@PoodleGaming]

They were a month ago, but only for like 1-3 weeks. Then they nerfed back down. Visits won’t single handedly win players anymore, it’s good for breaking tie breakers, or catapulting you ahead when you are already catching up. Also great to lock others out, when they are catching up.

[@greglees5436]

Thanks for the info! Trying to build up the UC Bearcats in a league with friends while they're all in powerhouses.

[@PoodleGaming]

Glad I could help, let me know how your build turns out.

[@creamabdul-jabbar6722]

Now with this one I did lose 2 Dt that I was almost full bar on. And hitting hard sells. Lost the 5 star to Ohio State the 4 star to Nebraska out of nowhere. So I'm kind of digging this one

[@creamabdul-jabbar6722]

I was baffled but I was like thank God maybe they finally made it a little difficult

[@creamabdul-jabbar6722]

Neither one was yet to be on visit, they where scheduled and neither one visited the other school

[@PoodleGaming]

Elite recruiter packages are the hidden gem, they give extra bonuses for the regular actions.

[@gg16of]

If I have a visit and I lose to a team that will give me 3 red marks how much of a negative impact will that have?

[@PoodleGaming]

It just means the visit basically won’t give you any boosts. You will still get your usual influence though.

[@southside06]

Could you figure out how the team overall ratings are calculated for teams in dynasty mode? They make no sense.

[@PoodleGaming]

They make 0 sense…. I think they heavily weigh depth/ the under classmen ratings. My rating sky rocketed bringing in a bunch of 76-80 overall five stars but my upper tier players were only 87 still.

[@ChrisPBacon-zo9cm]

Would be cool if they added a slider for the length of the recruiting process. I feel like even as late as the offseason for some since all my offseason scouting/recruiting is useless because so much is done well before then.

[@PoodleGaming]

I also agree with this, but it’s only year 1. I think they did a great job for just year 1, I expect a lot more things will be introduced next year.

[@connorralston217]

Bruh I just got around to focusing on visits as priority whaaaaa😭

[@ajdance8677]

Week 3/4 commits have been common in my latest seasons. Some even without visits. The cpu is cheating like hell.

[@PoodleGaming]

Yeah, most recruits commit by week 4

[@GUknights75]

What happens to the players that you cut for your 85? There is no Transfer Portal after cutting, so do they just delete them out of the game, or are they randomly assigned to teams who didn't hit their 85?

[@camminor8523]

Players that I have cut usually ended up on other teams

[@brett4ve]

I almost always see my guys pop up on other teams... and then they try to transfer back to my team the next year lol

[@GatorJ88]

I see most of those guys go to the military schools in my dynasties. 3 went to army one year 2 to air force and 1 to navy. But that's just my experience I've done probably 30-40 different dynasties

[@liftedent9481]

@@brett4ve how

[@liftedent9481]

My cut players just disappear wtf 😂

[@grunda7619]

In the conyext of online leagues.....the coach tree needs to be completely rethought. If im a couple years in and just havent made two top 5 classes but anoth guy has....thats not really a fair way to then boost his recruiting ability over everyone else.

[@nogocheese1549]

I think it’s good you wasn’t able to get 14 5 stars make it more realistic. This isn’t the early 2010s where Schools like Alabama or Clemson was getting all the 5 stars it’s more diverse now which i like in the long term

[@PoodleGaming]

But it’s also more consistent, if you know what you are doing. Sometimes when I say realism, I really just mean the skill gap. If I’m a far better recruiter, someone shouldn’t be able to steal players with a visit against the FCS pandas.

[@nogocheese1549]

@ i mean skill gap shouldn’t matter off recruiting cause it’s a video game. I like the recruiting is random because with NIL there is more diversity and parity in college. I seen videos where users are getting 20-25 5 stars a class that’s abusing the game at that point.

[@PoodleGaming]

@ while this is true, when playing in super competitive online leagues many people don’t wish to deal with the randomness. It’s similar to why pro players in tournaments play on “competitive” sliders, which reduces randomness and the impacts of player ratings, less penalties. So it really comes down to what league you are trying to be apart of. I think sliders to adjust the recruiting process would be fun.

[@nogocheese1549]

@ i saw that because I’m grinding a small school in online league right now. I’m UCF and i just got my 1st 5 star in season 5 but I’m consistently able to get 4 stars and that’s only to the parity. It’s so hard to recruit in the southern region with all the big schools.

[@Blkkennedy]

Is anyone having the dysnc problem in online dynasty league? I can’t find any information on this

[@daviddolan1322]

Did they update the hard sell effects like lets say i figure out the 3 interests but only have 2 of them green checked. Figured out 3rd by process elimination. Ill only get 4 ticks for a hard sell if i dont have them all green checked. Idk whats going on now. Its like even if you use process elmination to figure out that 3rd interest you dont get influence for it

[@PoodleGaming]

I think that’s just a visual error, early hard selling for me gives me huge bonuses.

[@armanirza]

Man I used to not lose. Now every game is close wtf

[@PoodleGaming]

Game is always changing

[@MPKtheCPA]

Are 1 Star and 2 Star programs able to land 5 and 4 star recruits? That seems unrealistic in real life but keep hearing that folks are able to land top classes with low prestige programs. Do you think EA will re-tune this maybe placing a higher priority on Team Prestige for top recruits?

[@jolteon345]

Those people intentionally recruit in a manner that cheeses the system. Landing 1-3 4-star recruits that you work hard for isn't out of the question, the problem is that those people will go hard for all 4-5 star recruits and keep cycling them out if they know they don't stand a chance. This is combined with running the recruiter tree to go crazy with hours available. Pretty much it's all about your own personal integrity. Either you can work in a fairly realistic manner or you can try to do whatever you want to cheese the system. If others cheese the system and you don't want to, just don't use the "best recruiting tactics" that they'll talk about until you have built your program.

[@jefflafferty5357]

@@jolteon345 i don't think this is always the case. I'm in some online dynasties and in our 2 star league I'm Fresno State and just brought in three 5 stars in year 1.....and guess what i did that was so ground breaking? I actually recruited them. Nobody else in my league did. And yes all 3 were California kids where I have a strong pipeline which helps a ton, but so many times people just aren't going after the higher ranked recruits

[@jefflafferty5357]

also i don't think going after 8-10 guys really hard is cheezy. I'd rather do that than go after 20 three stars. You can get 3 stars any time, even in the transfer portal season

[@jolteon345]

@@jefflafferty5357 Unless the CPU teams just don't recruit in multi-user dynasties, I find it very hard to believe that you had pretty much no competition. I haven't played in a multiplayer ones, but my comment was directed at how people brag about getting top classes and pulling in things like 4 5-stars and 10 4-stars. It was referencing the videos that say the "best way to recruit" is to only go after 4-5 star players even against the CPU. Of course recruiting will be different in a competitive league. People will be looking to break the game in some way, so if you don't you're at a disadvantage. But those league usually don't contain the people bragging about how good their recruiting classes are, it's usually the people who do it against the CPU and actively cheese it. Cheese is cheese, the difference is that everyone agreeing to do it evens the playing field.

[@jefflafferty5357]

@@jolteon345 computer was definitely going after them, just not many of the users. Recruiting online against other humans is 100x harder than recruiting in offline dynasties

[@clisle52]

Does this hidden visit nerf effect current leagues or Just new ones

[@PoodleGaming]

Definitely online. I’d assume offline/cloud though as well.

[@clisle52]

Thank you brotha

[@JBWV]

They need to fix sway

[@251hitman2]

Recruiting should last until rivalry week

[@PoodleGaming]

I would like the process to be a bit longer as well.

[@chrisw8201]

How do you get 80 hours recruiting?

[@jerelmoye76]

Your coordinators gotta have recruiting packages as well

[@chrisw8201]

@ oh that makes sense, preciate it

[@PoodleGaming]

Yeah, what the guy above said

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[@coltonlombardo4673]

I thought I noticed a difference

[@PoodleGaming]

Yeah, for sure. This one was noticeable

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[@savga912kid]

What's op?

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“Overpowered”

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