Eachine E180 Vs OMP M2 Direct Drive 3D RC Helicopter

[@boeing747400ifly]

Great video but I myself prefer the "older" non-DFC design. Those extra parts in the rotor head assembly reduce the workload on the servos and also reduce the likelihood of a servo gear stripping in a crash. Just wanted to point that out for those who may be new to helis.

[@alishanmao]

it is matter of opinion and choice buddy. In OMP M2, servos are designed to take that work load, and servo horns are designed in a way that upon a crash, they are the first thing to break and save the servo gears. anyway those are metal gear servos :)

[@tbonesixtynine]

I dont really miss the flybars one bit :)

[@zmanphx]

The non DFC design is easier on servos for crashes because the linkage is not rigid to maintain swash phasing. More likely to bend or break a linkage than strip servo gears. Normal flight the servo load is the same as DFC.

[@MarcosOliveira-tt9oo]

@@alishanmao m2 canopy fits eachine?

[@alishanmao]

i am not sure buddy@@MarcosOliveira-tt9oo

[@emilioubertini9628]

Hi, just an advice please: for a beginner which help do you suggest? Omp M1 or M2. I’ve just bought the T6 transmitter and a simulator for training before flight. Thank you so much and excuse me if it is a question just made before...🙏

[@alishanmao]

what you can afford and which one has available parts. both are amazing helis

[@robindavies7144]

Hi, at 8:29 on the video you refer to the DSMX connection on the E180. Would it be possible to bind this heli to a Spektrum DX6e radio? IF yes, how?

[@alishanmao]

DSMX Connection means it supports the Spektrum radios receivers. you will have to add a receiver and then you can use your DX6e

[@robindavies7144]

@@alishanmao Thank you for your response. I have a Spektrum SPM9645 remote receiver. Would that be ok to use?

[@ivang3490]

Muy buen video, la verdad es que aunque no soy mucho de comentar, no he podido reprimirme con este video. Te llevo viendo desde hace años y eres un autentico crack en los reportajes. No solo muestras cosas que vienen bien saber al resto de la comunidad, si no, que además me río con tus comentarios.

[@alishanmao]

Big thanks for your kind comment and continued support my friend.

[@bobwatson6558]

Ali do you think parts are going to be strong at Banggood. After flying both how does the 180 eachine stand up. That's the key having parts. I'm hoping they will listen about the differences about the head. What do you think long time listener keep it coming.

[@alishanmao]

I am hoping eachine will keep it up with parts supply. because helis crash too often LOL. its in mass production and should be available next month

[@chrisbee5481]

@@alishanmao great Info man! February is around the corner. How much is the Flying weight of the E180? Excited to see the price too 😄 want an upgrade from the XK K110 Keep it up 👍

[@alishanmao]

@@chrisbee5481 almost 300g or more if battery is heavier.

[@riccardofreda612]

Hi alish thanks for this video, i would like to ask you a suggestion. I have a lot of experience in 4ch helicopters, but now i would improve my skills in helicopters and learn 3d. Between eachine e160/180, OMP M1/M2 among these helicopters which one do you suggest me? All the helicopters (execpt e160) has the simlar price and the choice is very difficult. Thanks

[@alishanmao]

Go for those have parts easily available and you can get parts easily. :) because for sure you will need parts and repairs :)

[@riccardofreda612]

Tanks for the answer, i think i'll take the e160 or e180, because the omp parts are expensive.

[@ionescuion3251]

hey Ali, what should I choose between eachine e180 and Omphobby, which of them has six axis gyro?I am beginner.

[@alishanmao]

Both are pretty stable for beginners. choose the one that has parts available easily

[@bobwatson6558]

Ali do you think they will make some changes to the head of the eachine. How do you program the dsmx in the eachine.

[@alishanmao]

I do not think so. its already chunky and strong. improved in fact. just older design. not a DFC head. just program for 1 servo swash, and add pitch and throttle curves. set gyro values. and you are ok

[@mitcrepe]

What receiver are you using on M2? I also have RadioMaster TX16S and don't know what receiver to get.

[@alishanmao]

you can download an updated to Radiomaster TX16S that adds OMP Protocol to multi protocol module after which you won't need any receiver.

[@garyyoung7187]

Ali please can you answer this question please these 2 heli.can any of them be used with the futaba xk110.transmitter tia

[@alishanmao]

E180 is using SFHSS system so probably you can use that one. do your research properly again because i would normally not use XK K110 radio for any other helis. its not a precision radio

[@garyyoung7187]

thanks Ali

[@BigAlFPV17]

Excellent comparison Ali !! Thank you for making this video 😊

[@alishanmao]

My pleasure 😊

[@zmanphx]

Compare weight , battery and cost between the two . Also availability of parts.

[@Horsesupreme1]

Hello AliShanmao, I, am looking for a tx16s. But there are different (all look a like😋)types of radio's. Which one I should buy?

[@alishanmao]

well yes they all look same and its difficult for first time buyer to decide., let me make it easy for you. if you want to fly long range quads and planes, go with TBS Crossfire bundle together with TX16S tiny.cc/94k6tz if you just want to fly various RC Aircraft go with this as this will save you costs. I have this same one and I bought TBS Crossfire later when i needed it. tiny.cc/vqsbsz and if you want to show off, and get something with metal parts. go with max edition tiny.cc/74k6tz

[@Horsesupreme1]

@@alishanmao Thank you for your comment. And with your nice/good video's I know now which radio I should buy. Now I have the eachine160, but with the upcoming 180, I want a stable and reliable radio. I can't wait to see more of your educational video's! With kind regards.

[@alishanmao]

always welcome buddy. happy to help always

[@shorts-ve7sn]

Buen video amigo , una pregunta cuánto pesa el eachine e 180 con la batería ? - de 250g o más ? Gracias

[@alishanmao]

298g with battery

[@christopherwoodle5962]

Excellent video.... Very detailed... Lots of information here... Thank you

[@alishanmao]

Glad it was helpful!

[@abates3747]

good job and good flying!

[@howintesting940]

Fantastic video !! Interested to know: traditional helis always strip main gear, bend shafts when crashed, which is actually a good way to release energy to protect motor, servos and ESC, minimizing repair cost. Then how about direct drive helis? Break motor?

[@alishanmao]

shafts still bend, things still break, and now yes you may break motors too

[@howintesting940]

@@alishanmao Thanks Ali ! So seems like the repair cost can be even much higher. Throughout years playing Heli I never broke any motor yet.

[@alishanmao]

well so far on my M2 i have had many crashes but i never had issues with motor. never broke even tail motor. all good. guess its the way you crash. maybe a very hard crash will actually total the motor

[@Thailand-Servant-111]

Thanks from Thailand

[@alishanmao]

Our pleasure!

[@신파당]

Where to buy Eachine E180 product?

[@alishanmao]

Still waiting for eachine to release it lol

[@NightFlyyer]

Totally a wonderful comparison. I have the 180. Thanks and happy flying!

[@alishanmao]

Thanks, you too!

[@NightFlyyer]

@@alishanmao BTW, I put a link to your (this) video in my latest video on the 180. I hope that is okay. Happy flying! ~ Dave

[@alishanmao]

@@NightFlyyer thank you so much dave :) I am actually subbed to your channel for a long time too :)

[@NightFlyyer]

@@alishanmao Thanks. I am surprised at comments on my video about Eachine copying M2. Some are dead sure they did, but I think DD helis have been around a long while. I guess Chevy copied Ford here, and so on and so on. LOL. Thanks again.

[@alishanmao]

@@NightFlyyer well who does not copy nowadays. everyone makes a copy. one releases a new product with a new concept, soon others catch up with some changes only LOL. in the end if product has good quality and lower prices, and parts available well, its good that we end users have choices to make.

[@milan5643]

Hi, great review. Please, give me an advice. Is it possible to control OMP M2 EXP with transmitter from E180 (with the help of OMPHOBBY M2 EXP/V1/V2 RC Helicopter Parts Mini SFHSS RX/SFHSS Receiver Board)? Thank you for your reply.

[@alishanmao]

you can. if the receiver can be bind and works.

[@KietNguyen-nn2xj]

@@alishanmao can you connect the QX7 transmitter to the M2?

[@tomwilliam5118]

When it goes inverted are the controls backwards

[@alishanmao]

of course, this is not GPS heli. its a hobby grade hardcore 3D heli. total manual. you need to have real skills to do 3D

[@umit2253]

I couldn't find the buy link for the E180. Where do we buy

[@alishanmao]

They still did not release it. wait for it

[@GBird-nj7xf]

Do either or both helis come with metal geared servos?

[@alishanmao]

They both claim to have metal gear servos

[@philiptaylor3262]

Thank you for the great in depth comparison. I'm going to go for the M2. I gave up on tail driven motors after the old blade mcpx but these seem to hold really well.

[@alishanmao]

Good choice!

[@srinivasrao8963]

U did good job sir

[@alishanmao]

Thanks

[@unstoppable6047]

When deciding between the 2 helicopters for which one to purchase. I chose the E180 for its better looks and because the controller looked much better than the OMP. I think they lost alot of sales because of this. Still happy with my purchase. E180 is a beast. Tail hold is incredible

[@alishanmao]

thanks for sharing

[@dennychannel1723]

Super nice helikomter nya🙏🙏👍👍

[@bobwatson6558]

I see eachine has the 180 in stock but what about parts it looks like the support for the m2 for the USA is fare but it's more expensive by almost 100.00 dollars. Support for setting it up is better at this point for the m2. So based on that Ali which one do you buy.

[@alishanmao]

I would choose the product that has better support, and parts available in my area or near my area.

[@ruisilveira8918]

Hi from Portugal! Great video, its always fun to see your videos,gratz! Can you link the sbus receiver your using on the M2? Or a similar one

[@alishanmao]

tiny.cc/uesbsz There you go. this is the one i am using

[@Horsesupreme1]

Hello Ali! Do you know the release date of the Eachine 180? I can't wait😋😇

[@alishanmao]

no idea when. still waiting on it

[@SupremeRC]

You are using the old version M2 this is not the v2 version?

[@alishanmao]

did i say it was V2 in video? i said its 2019 version. maybe you missed that part in the video

[@Gh0st5519__]

Good job from Texas

[@alishanmao]

Rock on!

[@xan4357]

Do you know where I can get the e180? I’ve been looking all over banggood, and I couldn’t find it.

[@alishanmao]

they still did not release it. lets be patient about it. they are improving the material quality

[@xan4357]

@@alishanmao oh ok, I was assuming that it was already out for sale and out of stock, but I guess I was wrong. Thank you for responding to my question though!

[@SKYLINEFILMSBRASIL]

Nice comparison! I've been watching your videos since 2007, golden times of the ESKY Belt CP, Honey Bee King... I can realize the rc helicopter technology has not evolved like the drone technology, but I still like it quite a bit. Take care!

[@alishanmao]

yes sadly heli tech has not seen improvements. maybe its because its a proven flight system that really does not need any change to it. but good to see that now we have these direct drive systems coming out. hope later they can make blade less helis hahah

[@FlyturboKwad]

How hard is it to add GPS hold?

[@alishanmao]

need a very small one LOL.

[@michaelbluecastlestudio665]

Thanks for the comparison … nice video🙏🏻

[@alishanmao]

My pleasure!

[@danialtun5431]

Bro. xkk 130.and E. 180 are Which helicopter is good.

[@alishanmao]

E180 of course. K130 is rubbish

[@danialtun5431]

@@alishanmao TQ bro.

[@freddiesinggon3436]

@@alishanmao for me xk k130 is a great heli. Its not rubbish my fren. Have a lot of sparepart available.

[@freddiesinggon3436]

@@danialtun5431 if u need an upgrade,than buy E180. if u r new to 3d helis,play with simulator first to learn

[@danialtun5431]

@@freddiesinggon3436 i play xk k 123 is 3.4 year 3d.6ch can't flying yet speed control is some time damage shopper no showing 3d flying I'm feeling now.

[@scottgivens27]

When will Eachine 180 be available?

[@alishanmao]

Should be releasing this month

[@scottgivens27]

@@alishanmao thank you Alishanmao!

[@alishanmao]

welcome buddy. banggood told me that they are improving some material and parts so its delaying the release.

[@loybots4624]

E180 vs e150 which is better?

[@alishanmao]

depends what size you like, both are good helis

[@loybots4624]

@@alishanmao sir ni issues on e150 so far?

[@alishanmao]

@@loybots4624 none, it flies beautiful so far

[@loybots4624]

@@alishanmao glad to hear that. Because i heard others complaining about it

[@djlouis2150]

Yeah I think they are the something only thing is the canopy

[@eduardoresende.5656]

Muito bom amigo duas maquina boa!

[@gustavosoto8644]

Greetings:It would be AWESOME if you could make a video in how to setup the eachin180 to the tx16s.I have just bought the 180 and have the 160 I'll be using the 160 controller,but also bought that badass transmitter your pusihing.Keep up the OUTSTANDING flying and GREAT reaciews👍

[@alishanmao]

Just follow my video of setting up E160 with OpenTx. i just copied that model for E180 and it worked like a charm. had to tweak the Throttle curves and pitch curves only after that.

[@dn3043]

so whats the conclusion ? which one is better

[@alishanmao]

OMP for sure more quality better design. Eachine On the cheaper side

[@dn3043]

@@alishanmao is ALIGN better in terms of qulaity then OMP?

[@JuanSpeedAudio1]

Good job, greetings from City Mexico

[@alishanmao]

Thank you very much!

[@bobwatson6558]

Keep us up to date please I'm very interested l have there ev300O and they are good. When you get a chance do a follow up for us.

[@alishanmao]

Will do!

[@quintinlindsey7967]

Man if you could mix those two helis together you would get the perfect backyard flyer!!!

[@alishanmao]

They already are perfect backyard flyer

[@josiahpadgett3440]

I had a bee fly into my face once while I was flying a trex 550x. I wonder if they can sense the radio waves?

[@alishanmao]

lol, possibly. I would be running around rather than flying.

[@johnykillernyc5293]

Hi im pretty new to flying hell's an your videos have helped me a lot . thank you . I appreciate it very much

[@alishanmao]

Always Happy to help. kindly join my supporters group. your support keeps us going in these difficult times. www.buymeacoffee.com/alishanmao

[@kunad2294]

after watching your video, i went and purchased omphobby explorer and slso eachine e150 i have too say i'm loving the eachine e150 much better with stock radio, will of to get the omphobby t6 radio as well, i have the radio master tx16s also.

[@alishanmao]

glad you like these. you can setup both helis on RadioMaster TX16s easily

[@kunad2294]

thanks, will do so.

[@michaelbutler2915]

I will be buying the eachine e180 because I can get it for 284 with 3 batteries. Also I can use one radio to fly both my XK k130 and the E180. I have five batteries for the K 130 which will allow for a lot of flight time for both helicopters.

[@alishanmao]

good idea

[@JupiterBPO]

Hey how would you compare the xk k130 to the e180? I'm thinking of buying and I don't know which one to get. The xk has more parts available for my region, but the e180 seems a bit more advanced and a better choice since I'm not going to be upgrading soon after that. Also can I use the xk remote on the e180?

[@alishanmao]

@@JupiterBPO why do you want to upgrade while you can buy a better model now. get E180 and forget the older K130. they are discontinued.

[@JupiterBPO]

@@alishanmao I will listen to your advice. Thank you. Will I be able to use the XK X6 transmitter with the e180?

[@alishanmao]

@@JupiterBPO I believe you can but i will suggest you get something better

[@pauliether.c.guy.3349]

Love your videos Ali. You inspired Me to buy the Ommphy M2 hope I spelt that right. The Eachine doesn’t look bad either. I just bought the blade 130s which isn’t that bad. That bug would of gotten squashed arghhhhhhhhh.

[@alishanmao]

Hope you enjoy it! Thank you for your support

[@jbpark8719]

Interesting!

[@alishanmao]

Very!

[@jbpark8719]

@@alishanmao Can you tell me? How much does it cost and when it release? I'm about to buying M2.

[@MrReytones]

Muito legal

[@nikolaosstavrou5327]

hey Ali that bug was a big fan! it just wanted to fpv a llitle!.... xixixixi.

[@alishanmao]

Yeah FPV inside my nose LOL

[@coldfirebeat4903]

😍😍❤️❤️

[@scottwalker6257]

Coldfire bladez 🤙🏽

[@coldfirebeat4903]

@@scottwalker6257 yes sir hahaha i watch a lot of m2 video and comparison 😅

[@SupremeRC]

Neet I'm doing a few vids on these omp. Great helis both.

[@alishanmao]

Nice 👍

[@ambrosekillpack4841]

it's not an angry bee, it's an angry bird.

[@alishanmao]

birds :D

[@lfrecords3970]

Dude the little parts on the rotor head on m2 your saying it's cause it's DFC system and not flybarless like the other midel...dfc in the past was blowing up in hard 3D...i had a 450 align back then and the rotor head just break many times in hard manuvers...im pro pilot on helis and now on racing freestyle drones too...Man I just replaced 4switches on tx16s and I got single switches not the ready two on board cause I would have to wait a month at least.....i managed to find the way to set the switches SC SD on the board which supposed to be for SA SB and MAN IT WAS HELL to figure it out cause if you were just switchin a switch from one position to another it was becoming different name switch...like if you click down SC it was becoming SD....if anyone ever need help with something like that msg me.....good work man I like your channel not only for the products but the way you showing everything is fun and makes your day.

[@alishanmao]

Thank you :) appreciate the support to my work buddy

[@pakorntanis]

thank bro I think I prefer M2 than E180

[@alishanmao]

choice is all yours

[@wraith657]

It's a good thing I'm an actual paying user of KZbin.... Because your video has an obscene amount of commercials/ads. It's a wonder you have any subscribers.

[@alishanmao]

To be honest, I have disabled mid roll ads and non skippable long time ago, but youtube just keeps showing those ads. I myself watch and follow many youtubers and I am also annoyed by the number of ads you have to watch on every KZbin videos now. So I installed adblocker Extension in my chrome, now nothing bothers me. You should do the same. I am sure my subscribers know this as well that its not my fault.

[@nickcoombes6218]

Ur hilarious, which one would you choose!?!

[@alishanmao]

Depending upon my budget :D both are equally good.

[@RickyD1968]

Very hard to see helicopter :-(

[@alishanmao]

yes they are small hard to see

[@123windyron]

Ha ha ha nice flying nice vid looks like you got bugged.

[@alishanmao]

always had a bug for helis bro

[@123windyron]

@@alishanmao you rock...

[@ianreed4636]

Can't see it when you fly way out there.

[@10fantic]

Should have compared M2 V2 to the E180, not the original.

[@alishanmao]

Hope my fans can raise a fund for me to buy M2 V2 :)

[@aarizmushtaq4301]

I wonder why the M2 is so expensive?

[@alishanmao]

quality parts and brand name

[@jasonmorgan661]

I have 5 Blade helicopters . All bought in June of 2020. All of them no good including the batteries in 6 months.😑

[@coldfirebeat4903]

Donate me atleast one of it sir even the damage one. I'll appreciate eh. Cant afford to buy brand new 😢

[@vladicopter]

Omg I was gonna buy e180..then realized it's not DFC....🥴

[@alishanmao]

yup

[@adredy]

why every controller looks like toy for kids ?

[@alishanmao]

Cheap stuff, no creativity no desire for designs thats why

[@hardcornelson]

Don't say ugly 3D, it's 3D man. Most of the People can't do anything like that.... ;)

[@alishanmao]

Glad you like it. Thank you