Eachine E58: Easy drone battery mod

[@craigwooman3369]

Batteries for the Syma X5C (852540) fit perfectly into the battery bay of the E58. Slides in/out, but a firm fit without needing a door or retainer. I soldered the same JST-PH female connector from the circuit board and ran it over top of the main board to the back of the battery hatch, exiting by the rear LED. Plug it in, slide in the battery. If I use an E58 battery, the JST-PH connector tucks up behind the rear LED. Thanks for the idea!

[@FuriousHondaBoy]

Just got same idea. You can buy cheap battery from hobbyking 750mAh size 44x25x9,5mm , people say its for syma but according measurement will fit little harder to battery try, just need to soldering jst connector on board and whola...

[@GametimeSlime]

So how long is it’s flight time now

[@bheboytv]

Wow that's what i'm talking about bro i neen that nice video keep it up thumbs 👍

[@MarcRCAddict]

Cool video mate thanks for sharing.. doing simple mods like this is very easy but very effective, might try this on mine but with some larger batteries 👍

[@aerialcombat]

This has helped tremendously, thank you!

[@HoTtSaWcE24]

very insightful, helpful.. useful to say the least, thks!

[@rubykaufman5361]

I just bought this quad and this will be good to know. Thank You

[@GTARC_au]

Gotchya mate. Great hack! Nicely done!! I'll give it a crack!

[@skinnymitchairgunbrotherho7152]

What's the best way to maintain these batteries. I have the e88 which is very similar and looks like it has the same single cell battery. First question are these circuit boards programmed to shut the drone off before it depletes the battery to zero. Regardless, when I'm done flying after the battery i cools down . Do I need to charge them. Last but not least when I know I'm not going to be using my drone for a while do I just charge it up to 40% and check it every now and then. Well I don't have a way to tell if it's charged 40% but I figured I would charge it for 30 minutes just to give it enough charge so that it doesn't degrade. I guess bottom line I'm trying to ask what's the best way to maintain your batteries.

[@Blizofoz45]

Best thing to do is make sure you fly it right after you charge a battery up. If you leave a battery fully charged for a few days to a week it'll puff up eventually.

[@BrianClunie]

Just subscribed; great information!!

[@aaa_aaaaaaaaaa]

aight man this , camera mode (5mp instead of 2mp) and range mod (from the remote) and boom low end hobby - grade drone and if you up the motors then fpv too

[@nineh9739]

Are there advantages to this aside from repairing batteries? did you increase payload, flight time, battery capacity, or cut charge time?

[@Blizofoz45]

It lets you use bigger batteries if you want more flight time.

[@md95tsi]

Good stuff Brother just picked this one up Thank You

[@Blizofoz45]

md95tsi Glad to help I think you’re going to be really happy with it. If Eachine makes a brushless version I’ll be first in line. :)

[@ppulambe8311]

@@Blizofoz45 ... you bet! I really like these type. I'd love a brushless model.

[@pdtech4524]

Nice mod. I'm going to buy the e58 hopefully soon. Just wondered if there was any chance of putting a slightly higher capacity battery like a 750mah to get a bit extra flight time without the extra weight penalty?

[@Blizofoz45]

PD Tech My first quad had 7mm motors too and I could get around 8-10 minutes out of a 650 mah battery. You might be able to offset the weight gain by getting rid of the battery cartridge altogether and soldering a connection directly to the pos/neg leads on the circuit board.

[@aerialcombat]

@@Blizofoz45 how would you bypass the switch? I see three wires coming from the switch to the board, if I soldered directly would I ignore the third wire?

[@Blizofoz45]

@@aerialcombat You can see on the switch board there's three solder points where the battery connects to it. Above it there's three wires labeled R , B- and B+. My guess is B- and B+ represent the positive and negative currents coming from the battery connector. So yeah I have no idea what the red "R' wire is for.

[@Samty01]

Cool and impressive, but can I fix a power bank to the drone as a power supply?

[@Blizofoz45]

Sure. It won't take off with that much weight but you're free to try that. :)

[@808galvatron]

Hahahaha I did the same thing but I made mines longer flite time instead of 500mah I mad it 1000mah by putting 2 500 mah lipo into parallel for double capacity. Just have to mod the battery compartment and using small straps I can't go over cause of the weight was to heavey so you can only put one extra 500mah battery lol. Instead of 8 minutes it's 16 minutes flite time. Plus I have an fpv mounted on it so that takes power also but it stayed up preety long. And the antenna was also moded to a longer antenna on the reciver. Instead of 100 meters I can go twice that far awsome drone for only $45 box I just moded into a some what hobby grade racer drone.lol 5 times the fun well worth the work.

[@Blizofoz45]

What mw do you run your fpv camera at? I have a switchable camera that goes up to 200mw but I've heard setting it that high can draw too much power from the drone.

[@ZKK85]

A brushless quad is available around 90 dollars to 120 dollars having 15 minutes plus flight time. No use buying a 45$ dollar mod to a brush motor drone.

[@Blizofoz45]

Jason Prosser Most people just use a wifi antenna and solder a short length of coax cable from the stock transmitter to a sma connector. Its odd that toy drones rarely do it that way because its very inexpensive: www.data-alliance.net/antenna-2-4ghz-5dbi-omni-directional-w-sma-male-rubber-duck/

[@pauledwards3833]

right just watched the video till the end but where has he done the battery mod or have I missed somthing here comments are like great job for the mod etc but on this vid where does it show how to di it ?

[@fatih1422]

I plug the battery into the charger where you soldered, but the drone takes off very little.

[@mralaskadude1]

awesome thank you

[@allanpollard8535]

Nice clean work space

[@nigelwiffen1453]

Sorry late in chat lol Question, I have E58 love her ,i buy 2x replacement battery x2 they charge but not power bird. Can i utilize them in any way? Like making a new connector for a one batt fit all ?

[@Blizofoz45]

You can always open them up and see if the battery is puffed. But yeah part of my reason for changing the connector was to use better batteries.

[@indraeedee]

how about e520s batt mod ?

[@LULEKOSO]

Criativo!!! Thank you.

[@hubadonga]

Nicely done. Idea, you could just stick some Velcro below the quad and stick any kind of battery underneath it. What do you say?

[@Blizofoz45]

Yeah I thought about that. I had two reasons for doing it the way I did: I wanted to maintain the form factor of the E58 as much as possible and I wasn't sure how it would handle the extra weight of larger batteries and velcro. It's a very finely tuned quad and I already had 500mAh batteries lying around so I decided to take this route. I'll leave it to someone else to try it your way. :)

[@hubadonga]

Cool :)

[@hubadonga]

Nice 👍

[@XqeDiosxqe]

very well explained video ... can i use any samsung galaxy phone battery???

[@Blizofoz45]

That's an interesting idea I've never thought about trying that. As long as it produces somewhere between 3.7-4.2v I guess it could work but I think phone batteries are lithium ion instead of lithium polymer. Ion batteries have been made to work in very conservative flying camera drones but usually they can't push through enough amps fast enough for a quad.

[@michaelramos7596]

I got the 1200Mah battery waiting to get shipped .. How long will be the flight time?

[@Blizofoz45]

If you use something light to secure it like a small rubber band, I would think at least 10 minutes. Wind speed and your flying style(fast vs. relaxed cruising) are big factors in flight time. Let me know how it goes!

[@michaelramos7596]

@@Blizofoz45 actually the weird part it really looks identical on the battery that came with the drone but it was labeled 1200 mah.. no modification required on battery compartment.. still waiting for the shipment propbably this week mate

[@ggomz]

Is it possible to extend the battery to 3,000+ mAh?

[@Blizofoz45]

It would be too much weight. These days they're making 850mah batteries just like the one I used and I think that would be a good cutoff point for adding capacity.

[@luzarias7670]

genial idea migo gracias

[@grantfu5506]

New to this. How would you know which batteries are compatible with the original rating? I assume voltage has to be the same no matter what. can you get a battery with a higher mah for longer life? What else can differ?

[@Blizofoz45]

Just about all 1S batteries have a base voltage output of 3.7 volts. At full charge they'll be at 4.2 volts. That's what the E58 uses. There are some newer 1S batteries that go to 4.35 max volts that I wouldn't use but online vendors will always have the voltage listed in the product description. Here's a link to some cheaper batteries on Amazon have a higher mah capacity(longer flight times) that look like they would fit into the E58 battery slot: www.amazon.com/Battery-PowerWhoop-Connector-Inductrix-Quadcopter/dp/B077PRY7K3/ref=sr_1_14?s=toys-and-games&ie=UTF8&qid=1545445090&sr=1-14&keywords=1s+battery

[@grantfu5506]

@@Blizofoz45 Thanks for the info. Quick question, when you mention base voltage output being 3.7, when looking at a battery in my hand saying "3.7 volts" would you say thats the base output or the full charge max? Should I be careful seeing how high it will go? etc.

[@Blizofoz45]

@@grantfu5506 Full charge should be 4.2v which translates to 100% battery life. 3.7v to me is more like the minimum voltage which basically translates to "stop flying now". Beginner quads like the E58 monitor the battery's voltage in realtime and will signal you to land at round 3.7v or it will simply land itself to keep from overusing the battery and causing permanent damage to it. In reality these batteries can be drained down to 3.3v but it's a bit risky to do that and I don't think the E58 will let you anyway. :)

[@Itsahardknocklife9690]

I’m confused. I’ve ordered this drone. Is this a hack so I can put any batteries into it?

[@Blizofoz45]

That's right!

[@radekholy7476]

I upgraded the battery, put 1500mAh into my E58. The device responds, binds with the controller, even Wi-Fi module is completelly working. The problem is when I try to start motors - they spin one time then the drone turns off immediately. I tried changing motors to 8,5mm, the probmels however persists. What might be the cause of this problem? I am sure its something with battery and flight controller. Can it be the battery not making enough Amps?

[@Blizofoz45]

Radek Holý The first thing I thought was maybe your battery’s voltage was higher than 3.7v...they probably make 1s batteries that big but they definitely aren’t common. Apart from that you might double check to make sure the battery is fully charged...the wifi, leds, etc don’t need very much juice at all to work.

[@GF-mf7ml]

What is the max mah can fit inside?

[@Blizofoz45]

There are 650mah high volt batteries that are the same shape and profile but I've never bought them to see if they fit. If you search on Amazon for Crazypony 650mah batteries they might have the actual dimensions listed.

[@MaxartDesarrolloPersonal]

Nice video bro, I have a question maybe u can halpme I try to upgrade a Battery in a little dron spider gw58 global its stock bateríe 500 mah 3.7 was dificulta to find, so I bought a 3.7 550 mah genéric, the first flight was nice 4 mins more than usual I plgged a conector to positive and negative point in fc, but after 2 flight bateríes seems fat and bigger as damage the dron dont flight again with those bats, only star lights try to run motors but nothing more but with its stock bateríes every its normal....i reconect the cables to main board but the same... Maybe those bateríes are voltaje low or what could be happen...really apreciate your advice to mod the original bats to a genéric, maybe the valtaje and mah are similar but bateríes es samller cound affect...?

[@Blizofoz45]

When a battery gets puffed up it's usually dead and needs to be disposed of. I would try the CrazyPoney 3.7v 650 mah batteries. Amazon and Ebay have them for a reasonable price.

[@MaxartDesarrolloPersonal]

@@Blizofoz45 excelente I didnt considere the numer of "Cs" discharhe rates of the bateríes maybe the genéric are low quality and less rate of Cs...

[@dougfoster876]

what type phone do you need for this drone

[@Blizofoz45]

It works with both androids and iphones.

[@asianadventure916californi2]

Hey bro how can I modify my drone to get longer flying time instead of 20mins? I have a holy stone drone?

[@Blizofoz45]

Longer than 20 minutes on one battery? There's some drones that can do it but you'd have to move up to brushless motors and spend alot more money to get there.

[@asianadventure916californi2]

@@Blizofoz45 hey bro I just order 20 drones E58 from China just wanted to ask you if I do a upgrades 9n the e58 battery whats the max I can use it like you know how e58 battery 3.7 500mah What's the bigger battery can I put? N can I use a 3.7v 1200mah to get more fly time?

[@Blizofoz45]

@@asianadventure916californi2 I think 1200 mah is probably the best you can get from a single battery. They're a bit tricky to find but buying a bigger battery will weigh the drone down too much.

[@MidwestRidazmotorizedbikes]

Great video

[@Estebanmorenozapata]

I think the original battery is 25c and you put a 30c, does not this cause the engines to burn?

[@Blizofoz45]

Not that I've seen. Some lipo batteries go up to 45C and I've never heard of that directly causing motors to burn out.

[@phnxfleurs8738]

Can you make an e511s mod battery too?

[@Blizofoz45]

I'm sure you could. From the picture it looks like a generic 2S battery in a plastic case.

[@edgarnavarro7803]

500th subscriber!!!🎉🎉

[@Blizofoz45]

Guero Nation Here’s to 500 more! :)

[@raeleenmandy6359]

What battery did u get

[@Blizofoz45]

I'm using Venom RC 500mah batteries. If you shop around you'll find alot of other batteries with that shape and size on Banggood.

[@ellycalfauzi2085]

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[@Torta--is--PLUR]

So for a dummy like me what's the flight time now?

[@Blizofoz45]

It's about the same at 5-7 minutes but you can use higher capacity batteries like 600mah that will add a minute or two to flight times.

[@lilianlam4839]

Hi everyone, if you are interested in this drone, you can contact me.

[@aerialcombat]

Lilian Lam hi, I'm interested

[@tolongesgaming7300]

Hi im asking how you do the charger can u show me please

[@Blizofoz45]

The stock charger or the B6 I was using for charging multiple batteries?

[@kylefredrich1756]

I cant takeout the battery of my drone

[@luzarias7670]

le puse conroladora evo f3 y fue genial

[@MermaidAleshaAmor]

I can't get my battery out! What am I doing wrong?

[@kevinsleppek6058]

You put it in upside down

[@MermaidAleshaAmor]

@@kevinsleppek6058 it came that way. But yes, it was upside down. A pair of needle nose pliers and I fixed it. Lol. Ty

[@MagaaloNet]

Does look like a mobile batteries

[@kap925]

😰...help please 🙏 Hi. I received an "E88 Pro" drone on Wednesday, and my separately ordered (different vendor) "E88" extra battery on Thursday. After finally getting the drone to start up, I messed around in my flat for a bit until the battery ran out. I then installed the extra battery (as I charged the original), which appeared to be the same as the original (3.7V 1800mAh). It looked the same, but was a very slightly tighter fit in the compartment. As it was fully inserted, the drone automatically turned on (and at an extremely high speed!), but without the lights. I hit the on/off button on the top of the drone, but to no avail. It didn't turn off until I pulled the battery out. I also detected a slight burning smell, which I thoug might have been the electronic circuitry or engine starting to fry. I tried it again and had the same result. When my original battery was charged, I inserted it into the slot, but the drone wouldn't turn on at all, not even the lights! Is there an issue because the "E88 Pro" and "E88" battery are different (the stats appear to be the exact same)? Do you think the extra battery was defective? Do you think the circuitry is now screwed? Separately, the drone was advertised as having a 2nd (bottom facing) camera, but the spot on the underside does not appear to have one in the opening. I'd be interested in hearing any comments/advice you may have regarding the drone/battery issue. Thanks in advance. Cheers!

[@Blizofoz45]

First off the bad news. It sounds like the extra battery was higher voltage than the drone's control board could take so it might be fried. Drones like this and re-branded E58's like the "Drone-X Pro" have been running scams for the past year or so. They claim 4K video and other features that are either highly questionable or completely false. The Chinese factories mix and match so many parts I could see where you may have purchased the wrong battery. The positive/negative battery leads could have been swapped to the opposite of the stock battery as well. Drones like this tend to pop on sites like Ebay and Aliexpress. So here's your options: Buy another E88 and don't try to use that spare battery with it. Just use the ones that came in the box. Buy a Eachine E58. That's surest fix and Bannggood has it marked down to $32. They also carry every spare part imaginable for it. Buy another toy drone and try to swap out the flight controller/motors. I've done that before myself but getting the motor plugs to fit into another flight control board doesn't always work. You would probably also have to solder the stock battery connector to the new flight controller. I've even gone so far as to buy a hobby grade flight controller and transplant it into a toy drone so I could fly it in acro mode, use a hobby grade transmitter for better range and fine tune the controls. It really comes down to your budget and whether you're interested in doing stuff like modding the drone via soldering and using some different parts. Modding drones can be alot of fun if you can work through the hurdles.

[@kap925]

@@Blizofoz45 ...first off, thanks so much for taking the time to send such a detailed response...much appreciated👍🏻👍🏻 FYI - I paid about $25 for the drone and $5 for the battery, thru Lazada (Thailand). The modular batteries both say 3.7V 1800MAh on the foil. I've read that often these batteries are really only 500 or 600MAh. Do these batteries even really come in 1800MAh?🤔 I suspect that as you suggested, there was a defect/problem with the extra battery that I purchased (different vendor) and that it did some damage to my brand new drone😢 I've tried to return the items, but am not having much luck so far. I'm not technically or mechanically inclined, so I won't be swapping out bits and pieces and soldering anything🙃 I guess it'll have to be a write-off, other than having some spare parts should I once again order another one. Lastly, what's the main difference between the (Eachine) E58 and E88? Thanks in advance!

[@Blizofoz45]

@@kap925 Really the only difference between the two is the styling and the spare parts available for the E58. It uses a 500mah stock battery which gets you between 8-10 minutes flight time. And yeah I seriously doubt they would use a 1800mah battery on such a small drone. The dimensions and motors look almost exactly the same as the E58 and a few listings I looked at said 600mah on the E88.

[@Blizofoz45]

@@kap925 I doubt there's any difference between the two besides the body styling and the brand name. The E58 is the most popular drone of the past three years so you won't have any problem finding detailed reviews on it on KZbin and as I mentioned before, all kinds of affordable spare parts for it.

[@kap925]

@@Blizofoz45 ...once again, thanks for your input!

[@Oakcliffjay]

My plug won't fit for some reason

[@Blizofoz45]

Did you figure out the problem?

[@akash-xl5mb]

If we put a solar panel instead of battery

[@Blizofoz45]

Gopalan Babu In all seriousness you can actually run a glider off solar cells. A quadcopter needs bursts of amps that solar power would never be able to pump out fast enough.

[@Nikolay1114]

103450 Li-ion 2000 mh

[@Niroki]

Too much big...look this:752080 LiPo 3.7V, it fit inside, but is only a little longer... 1500mAh is 3 times the stock battery, only 1 cm more lenght

[@IronRoseReviews]

I got this battery and it does not work. Drone runs for a few seconds then dies. I believe the c rating is too low on it and auto shuts off to prevent a rupture.

[@dulanjanaedirimanna8777]

Friend my battry is not charging what can i do for it help me...

[@Blizofoz45]

Dulanjana Edirimanna Is it the stock battery?

[@dulanjanaedirimanna8777]

@@Blizofoz45 yes i buy drone with 3 battries but no one is working

[@dulanjanaedirimanna8777]

@@Blizofoz45 kzbin.info/www/bejne/jHy3kJaNmtJpacU see this..this is my problem also

[@Blizofoz45]

Dulanjana Edirimanna First make sure you’re pushing the battery in as far as it can go. That happened to me too the first time I tried to fly mine.

[@dulanjanaedirimanna8777]

@@Blizofoz45 i tried it but its not work friend

[@plentyponies5886]

great video,i might do this mod as i dont know how good my batteries are charging.

[@Blizofoz45]

1S batteries have gotten so much better since I made this video. This battery would whip this quad into shape: www.racedayquads.com/collections/1s-batteries/products/rdq-series-3-8v-1s-650mah-60c-lihv-battery-ph2-0